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	<title>Comments on: In California? Time to fax, call to stop the SB 250, the pet-killer bill</title>
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		<title>By: JenniferJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JenniferJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in California, the legislature is happy to pass the buck and make local agencies responsible for administering brain farts like this.

So some agencies will likely not enforce it or change what they do, others will seize it as an opportunity to make cash of fines or harass. a few may try to make it work but where the hell would the money come from? And those like Los Angeles will just heap it on top of the already steaming expensive and deadly pile of animal ordinances they cannot afford (but they can afford to send out over a dozen officers to raid an unofficial dog park and write 13 $25.00 citations where the owners MUST appear in COURT, &#039;cause that is a GREAT use of resources).

California&#039;s legislature is driven by clout and power and hitching your star to whatever wagon will get you into another office. We stopped the last one by screaming bloody murder until we could NOT be ignored. We need to get people motivated and moving and screaming again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in California, the legislature is happy to pass the buck and make local agencies responsible for administering brain farts like this.</p>
<p>So some agencies will likely not enforce it or change what they do, others will seize it as an opportunity to make cash of fines or harass. a few may try to make it work but where the hell would the money come from? And those like Los Angeles will just heap it on top of the already steaming expensive and deadly pile of animal ordinances they cannot afford (but they can afford to send out over a dozen officers to raid an unofficial dog park and write 13 $25.00 citations where the owners MUST appear in COURT, &#8216;cause that is a GREAT use of resources).</p>
<p>California&#8217;s legislature is driven by clout and power and hitching your star to whatever wagon will get you into another office. We stopped the last one by screaming bloody murder until we could NOT be ignored. We need to get people motivated and moving and screaming again.</p>
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		<title>By: retrieverman</title>
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		<dc:creator>retrieverman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This horrid bill just passed committee.

Now, if this were my state, the Commissioner of Agriculture would be telling every legislator that he doesn&#039;t have the funds or the manpower to enforce such a law. That&#039;s how bad pet legislation is stopped here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This horrid bill just passed committee.</p>
<p>Now, if this were my state, the Commissioner of Agriculture would be telling every legislator that he doesn&#8217;t have the funds or the manpower to enforce such a law. That&#8217;s how bad pet legislation is stopped here.</p>
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		<title>By: Luisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dammit:
http://saveourdogs.net/2009/06/30/sb250-clears-assembly-business-and-professions-committee/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dammit:<br />
<a href="http://saveourdogs.net/2009/06/30/sb250-clears-assembly-business-and-professions-committee/" rel="nofollow">http://saveourdogs.net/2009/06.....committee/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect that&#039;s the normal outward expression of internal debate. 

Look, they may well not change position statements now, in the near future or in the long-term. We&#039;ll have to see how it goes. 

In the meantime, we have a bill to fight here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that&#8217;s the normal outward expression of internal debate. </p>
<p>Look, they may well not change position statements now, in the near future or in the long-term. We&#8217;ll have to see how it goes. </p>
<p>In the meantime, we have a bill to fight here.</p>
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		<title>By: EmilyS</title>
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		<dc:creator>EmilyS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, meanwhile, supporters of this bill can find a variety of strong pro-MSN press releases on HSUS&#039; website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, meanwhile, supporters of this bill can find a variety of strong pro-MSN press releases on HSUS&#8217; website.</p>
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		<title>By: JenniferJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JenniferJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, we keep on keeping on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, we keep on keeping on!</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HSUS needs to realize that their real power base are the animal lovers all around this country, not the extremists, and leave the haters behind. They have the clout and power to do, I just wish they would.

Comment by JenniferJ — June 29, 2009

I wish they would, too. In the meantime, we wait ... and fight on without them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HSUS needs to realize that their real power base are the animal lovers all around this country, not the extremists, and leave the haters behind. They have the clout and power to do, I just wish they would.</p>
<p>Comment by JenniferJ — June 29, 2009</p>
<p>I wish they would, too. In the meantime, we wait &#8230; and fight on without them.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a supporter of PetPac, I got Bill Hemby&#039;s email today, and not being a CA resident, I dutifully emailed your Goobernator, pointing out that at this time in CA&#039;s history, this bill would be fiscally irresponsible since there is no way the state can afford to implement it! Further, that when CA had to approach the Federal Government for a bailout of it&#039;s fiscal crisis, I would be totally outraged at my tax dollars going to support a failed policy like mandatory speuter. Doubt if I did any good, but I tried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a supporter of PetPac, I got Bill Hemby&#8217;s email today, and not being a CA resident, I dutifully emailed your Goobernator, pointing out that at this time in CA&#8217;s history, this bill would be fiscally irresponsible since there is no way the state can afford to implement it! Further, that when CA had to approach the Federal Government for a bailout of it&#8217;s fiscal crisis, I would be totally outraged at my tax dollars going to support a failed policy like mandatory speuter. Doubt if I did any good, but I tried.</p>
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		<title>By: JenniferJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JenniferJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have my fingers, and everything else, crossed that HSUS comes down on the side of compassion and common sense and abandons the quest for MSN. And I am very glad that they have not taken a position of support.

I have NO faith that most of the politicians in Sacramento bother to actually read, understand the bills like SB 250 or actually look at support lists name by name. # years of trying to do even the most basic education for some has been an excercise in futility.

The aids and staff, who they count on to actually read the damn thing and tell them what&#039;s what and do research and who is signed on etc... are sometimes great, sometimes awful. And there are some &quot;hater&quot; on the staff of these committee members. 

Combine that with the assembly members who will not be on a committee which considers the bill and who may or may not think about it at all until a House vote.

I am quite concerned and dubious about the prospect of these assembly members actually knowing who are the backers, who aren&#039;t as they seem content to ignore tons of factual evidence that has been literally hand carried to them over and over again.

The hater contingent has been lying through their teeth since the battle started over AB1634. Easy enough for them to imply HSUS&#039; tacit agreement. Particularly when newspaper articles in AR friendly/fact poor publications link Florez with wayne Pacelle then go on to talk about a &quot;voter mandate&quot; and  drop SB250 in.

 I am sure that the SCiL crew and like minds ARE furious at HSUS. But I&#039;ll bet a bundle that they down play and blur over that fact when lobbying. Until and unless HSUS formally states they are withdrawing endorsement of MSN, it&#039;s easy for the haters to mislead. HSUS needs to realize that their real power base are tha animal lovers all around this country, not the extremists and leave the haters behind. They have the clout and power to do, I just wish they would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have my fingers, and everything else, crossed that HSUS comes down on the side of compassion and common sense and abandons the quest for MSN. And I am very glad that they have not taken a position of support.</p>
<p>I have NO faith that most of the politicians in Sacramento bother to actually read, understand the bills like SB 250 or actually look at support lists name by name. # years of trying to do even the most basic education for some has been an excercise in futility.</p>
<p>The aids and staff, who they count on to actually read the damn thing and tell them what&#8217;s what and do research and who is signed on etc&#8230; are sometimes great, sometimes awful. And there are some &#8220;hater&#8221; on the staff of these committee members. </p>
<p>Combine that with the assembly members who will not be on a committee which considers the bill and who may or may not think about it at all until a House vote.</p>
<p>I am quite concerned and dubious about the prospect of these assembly members actually knowing who are the backers, who aren&#8217;t as they seem content to ignore tons of factual evidence that has been literally hand carried to them over and over again.</p>
<p>The hater contingent has been lying through their teeth since the battle started over AB1634. Easy enough for them to imply HSUS&#8217; tacit agreement. Particularly when newspaper articles in AR friendly/fact poor publications link Florez with wayne Pacelle then go on to talk about a &#8220;voter mandate&#8221; and  drop SB250 in.</p>
<p> I am sure that the SCiL crew and like minds ARE furious at HSUS. But I&#8217;ll bet a bundle that they down play and blur over that fact when lobbying. Until and unless HSUS formally states they are withdrawing endorsement of MSN, it&#8217;s easy for the haters to mislead. HSUS needs to realize that their real power base are tha animal lovers all around this country, not the extremists and leave the haters behind. They have the clout and power to do, I just wish they would.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The HSUS lobbyist in Sacramento says -- as I&#039;ve posted a couple times before -- that the national organization is re-evaluating its policy statement on the efficacy of mandatory spay-neuter. Until that&#039;s complete, and whatever way it ends up, the HSUS has taken no position on SB 250. 

Yes, it&#039;s true that the HSUS has previously supported mandatory spay-neuter, both in policy and in cash. 

Not sure which way they&#039;re going to end up on their new policy deision, but for now you can well believe that the supporters of SB 250 are NOT happy with the silence of the HSUS.  And you can be even more certain that they don&#039;t like the HSUS refusing to fall into line with the &quot;all breeders are bad&quot; hate meme, as seen in this page on the HSUS Web site, o&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hsus.org/web-files/PDF/Good_breeder.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;n how to find a reputable, compassionate and ethical breeder. &lt;/a&gt;

In the meantime, of course, the HSUS well knows what a &lt;em&gt;bad breeder&lt;/em&gt; looks like. And today came out with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hsus.org/pets/pets_related_news_and_events/petland_investigation_2_062909.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;another broadside against Petland and the puppy-mills that supply it&lt;/a&gt;. 

This is as it should be: Humane groups AND reputable, ethical compassionate breeders against puppy-milling scum, and  ethical breeders left alone to preserve and protect our heritage breeds and our purpose-bred working dogs.  And ALL animal-lovers -- including reputable breeders -- working together on no-kill communities to get pets into good homes. 

Final word about the haters: The people who support forced spay-neuter also support those who &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2009-02-09-peta-westminster-kkk-protest_N.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;compare reputable breeders to the KKK&lt;/a&gt; even while the very same group &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nathanwinograd.com/?p=907&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kills more than 90 percent of the animals released to it.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The HSUS lobbyist in Sacramento says &#8212; as I&#8217;ve posted a couple times before &#8212; that the national organization is re-evaluating its policy statement on the efficacy of mandatory spay-neuter. Until that&#8217;s complete, and whatever way it ends up, the HSUS has taken no position on SB 250. </p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s true that the HSUS has previously supported mandatory spay-neuter, both in policy and in cash. </p>
<p>Not sure which way they&#8217;re going to end up on their new policy deision, but for now you can well believe that the supporters of SB 250 are NOT happy with the silence of the HSUS.  And you can be even more certain that they don&#8217;t like the HSUS refusing to fall into line with the &#8220;all breeders are bad&#8221; hate meme, as seen in this page on the HSUS Web site, o<a href="http://www.hsus.org/web-files/PDF/Good_breeder.pdf" rel="nofollow">n how to find a reputable, compassionate and ethical breeder. </a></p>
<p>In the meantime, of course, the HSUS well knows what a <em>bad breeder</em> looks like. And today came out with <a href="http://www.hsus.org/pets/pets_related_news_and_events/petland_investigation_2_062909.html" rel="nofollow">another broadside against Petland and the puppy-mills that supply it</a>. </p>
<p>This is as it should be: Humane groups AND reputable, ethical compassionate breeders against puppy-milling scum, and  ethical breeders left alone to preserve and protect our heritage breeds and our purpose-bred working dogs.  And ALL animal-lovers &#8212; including reputable breeders &#8212; working together on no-kill communities to get pets into good homes. </p>
<p>Final word about the haters: The people who support forced spay-neuter also support those who <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2009-02-09-peta-westminster-kkk-protest_N.htm" rel="nofollow">compare reputable breeders to the KKK</a> even while the very same group <a href="http://www.nathanwinograd.com/?p=907" rel="nofollow">kills more than 90 percent of the animals released to it.</a></p>
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