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	<title>Comments on: DNA dog breed testing: Fun and useful, too</title>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/12/18/dna-dog-breed-testing-fun-and-useful-too/comment-page-2/#comment-480565</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 20:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definately Pomeranian based on the face and skull shape.  My other first instinct was Corgi, and then maybe to round it all out Shiba</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definately Pomeranian based on the face and skull shape.  My other first instinct was Corgi, and then maybe to round it all out Shiba</p>
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		<title>By: elaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 18:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone hereabouts seen the Pekingese/Lhasa Apso blend — the original Pekasso?

Comment by the dogfather — December 20, 2009 @ 10:22 am 

There must be a just punishment for stuff like this, but I don&#039;t know what it is.  Maybe just sic the Pun Police on you?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone hereabouts seen the Pekingese/Lhasa Apso blend — the original Pekasso?</p>
<p>Comment by the dogfather — December 20, 2009 @ 10:22 am </p>
<p>There must be a just punishment for stuff like this, but I don&#8217;t know what it is.  Maybe just sic the Pun Police on you?</p>
<p>elaine</p>
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		<title>By: the dogfather</title>
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		<dc:creator>the dogfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone hereabouts seen the Pekingese/Lhasa Apso blend -- the original Pekasso?

They look like this: http://www.johnsumner.com/images/picassosdog.jpg

No unreliable DNA test required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone hereabouts seen the Pekingese/Lhasa Apso blend &#8212; the original Pekasso?</p>
<p>They look like this: <a href="http://www.johnsumner.com/images/picassosdog.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.johnsumner.com/images/picassosdog.jpg</a></p>
<p>No unreliable DNA test required.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm - guessing breeds is always fun.  I think I have to join the Shiba Inu / Chihuahua camp.  She&#039;s a cutie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm - guessing breeds is always fun.  I think I have to join the Shiba Inu / Chihuahua camp.  She&#8217;s a cutie!</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 00:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan, again: See No. 51. Issues, not people. Thanks. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan, again: See No. 51. Issues, not people. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: SusanS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SusanS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 00:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What about the veterinarian who examined the collie mix and still prescribed ivermectin? Shouldn’t that vet be held more accountable than an internet article?&quot;

What if the vet trusted Dr. Becker&#039;s judgment, and assumed that he would never have endorsed the DNA test (and failed to mention the MDR1 test) if it weren&#039;t accurate? Yes, the vet should have done his own research and is responsible as well. But companies pay vets to endorse products because they expect the endorsements to influence other vets to use their products. Many vets are extremely busy and don&#039;t have time to research every new product--so they trust the endorsements. 

This is why physicians are not allowed to explicitly act as paid endorsers of medical products (they often get around this with the pretense that they are &quot;consultants&quot;). I see no reason why veterinarians should be held to a lower standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What about the veterinarian who examined the collie mix and still prescribed ivermectin? Shouldn’t that vet be held more accountable than an internet article?&#8221;</p>
<p>What if the vet trusted Dr. Becker&#8217;s judgment, and assumed that he would never have endorsed the DNA test (and failed to mention the MDR1 test) if it weren&#8217;t accurate? Yes, the vet should have done his own research and is responsible as well. But companies pay vets to endorse products because they expect the endorsements to influence other vets to use their products. Many vets are extremely busy and don&#8217;t have time to research every new product&#8212;so they trust the endorsements. </p>
<p>This is why physicians are not allowed to explicitly act as paid endorsers of medical products (they often get around this with the pretense that they are &#8220;consultants&#8221;). I see no reason why veterinarians should be held to a lower standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 00:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emily .. again: Discuss issues, not people. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily .. again: Discuss issues, not people. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SusanS, you say

&lt;i&gt;So she gives her dog ivermectin and her beloved dog—who was a Collie mix after all—dies.&lt;/i&gt;

What about the veterinarian who examined the collie mix and still prescribed ivermectin?  Shouldn&#039;t that vet be held more accountable than an internet article?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SusanS, you say</p>
<p><i>So she gives her dog ivermectin and her beloved dog—who was a Collie mix after all—dies.</i></p>
<p>What about the veterinarian who examined the collie mix and still prescribed ivermectin?  Shouldn&#8217;t that vet be held more accountable than an internet article?</p>
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		<title>By: EmilyS</title>
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		<dc:creator>EmilyS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As for the Mars Test, it is pure crap as has been demonstrated again and again. In fact, as I have noted, it so unreliable that there is a legal notice that comes with the product which says the test cannot tell the breed if the breed is actully known! ...

PBurns
http://www.terrierman.com

Comment by PBurns — December 18, 2009 @ 9:45 am&quot;

It is quite a joke for someone who has blogged that any dog anyone thinks is a pit bull IS a pit bull (and should be subject to restrictive laws) to have the nerve to comment on the crappiness of someone else&#039;s notions of breed.  Especially one  who also denies that a purebred breed called the American Pit Bull Terrier even exists and routinely denigrates the very notion of purebred dogs.. except his own of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As for the Mars Test, it is pure crap as has been demonstrated again and again. In fact, as I have noted, it so unreliable that there is a legal notice that comes with the product which says the test cannot tell the breed if the breed is actully known! &#8230;</p>
<p>PBurns<br />
<a href="http://www.terrierman.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.terrierman.com</a></p>
<p>Comment by PBurns — December 18, 2009 @ 9:45 am&#8221;</p>
<p>It is quite a joke for someone who has blogged that any dog anyone thinks is a pit bull IS a pit bull (and should be subject to restrictive laws) to have the nerve to comment on the crappiness of someone else&#8217;s notions of breed.  Especially one  who also denies that a purebred breed called the American Pit Bull Terrier even exists and routinely denigrates the very notion of purebred dogs.. except his own of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My problem is not with you (or anyone) disagreeing. Civil, intelligent discussion is always welcome here. Keep it civil, and we&#039;re good.

I agree with the conflict of interest problems in medicine, all kinds. That&#039;s why Dr. Becker was explicit in his statement that he has represented one of these products as a spokesperson. Such disclosure allows people to make up their own minds in weighing their opinion of any given product or service.

As for ethics ... well, Dr. Becker stood by the bloggers here during the pet-food recall, despite a lot of pressure to do otherwise -- and the potential for loss of income. As long as our reporting was well-documented, he was good with it. 

Again, we have asked the companies to come in, and I hope they do. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My problem is not with you (or anyone) disagreeing. Civil, intelligent discussion is always welcome here. Keep it civil, and we&#8217;re good.</p>
<p>I agree with the conflict of interest problems in medicine, all kinds. That&#8217;s why Dr. Becker was explicit in his statement that he has represented one of these products as a spokesperson. Such disclosure allows people to make up their own minds in weighing their opinion of any given product or service.</p>
<p>As for ethics &#8230; well, Dr. Becker stood by the bloggers here during the pet-food recall, despite a lot of pressure to do otherwise &#8212; and the potential for loss of income. As long as our reporting was well-documented, he was good with it. </p>
<p>Again, we have asked the companies to come in, and I hope they do.</p>
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