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	<title>Comments on: HSUS links Petland to puppy mills</title>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/11/20/hsus-links-petland-to-puppy-mills/comment-page-1/#comment-378438</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seems to be such a disconnect between all the &quot;soft&quot; journalism articles on how many household these days own pets and how much money we spend on our pets and the reality that pets/pet owners don&#039;t have a real voice when it comes to talking with our government about their needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be such a disconnect between all the &#8220;soft&#8221; journalism articles on how many household these days own pets and how much money we spend on our pets and the reality that pets/pet owners don&#8217;t have a real voice when it comes to talking with our government about their needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/11/20/hsus-links-petland-to-puppy-mills/comment-page-1/#comment-378430</link>
		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, if you want to tell Petland to quit trying to change the subject, quit blaming the HSUS for Petland&#039;s own dealings with puppy-mill scum (all of them hiding behind the skirts of the ineffective, enabling U.S. Department of &lt;strike&gt;Pets Are Livestock&lt;/strike&gt;Agriculture), &lt;a href=https://community.hsus.org/campaign/US_2008_petland?source=gaba5n rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;you can drop them a line here.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, if you want to tell Petland to quit trying to change the subject, quit blaming the HSUS for Petland&#8217;s own dealings with puppy-mill scum (all of them hiding behind the skirts of the ineffective, enabling U.S. Department of <strike>Pets Are Livestock</strike>Agriculture), <a href=https://community.hsus.org/campaign/US_2008_petland?source=gaba5n rel="nofollow">you can drop them a line here.</a></p>
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		<title>By: The OTHER Pat</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/11/20/hsus-links-petland-to-puppy-mills/comment-page-1/#comment-378414</link>
		<dc:creator>The OTHER Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wayne.  Many of the commercial breeders selling merchandise - um - puppies - to Petland are operating well within the law, as written and enforced by the USDA.

Oh - and that &quot;A&quot; at the end?  It stands for &quot;Agriculture&quot;.  As in &quot;animals raised for the purpose of becoming dinner most of whom will have very short lifetimes&quot;.

It remains completely illogical why THEY should have anything to say about the conditions of animals being raised to be COMPANIONS (animals intended to have very LONG lifetimes) - i.e. Dogs and Cats.

Why does this matter?  Well - how an animal is raised quite often determines a lot about that animal&#039;s temperament and ingrained behaviors for the rest of its life.  Ever heard the saying &quot;Were you raised in a barn?&quot;  Well, to raise a dog like a barn animal, and then expect it to have the temperament to successfully adapt to being a companion in someone&#039;s home just doesn&#039;t make sense.

That&#039;s just one of MANY reasons why an organization that oversees AGRICULTURE has no business overseeing the raising of companion dogs and cats.  Even if the commercial breeders are doing everything according to Hoyle - um - USDA - it&#039;s STILL not the way dogs and cats intended to be companion animals should be raised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne.  Many of the commercial breeders selling merchandise - um - puppies - to Petland are operating well within the law, as written and enforced by the USDA.</p>
<p>Oh - and that &#8220;A&#8221; at the end?  It stands for &#8220;Agriculture&#8221;.  As in &#8220;animals raised for the purpose of becoming dinner most of whom will have very short lifetimes&#8221;.</p>
<p>It remains completely illogical why THEY should have anything to say about the conditions of animals being raised to be COMPANIONS (animals intended to have very LONG lifetimes) - i.e. Dogs and Cats.</p>
<p>Why does this matter?  Well - how an animal is raised quite often determines a lot about that animal&#8217;s temperament and ingrained behaviors for the rest of its life.  Ever heard the saying &#8220;Were you raised in a barn?&#8221;  Well, to raise a dog like a barn animal, and then expect it to have the temperament to successfully adapt to being a companion in someone&#8217;s home just doesn&#8217;t make sense.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just one of MANY reasons why an organization that oversees AGRICULTURE has no business overseeing the raising of companion dogs and cats.  Even if the commercial breeders are doing everything according to Hoyle - um - USDA - it&#8217;s STILL not the way dogs and cats intended to be companion animals should be raised.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will guarantee you that reporting them to the U.S. Department of &lt;em&gt;Agriculture&lt;/em&gt; (which facilitates the raising of dogs as &lt;em&gt;livestock&lt;/em&gt;) or local law enforcement (which can&#039;t even keep on top of local meth labs) will do nothing to stop the cruelty, and nothing to change the reality of this immoral, scum industry. 

What the HSUS did -- going public with the story -- will stop more people from buying puppy-mill dogs than reporting a cruelty infraction ever would have. 

The NRA is also a fund-raising business, but that doesn&#039;t change the fact that they have done more to support our second-amendment rights than any other entity. (I&#039;m an NRA member.)

&lt;em&gt;I don&#039;t care&lt;/em&gt; that the HSUS uses the puppy mill issue to raise money. They use the money to raise awareness, and getting people to STOP BUYING puppy-mill dogs is the only thing that will change the situation. 

But thanks for dropping in, oh commenter too gutless to use your own name, and too incapable of independent thought to do anything but mimic the &quot;H$U$&quot; BS. 

We have issues with the HSUS. We&#039;ve written about those issue, lots of times. But they remain on the side of angels on the issue of puppy mills, and have been there for 50 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will guarantee you that reporting them to the U.S. Department of <em>Agriculture</em> (which facilitates the raising of dogs as <em>livestock</em>) or local law enforcement (which can&#8217;t even keep on top of local meth labs) will do nothing to stop the cruelty, and nothing to change the reality of this immoral, scum industry. </p>
<p>What the HSUS did &#8212; going public with the story &#8212; will stop more people from buying puppy-mill dogs than reporting a cruelty infraction ever would have. </p>
<p>The NRA is also a fund-raising business, but that doesn&#8217;t change the fact that they have done more to support our second-amendment rights than any other entity. (I&#8217;m an NRA member.)</p>
<p><em>I don&#8217;t care</em> that the HSUS uses the puppy mill issue to raise money. They use the money to raise awareness, and getting people to STOP BUYING puppy-mill dogs is the only thing that will change the situation. </p>
<p>But thanks for dropping in, oh commenter too gutless to use your own name, and too incapable of independent thought to do anything but mimic the &#8220;H$U$&#8221; BS. </p>
<p>We have issues with the HSUS. We&#8217;ve written about those issue, lots of times. But they remain on the side of angels on the issue of puppy mills, and have been there for 50 years.</p>
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		<title>By: WayneInDC</title>
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		<dc:creator>WayneInDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>H$U$ is a CORPORATE fund raising business that does not truly care about animals.  Don’t believe me?  Ask YOURSELF this question:
Why has the H$U$ NOT reported Petland or any said breeders to the USDA or law enforcement?

Good question!  If these puppies were suffering, the breeders and Petland should be reported immediately! If you saw somebody mistreating an animal would YOU wait a few months before stopping it?  I would hope not…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>H$U$ is a CORPORATE fund raising business that does not truly care about animals.  Don’t believe me?  Ask YOURSELF this question:<br />
Why has the H$U$ NOT reported Petland or any said breeders to the USDA or law enforcement?</p>
<p>Good question!  If these puppies were suffering, the breeders and Petland should be reported immediately! If you saw somebody mistreating an animal would YOU wait a few months before stopping it?  I would hope not…</p>
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		<title>By: The OTHER Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>The OTHER Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy.

Responsible Breeders place their OWN animals directly into homes that THEY have selected.  Period.

That is NOT what is going on with the puppies at Petland, and that is ALL we need to know about the puppy producers who churn out puppies for retail at those stores.

Serious dog people saw this report from HSUS and universally said &quot;Well - yeah!  We&#039;ve known this stuff for YEARS!&quot;

HSUS hasn&#039;t &quot;discovered&quot; anything new.  Knowledgeable dog people have been aware of the source of Petland puppies for a long, long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy.</p>
<p>Responsible Breeders place their OWN animals directly into homes that THEY have selected.  Period.</p>
<p>That is NOT what is going on with the puppies at Petland, and that is ALL we need to know about the puppy producers who churn out puppies for retail at those stores.</p>
<p>Serious dog people saw this report from HSUS and universally said &#8220;Well - yeah!  We&#8217;ve known this stuff for YEARS!&#8221;</p>
<p>HSUS hasn&#8217;t &#8220;discovered&#8221; anything new.  Knowledgeable dog people have been aware of the source of Petland puppies for a long, long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Joy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, do you do business with Petland?  I found a mention of your name in their newsletter.  Just curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, do you do business with Petland?  I found a mention of your name in their newsletter.  Just curious.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/11/20/hsus-links-petland-to-puppy-mills/comment-page-1/#comment-376278</link>
		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you know about breeding cycles and how often a dog can breed or when they can breed? 

... then tell me how you feel.

Comment by Andy Mooney — November 30, 2008 

Any of the bloggers here have forgotten more about pets than you will ever know, Andy. 

As for what I feel, well, I feel you are at the very least an apologist for a sick, immoral industry. And I feel that every puppy-mill retail outlet should either quit selling puppies to anyone with a credit card or that they should go out of business.

I feel the world will be a better place when people are informed enough not to buy the BS of puppy-millers.

And finally, I feel you should not let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you know about breeding cycles and how often a dog can breed or when they can breed? </p>
<p>&#8230; then tell me how you feel.</p>
<p>Comment by Andy Mooney — November 30, 2008 </p>
<p>Any of the bloggers here have forgotten more about pets than you will ever know, Andy. </p>
<p>As for what I feel, well, I feel you are at the very least an apologist for a sick, immoral industry. And I feel that every puppy-mill retail outlet should either quit selling puppies to anyone with a credit card or that they should go out of business.</p>
<p>I feel the world will be a better place when people are informed enough not to buy the BS of puppy-millers.</p>
<p>And finally, I feel you should not let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Mooney</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/11/20/hsus-links-petland-to-puppy-mills/comment-page-1/#comment-376274</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Mooney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahaha gosh you sure sound like you know a lot about the breeders. You must travel around and visit them one at a time. What do you know about breeding cycles and how often a dog can breed or when they can breed? As for offering space for sheltered dogs petland DOES that! Look into Petlands Adopt-a-Pet program. Eve nat shelters you still get charged when u purchase a puppy they make you pay for the shots which is exactly what petland does. Some people prefer registered pure bred dogs and may not have access to breeders in their area. Thats when they go to petland. But really please look at the income tax and what the HSUS spent all their donated money on and then tell me how you feel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahaha gosh you sure sound like you know a lot about the breeders. You must travel around and visit them one at a time. What do you know about breeding cycles and how often a dog can breed or when they can breed? As for offering space for sheltered dogs petland DOES that! Look into Petlands Adopt-a-Pet program. Eve nat shelters you still get charged when u purchase a puppy they make you pay for the shots which is exactly what petland does. Some people prefer registered pure bred dogs and may not have access to breeders in their area. Thats when they go to petland. But really please look at the income tax and what the HSUS spent all their donated money on and then tell me how you feel.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh puh-lease. 

Again, for the clue-impaired: 

1) NO REPUTABLE, ETHICAL BREEDER SELLS THROUGH A THIRD PARTY. They take responsibility for the puppies they breed into this world for LIFE and that means placing them directly with families that work because they fit and are prepared. Not because they have a credit card. 

2) U.S. Department of Agriculture &quot;approval&quot; is the sure sign of a high-volume commercial kennel. By USDA regulations, puppies cannot be raised in the home and socialized like family members. &quot;USDA&quot; = GET YOUR PUPPY ELSEWHERE.

Dogs should not be treated like livestock, and a &quot;clean&quot; vet-checked puppy-mill is still not a recommended source for family companion. 

Andy, I don&#039;t know which Petland franchise you own or work for, but you can kid yourself all you want and that&#039;s fine if it&#039;s how YOU sleep at night. But puppy-farming is still a sick industry, and we will not recommend it here. 

Not ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh puh-lease. </p>
<p>Again, for the clue-impaired: </p>
<p>1) NO REPUTABLE, ETHICAL BREEDER SELLS THROUGH A THIRD PARTY. They take responsibility for the puppies they breed into this world for LIFE and that means placing them directly with families that work because they fit and are prepared. Not because they have a credit card. </p>
<p>2) U.S. Department of Agriculture &#8220;approval&#8221; is the sure sign of a high-volume commercial kennel. By USDA regulations, puppies cannot be raised in the home and socialized like family members. &#8220;USDA&#8221; = GET YOUR PUPPY ELSEWHERE.</p>
<p>Dogs should not be treated like livestock, and a &#8220;clean&#8221; vet-checked puppy-mill is still not a recommended source for family companion. </p>
<p>Andy, I don&#8217;t know which Petland franchise you own or work for, but you can kid yourself all you want and that&#8217;s fine if it&#8217;s how YOU sleep at night. But puppy-farming is still a sick industry, and we will not recommend it here. </p>
<p>Not ever.</p>
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