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	<title>Comments on: The benefits of pets, reason No. 1,305,057</title>
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		<title>By: H. Houlahan</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/04/25/the-benefits-of-pets-reason-no-1305057/comment-page-1/#comment-255702</link>
		<dc:creator>H. Houlahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you ought to give your vegan neighbors some eggs &quot;for hatching out.&quot;

&quot;Pleeeeze!  Save the babies!&quot;

If they get any chicks, you can name them all Jesus Christ.

Okay, I &quot;get&quot; the idea of abstaining from animal products.  It&#039;s really a sort of modern-day quest for spiritual purity -- an attempt to abstract oneself from the Way of All Flesh.

But a person&#039;s principles would be less susceptible to mockery from us unwashed savages if said person also possessed any sort of grasp of basic biological principles.

This applies to Republican Presidents and Presidential candidates who deny the organizing principle of all biological science as well as vegans who believe in virgin chicken birth, so I&#039;m an equal-opportunity savage.

Good luck with the chooks.  We are closing on our farm in a couple of weeks; I hope to have chicks in shortly thereafter.  It&#039;s hard enough to hold off on gardening because of the move.  We get a significant portion of our food from it, and not planting feels like courting starvation.  I&#039;ve covered the beds at our current house with black plastic to smother weeds and to look tidy for buyers.  I have to stifle the urge to show up at the new place with a rototiller while the sellers gape at me from their mound of cardboard boxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you ought to give your vegan neighbors some eggs &#8220;for hatching out.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Pleeeeze!  Save the babies!&#8221;</p>
<p>If they get any chicks, you can name them all Jesus Christ.</p>
<p>Okay, I &#8220;get&#8221; the idea of abstaining from animal products.  It&#8217;s really a sort of modern-day quest for spiritual purity &#8212; an attempt to abstract oneself from the Way of All Flesh.</p>
<p>But a person&#8217;s principles would be less susceptible to mockery from us unwashed savages if said person also possessed any sort of grasp of basic biological principles.</p>
<p>This applies to Republican Presidents and Presidential candidates who deny the organizing principle of all biological science as well as vegans who believe in virgin chicken birth, so I&#8217;m an equal-opportunity savage.</p>
<p>Good luck with the chooks.  We are closing on our farm in a couple of weeks; I hope to have chicks in shortly thereafter.  It&#8217;s hard enough to hold off on gardening because of the move.  We get a significant portion of our food from it, and not planting feels like courting starvation.  I&#8217;ve covered the beds at our current house with black plastic to smother weeds and to look tidy for buyers.  I have to stifle the urge to show up at the new place with a rototiller while the sellers gape at me from their mound of cardboard boxes.</p>
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		<title>By: Colorado Transplant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colorado Transplant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does the number 1,305,057 have some special meaning?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does the number 1,305,057 have some special meaning?</p>
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		<title>By: rose-aka the Drew fan club</title>
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		<dc:creator>rose-aka the Drew fan club</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 04:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck to the little guy --  a great forever home with dogs to torment, a another kitty friend to play with! 
Gina, I hope you give us the rundown on what Drew, Clara , the retriever clan, Pip and the rabbit&#039;s reactions are!
Meow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck to the little guy &#8212;  a great forever home with dogs to torment, a another kitty friend to play with!<br />
Gina, I hope you give us the rundown on what Drew, Clara , the retriever clan, Pip and the rabbit&#8217;s reactions are!<br />
Meow!</p>
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		<title>By: VJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>VJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re Gina&#039;s comment about the neighbor gals. &quot;Don&#039;t know how they square that in their heads. But then I haven&#039;t seen a whole lot of evidence that there&#039;s much of anything up in their heads anyway..nice people and good neighbors&quot;.....etc, etc. Well Gina you got me laughing on that one. Must be an epidemic going around. I have one of those also. Drives me right up the wall. Almost have to sneak out my door to get away from her.
As the saying goes...&quot;the lights are on, but no one&#039;s home&quot;. Wonderful pictures of Clara and Larry. Soooo cute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Gina&#8217;s comment about the neighbor gals. &#8220;Don&#8217;t know how they square that in their heads. But then I haven&#8217;t seen a whole lot of evidence that there&#8217;s much of anything up in their heads anyway..nice people and good neighbors&#8221;&#8230;..etc, etc. Well Gina you got me laughing on that one. Must be an epidemic going around. I have one of those also. Drives me right up the wall. Almost have to sneak out my door to get away from her.<br />
As the saying goes&#8230;&#8221;the lights are on, but no one&#8217;s home&#8221;. Wonderful pictures of Clara and Larry. Soooo cute.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting back to puppy socialization, I was so proud of Harper yesterday. Our neighbor was having his carpets cleaned, so we had the big truck with big hoses making loud noises parked outside our front door. I took Harper out to go potty and she tripped right on by without any concern at all. She finished puppy kindergarten last weekend and the trainer recommended that she skip level 1 obedience and move on to level 2 since she was so calm and good. Hah! They haven&#039;t seen her at home--but we were pleased nonetheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting back to puppy socialization, I was so proud of Harper yesterday. Our neighbor was having his carpets cleaned, so we had the big truck with big hoses making loud noises parked outside our front door. I took Harper out to go potty and she tripped right on by without any concern at all. She finished puppy kindergarten last weekend and the trainer recommended that she skip level 1 obedience and move on to level 2 since she was so calm and good. Hah! They haven&#8217;t seen her at home&#8212;but we were pleased nonetheless.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, my dogs have other ideas in mind when it comes to bunnies. Snap Dogs! A British term actually for whippets. Back a few centuries, there was a sport called &#039;Snap Dog&#039; where one or more whippets/small sighthound types were released in a large enclosure with a number of rabbits or hares, and bets were placed on how many got &#039;snapped&#039; in a specific period of time. Glad that sport has passed into oblivion! However,if you want to train dogs for racing/lure/oval, attaching a bit of freeze dried rabbit such as strips of skin, feet or ears to the &#039;bunny&#039;( normally white plastic bags or a jack-a lure) ups the prey drive! 
    I love Clara the Regal and can&#039;t wait for gratuitous Clara and Ilario blogging!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, my dogs have other ideas in mind when it comes to bunnies. Snap Dogs! A British term actually for whippets. Back a few centuries, there was a sport called &#8216;Snap Dog&#8217; where one or more whippets/small sighthound types were released in a large enclosure with a number of rabbits or hares, and bets were placed on how many got &#8216;snapped&#8217; in a specific period of time. Glad that sport has passed into oblivion! However,if you want to train dogs for racing/lure/oval, attaching a bit of freeze dried rabbit such as strips of skin, feet or ears to the &#8216;bunny&#8217;( normally white plastic bags or a jack-a lure) ups the prey drive!<br />
    I love Clara the Regal and can&#8217;t wait for gratuitous Clara and Ilario blogging!</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People who have never known rabbits as anything other than an ignored backyard hutch-bound kid&#039;s pet have NO IDEA how affectionate, playful, fun and entertaining they can be!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who have never known rabbits as anything other than an ignored backyard hutch-bound kid&#8217;s pet have NO IDEA how affectionate, playful, fun and entertaining they can be!</p>
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		<title>By: 2CatMom</title>
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		<dc:creator>2CatMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bunnies!  What a great idea!  I&#039;ll have to talk to some of my vegan friends about adding this perfect pet to their families.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bunnies!  What a great idea!  I&#8217;ll have to talk to some of my vegan friends about adding this perfect pet to their families.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;So, despite how awkwardly the neighbors worded it, eggs would be off the menu.

&quot;Awkward&quot; is being kind. They truly do not understand -- and argued to the contrary -- that without a rooster, eggs cannot become chickens. 

&gt;Vegans don’t eat animal-derived products, period

This is why &quot;veganism&quot; often seems a tad cult-y to me, instead of being a lifestyle choice derived from thinking things through on your own. 

Does &quot;animal-derived&quot; include the composted manure organic farmers would use in a sustainable and eco-friendly system of agriculture? So you&#039;re not going to choose non-animal foods from organic farms because they rotate chickens through their fields for pest control and soil enrichment (such as in the pioneering sustainability work of &lt;a href=http://www.polyfacefarms.com/ rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Polyface Farm&lt;/a&gt; in Virginia?) Or do vegans insist on the use of earth-damaging fossil-fuel fertilizers and pesticides on their food even though that contributes to global warming and the possible end to the eco-systems a lot of animals (including us) need to survive?

Why if you&#039;re making a logical choice &quot;for the animals&quot; would you say &quot;no&quot; to humanely produced eggs from pet hens and say &quot;yes&quot; to pet food sourced in industrialized factory farms? (As my neighbors do.)

Not to use too much animal-derived product here, but accepting a set of eating rules as &quot;the only way&quot; instead of figuring out where you can exist philosophically and ethically within the big framework we&#039;re all trying to exist is (to borrow from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sho.com/site/ptbs/home.do&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Penn&amp;Teller&lt;/a&gt;) bullshit. 

Count me out of any lifestyle choice I have to follow in lockstep because it&#039;s defined by someone else. 

But as we&#039;ve said here many, many times, we at the Pet Connection aren&#039;t very comfortable with black-and-white, with-us-or-agin&#039;-us dogma from any side. The world is shades of gray to me, and we all do best we can. For me, personally, that means choosing as humane and sustainable a diet as I can, for me and for all my animals. That&#039;s getting increasingly lower on the food chain for me, but the cats and dogs here will always be eating meat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>So, despite how awkwardly the neighbors worded it, eggs would be off the menu.</p>
<p>&#8220;Awkward&#8221; is being kind. They truly do not understand &#8212; and argued to the contrary &#8212; that without a rooster, eggs cannot become chickens. </p>
<p>>Vegans don’t eat animal-derived products, period</p>
<p>This is why &#8220;veganism&#8221; often seems a tad cult-y to me, instead of being a lifestyle choice derived from thinking things through on your own. </p>
<p>Does &#8220;animal-derived&#8221; include the composted manure organic farmers would use in a sustainable and eco-friendly system of agriculture? So you&#8217;re not going to choose non-animal foods from organic farms because they rotate chickens through their fields for pest control and soil enrichment (such as in the pioneering sustainability work of <a href=http://www.polyfacefarms.com/ rel="nofollow">Polyface Farm</a> in Virginia?) Or do vegans insist on the use of earth-damaging fossil-fuel fertilizers and pesticides on their food even though that contributes to global warming and the possible end to the eco-systems a lot of animals (including us) need to survive?</p>
<p>Why if you&#8217;re making a logical choice &#8220;for the animals&#8221; would you say &#8220;no&#8221; to humanely produced eggs from pet hens and say &#8220;yes&#8221; to pet food sourced in industrialized factory farms? (As my neighbors do.)</p>
<p>Not to use too much animal-derived product here, but accepting a set of eating rules as &#8220;the only way&#8221; instead of figuring out where you can exist philosophically and ethically within the big framework we&#8217;re all trying to exist is (to borrow from <a href="http://www.sho.com/site/ptbs/home.do" rel="nofollow">Penn&#038;Teller</a>) bullshit. </p>
<p>Count me out of any lifestyle choice I have to follow in lockstep because it&#8217;s defined by someone else. </p>
<p>But as we&#8217;ve said here many, many times, we at the Pet Connection aren&#8217;t very comfortable with black-and-white, with-us-or-agin&#8217;-us dogma from any side. The world is shades of gray to me, and we all do best we can. For me, personally, that means choosing as humane and sustainable a diet as I can, for me and for all my animals. That&#8217;s getting increasingly lower on the food chain for me, but the cats and dogs here will always be eating meat.</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  Rabbits rock.</description>
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