Comments on: Acupuncture and the pain of long-backed dogs http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/07/09/acupuncture-and-the-pain-of-long-backed-dogs/ Blogging by a team of pet-care experts. Tue, 07 Feb 2012 07:26:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: ellen lemieux http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/07/09/acupuncture-and-the-pain-of-long-backed-dogs/comment-page-1/#comment-508106 ellen lemieux Fri, 13 May 2011 21:57:39 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=7850#comment-508106 Hope u found help for your little Doxie. I m in your shoesnow and have been looking to see what people did. I guess ill have to do the meds and cage rest and pray she gets better. I can not afford 5000 for surgery. Did u find any thing helpful Hope u found help for your little Doxie. I m in your shoesnow and have been looking to see what people did. I guess ill have to do the meds and cage rest and pray she gets better. I can not afford 5000 for surgery. Did u find any thing helpful

]]> By: jeri http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/07/09/acupuncture-and-the-pain-of-long-backed-dogs/comment-page-1/#comment-497788 jeri Thu, 02 Dec 2010 08:32:11 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=7850#comment-497788 I have a 6 yr old doxie, who has a pinched nerve from calcified disc. Unfortunately he has acute back leg lameness. He is just dragging. Obviously, I do not want to have to put him down. He means so much to us. He has been like a therapy dog for our disabled family members. I need help and suggestions on what can be done. I know surgery is an option but not affordable and no guarantees. Please help, I live in long beach, ca. Thanks, I'm a nervous wreck it happened two days ago, so I need to find something quick. I don't want him to suffer from pain or go into stress. I have a 6 yr old doxie, who has a pinched nerve from calcified disc. Unfortunately he has acute back leg lameness. He is just dragging. Obviously, I do not want to have to put him down. He means so much to us. He has been like a therapy dog for our disabled family members. I need help and suggestions on what can be done. I know surgery is an option but not affordable and no guarantees. Please help, I live in long beach, ca. Thanks, I’m a nervous wreck it happened two days ago, so I need to find something quick. I don’t want him to suffer from pain or go into stress.

]]> By: Anita http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/07/09/acupuncture-and-the-pain-of-long-backed-dogs/comment-page-1/#comment-485489 Anita Tue, 06 Apr 2010 18:11:48 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=7850#comment-485489 The ending paragraph where it mentions dogs being kept in a cage and inactive being archaic - is that only for the portion talking about the lack of pain killers? My vet and a lot of other people really emphasized the need for a strict 6-8 week crating period, WITH pain and steroid meds plus acupuncture. The ending paragraph where it mentions dogs being kept in a cage and inactive being archaic - is that only for the portion talking about the lack of pain killers? My vet and a lot of other people really emphasized the need for a strict 6-8 week crating period, WITH pain and steroid meds plus acupuncture.

]]> By: elaine http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/07/09/acupuncture-and-the-pain-of-long-backed-dogs/comment-page-1/#comment-485260 elaine Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:00:01 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=7850#comment-485260 Carlyne, please run-don't-walk to www.dodgerslist.com/ to get the best info on caring for a dog with IVDD. Also suggest you join the Yahoo group (Dodgerslist-subscribe@yahoogroups.com) so you have immediate access to people that can respond to questions, direct you to reliable resources. Acupuncture is used for IVDD dogs in some circumstances. I am incredibly fortunate never to have had a dog go down so do not have the info at my fingertips - but the folks at Dodgerslist do! Best of luck with your new addition, and thanks for providing him with a good home and appropriate care. elaine Den Grig Dachshunds Carlyne, please run-don’t-walk to http://www.dodgerslist.com/ to get the best info on caring for a dog with IVDD. Also suggest you join the Yahoo group (Dodgerslist-subscribe@yahoogroups.com) so you have immediate access to people that can respond to questions, direct you to reliable resources. Acupuncture is used for IVDD dogs in some circumstances. I am incredibly fortunate never to have had a dog go down so do not have the info at my fingertips - but the folks at Dodgerslist do!

Best of luck with your new addition, and thanks for providing him with a good home and appropriate care.

elaine
Den Grig Dachshunds

]]> By: Carlyne http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/07/09/acupuncture-and-the-pain-of-long-backed-dogs/comment-page-1/#comment-485257 Carlyne Wed, 31 Mar 2010 18:49:11 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=7850#comment-485257 We have a new adopted dachshund, who is estimated to be about 6 years old. He is having back spasms routinely, where he arches his back and cannot walk normally. He's our 6th dachshund, one of whom had surgery for an acutely ruptured disk. I'd like to avoid an acute disk problem, so I'm wondering if acupuncture can prevent disk rupture. We have a new adopted dachshund, who is estimated to be about 6 years old. He is having back spasms routinely, where he arches his back and cannot walk normally. He’s our 6th dachshund, one of whom had surgery for an acutely ruptured disk. I’d like to avoid an acute disk problem, so I’m wondering if acupuncture can prevent disk rupture.

]]> By: pdx1138 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/07/09/acupuncture-and-the-pain-of-long-backed-dogs/comment-page-1/#comment-469825 pdx1138 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:20:44 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=7850#comment-469825 I've always wondered about this. I noticed it not only on Dachshunds but also on basset hounds. Good to know there is a treatment for them. I’ve always wondered about this. I noticed it not only on Dachshunds but also on basset hounds.
Good to know there is a treatment for them.

]]> By: Dr. Narda http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/07/09/acupuncture-and-the-pain-of-long-backed-dogs/comment-page-1/#comment-468186 Dr. Narda Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:48:42 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=7850#comment-468186 Hi all, Nice comments, and thanks for your feedback! About chiropractic -- my feelings are mixed. I have heard about good outcomes and bad, including deaths in animals. I will elaborate a little bit more about the injury potential, because too often it seems like that gets overlooked in discussions with clients about chiropractic for animals. We definitely need research into the field in order to assess safety and effectiveness. Not just MORE research, as we usually hear regarding holistic modalities, but for chiropractic on animal companions and horses, etc., there's practically NONE. This is in contrast to acupuncture where we have a solid and growing body of evidence regarding its safety and effectiveness. In humans, there are widespread reports of serious neurological injury, including stroke and paralysis, following chiropractic. Because of these concerns, I generally will not recommend chiropractic for dogs with disc disease. SO much depends on the practitioner (and amount of force s/he uses and how much training and awareness s/he has about non-human anatomy, physiology, pathology, etc.), as well as what's really going on with the animal. As such, the more disastrous outcomes in animals have at times related to an incomplete understanding on the part of the practitioner about what the underlying disease process entails, or whether there are, in fact, contraindications to applying sudden, forceful movements to an animal's structure. Maybe there is an unstable spine, or a tumor in the back, or a disc about to herniate. In those cases, chiropractic thrusts applied to those locations could indeed cause trouble. I've written a few articles on chiropractic in animals. If anyone is interested, here are the links: http://csuvets.colostate.edu/pain/Articlespdf/When%20and%20Why%20Chiropractic.pdf http://csuvets.colostate.edu/pain/Articlespdf/Manual%20Therapy%20for%20Geriatric%20Patients.pdf http://csuvets.colostate.edu/pain/Articlespdf/Chiropractors%20as%20Primary%20Gatekeepers%20for%20Animals.pdf Hi all,

Nice comments, and thanks for your feedback!

About chiropractic — my feelings are mixed. I have heard about good outcomes and bad, including deaths in animals.

I will elaborate a little bit more about the injury potential, because too often it seems like that gets overlooked in discussions with clients about chiropractic for animals.

We definitely need research into the field in order to assess safety and effectiveness. Not just MORE research, as we usually hear regarding holistic modalities, but for chiropractic on animal companions and horses, etc., there’s practically NONE.

This is in contrast to acupuncture where we have a solid and growing body of evidence regarding its safety and effectiveness.

In humans, there are widespread reports of serious neurological injury, including stroke and paralysis, following chiropractic. Because of these concerns, I generally will not recommend chiropractic for dogs with disc disease.

SO much depends on the practitioner (and amount of force s/he uses and how much training and awareness s/he has about non-human anatomy, physiology, pathology, etc.), as well as what’s really going on with the animal.

As such, the more disastrous outcomes in animals have at times related to an incomplete understanding on the part of the practitioner about what the underlying disease process entails, or whether there are, in fact, contraindications to applying sudden, forceful movements to an animal’s structure. Maybe there is an unstable spine, or a tumor in the back, or a disc about to herniate. In those cases, chiropractic thrusts applied to those locations could indeed cause trouble.

I’ve written a few articles on chiropractic in animals. If anyone is interested, here are the links:

http://csuvets.colostate.edu/p.....ractic.pdf

http://csuvets.colostate.edu/p.....tients.pdf

http://csuvets.colostate.edu/p.....nimals.pdf

]]> By: Bill Beck http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/07/09/acupuncture-and-the-pain-of-long-backed-dogs/comment-page-1/#comment-468001 Bill Beck Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:02:15 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=7850#comment-468001 I have heard some very good success stories with smaller dogs being treated with Accupuncture. I am surprised that it is not more commonly known, especially considering the back issues so many various breeds of dogs experience. Hopefully we see more holistic treatment providers for pets! I have heard some very good success stories with smaller dogs being treated with Accupuncture. I am surprised that it is not more commonly known, especially considering the back issues so many various breeds of dogs experience. Hopefully we see more holistic treatment providers for pets!

]]> By: straybaby http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/07/09/acupuncture-and-the-pain-of-long-backed-dogs/comment-page-1/#comment-467973 straybaby Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:09:17 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=7850#comment-467973 How do you feel about chiropractors for long backed dogs? When one of the family Dachshunds started having back probs, my mom took him to our chiropractor. This was YEARS ago, but it really helped him, and also straightened out his back a good bit (he was becoming more "hump backed" as time went on) and his quality of life in his senior years seemed much better than we could have hoped. My mom would prob do either in this day and age, but back then, our chiro was a good "alternative" treatment, and iirc, he specifically trained in kids and pets. Yes, I went to him also, lol!~ Beat the heck out of what the "reg" docs wanted to do with my spine! {thanks mom!!} My current vet does acupuncture and holistic/eastern approaches along with traditional services. One of the reasons I love going there. And this is not some larger vet operation, but a smaller 'hood indie vet (I'm in NYC). I haven't needed the acupuncture treatments with my pets, but I like the approach of what they offer. I have been there when pet owners are "checking out" with their dogs that just had acu, and they seem so grateful for the treatment their pets receive. Me, I'm just happy they offer me treatments beyond the "standard". :) How do you feel about chiropractors for long backed dogs? When one of the family Dachshunds started having back probs, my mom took him to our chiropractor. This was YEARS ago, but it really helped him, and also straightened out his back a good bit (he was becoming more “hump backed” as time went on) and his quality of life in his senior years seemed much better than we could have hoped. My mom would prob do either in this day and age, but back then, our chiro was a good “alternative” treatment, and iirc, he specifically trained in kids and pets. Yes, I went to him also, lol!~ Beat the heck out of what the “reg” docs wanted to do with my spine! {thanks mom!!}

My current vet does acupuncture and holistic/eastern approaches along with traditional services. One of the reasons I love going there. And this is not some larger vet operation, but a smaller ‘hood indie vet (I’m in NYC). I haven’t needed the acupuncture treatments with my pets, but I like the approach of what they offer. I have been there when pet owners are “checking out” with their dogs that just had acu, and they seem so grateful for the treatment their pets receive. Me, I’m just happy they offer me treatments beyond the “standard”. :)

]]> By: Cait http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/07/09/acupuncture-and-the-pain-of-long-backed-dogs/comment-page-1/#comment-467902 Cait Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:59:08 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=7850#comment-467902 A friend's Cardi went down in the back several weeks ago. Accupuncture has made a HUGE difference in the early stages of his recovery. A friend’s Cardi went down in the back several weeks ago. Accupuncture has made a HUGE difference in the early stages of his recovery.

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