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	<title>Comments on: Hate, fear and the politics of puppy-mills</title>
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		<title>By: mary francis</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/07/18/hate-fear-and-the-politics-of-puppy-mills/comment-page-3/#comment-510828</link>
		<dc:creator>mary francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gina Spadafori - please get back to blogging - I&#039;ve sure missed reading what you have to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gina Spadafori - please get back to blogging - I&#8217;ve sure missed reading what you have to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/07/18/hate-fear-and-the-politics-of-puppy-mills/comment-page-3/#comment-510807</link>
		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 21:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And they&#039;re both MY old posts. A puzzlement, iz. 

I sure need to get back to blogging when people have to go back two years to hate on me for opinions I don&#039;t hold because their reading comprehension skilz are ultra-low, or their laziness quotient ultra-high. 

NOT ROB, however. He is Teh Smart and Teh Hard-Working. :) And not you, Houlie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And they&#8217;re both MY old posts. A puzzlement, iz. </p>
<p>I sure need to get back to blogging when people have to go back two years to hate on me for opinions I don&#8217;t hold because their reading comprehension skilz are ultra-low, or their laziness quotient ultra-high. </p>
<p>NOT ROB, however. He is Teh Smart and Teh Hard-Working. :) And not you, Houlie.</p>
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		<title>By: H. Houlahan</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/07/18/hate-fear-and-the-politics-of-puppy-mills/comment-page-3/#comment-510801</link>
		<dc:creator>H. Houlahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 18:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there an echo in here? 

A particularly stupid one?

Does seem to be old thread week on the PC blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there an echo in here? </p>
<p>A particularly stupid one?</p>
<p>Does seem to be old thread week on the PC blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 07:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really? You support an organisation such as the HSUS whose leader Wayne Pacelle, makes statements such as:
&quot;We have no ethical obligation to preserve the different breeds of livestock produced through selective breeding ...One generation and out. We have no problems with the extinction of domestic animals. They are creations of human selective breeding.”
— Wayne Pacelle,Animal People News, May 1993
Please explain....how dog loving goes hand in hand with wanting them to go extinct? I am one of those people who get, what did you say? a nerve throbbing in their heads? when I hear one person spouting diametrically opposing opinions. Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? You support an organisation such as the HSUS whose leader Wayne Pacelle, makes statements such as:<br />
&#8220;We have no ethical obligation to preserve the different breeds of livestock produced through selective breeding &#8230;One generation and out. We have no problems with the extinction of domestic animals. They are creations of human selective breeding.”<br />
— Wayne Pacelle,Animal People News, May 1993<br />
Please explain&#8230;.how dog loving goes hand in hand with wanting them to go extinct? I am one of those people who get, what did you say? a nerve throbbing in their heads? when I hear one person spouting diametrically opposing opinions. Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Christie Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christie Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly don&#039;t want to eliminate the good breeders. As I think is clear in my comments in this thread, I want to develop a positive, proactive, and VERY STRONG message that the best place to obtain a family pet is from a family home -- small, home-based breeders are the best source for companion dogs. Period.

It&#039;s true I am not a big proponent of social engineering through the legislative process, and I would like to see puppy mills/high volume breeders and all pet retailers driven out of business because people stop wanting to buy mass-produced dogs rather then by outlawing what they do, because these types of micro-managing laws both offend my belief in personal liberty and don&#039;t work. But I believe that Gina and I see eye to eye on that as we do on most issues related to dog breeding.

Newsflash: Protesting, demonstrating, and writing about what we believe in and think people should do, and why, is freedom in action, not taking someone&#039;s rights away. My right to express myself, Gina&#039;s to demonstrate, are far more bedrock principles of American values and, for that matter, LIBERTARIANISM ITSELF, than the right to breed dogs. So it completely bewilders me to see people urge us to be silent in the name of civil liberties and freedom. 

Do you people even hear yourselves?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly don&#8217;t want to eliminate the good breeders. As I think is clear in my comments in this thread, I want to develop a positive, proactive, and VERY STRONG message that the best place to obtain a family pet is from a family home &#8212; small, home-based breeders are the best source for companion dogs. Period.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true I am not a big proponent of social engineering through the legislative process, and I would like to see puppy mills/high volume breeders and all pet retailers driven out of business because people stop wanting to buy mass-produced dogs rather then by outlawing what they do, because these types of micro-managing laws both offend my belief in personal liberty and don&#8217;t work. But I believe that Gina and I see eye to eye on that as we do on most issues related to dog breeding.</p>
<p>Newsflash: Protesting, demonstrating, and writing about what we believe in and think people should do, and why, is freedom in action, not taking someone&#8217;s rights away. My right to express myself, Gina&#8217;s to demonstrate, are far more bedrock principles of American values and, for that matter, LIBERTARIANISM ITSELF, than the right to breed dogs. So it completely bewilders me to see people urge us to be silent in the name of civil liberties and freedom. </p>
<p>Do you people even hear yourselves?</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 03:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When did we get removed from the embrace of &quot;North America??&quot;  lol... thanks for jumping on that, Lis - I haven&#039;t been around much.

Petland Canada belongs to Petland US - I must admit to being a bit confused as to why this connection was not made.  Currently the assertion being made here in Canada is that the puppy mill connection is a US issue - which we of course know is untrue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When did we get removed from the embrace of &#8220;North America??&#8221;  lol&#8230; thanks for jumping on that, Lis - I haven&#8217;t been around much.</p>
<p>Petland Canada belongs to Petland US - I must admit to being a bit confused as to why this connection was not made.  Currently the assertion being made here in Canada is that the puppy mill connection is a US issue - which we of course know is untrue.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carol, go back to the echo chamber, and if you&#039;d like to know why, read up thread. You&#039;re failing to understand what I wrote, failing to understand what I do and do not support, and parroting more of those prefab talking points. 

I&#039;m sure Christie appreciates you not having a clue as to what she has written, either, but I&#039;ll leave those clarifications to her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carol, go back to the echo chamber, and if you&#8217;d like to know why, read up thread. You&#8217;re failing to understand what I wrote, failing to understand what I do and do not support, and parroting more of those prefab talking points. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Christie appreciates you not having a clue as to what she has written, either, but I&#8217;ll leave those clarifications to her.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/07/18/hate-fear-and-the-politics-of-puppy-mills/comment-page-3/#comment-470442</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gina recommends that we be sure who we support.  Then she supports H$U$, which is working to eliminate not only what they&#039;ve dubbed &quot;puppy mills&quot; (an Animal Rights-coined term used to describe ALL breeders), but to eliminate ALL purebred breeding as well.  Christie understands that, though there indeed ARE some substandard breeders, eliminating the good ones along with them is not going to do the animals any favours.
Gina, your AR slip is showing.  And thank yous to Christie for seeing the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gina recommends that we be sure who we support.  Then she supports H$U$, which is working to eliminate not only what they&#8217;ve dubbed &#8220;puppy mills&#8221; (an Animal Rights-coined term used to describe ALL breeders), but to eliminate ALL purebred breeding as well.  Christie understands that, though there indeed ARE some substandard breeders, eliminating the good ones along with them is not going to do the animals any favours.<br />
Gina, your AR slip is showing.  And thank yous to Christie for seeing the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: MisterPeabody</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/07/18/hate-fear-and-the-politics-of-puppy-mills/comment-page-3/#comment-470435</link>
		<dc:creator>MisterPeabody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great article. I think this is one of the most sensible articles I&#039;ve read on the topic of puppy mills.

I agree, typical legislation does not effectively address the issue of puppy mills. Laws often make it more difficult for responsible breeders and responsible pet owners while doing little to stop puppy mills and pet stores that import and sell them.

I&#039;ve recently started participating in dog shows, and I adamantly oppose puppy mills and the AKC registration of dogs from puppy mills. I&#039;d happily pay higher show fees if it helped to put even one puppy mill out of business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great article. I think this is one of the most sensible articles I&#8217;ve read on the topic of puppy mills.</p>
<p>I agree, typical legislation does not effectively address the issue of puppy mills. Laws often make it more difficult for responsible breeders and responsible pet owners while doing little to stop puppy mills and pet stores that import and sell them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve recently started participating in dog shows, and I adamantly oppose puppy mills and the AKC registration of dogs from puppy mills. I&#8217;d happily pay higher show fees if it helped to put even one puppy mill out of business.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah@HSUS</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/07/18/hate-fear-and-the-politics-of-puppy-mills/comment-page-3/#comment-470320</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah@HSUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lis,  it was specific to the United States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lis,  it was specific to the United States.</p>
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