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	<title>Comments on: The Gold Rush is on as Helmsley billions come into play &#8230; maybe</title>
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		<title>By: perkysmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>perkysmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see Leona&#039;s money go to:
1) free vet care vouchers for middle/lower income people and seniors
2) political lobbying for pet food manufacturing reform and humane practices (several million ought to buy off a government official or two)
3) creation of more no kill shelters
4) research into canine diseases
Unfortunately, Leona, ticked off many people in her lifetime; she was rather unkind to people.   There might still be a battle in court over the dough. Let&#039;s see if the money really will go to help dogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see Leona&#8217;s money go to:<br />
1) free vet care vouchers for middle/lower income people and seniors<br />
2) political lobbying for pet food manufacturing reform and humane practices (several million ought to buy off a government official or two)<br />
3) creation of more no kill shelters<br />
4) research into canine diseases<br />
Unfortunately, Leona, ticked off many people in her lifetime; she was rather unkind to people.   There might still be a battle in court over the dough. Let&#8217;s see if the money really will go to help dogs.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donna, how cool is that? Happy Birthday!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donna, how cool is that? Happy Birthday!!</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gah - I certainly appreciate the most encouraging vote of confidence and mention of BR&#039;s projects. Thank you. And it&#039;s my birthday, so, thank you twice.

Gina, you said it as no one else has yet: Change has to come from caring about the pet owners as much as their pets. We all could stand for some improvement there. Unfortunately it&#039;s not something you can buy, although wouldn&#039;t it be fun to go shopping for that attitude shift? 

I hate to see veterinarian resistance used as an excuse to avoid bringing free and low-cost services to pet owners. This is america, the land of free enterprise... Let the vets find a way to one-up your program. Or better yet, win them over. If we can&#039;t get buy-in from the vets, then how can we ever expect to get it from the pet owners? 

On the same hand, we have to care about the types of pets other people have, even the ones that don&#039;t look or act like dogs we&#039;d want to own. Me -- I&#039;ve got a lot of work to do on the chihuahua angle. They smell my fear - LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gah - I certainly appreciate the most encouraging vote of confidence and mention of BR&#8217;s projects. Thank you. And it&#8217;s my birthday, so, thank you twice.</p>
<p>Gina, you said it as no one else has yet: Change has to come from caring about the pet owners as much as their pets. We all could stand for some improvement there. Unfortunately it&#8217;s not something you can buy, although wouldn&#8217;t it be fun to go shopping for that attitude shift? </p>
<p>I hate to see veterinarian resistance used as an excuse to avoid bringing free and low-cost services to pet owners. This is america, the land of free enterprise&#8230; Let the vets find a way to one-up your program. Or better yet, win them over. If we can&#8217;t get buy-in from the vets, then how can we ever expect to get it from the pet owners? </p>
<p>On the same hand, we have to care about the types of pets other people have, even the ones that don&#8217;t look or act like dogs we&#8217;d want to own. Me &#8212; I&#8217;ve got a lot of work to do on the chihuahua angle. They smell my fear - LOL</p>
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		<title>By: nancy freedman-smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>nancy freedman-smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 09:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Gina!....the link isn&#039;t working. here it is...
http://mainepets.mainetoday.com/blogentry.html?id=3829
Bad Rap rocks.  Too bad we can&#039;t vote where the money goes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Gina!&#8230;.the link isn&#8217;t working. here it is&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://mainepets.mainetoday.com/blogentry.html?id=3829" rel="nofollow">http://mainepets.mainetoday.co.....ml?id=3829</a><br />
Bad Rap rocks.  Too bad we can&#8217;t vote where the money goes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: EmilyS</title>
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		<dc:creator>EmilyS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gina, I&#039;d be happy to make a private side bet with you on what percentage of the Helmsley money goes to animals.

This kind of thing is unprecedented.  It&#039;s NOT like the Gate foundation.. that&#039;s Gates&#039; money and the Gates&#039; personal involvement.  Their money, their committment, their priorities (which have changed quite a bit, as is their right of course)

THIS case is the money of a dead person who left vague instructions.  Without her living presence to compel compliance, the &quot;world&quot; will not allow billions of dollars to go to animal charities.  Her will left wiggle room.

YOU and other animal bloggers and the small innovative  groups will have no say in what happens to the money.  The courts will decide.  

Get real.

Ill be very very happy if ANY small percentage goes to real animal groups.  That would not mean PETA or HSUS or ASPCA, who of course would love to build new facilities with all the $$$$$$$</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gina, I&#8217;d be happy to make a private side bet with you on what percentage of the Helmsley money goes to animals.</p>
<p>This kind of thing is unprecedented.  It&#8217;s NOT like the Gate foundation.. that&#8217;s Gates&#8217; money and the Gates&#8217; personal involvement.  Their money, their committment, their priorities (which have changed quite a bit, as is their right of course)</p>
<p>THIS case is the money of a dead person who left vague instructions.  Without her living presence to compel compliance, the &#8220;world&#8221; will not allow billions of dollars to go to animal charities.  Her will left wiggle room.</p>
<p>YOU and other animal bloggers and the small innovative  groups will have no say in what happens to the money.  The courts will decide.  </p>
<p>Get real.</p>
<p>Ill be very very happy if ANY small percentage goes to real animal groups.  That would not mean PETA or HSUS or ASPCA, who of course would love to build new facilities with all the $$$$$$$</p>
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		<title>By: H. Houlahan</title>
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		<dc:creator>H. Houlahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t it be nice if someone with the power to bequest such a staggering sum had some more concrete directives attached than &quot;help dogs?&quot;

Honestly, how self-indulgent could one be, to leave such a great looming lump of *thing* in one&#039;s wake, without a carefully thought-out plan for implementing it?

Of course, a real philanthropist (or philcynopist?) would have been developing those programs and putting forward the lucre in her lifetime.

Bill Gates comes to mind.  He knows *exactly* where he wants his money to go, how it&#039;s to be spent, and he sees to it that it happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be nice if someone with the power to bequest such a staggering sum had some more concrete directives attached than &#8220;help dogs?&#8221;</p>
<p>Honestly, how self-indulgent could one be, to leave such a great looming lump of *thing* in one&#8217;s wake, without a carefully thought-out plan for implementing it?</p>
<p>Of course, a real philanthropist (or philcynopist?) would have been developing those programs and putting forward the lucre in her lifetime.</p>
<p>Bill Gates comes to mind.  He knows *exactly* where he wants his money to go, how it&#8217;s to be spent, and he sees to it that it happens.</p>
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		<title>By: straybaby</title>
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		<dc:creator>straybaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NYC is pretty dog/animal friendly and is also working towards no-kill. The head of the Mayor&#039;s Alliance is also a lawyer. If those involved in the decision wanted, they have plenty of local resources for advice/education. Heck, even if they only consulted with the ASPCA, I don&#039;t think it would be horrible. After all, they partnered with Bad Rap and others on the Vick dogs with good results. I think their mindset would be a huge positive over say .   . .  PETA, etc. They are also working nationally along with local, so I think that adds a decent perspective comparatively. I don&#039;t always agree with them, but they are better than other options, imo. And isn&#039;t NW still upstate?

I do think they may revive the Human charities part to an extent, but hey, ya never know (as we say in NY!)! Maybe she ends up becoming the big benefactor from the sky the dogs need  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NYC is pretty dog/animal friendly and is also working towards no-kill. The head of the Mayor&#8217;s Alliance is also a lawyer. If those involved in the decision wanted, they have plenty of local resources for advice/education. Heck, even if they only consulted with the ASPCA, I don&#8217;t think it would be horrible. After all, they partnered with Bad Rap and others on the Vick dogs with good results. I think their mindset would be a huge positive over say .   . .  PETA, etc. They are also working nationally along with local, so I think that adds a decent perspective comparatively. I don&#8217;t always agree with them, but they are better than other options, imo. And isn&#8217;t NW still upstate?</p>
<p>I do think they may revive the Human charities part to an extent, but hey, ya never know (as we say in NY!)! Maybe she ends up becoming the big benefactor from the sky the dogs need  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Emily, aren&#039;t you just a bright little ray of sunshine? 

You have absolutely no idea what the chance of any money going to innovative programs will be ... nor do I. 

But I will guarantee you that the minute everyone decides nothing will ever change is the minute it&#039;s a certainty that nothing ever will. 

I have seen a lot of things change in my 50 years, some of them for the better. So anything is possible. If I didn&#039;t believe it, well, I sure wouldn&#039;t be doing the work I do. Why bother? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Emily, aren&#8217;t you just a bright little ray of sunshine? </p>
<p>You have absolutely no idea what the chance of any money going to innovative programs will be &#8230; nor do I. </p>
<p>But I will guarantee you that the minute everyone decides nothing will ever change is the minute it&#8217;s a certainty that nothing ever will. </p>
<p>I have seen a lot of things change in my 50 years, some of them for the better. So anything is possible. If I didn&#8217;t believe it, well, I sure wouldn&#8217;t be doing the work I do. Why bother?</p>
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		<title>By: EmilyS</title>
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		<dc:creator>EmilyS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, I&#039;ll bet my life that the money will be either dispensed to HSUS/ASPCA/PETA/Best Friends because of their public profile and ability to self-promote, or a new organization (with paid advisors from these orgs) modeled after those large organizations.  Or, as is MOST likely:   reduced to a fraction (some millions) of the amount with the rest going to large national charities like the Red Cross, United Way, etc.

The chances of so much money going to small innovative programs is just zero.  And any such small program be definition would no longer be small... and no longer innovative.

Such a huge sum of money is beyond comprehension.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, I&#8217;ll bet my life that the money will be either dispensed to HSUS/ASPCA/PETA/Best Friends because of their public profile and ability to self-promote, or a new organization (with paid advisors from these orgs) modeled after those large organizations.  Or, as is MOST likely:   reduced to a fraction (some millions) of the amount with the rest going to large national charities like the Red Cross, United Way, etc.</p>
<p>The chances of so much money going to small innovative programs is just zero.  And any such small program be definition would no longer be small&#8230; and no longer innovative.</p>
<p>Such a huge sum of money is beyond comprehension.</p>
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		<title>By: straybaby</title>
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		<dc:creator>straybaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I read financing vet schools, I was thinking in terms of scholarships/programs. You could easily have &quot;give back&quot; requirement. 

For instance, our city shelter has a youth program and I would bet some could use more scholarship opportunities to be avaiable:

&quot;Those TLC participants interested in working with animals in a medical capacity assist our veterinary technicians and veterinarians, preparing materials and instruments for surgery and monitoring the health of recovering animals.&quot;

http://www.nycacc.org/tlc.htm

Anyway, it was just a thought :)

Thanks for reposting the Hector video. I need to pass it on to my baseball/football league. The guys will be happy to see the positive news :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I read financing vet schools, I was thinking in terms of scholarships/programs. You could easily have &#8220;give back&#8221; requirement. </p>
<p>For instance, our city shelter has a youth program and I would bet some could use more scholarship opportunities to be avaiable:</p>
<p>&#8220;Those TLC participants interested in working with animals in a medical capacity assist our veterinary technicians and veterinarians, preparing materials and instruments for surgery and monitoring the health of recovering animals.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nycacc.org/tlc.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nycacc.org/tlc.htm</a></p>
<p>Anyway, it was just a thought :)</p>
<p>Thanks for reposting the Hector video. I need to pass it on to my baseball/football league. The guys will be happy to see the positive news :)</p>
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