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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/02/09/fda-elk-mea/comment-page-1/#comment-401737</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 19:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, they CAN test for BSE or CWD in every animal if they wanted to. The USDA forbids it because if anyone does it, it might force all the others to do so too. Japan REQUIRES BSE testing of every animal. And that is why they don&#039;t want to buy our beef. Because the USDA won&#039;t permit ANY U.S. companies who WANT TO COMPLY with that Japanese IMPORT requirement to actually do so. 

Make no mistake folks, the USDA and FDA are not there to protect us or our pets, they are there to protect the corporations pure and simple. And it is but one of many aspects of our society that we need to fix. 

I had my fill when I watched heads of the FDA LIE to Congress during the pet food meltdown subcommittee hearings. They told the Congressmen that the U.S. DOES NOT IMPORT *ANY POULTRY* FROM CHINA. That is a bald faced LIE. I did indeed send emails to the Congresspeople on that subcommittee showing them photos of the labels of the pet treat and food products from China which were indeed being IMPORTED. 
It really was nice of the national pet chains to provide those label close ups, thank you very much. And the links made it so much more authentic. But did Congress listen? Nope. 
The devil is in the FDA details was - not for human consumption. So it is okay for your kids to handle the dog and cat kibble or treats that might have been exposed to H5N1 bird flu at the time, it just isn&#039;t okay for them to actually EAT the poultry, just okay for them to stick their hands in their mouths after handling the dog bowl. Yep. Protect us some more please. I cannot wait to see what else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, they CAN test for BSE or CWD in every animal if they wanted to. The USDA forbids it because if anyone does it, it might force all the others to do so too. Japan REQUIRES BSE testing of every animal. And that is why they don&#8217;t want to buy our beef. Because the USDA won&#8217;t permit ANY U.S. companies who WANT TO COMPLY with that Japanese IMPORT requirement to actually do so. </p>
<p>Make no mistake folks, the USDA and FDA are not there to protect us or our pets, they are there to protect the corporations pure and simple. And it is but one of many aspects of our society that we need to fix. </p>
<p>I had my fill when I watched heads of the FDA LIE to Congress during the pet food meltdown subcommittee hearings. They told the Congressmen that the U.S. DOES NOT IMPORT *ANY POULTRY* FROM CHINA. That is a bald faced LIE. I did indeed send emails to the Congresspeople on that subcommittee showing them photos of the labels of the pet treat and food products from China which were indeed being IMPORTED.<br />
It really was nice of the national pet chains to provide those label close ups, thank you very much. And the links made it so much more authentic. But did Congress listen? Nope.<br />
The devil is in the FDA details was - not for human consumption. So it is okay for your kids to handle the dog and cat kibble or treats that might have been exposed to H5N1 bird flu at the time, it just isn&#8217;t okay for them to actually EAT the poultry, just okay for them to stick their hands in their mouths after handling the dog bowl. Yep. Protect us some more please. I cannot wait to see what else.</p>
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		<title>By: Barb</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/02/09/fda-elk-mea/comment-page-1/#comment-400994</link>
		<dc:creator>Barb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yesterday, Dr. Michael Gregor of HSUS put out this release on Foie Gras:

Potential health risks associated with stressed foodstuffs:
http://www.genengnews.com/news/bnitem.aspx?name=49417483 


And here&#039;s a second write up on same story - http://www.netindia123.com/showdetails.asp?id=1174887&amp;cat=Health&amp;head=Foie+gras+may+up+Alzheimer%27s+risk%2C+warns+researcher  

Here&#039;s a study on this same subject:  

Subject: Amyloidogenic potential of foie gras
Date: June 22, 2007 at 2:23 pm PST

http://lists.ifas.ufl.edu/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0706&amp;L=sanet-mg&amp;P=9621</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday, Dr. Michael Gregor of HSUS put out this release on Foie Gras:</p>
<p>Potential health risks associated with stressed foodstuffs:<br />
<a href="http://www.genengnews.com/news/bnitem.aspx?name=49417483" rel="nofollow">http://www.genengnews.com/news.....e=49417483</a> </p>
<p>And here&#8217;s a second write up on same story - <a href="http://www.netindia123.com/showdetails.asp?id=1174887&#038;cat=Health&#038;head=Foie+gras+may+up+Alzheimer%27s+risk%2C+warns+researcher" rel="nofollow">http://www.netindia123.com/sho.....researcher</a>  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a study on this same subject:  </p>
<p>Subject: Amyloidogenic potential of foie gras<br />
Date: June 22, 2007 at 2:23 pm PST</p>
<p><a href="http://lists.ifas.ufl.edu/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0706&#038;L=sanet-mg&#038;P=9621" rel="nofollow">http://lists.ifas.ufl.edu/cgi-.....038;P=9621</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/02/09/fda-elk-mea/comment-page-1/#comment-400902</link>
		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;ll probably just spend the next couple of days in the bathroom ... salmonella will make healthy adults sick enough to wish for death for a couple of days  ... but it likely won&#039;t kill them.

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As for your ubiquitous PETA question, maybe this will help anwer that.

http://blog.peta.org/archives/.....update.php

Things like that help me to keep spending more for humanely raised turkeys.

Comment by Cooper — February 10, 2009 

Can you imagine how awful things would have to be to get cruelty charges in a factory farm? 

Eat less meat ... so you can afford to pay more to opt out of cruelty. I like the motto of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ethicurean.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ethicurean blog&lt;/a&gt;: Chew the right thing. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;ll probably just spend the next couple of days in the bathroom &#8230; salmonella will make healthy adults sick enough to wish for death for a couple of days  &#8230; but it likely won&#8217;t kill them.</p>
<p>&#8212;-</p>
<p>As for your ubiquitous PETA question, maybe this will help anwer that.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.peta.org/archives/.....update.php" rel="nofollow">http://blog.peta.org/archives/&#8230;..update.php</a></p>
<p>Things like that help me to keep spending more for humanely raised turkeys.</p>
<p>Comment by Cooper — February 10, 2009 </p>
<p>Can you imagine how awful things would have to be to get cruelty charges in a factory farm? </p>
<p>Eat less meat &#8230; so you can afford to pay more to opt out of cruelty. I like the motto of the <a href="http://www.ethicurean.com/" rel="nofollow">Ethicurean blog</a>: Chew the right thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Colorado Transplant</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/02/09/fda-elk-mea/comment-page-1/#comment-400890</link>
		<dc:creator>Colorado Transplant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The CEO is going to be asked to taste some peanut butter from his own factory at the congressional hearing--a news source reported today.

I am very worried about this CEO--I just hope he has some good medicine for a cure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CEO is going to be asked to taste some peanut butter from his own factory at the congressional hearing&#8212;a news source reported today.</p>
<p>I am very worried about this CEO&#8212;I just hope he has some good medicine for a cure.</p>
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		<title>By: Cooper</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/02/09/fda-elk-mea/comment-page-1/#comment-400751</link>
		<dc:creator>Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 01:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Itchmoforums reported back in December that CWD had been found in deer and elk heart meat.  First time that a TSE had been found in a muscle meat and that was back in 2006.

Itchmo is still MIA, but here is a link to a cache of that discussion.  There is a link to the research there.


http://preview.tinyurl.com/c473dd

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As for your ubiquitous PETA question, maybe this will help anwer that.

http://blog.peta.org/archives/2009/02/aviagen_update.php

Things like that help me to keep spending more for humanely raised turkeys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Itchmoforums reported back in December that CWD had been found in deer and elk heart meat.  First time that a TSE had been found in a muscle meat and that was back in 2006.</p>
<p>Itchmo is still MIA, but here is a link to a cache of that discussion.  There is a link to the research there.</p>
<p><a href="http://preview.tinyurl.com/c473dd" rel="nofollow">http://preview.tinyurl.com/c473dd</a></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>As for your ubiquitous PETA question, maybe this will help anwer that.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.peta.org/archives/2009/02/aviagen_update.php" rel="nofollow">http://blog.peta.org/archives/.....update.php</a></p>
<p>Things like that help me to keep spending more for humanely raised turkeys.</p>
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		<title>By: Barb</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/02/09/fda-elk-mea/comment-page-1/#comment-400718</link>
		<dc:creator>Barb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lucky for you, SmartDogs, it appears there have been no known case of CWD in New Zealand - 
New Zealand - 
http://www.biosecurity.govt.nz/pests/chronic-wasting-disease 

But in recents months, there&#039;s been plenty in the US in both Elk and Deer!  And we say &#039;buy US!&#039;

South Dakota - 
http://www.sdgfp.info/Wildlife/hunting/BigGame/CWDresults.htm 

http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/articles/2009/01/25/news/local/doc497d4469cf827811535010.txt

Michigan - 
http://www.michigan.gov/documents/emergingdiseases/CWD_Update_Dec_18_2008_Final_261168_7.pdf 

Wyoming - 
http://www.trib.com/articles/2008/12/30/news/wyoming/b7bccee3e3a2e5c88725752f00081245.txt  

Minnesota - 
http://www.bah.state.mn.us/bah/releases/nr2009-01-26.pdf 

USDA 2008 Report on what they &#039;say&#039; they are going to do - 
http://www.ars.usda.gov/research/projects/projects.htm?ACCN_NO=413072&amp;showpars=true&amp;fy=2008 

And...here&#039;s just one study which talks about how these infectious &#039;prions&#039; which cause CWD, BSE, etc...survives in soil, remaining infective - 

http://www.plospathogens.org/article/info:doi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.ppat.0020032

Point being, CWD is widespread in the US...they can&#039;t possibly test EVERY Deer/Elk before it&#039;s slaughtered then entered into food chain.  Wild animals can contract CWD just by traversing across contaminated soil, urine or feces from infected animal.

I feel for the hunters oblivious of what they might be eating, and for those who choose not to care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucky for you, SmartDogs, it appears there have been no known case of CWD in New Zealand -<br />
New Zealand -<br />
<a href="http://www.biosecurity.govt.nz/pests/chronic-wasting-disease" rel="nofollow">http://www.biosecurity.govt.nz.....ng-disease</a> </p>
<p>But in recents months, there&#8217;s been plenty in the US in both Elk and Deer!  And we say &#8216;buy US!&#8217;</p>
<p>South Dakota -<br />
<a href="http://www.sdgfp.info/Wildlife/hunting/BigGame/CWDresults.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sdgfp.info/Wildlife.....esults.htm</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/articles/2009/01/25/news/local/doc497d4469cf827811535010.txt" rel="nofollow">http://www.rapidcityjournal.co.....535010.txt</a></p>
<p>Michigan -<br />
<a href="http://www.michigan.gov/documents/emergingdiseases/CWD_Update_Dec_18_2008_Final_261168_7.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.michigan.gov/docume.....1168_7.pdf</a> </p>
<p>Wyoming -<br />
<a href="http://www.trib.com/articles/2008/12/30/news/wyoming/b7bccee3e3a2e5c88725752f00081245.txt" rel="nofollow">http://www.trib.com/articles/2.....081245.txt</a>  </p>
<p>Minnesota -<br />
<a href="http://www.bah.state.mn.us/bah/releases/nr2009-01-26.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.bah.state.mn.us/bah.....-01-26.pdf</a> </p>
<p>USDA 2008 Report on what they &#8216;say&#8217; they are going to do -<br />
<a href="http://www.ars.usda.gov/research/projects/projects.htm?ACCN_NO=413072&#038;showpars=true&#038;fy=2008" rel="nofollow">http://www.ars.usda.gov/resear.....38;fy=2008</a> </p>
<p>And&#8230;here&#8217;s just one study which talks about how these infectious &#8216;prions&#8217; which cause CWD, BSE, etc&#8230;survives in soil, remaining infective - </p>
<p><a href="http://www.plospathogens.org/article/info:doi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.ppat.0020032" rel="nofollow">http://www.plospathogens.org/a.....at.0020032</a></p>
<p>Point being, CWD is widespread in the US&#8230;they can&#8217;t possibly test EVERY Deer/Elk before it&#8217;s slaughtered then entered into food chain.  Wild animals can contract CWD just by traversing across contaminated soil, urine or feces from infected animal.</p>
<p>I feel for the hunters oblivious of what they might be eating, and for those who choose not to care.</p>
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		<title>By: SmartDogs</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/02/09/fda-elk-mea/comment-page-1/#comment-400706</link>
		<dc:creator>SmartDogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow... Glad that the last elk we got was from New Zealand. Local butcher special-ordered it for some jerk who left him hanging. He sold it to me at cost because -- with all the venision available here just for the shooting -- no one else wanted it.

Nom, nom -- and my brain cells should stay nice and firm (or was that dense?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; Glad that the last elk we got was from New Zealand. Local butcher special-ordered it for some jerk who left him hanging. He sold it to me at cost because &#8212; with all the venision available here just for the shooting &#8212; no one else wanted it.</p>
<p>Nom, nom &#8212; and my brain cells should stay nice and firm (or was that dense?)</p>
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		<title>By: Roberto</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/02/09/fda-elk-mea/comment-page-1/#comment-400700</link>
		<dc:creator>Roberto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read in the Washington Post that the roasted peanuts from the Texas plant tested positive and had been shipped out of state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read in the Washington Post that the roasted peanuts from the Texas plant tested positive and had been shipped out of state.</p>
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		<title>By: Barb</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/02/09/fda-elk-mea/comment-page-1/#comment-400697</link>
		<dc:creator>Barb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the story on the Texas plant that closed...they found &#039;possible&#039; salmonella.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/10/texas.peanut.butter.company/index.html?eref=ib_us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the story on the Texas plant that closed&#8230;they found &#8216;possible&#8217; salmonella.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/10/texas.peanut.butter.company/index.html?eref=ib_us" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/.....eref=ib_us</a></p>
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		<title>By: Colorado Transplant</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2009/02/09/fda-elk-mea/comment-page-1/#comment-400682</link>
		<dc:creator>Colorado Transplant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it is not the Peanut Corp of America in Georgia, but the branch in Texas that closed down.  Sorry for the misreporting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it is not the Peanut Corp of America in Georgia, but the branch in Texas that closed down.  Sorry for the misreporting.</p>
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