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	<title>Comments on: Old approaches don&#8217;t work, but old thinking continues to push them</title>
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		<title>By: straybaby</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/06/04/old-approaches-dont-work-but-old-thinking-continues-to-push-them/comment-page-1/#comment-455356</link>
		<dc:creator>straybaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jennifer! Doesn&#039;t CA have more pressing issues than whether my Yankee has furry balls or not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jennifer! Doesn&#8217;t CA have more pressing issues than whether my Yankee has furry balls or not?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 01:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The local high school has a Panther Pals club. The members volunteer at the county shelter. Some are under 18, which would normally exclude them, but the county was willing to provide liability coverage. It&#039;s worked out quite well. The kids are very motivated and do good things, petting and playing with the cats and walking the dogs.
FWIW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The local high school has a Panther Pals club. The members volunteer at the county shelter. Some are under 18, which would normally exclude them, but the county was willing to provide liability coverage. It&#8217;s worked out quite well. The kids are very motivated and do good things, petting and playing with the cats and walking the dogs.<br />
FWIW</p>
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		<title>By: JenniferJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JenniferJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 01:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that getting dogs and cats out to foster care helps to access some of the &quot;won&#039;t go to a shelter&quot; people who are good homes.

I have a friend who fosters for Anderson Valley Rescue and he basically markets the cats, if someone decides to adopt the fill out and send AVR a n application but the cats go from his home to the new owner.

He takes on the cats who would never show well at a shelter or even an offsite event or who were developing related issues.

I have been thinking that maybe a 4H shelter pet project might be a win win. Dogs or cats could be fostered with qualified 4H families. Kids in that chapter project could work on manners, training etc and part of the project could be the marketing and placement of the dog or cat. Kids could take classes through the local shelter and I am sure local animal related businesses could be persuaded to pitch in with food or supplies and services.

As this is 2009 I am sure there would be all sorts of liability issues.

OK, so now if SB250 and it&#039;s ilk would just go die I might even have time to research what these kind of programs would involve!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that getting dogs and cats out to foster care helps to access some of the &#8220;won&#8217;t go to a shelter&#8221; people who are good homes.</p>
<p>I have a friend who fosters for Anderson Valley Rescue and he basically markets the cats, if someone decides to adopt the fill out and send AVR a n application but the cats go from his home to the new owner.</p>
<p>He takes on the cats who would never show well at a shelter or even an offsite event or who were developing related issues.</p>
<p>I have been thinking that maybe a 4H shelter pet project might be a win win. Dogs or cats could be fostered with qualified 4H families. Kids in that chapter project could work on manners, training etc and part of the project could be the marketing and placement of the dog or cat. Kids could take classes through the local shelter and I am sure local animal related businesses could be persuaded to pitch in with food or supplies and services.</p>
<p>As this is 2009 I am sure there would be all sorts of liability issues.</p>
<p>OK, so now if SB250 and it&#8217;s ilk would just go die I might even have time to research what these kind of programs would involve!</p>
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		<title>By: JenniferJ</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/06/04/old-approaches-dont-work-but-old-thinking-continues-to-push-them/comment-page-1/#comment-455201</link>
		<dc:creator>JenniferJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 01:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Yankee can uncross his legs. :)

It passed the Senate due to severe arm twisting by the leadership, we get to keep grinding away on it in the Assembly now.

Has anyone else noted that SCiL and Florez and everyone else has stopped denying this is MSN? At least that fact has been made clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Yankee can uncross his legs. :)</p>
<p>It passed the Senate due to severe arm twisting by the leadership, we get to keep grinding away on it in the Assembly now.</p>
<p>Has anyone else noted that SCiL and Florez and everyone else has stopped denying this is MSN? At least that fact has been made clear.</p>
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		<title>By: straybaby</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/06/04/old-approaches-dont-work-but-old-thinking-continues-to-push-them/comment-page-1/#comment-455188</link>
		<dc:creator>straybaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh crap. MSN passed?! (I&#039;ve been a tad busy) When does it go into effect? Do I have to neuter Yankee before I move there?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh crap. MSN passed?! (I&#8217;ve been a tad busy) When does it go into effect? Do I have to neuter Yankee before I move there?!</p>
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		<title>By: EmilyS</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/06/04/old-approaches-dont-work-but-old-thinking-continues-to-push-them/comment-page-1/#comment-455183</link>
		<dc:creator>EmilyS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thumbs up Jenn J (and Gina for promoting).. absolutely NAILS it.
This one is my pet peeve: &quot;—S/N is the MOST important measure of pet owner responsibility. Whether you could not afford the procedure or have a health screened titled dog you’ve chosen not to alter, you are bad and irresponsible&quot;.

You could totally see that in the DKos comments on Christie&#039;s diary.  It didn&#039;t even OCCUR to anyone there that a person might want to own an intact animal and do so without the dogs creating unwanted litters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thumbs up Jenn J (and Gina for promoting).. absolutely NAILS it.<br />
This one is my pet peeve: &#8220;—S/N is the MOST important measure of pet owner responsibility. Whether you could not afford the procedure or have a health screened titled dog you’ve chosen not to alter, you are bad and irresponsible&#8221;.</p>
<p>You could totally see that in the DKos comments on Christie&#8217;s diary.  It didn&#8217;t even OCCUR to anyone there that a person might want to own an intact animal and do so without the dogs creating unwanted litters.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisRL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisRL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You certainly have encompassed the tone and attitudes being projected as facts on news reports (or some comments on the Daily Koz to Christie&#039;s entry) after the passage of SB250 in the CA Senate.

So where will Florez (who&#039;s padding his way to the Lt. Gov.ship) and Judie Mancuso be when those poor folks&#039; animals are confiscated in the scenario you describe above and the true huge costs of this bill come into play. Same place they are when L.A.s MSN s**t hits the fan, on to their next legislative attack on pet ownership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You certainly have encompassed the tone and attitudes being projected as facts on news reports (or some comments on the Daily Koz to Christie&#8217;s entry) after the passage of SB250 in the CA Senate.</p>
<p>So where will Florez (who&#8217;s padding his way to the Lt. Gov.ship) and Judie Mancuso be when those poor folks&#8217; animals are confiscated in the scenario you describe above and the true huge costs of this bill come into play. Same place they are when L.A.s MSN s**t hits the fan, on to their next legislative attack on pet ownership.</p>
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		<title>By: stellaluna</title>
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		<dc:creator>stellaluna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s awesome that you are involved in the SPP, Christie! I&#039;m looking forward to seeing that up and running. (Now if we can just get the Petfinder database to something resembling consistency....)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s awesome that you are involved in the SPP, Christie! I&#8217;m looking forward to seeing that up and running. (Now if we can just get the Petfinder database to something resembling consistency&#8230;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Christie Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christie Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Shelter Pet Project, the Ad Council&#039;s HUGE 3-year campaign to promote shelter adoptions, will run off the Petfinder database. I think it is going to do a great job of reaching those people &quot;outside&quot; the animal world with the shelter and rescue message!

Disclaimer: I&#039;m helping Maddie&#039;s Fund, one of the sponsors of the SPP, with this project. But I&#039;m there because I&#039;m a true believer, not the other way around. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Shelter Pet Project, the Ad Council&#8217;s HUGE 3-year campaign to promote shelter adoptions, will run off the Petfinder database. I think it is going to do a great job of reaching those people &#8220;outside&#8221; the animal world with the shelter and rescue message!</p>
<p>Disclaimer: I&#8217;m helping Maddie&#8217;s Fund, one of the sponsors of the SPP, with this project. But I&#8217;m there because I&#8217;m a true believer, not the other way around. :)</p>
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		<title>By: stellaluna</title>
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		<dc:creator>stellaluna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The first question I usually get at the shelter is “Are they housebroken?” Well, when there’s no doo doo in the kennel and they pee a river when they’re taken out, we figure that, yeah, they’re probably housebroken or close to it or would prefer to be. But the dog is in a stressful situation, so if they go in their kennel, who really knows what that means.&quot;
&quot;Comment by Susan Fox — June 4, 2009 @ 11:02 am&quot; 

People who come to shelters tend to have unrealistic expectations about what they are getting, and shelters are often entirely too optimistic about what they have. 

Add that to the fact that people who are getting rid of their pets are not always honest about the animals&#039; personality and training, because they&#039;re hoping to give it a better chance at being adopted. They tend to overlook the minuses and exaggerate the pluses. 

And you&#039;re right, it&#039;s just about impossible to tell what an animal is really like when you&#039;re seeing it in the kennel. Another good reason for reality checks for potential adopters -- they really need to know before they get there that they shouldn&#039;t expect perfection. Some people will be pleasantly surprised by what they end up with -- we do get some nice dogs with perfectly adequate house manners -- but for the most part, they need to think of a shelter as somewhere they will be able to save a life and give an animal a chance it might not have otherwise, not as a pet store or a kennel.

Granted, there are shelters with more resources than others that are able to put necessary basic training and grooming and socialization into their animals to help them be more adoptable, but it&#039;s just not that way everywhere. Sometimes they just have to go with what they have and do the best they can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The first question I usually get at the shelter is “Are they housebroken?” Well, when there’s no doo doo in the kennel and they pee a river when they’re taken out, we figure that, yeah, they’re probably housebroken or close to it or would prefer to be. But the dog is in a stressful situation, so if they go in their kennel, who really knows what that means.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Comment by Susan Fox — June 4, 2009 @ 11:02 am&#8221; </p>
<p>People who come to shelters tend to have unrealistic expectations about what they are getting, and shelters are often entirely too optimistic about what they have. </p>
<p>Add that to the fact that people who are getting rid of their pets are not always honest about the animals&#8217; personality and training, because they&#8217;re hoping to give it a better chance at being adopted. They tend to overlook the minuses and exaggerate the pluses. </p>
<p>And you&#8217;re right, it&#8217;s just about impossible to tell what an animal is really like when you&#8217;re seeing it in the kennel. Another good reason for reality checks for potential adopters &#8212; they really need to know before they get there that they shouldn&#8217;t expect perfection. Some people will be pleasantly surprised by what they end up with &#8212; we do get some nice dogs with perfectly adequate house manners &#8212; but for the most part, they need to think of a shelter as somewhere they will be able to save a life and give an animal a chance it might not have otherwise, not as a pet store or a kennel.</p>
<p>Granted, there are shelters with more resources than others that are able to put necessary basic training and grooming and socialization into their animals to help them be more adoptable, but it&#8217;s just not that way everywhere. Sometimes they just have to go with what they have and do the best they can.</p>
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