Comments on: HSUS gets slammed for pushing dog killings http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/02/20/hsus-feels-the-heat-for-pushing-for-dog-deaths/ Blogging by a team of pet-care experts. Tue, 07 Feb 2012 07:26:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Josh http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/02/20/hsus-feels-the-heat-for-pushing-for-dog-deaths/comment-page-2/#comment-499398 Josh Sun, 26 Dec 2010 23:51:56 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=5626#comment-499398 Same thing the HSUS does at every rooster fight raid or anyone they suspect raising fighting birds. They come in and kill every bird there...healthy roosters, hens, chicks and eggs as well. All destroyed. And this is saving the animals? A least the ones fighting them give them a chance at life somewhat...the hsus slaughters EVERY last one of them...no chance...no compassion. They are no the saviors they are made out to be in alot of cases to put it lightly. Same thing the HSUS does at every rooster fight raid or anyone they suspect raising fighting birds. They come in and kill every bird there…healthy roosters, hens, chicks and eggs as well. All destroyed. And this is saving the animals? A least the ones fighting them give them a chance at life somewhat…the hsus slaughters EVERY last one of them…no chance…no compassion. They are no the saviors they are made out to be in alot of cases to put it lightly.

]]> By: grahund http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/02/20/hsus-feels-the-heat-for-pushing-for-dog-deaths/comment-page-2/#comment-405155 grahund Tue, 24 Feb 2009 04:26:24 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=5626#comment-405155 Oh lovely, let's have a meeting and reevaluate our policies. How about resurrecting the 145 dog you demanded be killed. Guess that won't happen, but you can have a friendly dialog. Killing 18 helpless puppies is not a failure of policy. It is a failure of leadership, of fundamental morality. What is it going to take to get HSUS to stop promoting breed specific legislation, mandatory spay neuter laws, breeder licensing laws and other laws that punish pet owners. How many more photo-op massacres to change a crisis driven fund raising organization back into an animal welfare organization? Oh lovely, let’s have a meeting and reevaluate our policies. How about resurrecting the 145 dog you demanded be killed. Guess that won’t happen, but you can have a friendly dialog. Killing 18 helpless puppies is not a failure of policy. It is a failure of leadership, of fundamental morality. What is it going to take to get HSUS to stop promoting breed specific legislation, mandatory spay neuter laws, breeder licensing laws and other laws that punish pet owners. How many more photo-op massacres to change a crisis driven fund raising organization back into an animal welfare organization?

]]> By: Susan Fox http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/02/20/hsus-feels-the-heat-for-pushing-for-dog-deaths/comment-page-2/#comment-405153 Susan Fox Tue, 24 Feb 2009 04:23:02 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=5626#comment-405153 Don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows, do ya Mr. Pacelle. Is that the sound of footsteps desperately running in an attempt to stay out in front on this issue before the HSUS gets run over by it? Don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows, do ya Mr. Pacelle.

Is that the sound of footsteps desperately running in an attempt to stay out in front on this issue before the HSUS gets run over by it?

]]> By: EmilyS http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/02/20/hsus-feels-the-heat-for-pushing-for-dog-deaths/comment-page-2/#comment-405144 EmilyS Tue, 24 Feb 2009 03:49:32 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=5626#comment-405144 hey, there's going to be a meeting! All good now! http://news.bestfriends.org/index.cfm?page=news&mode=entry&entry=A5FA8ABB-E5AB-575C-E288C54E52B91634 Like grahund, I'll remain skeptical until HSUS admits it was WRONG, fires (or reigns in) Goodwin and puts some actual real cash into pit bull rescue I think it's finger in the wind, and covers on the a**... hey, there’s going to be a meeting!
All good now!

http://news.bestfriends.org/in.....4E52B91634

Like grahund, I’ll remain skeptical until HSUS admits it was WRONG, fires (or reigns in) Goodwin and puts some actual real cash into pit bull rescue

I think it’s finger in the wind, and covers on the a**…

]]> By: grahund http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/02/20/hsus-feels-the-heat-for-pushing-for-dog-deaths/comment-page-2/#comment-405112 grahund Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:49:03 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=5626#comment-405112 Gina wrote: "I hope the HSUS does have its collective finger in the wind to feel the change and at least not impede progress." Instead of drifting in the breeze of public whim, I'd prefer that HSUS actually takes a hard look at morality of its positions, has a change of heart, and acknowledges that killing animals for convenience is just plain wrong. That's probably too much to ask from a organization devoted strictly to fund raising. I suppose that anything that gets them out of the way is better than nothing. Gina wrote: “I hope the HSUS does have its collective finger in the wind to feel the change and at least not impede progress.”

Instead of drifting in the breeze of public whim, I’d prefer that HSUS actually takes a hard look at morality of its positions, has a change of heart, and acknowledges that killing animals for convenience is just plain wrong. That’s probably too much to ask from a organization devoted strictly to fund raising. I suppose that anything that gets them out of the way is better than nothing.

]]> By: FrogDogz http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/02/20/hsus-feels-the-heat-for-pushing-for-dog-deaths/comment-page-2/#comment-405072 FrogDogz Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:48:42 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=5626#comment-405072 I think it's moved beyond just a wind, at this point - and Tornadoes are awfully good at knocking down straw houses, aren't they? I think it’s moved beyond just a wind, at this point - and Tornadoes are awfully good at knocking down straw houses, aren’t they?

]]> By: Gina Spadafori http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/02/20/hsus-feels-the-heat-for-pushing-for-dog-deaths/comment-page-2/#comment-404973 Gina Spadafori Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:36:30 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=5626#comment-404973 Very interesting observations, Sue. I hope the HSUS does have its collective finger in the wind to feel the change and at least not impede progress. Very interesting observations, Sue. I hope the HSUS does have its collective finger in the wind to feel the change and at least not impede progress.

]]> By: Sue Cosby http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/02/20/hsus-feels-the-heat-for-pushing-for-dog-deaths/comment-page-2/#comment-404965 Sue Cosby Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:14:12 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=5626#comment-404965 HSUS used to take a very strong stance against feral cat advocacy to the point of extermination. Most people were shocked to find out that, if they were looking to prevent the destruction of cats in their neighborhoods and gave HSUS a call, HSUS took the side of the exterminators. Boy were they sorry they called. Now HSUS was all up in their business, writing letters to their local governments, claiming what they were attempting to do was wrong. Very wrong. Feral cat people were shocked much in the same way that dog lovers are now shocked that HSUS is taking the same extermination stand on pit bulls who have been bred for fighting purposes. It was that shock and anger at policies that were so antithetical to the purported mission of HSUS that eventually convinced HSUS to change. It was only recently and it was a painfully slow process that is probably still to this day having a ripple effect throughout the organization as competing philosophies battle for their own policy turf. Advocates were never seeking for HSUS to become the banner waving standard bearer for feral cats. What they wanted was for them to get the hell out of the way and stop testifying to municipalities and writing official letters of condemnation regarding feral cat projects. That objective was accomplished and more. Much in the same way, I doubt any pit bull advocacy group expects or insists that HSUS take the lead and wave the pit bull banner. But for dog's sake they want them to get the hell out of the business of condemning the very animals they claimed to have saved. Testifying in a courtroom that the dogs should be killed is a mirror reflection of HSUS' previous feral cat extermination policy. I'm certain that they can and will change. HSUS used to take a very strong stance against feral cat advocacy to the point of extermination. Most people were shocked to find out that, if they were looking to prevent the destruction of cats in their neighborhoods and gave HSUS a call, HSUS took the side of the exterminators. Boy were they sorry they called. Now HSUS was all up in their business, writing letters to their local governments, claiming what they were attempting to do was wrong. Very wrong.

Feral cat people were shocked much in the same way that dog lovers are now shocked that HSUS is taking the same extermination stand on pit bulls who have been bred for fighting purposes.

It was that shock and anger at policies that were so antithetical to the purported mission of HSUS that eventually convinced HSUS to change. It was only recently and it was a painfully slow process that is probably still to this day having a ripple effect throughout the organization as competing philosophies battle for their own policy turf.

Advocates were never seeking for HSUS to become the banner waving standard bearer for feral cats. What they wanted was for them to get the hell out of the way and stop testifying to municipalities and writing official letters of condemnation regarding feral cat projects. That objective was accomplished and more.

Much in the same way, I doubt any pit bull advocacy group expects or insists that HSUS take the lead and wave the pit bull banner. But for dog’s sake they want them to get the hell out of the business of condemning the very animals they claimed to have saved. Testifying in a courtroom that the dogs should be killed is a mirror reflection of HSUS’ previous feral cat extermination policy.

I’m certain that they can and will change.

]]> By: Gina Spadafori http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/02/20/hsus-feels-the-heat-for-pushing-for-dog-deaths/comment-page-2/#comment-404668 Gina Spadafori Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:06:01 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=5626#comment-404668 There's nothing as grandioise as the courage of anonymous commentors. Except maybe the spoon-fed dogma they spew. Petdefense, when you get around to having an original thought and the courage to post your own name, feel free to drop back in. Until then, go find some other dittoheads to hang with. These issues are far more nuanced than the extremists on either side believe. There’s nothing as grandioise as the courage of anonymous commentors. Except maybe the spoon-fed dogma they spew.

Petdefense, when you get around to having an original thought and the courage to post your own name, feel free to drop back in. Until then, go find some other dittoheads to hang with.

These issues are far more nuanced than the extremists on either side believe.

]]> By: Petdefense http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/02/20/hsus-feels-the-heat-for-pushing-for-dog-deaths/comment-page-2/#comment-404659 Petdefense Sun, 22 Feb 2009 19:33:06 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=5626#comment-404659 That is why people realize you don't see the HSUS animal rights agenda. They have been killing animals for years;against offsite adoptions,even against feral cats,despite funding for TNR to give appearance of advocate. There is so much whitewash in HSUS,they are pushing LAWS across the US even against animal rescues.Like no warrant search/seizure. It's one thing for everyone to support their own opinion, it's another for a pet author to say HSUS only acts wrong when they kill the dogs. This isn't the first nor last time. HSUS is simply an AR marketing,strategist,political lobbying arm which uses deceptive media practices. You might read Daniel Oliver's book. HSUS has probably killed over 500 dogs/others you don't even know about.What HSUS has done for "fighting" is to make $$ for HSUS.After all, they have spent time on it, just like their amicus brief denied by Fed Ct in KY,and like their amicus brief lost on the Stevens' free speech case, which would criminalize films like Bambi. HSUS is like a sugar coated pill. Eye candy. But NOT saving pets/animals. That's just the whitewash that people see, and apparently, believe. That is why people realize you don’t see the HSUS animal rights agenda. They have been killing animals for years;against offsite adoptions,even against feral cats,despite funding for TNR to give appearance of advocate. There is so much whitewash in HSUS,they are pushing LAWS across the US even against animal rescues.Like no warrant search/seizure. It’s one thing for everyone to support their own opinion, it’s another for a pet author to say HSUS only acts wrong when they kill the dogs. This isn’t the first nor last time. HSUS is simply an AR marketing,strategist,political lobbying arm which uses deceptive media practices. You might read Daniel Oliver’s book. HSUS has probably killed over 500 dogs/others you don’t even know about.What HSUS has done for “fighting” is to make $$ for HSUS.After all, they have spent time on it, just like their amicus brief denied by Fed Ct in KY,and like their amicus brief lost on the Stevens’ free speech case, which would criminalize films like Bambi. HSUS is like a sugar coated pill. Eye candy. But NOT saving pets/animals. That’s just the whitewash that people see, and apparently, believe.

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