<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Business as usual: Houston pit bulls confirmed dead</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/12/01/business-as-usual-houston-pit-bulls-confirmed-dead/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/12/01/business-as-usual-houston-pit-bulls-confirmed-dead/</link>
	<description>The Web blog of the Pet Connection, a pet-care feature syndicated internationally by Universal Press.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:22:31 -0600</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: JenniferJ</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/12/01/business-as-usual-houston-pit-bulls-confirmed-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-378399</link>
		<dc:creator>JenniferJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=4398#comment-378399</guid>
		<description>I&#039;ve decided to to call this behavior Seize, Show, Slaughter, Scold.  Get the dogs, get on TV to say here are the victims yada yada, kill the &quot;victims&quot; without a second thought, blame everyone but yourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve decided to to call this behavior Seize, Show, Slaughter, Scold.  Get the dogs, get on TV to say here are the victims yada yada, kill the &#8220;victims&#8221; without a second thought, blame everyone but yourselves.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: EmilyS</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/12/01/business-as-usual-houston-pit-bulls-confirmed-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-378393</link>
		<dc:creator>EmilyS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=4398#comment-378393</guid>
		<description>&quot;we’re going to kill all their dogs and represent our killing of these owned dogs as evidence of their debased cruelty. Am I sounding cynical today?”

YOU&#039;RE not cynical, but your completely accurate representation expresses THEIR cynicism (and hypocricy) brilliantly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;we’re going to kill all their dogs and represent our killing of these owned dogs as evidence of their debased cruelty. Am I sounding cynical today?”</p>
<p>YOU&#8217;RE not cynical, but your completely accurate representation expresses THEIR cynicism (and hypocricy) brilliantly</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dutch</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/12/01/business-as-usual-houston-pit-bulls-confirmed-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-378385</link>
		<dc:creator>Dutch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=4398#comment-378385</guid>
		<description>I honestly don&#039;t see anything cynical in that at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly don&#8217;t see anything cynical in that at all.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: H. Houlahan</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/12/01/business-as-usual-houston-pit-bulls-confirmed-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-378361</link>
		<dc:creator>H. Houlahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=4398#comment-378361</guid>
		<description>While relevant to other situations, the criticism of dumbass &quot;temperament testing&quot; by shelters doesn&#039;t touch this story.

Does anyone think that a single one of these &quot;saved&quot; dogs got any kind of evaluation beyond &quot;Pit bull -- kill it?&quot;

Over on Blue Dog state, we have reports of two &quot;big&quot; cases in which &quot;dog-fighters&quot; were &quot;busted,&quot; all their dogs confiscated and quickly killed, including baby puppies, and the &quot;dog-fighters&quot; prosecuted vigorously -- only to be found not guilty.

I don&#039;t care whether they were not guilty because they weren&#039;t fighting dogs, because they had Johnny Cochran&#039;s smarter nephew for a lawyer, or because HSUS and law enforcement are the Keystone Kops -- they have been found innocent under the law, but have been punished prior to trial by having their animals kidnapped and killed.

So I can see a more nefarious motivation here:  &quot;We&#039;re going to screw up this prosecution (and/or) We know these guys weren&#039;t really dogfighters, we just don&#039;t like them -- so we are going to ensure that they are punished regardless of due process of law -- we&#039;re going to kill all their dogs and represent &lt;i&gt;our&lt;/i&gt; killing of these owned dogs as evidence of &lt;i&gt;their&lt;/i&gt; debased cruelty.&quot;

Am I sounding cynical today?  Seems when I indulge the dark suspicions, I end up being right most of the time.  Hate that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While relevant to other situations, the criticism of dumbass &#8220;temperament testing&#8221; by shelters doesn&#8217;t touch this story.</p>
<p>Does anyone think that a single one of these &#8220;saved&#8221; dogs got any kind of evaluation beyond &#8220;Pit bull &#8212; kill it?&#8221;</p>
<p>Over on Blue Dog state, we have reports of two &#8220;big&#8221; cases in which &#8220;dog-fighters&#8221; were &#8220;busted,&#8221; all their dogs confiscated and quickly killed, including baby puppies, and the &#8220;dog-fighters&#8221; prosecuted vigorously &#8212; only to be found not guilty.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care whether they were not guilty because they weren&#8217;t fighting dogs, because they had Johnny Cochran&#8217;s smarter nephew for a lawyer, or because HSUS and law enforcement are the Keystone Kops &#8212; they have been found innocent under the law, but have been punished prior to trial by having their animals kidnapped and killed.</p>
<p>So I can see a more nefarious motivation here:  &#8220;We&#8217;re going to screw up this prosecution (and/or) We know these guys weren&#8217;t really dogfighters, we just don&#8217;t like them &#8212; so we are going to ensure that they are punished regardless of due process of law &#8212; we&#8217;re going to kill all their dogs and represent <i>our</i> killing of these owned dogs as evidence of <i>their</i> debased cruelty.&#8221;</p>
<p>Am I sounding cynical today?  Seems when I indulge the dark suspicions, I end up being right most of the time.  Hate that.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: JenniferJ</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/12/01/business-as-usual-houston-pit-bulls-confirmed-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-377253</link>
		<dc:creator>JenniferJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=4398#comment-377253</guid>
		<description>&quot;But at that time, the shelter wouldn’t let us take out the Shelties who “showed fear.” They were killed. What a waste.&quot;

Bingo! That&#039;s just it. There is always a way to fail any dog. If the powers that be deem all pits, bull terrier or mastiff type dogs un-adoptable, it becomes a self fulfilling prophesy. If they want an excuse to kill more dogs to open up runs or save on cleaning, &quot;fearful&quot; or &quot;shy&quot; works just fine too. Barks at a neighbor? &quot;dog aggressive&quot;, kill him. Growls after being poked repeatedly in the head with a rubber hand? Even if she shows no concern or aggression towards actual human beings of any size in any capacity or situation? Kill her. Shows concern or &quot;excessive interest&quot; in the examiner playing with or pinching his foot? Red flag, your dead.  Makes steady eye contact with examiner? He&#039;s challenging the examiner, never mind his politely cocked head, low wagging tail and the submissive play-bow roll over he just did etc... kill him.

Until dogs are judged with common sense, as individuals, it will be very hard to reach no-kill goals. But very easy to find a quota of dogs to kill to make it cheaper and easier for those who don&#039;t want to deal with any potentially &quot;difficult&quot; dogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But at that time, the shelter wouldn’t let us take out the Shelties who “showed fear.” They were killed. What a waste.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bingo! That&#8217;s just it. There is always a way to fail any dog. If the powers that be deem all pits, bull terrier or mastiff type dogs un-adoptable, it becomes a self fulfilling prophesy. If they want an excuse to kill more dogs to open up runs or save on cleaning, &#8220;fearful&#8221; or &#8220;shy&#8221; works just fine too. Barks at a neighbor? &#8220;dog aggressive&#8221;, kill him. Growls after being poked repeatedly in the head with a rubber hand? Even if she shows no concern or aggression towards actual human beings of any size in any capacity or situation? Kill her. Shows concern or &#8220;excessive interest&#8221; in the examiner playing with or pinching his foot? Red flag, your dead.  Makes steady eye contact with examiner? He&#8217;s challenging the examiner, never mind his politely cocked head, low wagging tail and the submissive play-bow roll over he just did etc&#8230; kill him.</p>
<p>Until dogs are judged with common sense, as individuals, it will be very hard to reach no-kill goals. But very easy to find a quota of dogs to kill to make it cheaper and easier for those who don&#8217;t want to deal with any potentially &#8220;difficult&#8221; dogs.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: slt</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/12/01/business-as-usual-houston-pit-bulls-confirmed-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-377169</link>
		<dc:creator>slt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=4398#comment-377169</guid>
		<description>I wonder if people would like to be taken from their homes, plopped in a homeless shelter and then filmed for a spot on a dating service website?  Hullo, they might not be at their sparkly best just then!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if people would like to be taken from their homes, plopped in a homeless shelter and then filmed for a spot on a dating service website?  Hullo, they might not be at their sparkly best just then!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/12/01/business-as-usual-houston-pit-bulls-confirmed-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-377145</link>
		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=4398#comment-377145</guid>
		<description>We had a different problem with shelters when I was running NorCal Sheltie rescue. Shelties are often shy and reserved in unusual situations, and it&#039;s not uncommon to have to peel them off the back wall of a shelter run.

Get them in a normal home setting, and they&#039;re fine. They warm up and relax. 

But at that time, the shelter wouldn&#039;t let us take out the Shelties who &quot;showed fear.&quot; They were killed. What a waste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had a different problem with shelters when I was running NorCal Sheltie rescue. Shelties are often shy and reserved in unusual situations, and it&#8217;s not uncommon to have to peel them off the back wall of a shelter run.</p>
<p>Get them in a normal home setting, and they&#8217;re fine. They warm up and relax. </p>
<p>But at that time, the shelter wouldn&#8217;t let us take out the Shelties who &#8220;showed fear.&#8221; They were killed. What a waste.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: JenniferJ</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/12/01/business-as-usual-houston-pit-bulls-confirmed-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-377105</link>
		<dc:creator>JenniferJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=4398#comment-377105</guid>
		<description>Lunging, oy.

I recently fostered a fabulous EB who was failed in his temperament test at a county shelter because he jumped o the gate of his run when the tester approached.

Several other shelter workers were horrified, called in a tester from Marin Humane who passed him which let him make into rescue where he proved rock solid and was quickly adopted. Shelter workers have confided in rescue since that the tester has set in stone breed biases and routinely fails dogs of breeds she dislikes which are then killed without the management ever raising an eyebrow.

People see what they want to see. By approaching any dog&#039;s run or crate in the right manner I could make them jump or lunge if I wanted to/ And exercise starved, confused, frightened or poorly socialized dogs will often leap or lunge when confined but relax the moment you say &quot;hi&quot; and open the door.

By the sort of criteria used in many &quot;shelters&quot; every dog who barks at their owner&#039;s front door when a stranger knocks should be blue solutioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lunging, oy.</p>
<p>I recently fostered a fabulous EB who was failed in his temperament test at a county shelter because he jumped o the gate of his run when the tester approached.</p>
<p>Several other shelter workers were horrified, called in a tester from Marin Humane who passed him which let him make into rescue where he proved rock solid and was quickly adopted. Shelter workers have confided in rescue since that the tester has set in stone breed biases and routinely fails dogs of breeds she dislikes which are then killed without the management ever raising an eyebrow.</p>
<p>People see what they want to see. By approaching any dog&#8217;s run or crate in the right manner I could make them jump or lunge if I wanted to/ And exercise starved, confused, frightened or poorly socialized dogs will often leap or lunge when confined but relax the moment you say &#8220;hi&#8221; and open the door.</p>
<p>By the sort of criteria used in many &#8220;shelters&#8221; every dog who barks at their owner&#8217;s front door when a stranger knocks should be blue solutioned.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: straybaby</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/12/01/business-as-usual-houston-pit-bulls-confirmed-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-376901</link>
		<dc:creator>straybaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=4398#comment-376901</guid>
		<description>Renee, you wouldn&#039;t want them &quot;back on the streets&quot; but you wouldn&#039;t put them down? What would you do with them?

In my neck of the woods, we don&#039;t consider adopting them out as putting them back on the streets. We consider it putting them in good homes.

Emily, I&#039;m with you on the lunging. Also, I&#039;ve never seen it as a breed specific behavior. Here in NY it&#039;s an equal opportunity behavior, lol!~

Cait, is that a bounce or a BOING!, lol!~ One of my favorite things to do was to get about 20-30 kenneled dogs to all sit nicely at the front of their runs and not bark or bounce when somebody walked in. I think the dogs thought I was nuts  ;)

It&#039;s heartbreaking that they just mass euthed. Every dog deserves to be given a fair evaluation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Renee, you wouldn&#8217;t want them &#8220;back on the streets&#8221; but you wouldn&#8217;t put them down? What would you do with them?</p>
<p>In my neck of the woods, we don&#8217;t consider adopting them out as putting them back on the streets. We consider it putting them in good homes.</p>
<p>Emily, I&#8217;m with you on the lunging. Also, I&#8217;ve never seen it as a breed specific behavior. Here in NY it&#8217;s an equal opportunity behavior, lol!~</p>
<p>Cait, is that a bounce or a BOING!, lol!~ One of my favorite things to do was to get about 20-30 kenneled dogs to all sit nicely at the front of their runs and not bark or bounce when somebody walked in. I think the dogs thought I was nuts  ;)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s heartbreaking that they just mass euthed. Every dog deserves to be given a fair evaluation.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Danielle</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/12/01/business-as-usual-houston-pit-bulls-confirmed-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-376876</link>
		<dc:creator>Danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=4398#comment-376876</guid>
		<description>Have these people not done any research?  Watched TV?  Read this blog?
Am staffs, Pitbulls or whatever you call them were also known as Nanny Dogs in England because they helped care for the children.  
Now who would do that with a dangerous dog?
A dog stressed out at a shelter or A/C, with other dogs barking, smell of blood, feces and death, crappy food, disease, and strangers, sleeping in many cases on a cold cement floor is not the time nor place to judge a dogs character!
Yes, many dogs aren&#039;t stressed, but give them a break!  Some are!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have these people not done any research?  Watched TV?  Read this blog?<br />
Am staffs, Pitbulls or whatever you call them were also known as Nanny Dogs in England because they helped care for the children.<br />
Now who would do that with a dangerous dog?<br />
A dog stressed out at a shelter or A/C, with other dogs barking, smell of blood, feces and death, crappy food, disease, and strangers, sleeping in many cases on a cold cement floor is not the time nor place to judge a dogs character!<br />
Yes, many dogs aren&#8217;t stressed, but give them a break!  Some are!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
