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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 13:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I hope they take the week off. Christie&#039;s dealing with a personal issue, and I have an early flight Saturday morning. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I hope they take the week off. Christie&#8217;s dealing with a personal issue, and I have an early flight Saturday morning. :(</p>
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		<title>By: Joy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s sad to say but I woke up this morning thinking, it&#039;s Friday...I wonder what recall will be announced this afternoon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sad to say but I woke up this morning thinking, it&#8217;s Friday&#8230;I wonder what recall will be announced this afternoon.</p>
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		<title>By: cb</title>
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		<dc:creator>cb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 01:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Late to the post, but thank you, Gina, for going to that seminar.  It&#039;s still a very important issue to me.  

Can we get an all encompassing consumer protection czar, not just a financial one? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late to the post, but thank you, Gina, for going to that seminar.  It&#8217;s still a very important issue to me.  </p>
<p>Can we get an all encompassing consumer protection czar, not just a financial one? ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandi K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 15:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joy, nothing would surprise me, I remember being a little surprised that there were no announcements of pet food recalls during the HVP recall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joy, nothing would surprise me, I remember being a little surprised that there were no announcements of pet food recalls during the HVP recall.</p>
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		<title>By: Joy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 23:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe some of us would like to submit comments to the FDA about the issue of salmonella in pet food...

FDA Announces Draft Compliance Policy Guide: Salmonella in Animal Feed
August 2, 2010

The Food and Drug Administration has published the Notice of Availability of Draft Compliance Policy Guide Section 690.800 Salmonella in Animal Feed in the Federal Register today. The draft CPG, when finalized, will help guide FDA staff’s regulatory policy relating to animal feed or feed ingredients that are contaminated with Salmonella and that come in direct contact with humans, such as pet food and pet treats.

Interested persons may submit written comments on or before November 1, 2010, to the Division of Dockets Management (HFA-305), FDA, 5630 Fishers Lane, Rm. 1061, Rockville, MD 20852.  Electronic comments may be submitted to http://www.regulations.gov. Identify all submissions to the docket with the following docket number: Docket No. FDA-2010-D-0378.

I&#039;m not sure if i know how to insert links here but I&#039;ll try: http://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/NewsEvents/CVMUpdates/ucm220829.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe some of us would like to submit comments to the FDA about the issue of salmonella in pet food&#8230;</p>
<p>FDA Announces Draft Compliance Policy Guide: Salmonella in Animal Feed<br />
August 2, 2010</p>
<p>The Food and Drug Administration has published the Notice of Availability of Draft Compliance Policy Guide Section 690.800 Salmonella in Animal Feed in the Federal Register today. The draft CPG, when finalized, will help guide FDA staff’s regulatory policy relating to animal feed or feed ingredients that are contaminated with Salmonella and that come in direct contact with humans, such as pet food and pet treats.</p>
<p>Interested persons may submit written comments on or before November 1, 2010, to the Division of Dockets Management (HFA-305), FDA, 5630 Fishers Lane, Rm. 1061, Rockville, MD 20852.  Electronic comments may be submitted to <a href="http://www.regulations.gov" rel="nofollow">http://www.regulations.gov</a>. Identify all submissions to the docket with the following docket number: Docket No. FDA-2010-D-0378.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if i know how to insert links here but I&#8217;ll try: <a href="http://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/NewsEvents/CVMUpdates/ucm220829.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeter.....220829.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 00:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gina, some time when you have more time, I would like to discuss the food safety/small farms/big farms issue with you in more detail.  However, let me at least say this from my perspective:  My dogs and cats get some commercial pet food supplemented with grass-fed lamb and goat&#039;s milk that I raise here on my small, sustainable farm, where I have raised sheep and goats on pasture since 1983.  I can see my flock out grazing in the pasture as I write this. They are moved to new grazing paddocks every couple days. They get green growing pasture most of the summer and a tiny bit of grain added as the nutritional content of the grass starts to wane in late summer.  I mostly sell locally and usually take my lambs and kids to a butcher that is only 4 miles from my farm. I am about as far from a CAFO as you are going to find. You are welcome to come and visit and scratch the backs of my friendly goats anytime and I think you would like what you see on my farm. But, while I&#039;m not saying others have to,I also cook any meat I give to my dogs and heat treat the milk --up to 145f, because this is the temp that will kill E.coli and salmonella.  Why? Because I have been in slaughter houses, including the custom one where I have known the butcher for years and know that he is exceedingly careful.  I have even done it myself when I have had to.  Now, don&#039;t get me wrong-- I LOVE that you are encouraging folks to buy from your local small farmers. (LoveLoveLoveit!!!) But that won&#039;t solve the problem of these highly adapted bacteria getting around and occasionally getting where they shouldn&#039;t--including, sometimes, our food supply. All the oversight and regulations in the world won&#039;t change that. The CAFOs and our current food systems intensify the problem, for sure.  The FDA needs to improve, for sure. But these buggers were here long before the first CAFO and will be around after the last one is bulldozed into the dust. Small farmers have to wear a lot of hats these days--animal nurse, engineer, hydrologist, marketer, tour guide, entrepreneur.....I just can&#039;t be a magician too.  Try as hard as we might, we can&#039;t make these bacteria, that have been around for centuries and live where our animals live, just &quot;poof&quot; disappear. As you said in your blog, the onus for safety still lies on the consumer.  

Loved the comment by schnauzer that feeding her dogs quality leftovers helped her make healthier food choices. See...dogs are good for us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gina, some time when you have more time, I would like to discuss the food safety/small farms/big farms issue with you in more detail.  However, let me at least say this from my perspective:  My dogs and cats get some commercial pet food supplemented with grass-fed lamb and goat&#8217;s milk that I raise here on my small, sustainable farm, where I have raised sheep and goats on pasture since 1983.  I can see my flock out grazing in the pasture as I write this. They are moved to new grazing paddocks every couple days. They get green growing pasture most of the summer and a tiny bit of grain added as the nutritional content of the grass starts to wane in late summer.  I mostly sell locally and usually take my lambs and kids to a butcher that is only 4 miles from my farm. I am about as far from a CAFO as you are going to find. You are welcome to come and visit and scratch the backs of my friendly goats anytime and I think you would like what you see on my farm. But, while I&#8217;m not saying others have to,I also cook any meat I give to my dogs and heat treat the milk &#8212;up to 145f, because this is the temp that will kill E.coli and salmonella.  Why? Because I have been in slaughter houses, including the custom one where I have known the butcher for years and know that he is exceedingly careful.  I have even done it myself when I have had to.  Now, don&#8217;t get me wrong&#8212; I LOVE that you are encouraging folks to buy from your local small farmers. (LoveLoveLoveit!!!) But that won&#8217;t solve the problem of these highly adapted bacteria getting around and occasionally getting where they shouldn&#8217;t&#8212;including, sometimes, our food supply. All the oversight and regulations in the world won&#8217;t change that. The CAFOs and our current food systems intensify the problem, for sure.  The FDA needs to improve, for sure. But these buggers were here long before the first CAFO and will be around after the last one is bulldozed into the dust. Small farmers have to wear a lot of hats these days&#8212;animal nurse, engineer, hydrologist, marketer, tour guide, entrepreneur&#8230;..I just can&#8217;t be a magician too.  Try as hard as we might, we can&#8217;t make these bacteria, that have been around for centuries and live where our animals live, just &#8220;poof&#8221; disappear. As you said in your blog, the onus for safety still lies on the consumer.  </p>
<p>Loved the comment by schnauzer that feeding her dogs quality leftovers helped her make healthier food choices. See&#8230;dogs are good for us!</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandi K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 15:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand Gina, I also wonder sometimes what employees of FDA think or feel when they read negative statements beng made about them or the agency they work for. In some cases it seems they get blamed by the pet food companies as well as pet owners for lots of things, they-can-do-nothing-right catch 22.  I have talked and written with the FDA rep for our state. It started with me writing to him none too happy after the 2007 pet food recalls and changed over time as I realized that he too, didnt like the situation but was close to powerless to change anything based on current laws and regs. Its like he said, he also has pets &amp; they are members of his family.  Dont get me wrong, I have seen behavior by a couple of FDA employees where they werent as, shall we say receptive, to inquiries as they should have been and their behavior was less than professional but I have seen that in commercial businesses as well as Fed or State agencies. I also wonder what they think when they read claims by pet food companies that certain things are FDA&#039;s fault when that might not be quite accurate.  I guess my point is, they are human too, with pets that they love like the rest of us, so I just wonder what they think and feel when they read or hear statements and claims that arent necessarily accurate but they cant really say anything to defend themselves. They are employees that have to deal with the regs/rules that are in place and may not agree with how things are but still have to uphold the way things are as part of their jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand Gina, I also wonder sometimes what employees of FDA think or feel when they read negative statements beng made about them or the agency they work for. In some cases it seems they get blamed by the pet food companies as well as pet owners for lots of things, they-can-do-nothing-right catch 22.  I have talked and written with the FDA rep for our state. It started with me writing to him none too happy after the 2007 pet food recalls and changed over time as I realized that he too, didnt like the situation but was close to powerless to change anything based on current laws and regs. Its like he said, he also has pets &amp; they are members of his family.  Dont get me wrong, I have seen behavior by a couple of FDA employees where they werent as, shall we say receptive, to inquiries as they should have been and their behavior was less than professional but I have seen that in commercial businesses as well as Fed or State agencies. I also wonder what they think when they read claims by pet food companies that certain things are FDA&#8217;s fault when that might not be quite accurate.  I guess my point is, they are human too, with pets that they love like the rest of us, so I just wonder what they think and feel when they read or hear statements and claims that arent necessarily accurate but they cant really say anything to defend themselves. They are employees that have to deal with the regs/rules that are in place and may not agree with how things are but still have to uphold the way things are as part of their jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 14:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandy ... a few things in play that would describe the poor attendance/lack of interest in an update on regulatory matters:

1) Priorities. This seminar was in competition with at least a dozen others in the same time slot. It was tagged in the &quot;large animal&quot; columns, so some may not even have noticed it there. 

Like any conference related to the work someone does, people tend to be looking for two things: 1) How they can do their job better (new techniques, better knowledge); and 2) How they can increase their income (mortgages, college to save for). Veterinarians are no different, and when you&#039;re looking at a schedule that promises new insight to problems you see in practice EVERY DAY (inappropriate elimination, better, earlier cancer diagnosis) vs. something that was a pressing issue three years ago and is not common now (pets dying from tainted pet food) ... well, you&#039;re going to opt for a lot of column 1, a little of column 2 and figure you&#039;ll read about the regulatory update in the journals. 

2) Ancient history. As a person who worked for a public agency, I was actually pretty impressed with how much the FDA has accomplished in three years within their legal constraints, with countless stakeholders and high-powered players and through a change at the top of the pyramid, a change from one president to another. 

But in a 24-hour news cycle, the response, however good, to something that happened three years ago just isn&#039;t interesting anymore. We all crave the &quot;new&quot; and this is the &quot;old.&quot; 

3) Sexiness. I spent a good chunk of my life covering public meetings. Meetings where decisions were made that affects people&#039;s neighborhoods, their safety and certainly their tax dollars. These were open public meetings, with good public notification well in advance. Members of the public were rarely in attendance. 

Regulatory matters are boring to most people, so most people figure everything is getting handled. Or that they&#039;ll worry about it when they need to, because there are more pressing things to think about now.

You know, if I weren&#039;t so wonky about regulatory issues and so personally knowledgeable about the 2007 pet-food recall, I myself would have chosen something from the companion-animal columns. But I was delighted to see the FDA there, and pretty darn happy with the progress on this issue so far. 

But frankly, we need Congressional action to: 1) Give the FDA mandatory recall authority; and 2) Expand and fund the CDA&#039;s public health role to include food-borne illness in animals. Until that happen -- and don&#039;t hold your breath --  it&#039;s clear the FDA is trying its best with the hand it was dealt. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandy &#8230; a few things in play that would describe the poor attendance/lack of interest in an update on regulatory matters:</p>
<p>1) Priorities. This seminar was in competition with at least a dozen others in the same time slot. It was tagged in the &#8220;large animal&#8221; columns, so some may not even have noticed it there. </p>
<p>Like any conference related to the work someone does, people tend to be looking for two things: 1) How they can do their job better (new techniques, better knowledge); and 2) How they can increase their income (mortgages, college to save for). Veterinarians are no different, and when you&#8217;re looking at a schedule that promises new insight to problems you see in practice EVERY DAY (inappropriate elimination, better, earlier cancer diagnosis) vs. something that was a pressing issue three years ago and is not common now (pets dying from tainted pet food) &#8230; well, you&#8217;re going to opt for a lot of column 1, a little of column 2 and figure you&#8217;ll read about the regulatory update in the journals. </p>
<p>2) Ancient history. As a person who worked for a public agency, I was actually pretty impressed with how much the FDA has accomplished in three years within their legal constraints, with countless stakeholders and high-powered players and through a change at the top of the pyramid, a change from one president to another. </p>
<p>But in a 24-hour news cycle, the response, however good, to something that happened three years ago just isn&#8217;t interesting anymore. We all crave the &#8220;new&#8221; and this is the &#8220;old.&#8221; </p>
<p>3) Sexiness. I spent a good chunk of my life covering public meetings. Meetings where decisions were made that affects people&#8217;s neighborhoods, their safety and certainly their tax dollars. These were open public meetings, with good public notification well in advance. Members of the public were rarely in attendance. </p>
<p>Regulatory matters are boring to most people, so most people figure everything is getting handled. Or that they&#8217;ll worry about it when they need to, because there are more pressing things to think about now.</p>
<p>You know, if I weren&#8217;t so wonky about regulatory issues and so personally knowledgeable about the 2007 pet-food recall, I myself would have chosen something from the companion-animal columns. But I was delighted to see the FDA there, and pretty darn happy with the progress on this issue so far. </p>
<p>But frankly, we need Congressional action to: 1) Give the FDA mandatory recall authority; and 2) Expand and fund the CDA&#8217;s public health role to include food-borne illness in animals. Until that happen &#8212; and don&#8217;t hold your breath &#8212;  it&#8217;s clear the FDA is trying its best with the hand it was dealt.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 14:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see anything directly related to this on the seminar list, but I do know the people in academia to ask, and will see what I can find out after I get home from the back to back road trips ... a week from Monday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see anything directly related to this on the seminar list, but I do know the people in academia to ask, and will see what I can find out after I get home from the back to back road trips &#8230; a week from Monday.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandi K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 06:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont suppose there are any seminars on FIP and any news in advancements made in diagnosing or treating this awful virus?</description>
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