Comments on: Kyrie and the Superbug, round three — with a surprise

By: Colorado Transplant

Colorado Transplant — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 01:13:15 +0000

Just want to add a side note: a human dermatologist told me—that the wound likes a covering even though we would think it best to have the wound exposed to air.

Just a thought, particularly since Christie has had success with the medi-honey bandages that did indeed cover the wound.

By: Suzanne

Suzanne — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 00:03:18 +0000

Christie thanks for your reply. I understand where you’re coming from on Manuka honey. I have some from a reputable website and my cat has EGC (eosinophilic granuloma complex) a TOUGH case of it (luckily he was never vaxxed, eats fresh raw and is under control by a TCM vet) and he had awful wounds that i applied Manuka honey to and it seemed to produce healing in them, albeit EGC plaques are entirely different from staph infections. He had one non healing lesion excised surgically and healing was going very well until vet thinks he had a poss. reaction to the suture site and guess what? Lesion back (this yr has been a nightmare) we are going to try topical tacrolimus (protopic) as i don’t want to at this point go the oral cyclosporine route but if that doesn’t work i might try the honey again, am wondering if i should try the bandages you are, where do you obtain them? Thanks for your time :)

By: Colorado Transplant

Colorado Transplant — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 14:56:52 +0000

Angela, I pray the medi-honey works.

I am glad you are going to try it to stop your dog’s suffering. Skin application seems best. It should be soothing.

Often the dogs and cats hide their pain.

That staff infection is TOUGH!!!!! We have to outsmart all the superbugs—if we can.

By: Angela

Angela — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 13:25:05 +0000

Christine. No right now she is not seeing a dermatologist. We do not have one in our area. We were lucky enough to have one visiting in the area while he was giving a lecture in the Boston area. he was the one who noticed right away that Abby probably had staff and the cultures that he had my vet order prooved it. I will talk to her about changing Abbys antibiotics, as the baytril is probably no longer working. This may have been caused by her being off of it for two days when she ran out over the holiday weekend and the vet wanted to see her again before giving her more. the vet thought she was looking better and only increased the dosage.

By: Christie Keith

Christie Keith — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 01:45:15 +0000

Suzanne, Medi-honey is a Manuka honey. But not all Manuka honey is Medi-honey. I went with this because the bandages seemed like a very good way to use the honey, cleaner and easier to use, and also because, since the product is FDA approved, I knew it would be standardized and almost certainly contain exactly what it said it did, whereas I feel no such confidence when buying products at the local health food store.

And let me clarify, if a supplement company that I already trust made a Manuka honey, I’d trust that product. But none of the companies I already know and rely on does make such a product, so I felt far more comfortable with this one.

By: Christie Keith

Christie Keith — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 01:42:43 +0000

Angela, one of the things I’ve learned is that this strain of bacteria develops resistance to the class of drugs to which Baytril belongs VERY EASILY, so much so that many specialists are now suggesting to not even use it, no matter what the culture and sensitivity testing indicates about it.

I’d strongly recommend you add the honey (Kyrie never tried to remove her bandage, it was quite secure and my understanding is that medical grade honey tastes horrible, although I admit I didn’t test that out personally) to your treatment protocol, but I would also suggest trying another class of antibiotic.

Is she being treated by a dermatologist? If not, consider that. Your dog really wouldn’t be getting worse, and getting MORE lesions, if the drug were effective.

By: Angela

Angela — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 00:45:19 +0000

I ordered the MediHoney for Abby. I’ll let you know how it works for her. I’m sure it will be a few days before I get it.

By: Angela

Angela — Sat, 31 May 2008 23:40:45 +0000

I only breezed thru your article. I am glad that your dof isdoing much better. right now, my dog Abby is going thru the exact same thing. She currently is on baytril and luckily is tolerating it well. She was starting to appear like she may be getting better, but we have now noticed new spots on her behind her tale and although a few spots seem to look much better, she has others that look worse and the vet has increased her dosage of the batril. She now takes 4 tablets two times a day. This is her third week. Now the vet wants to do a biopsy on her. Tehy already did a culture which is why they put her on the baytril. She has her biopsy on tuesday, but I really do not know what good it will do. Abby seems heathy and does not seem to be in pain, but really is bothered and constantly licks at her wounds which i am sure does not help. You said the medgrade honey worked right away. How did you apply it and did Kyrie lick at it or try removing the dressings. I would want the dressings to stay on her and may keep her on the baytril while using the honey. Also how long did it take you to get it? Can you get it locally in a health store or do you have to get it online? I really want Abby to get better. Her wounds look horrible and it is eating away at her skin. If you can please email me. Thanks, I hope this will work for Abby, like it has for Kyrie.

By: Suzanne Keener

Suzanne Keener — Fri, 30 May 2008 19:55:58 +0000

Christie, i’m so glad Kyrie is doing better, and prayers that she continues to! when i saw a cross post of your plight on a yahoo list, first thing i thought of was honey! I have the well-touted Manuka honey and i see it is different than the one that you used on Kyrie-i wonder your thoughts on different modes of honey? Thanks!

By: dogzilla

dogzilla — Wed, 28 May 2008 21:05:07 +0000

I had a similar (if less dramatic) experience in trying to get my Golden Retriever’s chronic pyoderma under control. At first I took him to a dermatology vet, who prescribed antibiotics and peroxide-based shampoo treatments. That worked great… for 6 weeks. Then 3 weeks after we finished the antibiotics, the pyoderma came back with a vengeance.

I really didn’t want to put him back on antibiotics, so I took him to my holistic vet. She told me that moisture exacerbates bacterial problems, so even plain peroxide was out (since it’s water-based). Instead, I treated the area daily with Listerine (original formula) and Gold Bond medicated powder. Problem solved!