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		<title>By: Annie</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/10/28/melamine-in-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-377834</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melamine in soymilk? Heavy metals in food from China?

http://givingupcontrol.wordpress.com/category/melamine/

the San Francisco Gate is following the melamine issue closely
Cheap food may bring next health crisis  Nov. 30, 08

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/11/29/IN9N14C47T.DTL

A 2008 federal study reports that the prevalence of chronic kidney disease in the United States has increased from 20 percent to 25 percent in the past decade - and for older Americans, it is significantly higher. Is it a coincidence that these trends parallel the imports from China?

Few consumers would know that globally sourced food ingredients are in everyday items with familiar brand names like Nutri-Grain bars and Sara Lee bread. &quot;Ingredient sourcing&quot; is veiled in much secrecy - distributors don&#039;t want you to know where they get your food. Marketing hype and well-crafted packaging of branded processed foods - even many of those labeled &quot;organic&quot; - often lead us to believe that their ingredients are from U.S. farms. But organic doesn&#039;t always mean domestic.

Consumers need better oversight of food imports

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/11/29/INPD149N15.DTL

We should not have to rely on Chinese babies sickened by tainted milk to sound a warning bell, nor should we need advanced training in food science and international trade before venturing into a supermarket. We need a strong, well-funded and fully staffed food inspection force and comprehensive food labeling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melamine in soymilk? Heavy metals in food from China?</p>
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<p>the San Francisco Gate is following the melamine issue closely<br />
Cheap food may bring next health crisis  Nov. 30, 08</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/11/29/IN9N14C47T.DTL" rel="nofollow">http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/.....14C47T.DTL</a></p>
<p>A 2008 federal study reports that the prevalence of chronic kidney disease in the United States has increased from 20 percent to 25 percent in the past decade - and for older Americans, it is significantly higher. Is it a coincidence that these trends parallel the imports from China?</p>
<p>Few consumers would know that globally sourced food ingredients are in everyday items with familiar brand names like Nutri-Grain bars and Sara Lee bread. &#8220;Ingredient sourcing&#8221; is veiled in much secrecy - distributors don&#8217;t want you to know where they get your food. Marketing hype and well-crafted packaging of branded processed foods - even many of those labeled &#8220;organic&#8221; - often lead us to believe that their ingredients are from U.S. farms. But organic doesn&#8217;t always mean domestic.</p>
<p>Consumers need better oversight of food imports</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/11/29/INPD149N15.DTL" rel="nofollow">http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/.....149N15.DTL</a></p>
<p>We should not have to rely on Chinese babies sickened by tainted milk to sound a warning bell, nor should we need advanced training in food science and international trade before venturing into a supermarket. We need a strong, well-funded and fully staffed food inspection force and comprehensive food labeling.</p>
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		<title>By: DJP</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/10/28/melamine-in-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-374752</link>
		<dc:creator>DJP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 04:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would not be so sure.  On mail.com there is an article about melamine in baby formula here, and it is baby food made in the US.  I&#039;m wondering where the ingredients came from.  But the FDA is trying to assure parents that there is no problem, because it is a small amount of melamine and cyanuric acid.  Hmm, sounds familiar, doesn&#039;t it.  And I still miss our cat!  Here is the link.  I hope it works.  http://www.mail.com/Article.aspx?articlepath=APNews\Health\20081127\Infant-Formula.xml&amp;cat=health&amp;subcat=&amp;pageid=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would not be so sure.  On mail.com there is an article about melamine in baby formula here, and it is baby food made in the US.  I&#8217;m wondering where the ingredients came from.  But the FDA is trying to assure parents that there is no problem, because it is a small amount of melamine and cyanuric acid.  Hmm, sounds familiar, doesn&#8217;t it.  And I still miss our cat!  Here is the link.  I hope it works.  <a href="http://www.mail.com/Article.aspx?articlepath=APNews" rel="nofollow">http://www.mail.com/Article.as.....ath=APNews</a>\Health\20081127\Infant-Formula.xml&amp;cat=health&amp;subcat=&amp;pageid=1</p>
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		<title>By: Carol V</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jAyjhDKXCLVYLbcOKubCkE96KO8AD94E4Q400
From AP:
&quot;FDA to detain food shipments from China&quot;
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&quot;The melamine scandal is now weeks old, but FDA officials said it has taken that long to comply with legal requirements that detention orders be scrupulously backed by evidence. A national poll released earlier this week by Consumers Union found that the public wants foreign food-producing facilities inspected as frequently as domestic ones: about once a month. The FDA has nowhere near the number of inspectors to fulfill that desire, and instead mainly relies on U.S. food companies to require that their foreign supplier maintain high standards. &quot;</description>
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From AP:<br />
&#8220;FDA to detain food shipments from China&#8221;<br />
snip<br />
&#8220;The melamine scandal is now weeks old, but FDA officials said it has taken that long to comply with legal requirements that detention orders be scrupulously backed by evidence. A national poll released earlier this week by Consumers Union found that the public wants foreign food-producing facilities inspected as frequently as domestic ones: about once a month. The FDA has nowhere near the number of inspectors to fulfill that desire, and instead mainly relies on U.S. food companies to require that their foreign supplier maintain high standards. &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 08:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>China&#039;s contaminated food scandal widens

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/10/31/asia/01china-update.php

Latest Fonterra melamine scare overplayed

http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/latest-fonterra-melamine-scare-overplayed-37151

&quot;It’s now accepted that melamine has entered the food chain in China, through pesticides, fertiliser and even animal feed. Recent months have turned up melamine in biscuits, eggs and fish&quot;.

We import most of our apple juice, apples and garlic from China.
It is in their fertilizers and pesticides. Babies drink apple juice - eat apple sauce. Who is testing that for melamine? 

We import tons of flours, glutens, wheys, powdered eggs, powdered milk, used as ingredients in US foods and supplements and used in imported processed food and supplements. Protein powders, tofu, rice or soy milks - who is checking that?  Seafood farmed in countries that purchase feed from China, seafood farmed in China, meat fed feed imported from China, animal and fish feed for animals farmed in the US?

The FDA has been testing milk products in Asian markets in the US.
And milk products imported from China. 

And the FDA has set a limit on allowable melamine in products, but what happens when it accumulates or kidneys are exposed repeatly?

http://nqr.farmonline.com.au/news/nationalrural/horticulture/flowers/melamine-scare-in-chinese-vegetable-imports/1329082.aspx

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/HKG120043.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China&#8217;s contaminated food scandal widens</p>
<p><a href="http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/10/31/asia/01china-update.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.iht.com/articles/20.....update.php</a></p>
<p>Latest Fonterra melamine scare overplayed</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/latest-fonterra-melamine-scare-overplayed-37151" rel="nofollow">http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/l.....ayed-37151</a></p>
<p>&#8220;It’s now accepted that melamine has entered the food chain in China, through pesticides, fertiliser and even animal feed. Recent months have turned up melamine in biscuits, eggs and fish&#8221;.</p>
<p>We import most of our apple juice, apples and garlic from China.<br />
It is in their fertilizers and pesticides. Babies drink apple juice - eat apple sauce. Who is testing that for melamine? </p>
<p>We import tons of flours, glutens, wheys, powdered eggs, powdered milk, used as ingredients in US foods and supplements and used in imported processed food and supplements. Protein powders, tofu, rice or soy milks - who is checking that?  Seafood farmed in countries that purchase feed from China, seafood farmed in China, meat fed feed imported from China, animal and fish feed for animals farmed in the US?</p>
<p>The FDA has been testing milk products in Asian markets in the US.<br />
And milk products imported from China. </p>
<p>And the FDA has set a limit on allowable melamine in products, but what happens when it accumulates or kidneys are exposed repeatly?</p>
<p><a href="http://nqr.farmonline.com.au/news/nationalrural/horticulture/flowers/melamine-scare-in-chinese-vegetable-imports/1329082.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://nqr.farmonline.com.au/n.....29082.aspx</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/HKG120043.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.alertnet.org/thenew.....120043.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Carol V</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the link for the CBC Doc Zone... Pet Food: A Dog&#039;s Breakfast ...I found it on Susan Thixton&#039;s site...while we are on the subject of melamine...and more...

http://www.viddler.com/explore/jennifergoodwin/videos/4/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the link for the CBC Doc Zone&#8230; Pet Food: A Dog&#8217;s Breakfast &#8230;I found it on Susan Thixton&#8217;s site&#8230;while we are on the subject of melamine&#8230;and more&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.viddler.com/explore/jennifergoodwin/videos/4/" rel="nofollow">http://www.viddler.com/explore...../videos/4/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a list of products recalled in Sri Lanka:

http://www.lankabusinessonline.com/fullstory.php?nid=141250784</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a list of products recalled in Sri Lanka:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lankabusinessonline.com/fullstory.php?nid=141250784" rel="nofollow">http://www.lankabusinessonline.....=141250784</a></p>
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		<title>By: Annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The FDA website is checking products from China that contain milk. 

Whey is a milk product that is used in processed food, protein and health food and sports supplements. It is loosely traded all over the world. Who is checking the products containing whey?

We know melamine is in animal feed now. We import fish and shrimp from Asia including China and Thailand. Who is checking the fish for melamine?

During the Pet Food Recall we learned that rice and wheat protein was actually flour adulterated with melamine to look like those products.

So we know flour from China is sometimes adulterated with melamine.
Who is checking the infinite supply of noodles, rice stick and other flour based products sold both in Asian and regular grocery stores and served in all Asian restaurants?

If melamine is used to boost protein levels in grain products, is soy contaminated too? Where is soy powder and soy milk coming from?
Rice powder and rice milk? Who is testing Rice baby cereal?

So  farmed seafood or meat fed animal feed - anything made with grain flours, whey or milk products sourced from China should be checked for melamine. Not just products made in China. 

The FDA is not doing enough by looking just at milk products made in China. China imports tons of whey, flours, and feeds, all over the world, and all resulting products should now be suspect.

Contact John F. Sheehan, J.D. at (301)436-2367 FAX: 301 436-2632.or Benson M. Silverman, M.D. (301)436-1459 at the FDA

Tell them to test seafood that could have been fed feed imported from China. Not just seafood from China, but all the countries that buy their feed.

Tell them to test all flour products (soy, rice, wheat) that could have sourced ingredients from China. Not just products made in China, like noodles or crackers, but from any country that may have sourced from China.

Tell them to test all supplements and other products containing Whey.
Whey is heavily sourced from China and is in numerous food and supplement products made all over the world and here in the US. You can buy it by the ton on the internet. Companies buy from the cheapest source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The FDA website is checking products from China that contain milk. </p>
<p>Whey is a milk product that is used in processed food, protein and health food and sports supplements. It is loosely traded all over the world. Who is checking the products containing whey?</p>
<p>We know melamine is in animal feed now. We import fish and shrimp from Asia including China and Thailand. Who is checking the fish for melamine?</p>
<p>During the Pet Food Recall we learned that rice and wheat protein was actually flour adulterated with melamine to look like those products.</p>
<p>So we know flour from China is sometimes adulterated with melamine.<br />
Who is checking the infinite supply of noodles, rice stick and other flour based products sold both in Asian and regular grocery stores and served in all Asian restaurants?</p>
<p>If melamine is used to boost protein levels in grain products, is soy contaminated too? Where is soy powder and soy milk coming from?<br />
Rice powder and rice milk? Who is testing Rice baby cereal?</p>
<p>So  farmed seafood or meat fed animal feed - anything made with grain flours, whey or milk products sourced from China should be checked for melamine. Not just products made in China. </p>
<p>The FDA is not doing enough by looking just at milk products made in China. China imports tons of whey, flours, and feeds, all over the world, and all resulting products should now be suspect.</p>
<p>Contact John F. Sheehan, J.D. at (301)436-2367 FAX: 301 436-2632.or Benson M. Silverman, M.D. (301)436-1459 at the FDA</p>
<p>Tell them to test seafood that could have been fed feed imported from China. Not just seafood from China, but all the countries that buy their feed.</p>
<p>Tell them to test all flour products (soy, rice, wheat) that could have sourced ingredients from China. Not just products made in China, like noodles or crackers, but from any country that may have sourced from China.</p>
<p>Tell them to test all supplements and other products containing Whey.<br />
Whey is heavily sourced from China and is in numerous food and supplement products made all over the world and here in the US. You can buy it by the ton on the internet. Companies buy from the cheapest source.</p>
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		<title>By: C.L.H</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.L.H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The above New York Times article stated that they may start testing vegetables.  The only reason I can think that they would do that is that melamine slag has been thrown into fertilizers also. Cheap nitrogen for depleted soil. I wonder if massive amounts of melamine slag in fertilizers can wind up in plant tissues? Then it&#039;s in the crops, the feed, the meat, the eggs, the milk, pretty much everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The above New York Times article stated that they may start testing vegetables.  The only reason I can think that they would do that is that melamine slag has been thrown into fertilizers also. Cheap nitrogen for depleted soil. I wonder if massive amounts of melamine slag in fertilizers can wind up in plant tissues? Then it&#8217;s in the crops, the feed, the meat, the eggs, the milk, pretty much everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read an article a few days ago, I believe it was in the New York Times, about a huge increase in kidney stones in young people. Doctors are at a loss to explain the 200 to 300% increase in cases but speculate that they may be related to salt in junk food …. hmmm I have another idea!

Comment by Doug Goodale — October 31, 2008 @ 7:30 pm 


I agree!!!  I was thinking the same thing, when I read it.  Why, oh why can&#039;t they seem to put 2+2 together?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read an article a few days ago, I believe it was in the New York Times, about a huge increase in kidney stones in young people. Doctors are at a loss to explain the 200 to 300% increase in cases but speculate that they may be related to salt in junk food …. hmmm I have another idea!</p>
<p>Comment by Doug Goodale — October 31, 2008 @ 7:30 pm </p>
<p>I agree!!!  I was thinking the same thing, when I read it.  Why, oh why can&#8217;t they seem to put 2+2 together?</p>
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		<title>By: Carol V</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 18:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, if my kitty Smudge could talk I am sure she would join in with all the others that were the precursor of all this now and say a big &quot;I TOLD YOU SO&quot;....I was surprised at the reaction of our government officials them (actually the lack of reaction) and even more surprised now...I still have to go blog and website searching to find out anything about this...when will it be important enough to make the mainstream media... more news coverage about things far less important stay in the headlines for weeks...It is our food supply for gawd&#039;s sake! oh and our medicine supply to for most of the meds now a days....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, if my kitty Smudge could talk I am sure she would join in with all the others that were the precursor of all this now and say a big &#8220;I TOLD YOU SO&#8221;&#8230;.I was surprised at the reaction of our government officials them (actually the lack of reaction) and even more surprised now&#8230;I still have to go blog and website searching to find out anything about this&#8230;when will it be important enough to make the mainstream media&#8230; more news coverage about things far less important stay in the headlines for weeks&#8230;It is our food supply for gawd&#8217;s sake! oh and our medicine supply to for most of the meds now a days&#8230;.</p>
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