Comments on: Compounding pharmacies will feel the heat after death of polo ponies http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/04/23/compounding-pharmacies-will-feel-the-heat-after-death-of-polo-ponies/ Blogging by a team of pet-care experts. Tue, 07 Feb 2012 07:26:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: JenniferJ http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/04/23/compounding-pharmacies-will-feel-the-heat-after-death-of-polo-ponies/comment-page-1/#comment-434762 JenniferJ Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:47:35 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=6648#comment-434762 that, not hat. Sigh. Sleep, I neeeed you!!! that, not hat.

Sigh. Sleep, I neeeed you!!!

]]> By: JenniferJ http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/04/23/compounding-pharmacies-will-feel-the-heat-after-death-of-polo-ponies/comment-page-1/#comment-434761 JenniferJ Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:46:21 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=6648#comment-434761 Ok, so we need a sooper-sekrit code word for the word-hat-cannot-be-written.... Ok, so we need a sooper-sekrit code word for the word-hat-cannot-be-written….

]]> By: H. Houlahan http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/04/23/compounding-pharmacies-will-feel-the-heat-after-death-of-polo-ponies/comment-page-1/#comment-434737 H. Houlahan Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:01:58 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=6648#comment-434737 YOur filter nommed my comment on the previous post on this topic. The local compounding word-that-cannot-be-written was the only choice for, I think it was stilbestrol, which controls spay incontinence. It's not available for humans for the very good reason of, like, CERVICAL CANCER in the daughters of women who took it to prevent miscarriage. Terrible drug, if you are a pregnant human. Great if you are a spayed bitch. No chance of any daughters to get cancer. I'd hate to see such items be made unavailable because of this. After all, a VET wrote the prescription, yes? Will there be licensure action taken against the vet and the professional-that-cannot-be-written? YOur filter nommed my comment on the previous post on this topic.

The local compounding word-that-cannot-be-written was the only choice for, I think it was stilbestrol, which controls spay incontinence.

It’s not available for humans for the very good reason of, like, CERVICAL CANCER in the daughters of women who took it to prevent miscarriage.

Terrible drug, if you are a pregnant human. Great if you are a spayed bitch. No chance of any daughters to get cancer.

I’d hate to see such items be made unavailable because of this.

After all, a VET wrote the prescription, yes?

Will there be licensure action taken against the vet and the professional-that-cannot-be-written?

]]> By: Rosemary Rodd http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/04/23/compounding-pharmacies-will-feel-the-heat-after-death-of-polo-ponies/comment-page-1/#comment-434707 Rosemary Rodd Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:34:22 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=6648#comment-434707 The UK regulations have had some unfortunate effects where human medicines were in common use for animals and the human use was banned. The most significant one is probably cisapride, which used to be used to treat rabbits with gut stasis. The manufacturer never went through the process which would have been needed to get a licence to sell it as a drug for treating rabbits, so it became entirely unavailable here when its licence for sale as a human medicine was withdrawn. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisapride http://tinyurl.com/catyvx This is maybe an argument for better/different regulations on drug licensing rather than for or against letting pharmacies make up compound drugs from their components as I really can't see why it wouldn't have been possible to let the manufacturers license Cisapride for rabbits on the grounds that there was already a track record of use with no serious reported side effects. I can't see that there would have been any possible danger of illicit sales of a rabbit drug in order to treat human constipation! The UK regulations have had some unfortunate effects where human medicines were in common use for animals and the human use was banned. The most significant one is probably cisapride, which used to be used to treat rabbits with gut stasis.

The manufacturer never went through the process which would have been needed to get a licence to sell it as a drug for treating rabbits, so it became entirely unavailable here when its licence for sale as a human medicine was withdrawn.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisapride
http://tinyurl.com/catyvx

This is maybe an argument for better/different regulations on drug licensing rather than for or against letting pharmacies make up compound drugs from their components as I really can’t see why it wouldn’t have been possible to let the manufacturers license Cisapride for rabbits on the grounds that there was already a track record of use with no serious reported side effects. I can’t see that there would have been any possible danger of illicit sales of a rabbit drug in order to treat human constipation!

]]> By: Kate http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/04/23/compounding-pharmacies-will-feel-the-heat-after-death-of-polo-ponies/comment-page-1/#comment-434698 Kate Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:09:30 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=6648#comment-434698 Obviously something went seriously wrong here for 21 horses to drop dead within 3 hours of receiving whatever it is they received. I really need to question anyway this practice of performance enhancing substances being used in both human and animal sporting events. Ultimately sports are entertainment events. Humans and animals are capable of exceptional performance without stimulants or endurance enhancers. This should be a huge wake up call not just business as usual in my opinion. Horses are beautiful and majestic animals so I'm not falling for the "these horses died for the sport" nonsense at this point either. Not trying to get into an argument here just expressing my concerns. Obviously something went seriously wrong here for 21 horses to drop dead within 3 hours of receiving whatever it is they received. I really need to question anyway this practice of performance enhancing substances being used in both human and animal sporting events. Ultimately sports are entertainment events. Humans and animals are capable of exceptional performance without stimulants or endurance enhancers. This should be a huge wake up call not just business as usual in my opinion. Horses are beautiful and majestic animals so I’m not falling for the “these horses died for the sport” nonsense at this point either.

Not trying to get into an argument here just expressing my concerns.

]]> By: Gina Spadafori http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/04/23/compounding-pharmacies-will-feel-the-heat-after-death-of-polo-ponies/comment-page-1/#comment-434656 Gina Spadafori Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:19:03 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=6648#comment-434656 It's the word "pharmacy" that's triggering the spam filter. You know, as in Viagra, etc. Heck, I'll had to de-spam THIS comment ... and I run the blog. I released the comments I found, deleted all the spam (7K-plus) to make future searching easier. We'll keep an eye out for trapped comments, so if you lose one, let us know. It’s the word “pharmacy” that’s triggering the spam filter. You know, as in Viagra, etc. Heck, I’ll had to de-spam THIS comment … and I run the blog.

I released the comments I found, deleted all the spam (7K-plus) to make future searching easier. We’ll keep an eye out for trapped comments, so if you lose one, let us know.

]]> By: Janeen http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/04/23/compounding-pharmacies-will-feel-the-heat-after-death-of-polo-ponies/comment-page-1/#comment-434653 Janeen Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:11:43 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=6648#comment-434653 I suspect that Gina's right about significant changes coming to the compounding industry. I just hope that - for once - the government manages to make reasonable, common-sense changes rather than instituting "sweeping reforms" designed more as PR machines for their sponsors than to do any real good. IMO rules that prevent compounding pharmacies from producing their own versions of banned substances would be a very good place to start. I mean SRSLY - if I buy a compounding pharmacy, can I make my own crack or ectasy - or do I have to stick with the lightweight stuff like illegal steriods? I suspect that Gina’s right about significant changes coming to the compounding industry. I just hope that - for once - the government manages to make reasonable, common-sense changes rather than instituting “sweeping reforms” designed more as PR machines for their sponsors than to do any real good.

IMO rules that prevent compounding pharmacies from producing their own versions of banned substances would be a very good place to start. I mean SRSLY - if I buy a compounding pharmacy, can I make my own crack or ectasy - or do I have to stick with the lightweight stuff like illegal steriods?

]]> By: Janeen http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/04/23/compounding-pharmacies-will-feel-the-heat-after-death-of-polo-ponies/comment-page-1/#comment-434651 Janeen Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:08:33 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=6648#comment-434651 Is there a bug in the comment box? It seems to be refusing to post my comments too - then when I try to repost them, it rejects the comment as a duplicate. Is there a bug in the comment box? It seems to be refusing to post my comments too - then when I try to repost them, it rejects the comment as a duplicate.

]]> By: Gina Spadafori http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/04/23/compounding-pharmacies-will-feel-the-heat-after-death-of-polo-ponies/comment-page-1/#comment-434631 Gina Spadafori Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:24:24 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=6648#comment-434631 Can you give me some key words? I can find the nommed comments. (And there are close to 8K spam comments to sift through .... impossible without being able to search for a word or two.) Can you give me some key words? I can find the nommed comments. (And there are close to 8K spam comments to sift through …. impossible without being able to search for a word or two.)

]]> By: Anne T http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/04/23/compounding-pharmacies-will-feel-the-heat-after-death-of-polo-ponies/comment-page-1/#comment-434587 Anne T Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:32:04 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=6648#comment-434587 my comments got nommed too. :) I thought I'd made the error. Ignore one and post the other if you wish. Or ignore them both and post neither. my comments got nommed too. :) I thought I’d made the error. Ignore one and post the other if you wish. Or ignore them both and post neither.

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