Comments on: What’s really behind forced spay/neuter laws? http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/08/18/winograd-and-msn/ The Web blog of the Pet Connection, a pet-care feature syndicated internationally by Universal Press. Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:36:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Nadine L. http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/08/18/winograd-and-msn/#comment-339094 Nadine L. Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:05:08 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=2764#comment-339094 "And there are plenty out there willing to swallow whatever is being sold" ... My husband often refers to these kinds, quoting from a book he'd read, as "St. Apathy and The Monks of Indifference." “And there are plenty out there willing to swallow whatever is being sold” …

My husband often refers to these kinds, quoting from a book he’d read, as “St. Apathy and The Monks of Indifference.”

]]> By: slt http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/08/18/winograd-and-msn/#comment-339078 slt Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:17:41 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=2764#comment-339078 Yes, I believe I can imagine that... Yes, I believe I can imagine that…

]]> By: The OTHER Pat http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/08/18/winograd-and-msn/#comment-339073 The OTHER Pat Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:53:39 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=2764#comment-339073 I tried to make a point similar to that to my Parent Club once. Boy, you should have seen the fireworks THAT suggestion caused! I tried to make a point similar to that to my Parent Club once. Boy, you should have seen the fireworks THAT suggestion caused!

]]> By: slt http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/08/18/winograd-and-msn/#comment-339072 slt Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:51:08 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=2764#comment-339072 If the AKC member clubs had the courage to vote w/their feet, AKC might start paying attention. I doubt we'll ever see that day come though. If the AKC member clubs had the courage to vote w/their feet, AKC might start paying attention. I doubt we’ll ever see that day come though.

]]> By: Gina Spadafori http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/08/18/winograd-and-msn/#comment-339071 Gina Spadafori Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:31:45 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=2764#comment-339071 Janeen, I don't think that subtlety is widely understood. Most people probably think they become "members" when they register a dog. In any case ... I haven't been able to track the Senate floor much today, but they're in recess until 2 p.m. now and I don't think (but I'm not sure) the bill came up this morning. Janeen, I don’t think that subtlety is widely understood. Most people probably think they become “members” when they register a dog.

In any case … I haven’t been able to track the Senate floor much today, but they’re in recess until 2 p.m. now and I don’t think (but I’m not sure) the bill came up this morning.

]]> By: Janeen http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/08/18/winograd-and-msn/#comment-339070 Janeen Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:13:07 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=2764#comment-339070 None of us are "members" of AKC. Only clubs (and only approved clubs at that) can be members of AKC. Individuals are not represented - and it becomes more and more clear that the AKC as an entity has little or no desire to represent the real desires of its member clubs or their members with respect to legislation. Some days I begin to think that they're just a less ugly sister of HSUS. Both groups sse animals to pander for money and to hell with the long-term consequences. None of us are “members” of AKC. Only clubs (and only approved clubs at that) can be members of AKC. Individuals are not represented - and it becomes more and more clear that the AKC as an entity has little or no desire to represent the real desires of its member clubs or their members with respect to legislation.

Some days I begin to think that they’re just a less ugly sister of HSUS. Both groups sse animals to pander for money and to hell with the long-term consequences.

]]> By: JenniferJ http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/08/18/winograd-and-msn/#comment-339027 JenniferJ Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:09:47 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=2764#comment-339027 The problem is that AKC has spent alot of time money and energy convincing politicians that they do speak for the dog fancy, and some of the people who exhibit and show AKC believe it. I wrote back to some one this AM who was chiding me for continuing to fight for the sake of fighting since AKC now says that the new amendments make it OK. The ARs are not the only ones serving kool-aid. And there a re plenty out there willing to swallow whatever is being sold. The problem is that AKC has spent alot of time money and energy convincing politicians that they do speak for the dog fancy, and some of the people who exhibit and show AKC believe it. I wrote back to some one this AM who was chiding me for continuing to fight for the sake of fighting since AKC now says that the new amendments make it OK.

The ARs are not the only ones serving kool-aid. And there a re plenty out there willing to swallow whatever is being sold.

]]> By: Caveat http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/08/18/winograd-and-msn/#comment-339001 Caveat Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:16:50 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=2764#comment-339001 Just tell 'em you're not a member of the AKC and they don't speak for you. Just tell ‘em you’re not a member of the AKC and they don’t speak for you.

]]> By: JenniferJ http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/08/18/winograd-and-msn/#comment-338840 JenniferJ Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:35:53 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=2764#comment-338840 the bill has been passed on so far today. It needs constant, aggressive and vociferous opposition from now till it is either passed, dead or pulled. I suggest faxing, calling an e-mailing daily. And get friends neighbors and relatives in on it too. The fact that it was skipped so far today by request of Padilla means they don't have the votes. Yet. But that happened in the Assembly too until Barker and Nunez ganged up to get the abstaining democrats to vote it through. i am afraid that if we do not keep up the pressure, some may yield to pressure from supporters. And I have been hearing from some aids at various offices that they thought AKC's change of position meant we all were Okay with it too now. When you call e-mail or write, remind the good senators that YOU LIVE in California that you VOTE here and that the AKC BoD does neither of these things and certainly has not changed your position or the position of the California based organization you belong to etc.. the bill has been passed on so far today. It needs constant, aggressive and vociferous opposition from now till it is either passed, dead or pulled. I suggest faxing, calling an e-mailing daily. And get friends neighbors and relatives in on it too.

The fact that it was skipped so far today by request of Padilla means they don’t have the votes. Yet. But that happened in the Assembly too until Barker and Nunez ganged up to get the abstaining democrats to vote it through.

i am afraid that if we do not keep up the pressure, some may yield to pressure from supporters. And I have been hearing from some aids at various offices that they thought AKC’s change of position meant we all were Okay with it too now.

When you call e-mail or write, remind the good senators that YOU LIVE in California that you VOTE here and that the AKC BoD does neither of these things and certainly has not changed your position or the position of the California based organization you belong to etc..

]]> By: Christie Keith http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/08/18/winograd-and-msn/#comment-338839 Christie Keith Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:33:16 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/?p=2764#comment-338839 I've updated again... Gina says it looks like the vote won't happen today, but she's not sure yet. I’ve updated again… Gina says it looks like the vote won’t happen today, but she’s not sure yet.

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