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	<title>Comments on: Banfield pulls the plug on docking, cropping</title>
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		<title>By: jas</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/07/30/banfield-pulls-the-plus-on-docking-cropping/comment-page-1/#comment-471551</link>
		<dc:creator>jas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Banfield has every right to take this position. I have the right to encourage people to not support them and Petsmart as well. It is all fine &amp; well to say you don&#039;t want your own dog docked or cropped, but you should NOT tell others what to do and impose your views
just because someone disagrees. No one is forcing anyone to crop &amp; dock-it should be MY choice. When all is said and done and the ARs have gotten thier way down the road and NO one has pets, none of this will matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Banfield has every right to take this position. I have the right to encourage people to not support them and Petsmart as well. It is all fine &amp; well to say you don&#8217;t want your own dog docked or cropped, but you should NOT tell others what to do and impose your views<br />
just because someone disagrees. No one is forcing anyone to crop &amp; dock-it should be MY choice. When all is said and done and the ARs have gotten thier way down the road and NO one has pets, none of this will matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/07/30/banfield-pulls-the-plus-on-docking-cropping/comment-page-1/#comment-471472</link>
		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weirdest name tool, and one I actually DO use on the dogs: The &lt;a hrep=http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=2604 rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bastard Rasp&lt;/a&gt;. (I use it as a tool to take off the rough edges on their nails.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weirdest name tool, and one I actually DO use on the dogs: The <a hrep=http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=2604 rel="nofollow">Bastard Rasp</a>. (I use it as a tool to take off the rough edges on their nails.)</p>
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		<title>By: The OTHER Pat</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/07/30/banfield-pulls-the-plus-on-docking-cropping/comment-page-1/#comment-471470</link>
		<dc:creator>The OTHER Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah - I&#039;d just do it the old-fashioned way with a surgical snips!

(Good thing I&#039;m not a vet, huh?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah - I&#8217;d just do it the old-fashioned way with a surgical snips!</p>
<p>(Good thing I&#8217;m not a vet, huh?)</p>
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		<title>By: Colorado Transplant</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/07/30/banfield-pulls-the-plus-on-docking-cropping/comment-page-1/#comment-471463</link>
		<dc:creator>Colorado Transplant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 04:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The OTHER Pat:

We wouldn&#039;t use the northerntool to debark a dog, though, would we.:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The OTHER Pat:</p>
<p>We wouldn&#8217;t use the northerntool to debark a dog, though, would we.:)</p>
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		<title>By: The OTHER Pat</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/07/30/banfield-pulls-the-plus-on-docking-cropping/comment-page-1/#comment-471461</link>
		<dc:creator>The OTHER Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay - THIS one had me doing a double-take!

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200326354_200326354</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay - THIS one had me doing a double-take!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200326354_200326354" rel="nofollow">http://www.northerntool.com/we....._200326354</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/07/30/banfield-pulls-the-plus-on-docking-cropping/comment-page-1/#comment-471345</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry... did you just tell me to spend some time at my local SPCA?  

For the record, dear commenter, I have been involved in rescue for over a decade, and running a private rescue group for several years out of my own home.  Don&#039;t tell me about animals who need rescue.

Secondly, your &quot;all the puppies and kittens&quot; argument is irrelevant (regardless of how incorrect it is to begin with).  Your initial comment was as follows:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Mandatory spaying and neutering. I have a problem with the word mandatory. Makes my neck hairs stand up. Still for the plain average Heinz 57 variety house pets, if mandatory spaying/neutering at no cost to the owner,would not be such a bad deal.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

You referred to my beloved companions as &quot;plain average Heinz 57 variety house pets&quot; and suggested that the government interfering in their medical decisions (raising the risk for prostate cancer, osteosarcoma, ligament tears and spay incontinence) was just fine and dandy as long as there was no $$ involved.  After all, they&#039;re just &quot;plain average house pets&quot; so who cares, right?

As for your &quot;just my opinion&quot; comment, when proceeded by the suggestion that you will MAKE your daughter see the light about circumcision, &#039;scuse me if I don&#039;t immediately accept your declaration of universal understanding.

In the future, you would do well to refrain from referring to ANY dog as &quot;plain average house pets&quot; regardless of parentage, or you most certainly risk offending the vast majority of readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry&#8230; did you just tell me to spend some time at my local SPCA?  </p>
<p>For the record, dear commenter, I have been involved in rescue for over a decade, and running a private rescue group for several years out of my own home.  Don&#8217;t tell me about animals who need rescue.</p>
<p>Secondly, your &#8220;all the puppies and kittens&#8221; argument is irrelevant (regardless of how incorrect it is to begin with).  Your initial comment was as follows:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Mandatory spaying and neutering. I have a problem with the word mandatory. Makes my neck hairs stand up. Still for the plain average Heinz 57 variety house pets, if mandatory spaying/neutering at no cost to the owner,would not be such a bad deal.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>You referred to my beloved companions as &#8220;plain average Heinz 57 variety house pets&#8221; and suggested that the government interfering in their medical decisions (raising the risk for prostate cancer, osteosarcoma, ligament tears and spay incontinence) was just fine and dandy as long as there was no $$ involved.  After all, they&#8217;re just &#8220;plain average house pets&#8221; so who cares, right?</p>
<p>As for your &#8220;just my opinion&#8221; comment, when proceeded by the suggestion that you will MAKE your daughter see the light about circumcision, &#8216;scuse me if I don&#8217;t immediately accept your declaration of universal understanding.</p>
<p>In the future, you would do well to refrain from referring to ANY dog as &#8220;plain average house pets&#8221; regardless of parentage, or you most certainly risk offending the vast majority of readers.</p>
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		<title>By: LauraS</title>
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		<dc:creator>LauraS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 01:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The only automatic benefit you get simply from crossing widely separated lines in the absence of health screening, is that the pups will have a more diverse set of immune system alleles than either of the parents, which does mean a stronger, more flexible immune system than the parents had.&lt;/i&gt;

There is also the advantage of a MUCH lower probability of homozygous deleterious recessives, which is thought to be a major cause of inbreeding depression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The only automatic benefit you get simply from crossing widely separated lines in the absence of health screening, is that the pups will have a more diverse set of immune system alleles than either of the parents, which does mean a stronger, more flexible immune system than the parents had.</i></p>
<p>There is also the advantage of a MUCH lower probability of homozygous deleterious recessives, which is thought to be a major cause of inbreeding depression.</p>
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		<title>By: Lis</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/07/30/banfield-pulls-the-plus-on-docking-cropping/comment-page-1/#comment-471305</link>
		<dc:creator>Lis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Actual mutts with various bloodlines in their background seem to pick up the best out of each breed without the specific inherited ailments and make wonderful dogs.&lt;/i&gt;

A fairy tale heavily promoted by puppy mills breeding &quot;designer&quot; mutts, but not supported by much of anything. The only automatic benefit you get simply from crossing widely separated lines in the absence of health screening, is that the pups will have a more diverse set of immune system alleles than either of the parents, which does mean a stronger, more flexible immune system than the parents had. But if they both had weak immune systems to begin with, you might still wind up with a dog whose immune system isn&#039;t anything to write home about, compared to a well-bred purebred.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Actual mutts with various bloodlines in their background seem to pick up the best out of each breed without the specific inherited ailments and make wonderful dogs.</i></p>
<p>A fairy tale heavily promoted by puppy mills breeding &#8220;designer&#8221; mutts, but not supported by much of anything. The only automatic benefit you get simply from crossing widely separated lines in the absence of health screening, is that the pups will have a more diverse set of immune system alleles than either of the parents, which does mean a stronger, more flexible immune system than the parents had. But if they both had weak immune systems to begin with, you might still wind up with a dog whose immune system isn&#8217;t anything to write home about, compared to a well-bred purebred.</p>
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		<title>By: JenniferJ</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/07/30/banfield-pulls-the-plus-on-docking-cropping/comment-page-1/#comment-471304</link>
		<dc:creator>JenniferJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Serijina, we are all concerned here with animal and also human welfare. But young, healthy animals, especially babies and neonates should not be killed by SPCA&#039;s or shelters.

And yep, I mean killed. Euthanasia is done to ease suffering, not because of space, or because a shelter does not have a good volunteer base in place to accomodate newborns, pregnant animals or orphans.  

I&#039;d recommend you pick up a copy of Redemption. The decision to kill baby animals or young healthy animals is just that, a decision. It ONLY stops when those in charge make a fundamental change in thinking and determine that such actions are unacceptable. Waiting until the pieces are all in place etc, and hoping it will someday not happen somehow DOES NOT WORK.  

Also mix breeds do not always get the best of both worlds in terms of health and personality. They may in fact get the worst behavioral traits of both parents with health problems from both sides.  Christie had a great blog entry on this subject about a month back. Hybrid vigor is a very real thing, but if a mix breed has poorly bred, unhealthy, unstable parents, it&#039;s no magic bullet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serijina, we are all concerned here with animal and also human welfare. But young, healthy animals, especially babies and neonates should not be killed by SPCA&#8217;s or shelters.</p>
<p>And yep, I mean killed. Euthanasia is done to ease suffering, not because of space, or because a shelter does not have a good volunteer base in place to accomodate newborns, pregnant animals or orphans.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d recommend you pick up a copy of Redemption. The decision to kill baby animals or young healthy animals is just that, a decision. It ONLY stops when those in charge make a fundamental change in thinking and determine that such actions are unacceptable. Waiting until the pieces are all in place etc, and hoping it will someday not happen somehow DOES NOT WORK.  </p>
<p>Also mix breeds do not always get the best of both worlds in terms of health and personality. They may in fact get the worst behavioral traits of both parents with health problems from both sides.  Christie had a great blog entry on this subject about a month back. Hybrid vigor is a very real thing, but if a mix breed has poorly bred, unhealthy, unstable parents, it&#8217;s no magic bullet.</p>
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		<title>By: serijna</title>
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		<dc:creator>serijna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 20:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim,
I think you kind  of misunderstood my heinz 57 variety comment. I value mutts just a much as a pedigreed &quot;with/without papers&quot; dogs. Actual mutts with various bloodlines in their background seem to pick up the best out of each breed without the specific inherited ailments and make wonderful dogs.
However, when it comes to adoption from shelters, those that closely resemble a breed, do get adopted faster. 
I cringe each time I see a sign on the road/ newspaper for free puppies or free kittens. They could end up in a laboratory, food for a komodo pet dragon, snake or worse.
Spend some time at your local SPCA shelter and witness how many healthy young animals/babies are euthanized.
I am against mandatory spaying/neutering. However, I also think that giant animal welfare orgs like the H$U$ should fork over some money to help  partial pay for neutering/spaying at local vet for low income pet owners.  
My opinions are solely my own. I do not expect anybody to change theirs.
I respect other bloggers opinions highly and would never trash them for  being different than my own.
Sometimes I even alter my opinions based on different opinions backed by facts.
Blogs IMO are great/refreshing to hear other opinions. It really broadens your horizons and forces you to re examine your values.
It forces me to change my own outdated ones from time to time. 
Finally, all bloggers here , have one thing in common. The welfare of animals. 
I always keep that in mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim,<br />
I think you kind  of misunderstood my heinz 57 variety comment. I value mutts just a much as a pedigreed &#8220;with/without papers&#8221; dogs. Actual mutts with various bloodlines in their background seem to pick up the best out of each breed without the specific inherited ailments and make wonderful dogs.<br />
However, when it comes to adoption from shelters, those that closely resemble a breed, do get adopted faster.<br />
I cringe each time I see a sign on the road/ newspaper for free puppies or free kittens. They could end up in a laboratory, food for a komodo pet dragon, snake or worse.<br />
Spend some time at your local SPCA shelter and witness how many healthy young animals/babies are euthanized.<br />
I am against mandatory spaying/neutering. However, I also think that giant animal welfare orgs like the H$U$ should fork over some money to help  partial pay for neutering/spaying at local vet for low income pet owners.<br />
My opinions are solely my own. I do not expect anybody to change theirs.<br />
I respect other bloggers opinions highly and would never trash them for  being different than my own.<br />
Sometimes I even alter my opinions based on different opinions backed by facts.<br />
Blogs IMO are great/refreshing to hear other opinions. It really broadens your horizons and forces you to re examine your values.<br />
It forces me to change my own outdated ones from time to time.<br />
Finally, all bloggers here , have one thing in common. The welfare of animals.<br />
I always keep that in mind.</p>
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