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	<title>Comments on: Kyrie and the superbug: More on staph in pets</title>
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		<title>By: Micci</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/05/28/kyrie-and-the-superbug-more-on-staph-in-pets/#comment-359897</link>
		<dc:creator>Micci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 03:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dog Merlo was feeling very ill.  We were just getting ready to take him to the vet when blood starting spilling from his elbow, where he has callouses from laying on hard services.  It wouldn't stop.  He had a temp of 106.  They kept him to put him on oral antibiotics and fluids.  I metioned that my young son had a staph infection (MRSA, that was cultured to be resistent to about half of the antibiotics on the list).  I had used medical grade raw honey (manuka honey 16+).  I thought his oozing was similar to my sons and asked them to culture it, but they thought there was no way.  Turns out he did have a culture of both staph and strep (sorry I don't know the strains).  Anyway, my son has not had a recurrence, and I've been dressing Merlos site with a pad with honey spread on it.  He is also on 2 antibiotics, but his wound is looking so much better.  I can't say it is curing him, but seems to not be hurting and he is feeling great.  I keep the cone on him to keep him from licking at it.  The vets keep wondering what the underlying problem might have been for him to get this.  Still don't think it's related to my son's problem.  He does have allergies and a thyroid issue, but I am happy I had the honey on hand.  I would always use it, just as an extra layer of protection!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dog Merlo was feeling very ill.  We were just getting ready to take him to the vet when blood starting spilling from his elbow, where he has callouses from laying on hard services.  It wouldn&#8217;t stop.  He had a temp of 106.  They kept him to put him on oral antibiotics and fluids.  I metioned that my young son had a staph infection (MRSA, that was cultured to be resistent to about half of the antibiotics on the list).  I had used medical grade raw honey (manuka honey 16+).  I thought his oozing was similar to my sons and asked them to culture it, but they thought there was no way.  Turns out he did have a culture of both staph and strep (sorry I don&#8217;t know the strains).  Anyway, my son has not had a recurrence, and I&#8217;ve been dressing Merlos site with a pad with honey spread on it.  He is also on 2 antibiotics, but his wound is looking so much better.  I can&#8217;t say it is curing him, but seems to not be hurting and he is feeling great.  I keep the cone on him to keep him from licking at it.  The vets keep wondering what the underlying problem might have been for him to get this.  Still don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s related to my son&#8217;s problem.  He does have allergies and a thyroid issue, but I am happy I had the honey on hand.  I would always use it, just as an extra layer of protection!</p>
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		<title>By: LauraL</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/05/28/kyrie-and-the-superbug-more-on-staph-in-pets/#comment-282241</link>
		<dc:creator>LauraL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, and I do appreciate that.  But it's always better to have as many options as possible in one's arsenal, especially with MRSI. 

I just hope some med/vet school undertakes a serious study of it soon. I'm betting there just might be something to it, but it's a hard sell to make without substantiated data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, and I do appreciate that.  But it&#8217;s always better to have as many options as possible in one&#8217;s arsenal, especially with MRSI. </p>
<p>I just hope some med/vet school undertakes a serious study of it soon. I&#8217;m betting there just might be something to it, but it&#8217;s a hard sell to make without substantiated data.</p>
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		<title>By: Christie Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/05/28/kyrie-and-the-superbug-more-on-staph-in-pets/#comment-282067</link>
		<dc:creator>Christie Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 21:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LauraL, here is an earlier post with the info I have:

http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/05/02/kyrie-and-the-superbug-round-three/

I certainly don't claim it's a panacea... they far overstated its importance in treating Kyrie on the news report!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LauraL, here is an earlier post with the info I have:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/05/02/kyrie-and-the-superbug-round-three/" rel="nofollow">http://www.petconnection.com/b.....und-three/</a></p>
<p>I certainly don&#8217;t claim it&#8217;s a panacea&#8230; they far overstated its importance in treating Kyrie on the news report!</p>
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		<title>By: LauraL</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/05/28/kyrie-and-the-superbug-more-on-staph-in-pets/#comment-282046</link>
		<dc:creator>LauraL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 20:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really, really interesting. My partner's a vet (we're in NC) and saw her first case of MRSI just this week. 

Christie, could you post a link to any honey research you've found?  I know it's commonly used as a topical antibiotic/antifungal in some other countries - but when I Google it, I get a lot of pretty iffy sites. I'd love to know what sort of medical/vet research is underway. 

Thanks, and congrats on Kyrie's recovery - you both look great on TV!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, really interesting. My partner&#8217;s a vet (we&#8217;re in NC) and saw her first case of MRSI just this week. </p>
<p>Christie, could you post a link to any honey research you&#8217;ve found?  I know it&#8217;s commonly used as a topical antibiotic/antifungal in some other countries - but when I Google it, I get a lot of pretty iffy sites. I&#8217;d love to know what sort of medical/vet research is underway. </p>
<p>Thanks, and congrats on Kyrie&#8217;s recovery - you both look great on TV!</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard J. (Bernie) Starzewski</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/05/28/kyrie-and-the-superbug-more-on-staph-in-pets/#comment-281053</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard J. (Bernie) Starzewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 21:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While Im thinking of it.. What happened to the picture of the little English Setter in the lower right?
Replaced by lop eared bunnies???
Scout is very insulted!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Im thinking of it.. What happened to the picture of the little English Setter in the lower right?<br />
Replaced by lop eared bunnies???<br />
Scout is very insulted!</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard J. (Bernie) Starzewski</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/05/28/kyrie-and-the-superbug-more-on-staph-in-pets/#comment-281050</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard J. (Bernie) Starzewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 21:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, there is no need to go bonkers over this.

To avoid skin infections, keep the dogs clean (as much as possible for dogs anyway) and when infections do occurr don't bother trynig to treat it with pills or shots, use a topical ointment for starters.  Dogs like to lick off this stuff though so you need to either keep them away from it with a neck cone or a bandage of some type.  Medcial honey is fine!  If obviously works but many other types of antiseptic (not antibiotic) topical treatments work too.

The entire reason we have these "super" bugs is that doctors of all sorts have "modernized" their practices to the point of using the last resorts first.  The more we routinely throw antibiotics at the first sign of infection the more likely we are to come across a mutation that will survive it.  Then it spreads and there is your superbug - of your own collective making.

Now a vet might want to use and antibiotic in pill or shot form to prevent the possibility of blood poisoning - thats fine.  But any vet that throws systemic medicines at topical illnesses is an idiot not deserving of their DVM.

Unfortunately, that is not the message that the news crew is going to get from your docs...  They will get the latest hysteria du-jure while they contribute to the problem at will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, there is no need to go bonkers over this.</p>
<p>To avoid skin infections, keep the dogs clean (as much as possible for dogs anyway) and when infections do occurr don&#8217;t bother trynig to treat it with pills or shots, use a topical ointment for starters.  Dogs like to lick off this stuff though so you need to either keep them away from it with a neck cone or a bandage of some type.  Medcial honey is fine!  If obviously works but many other types of antiseptic (not antibiotic) topical treatments work too.</p>
<p>The entire reason we have these &#8220;super&#8221; bugs is that doctors of all sorts have &#8220;modernized&#8221; their practices to the point of using the last resorts first.  The more we routinely throw antibiotics at the first sign of infection the more likely we are to come across a mutation that will survive it.  Then it spreads and there is your superbug - of your own collective making.</p>
<p>Now a vet might want to use and antibiotic in pill or shot form to prevent the possibility of blood poisoning - thats fine.  But any vet that throws systemic medicines at topical illnesses is an idiot not deserving of their DVM.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, that is not the message that the news crew is going to get from your docs&#8230;  They will get the latest hysteria du-jure while they contribute to the problem at will.</p>
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		<title>By: Joy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 12:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Medical grade" honey?  Does that mean it's researched and controlled by FDA approved commercial interests?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Medical grade&#8221; honey?  Does that mean it&#8217;s researched and controlled by FDA approved commercial interests?</p>
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		<title>By: Christie Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/05/28/kyrie-and-the-superbug-more-on-staph-in-pets/#comment-279417</link>
		<dc:creator>Christie Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 17:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm a huge colloidal silver skeptic. When it was in its first flush of newness, I tried it, and never saw the slightest benefit on my own skin rashes or irritations, nor my dogs'. I was assured every time it failed that I was using the wrong potency, the wrong method of prep, the wrong product, etc, but everything I tried in response to these "corrections" was equally ineffective. My research into the medical literature on colloidal silver tells me it has a minor anti-microbial effect, as do thousands of substances including many herbs, essential oils, teas, tisanes, extracts, salves, and ointments -- a number of which I did try on Kyrie, to no avail.

Grapefruit seed extract has a very checkered research profile. When you look only at completely pure GSE, it has minimal anti-microbial action. 

Bottom line for me on these two things is that there's nothing "holistic" about them, as they're just another form of anti-microbial, and these two don't have much in the way of efficacy data to back them up.

I did use, as I mentioned here and in the article, medical grade honey. It does have good research demonstrating efficacy not just as an anti-microbial in general, but specifically against resistant strains of staph, even hospital strains, which are much more difficult to combat. And it worked on stopping a recurrence of Kyrie's infection after her third course of antibiotics.

My recommendation, which is of course subject to change as I get new information, is to culture the minute you see anything to culture, use an oral antibiotic as indicated by the culture and sensitivity testing, and use medical grade honey topically. Then do a follow-up culture to confirm the organism is eradicated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a huge colloidal silver skeptic. When it was in its first flush of newness, I tried it, and never saw the slightest benefit on my own skin rashes or irritations, nor my dogs&#8217;. I was assured every time it failed that I was using the wrong potency, the wrong method of prep, the wrong product, etc, but everything I tried in response to these &#8220;corrections&#8221; was equally ineffective. My research into the medical literature on colloidal silver tells me it has a minor anti-microbial effect, as do thousands of substances including many herbs, essential oils, teas, tisanes, extracts, salves, and ointments &#8212; a number of which I did try on Kyrie, to no avail.</p>
<p>Grapefruit seed extract has a very checkered research profile. When you look only at completely pure GSE, it has minimal anti-microbial action. </p>
<p>Bottom line for me on these two things is that there&#8217;s nothing &#8220;holistic&#8221; about them, as they&#8217;re just another form of anti-microbial, and these two don&#8217;t have much in the way of efficacy data to back them up.</p>
<p>I did use, as I mentioned here and in the article, medical grade honey. It does have good research demonstrating efficacy not just as an anti-microbial in general, but specifically against resistant strains of staph, even hospital strains, which are much more difficult to combat. And it worked on stopping a recurrence of Kyrie&#8217;s infection after her third course of antibiotics.</p>
<p>My recommendation, which is of course subject to change as I get new information, is to culture the minute you see anything to culture, use an oral antibiotic as indicated by the culture and sensitivity testing, and use medical grade honey topically. Then do a follow-up culture to confirm the organism is eradicated.</p>
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		<title>By: Dog Lover</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/05/28/kyrie-and-the-superbug-more-on-staph-in-pets/#comment-279389</link>
		<dc:creator>Dog Lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 17:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christie,

I left this comment on your SFGate article.  Since you dont always read the comments there, thought I would leave it here as well.

What about using collodial silver or Grapefruit extract?  Bacteria do not become resistant to these.  In your internet research has anyone used these for MRSI or MRSA infections?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christie,</p>
<p>I left this comment on your SFGate article.  Since you dont always read the comments there, thought I would leave it here as well.</p>
<p>What about using collodial silver or Grapefruit extract?  Bacteria do not become resistant to these.  In your internet research has anyone used these for MRSI or MRSA infections?</p>
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		<title>By: Christie Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/05/28/kyrie-and-the-superbug-more-on-staph-in-pets/#comment-279294</link>
		<dc:creator>Christie Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 15:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheri:

These dogs do not have MRSA. They have a different bacteria that does not affect humans, MRSI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheri:</p>
<p>These dogs do not have MRSA. They have a different bacteria that does not affect humans, MRSI.</p>
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