Comments on: The times may not be a-changin’, but the press releases are http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/04/23/bse-fda-pet-food/ Blogging by a team of pet-care experts led by Dr. Marty Becker. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:19:27 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Bernard J. (Bernie) Starzewski http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/04/23/bse-fda-pet-food/comment-page-1/#comment-255696 Bernard J. (Bernie) Starzewski Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:38:52 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/04/23/bse-fda-pet-food/#comment-255696 As Ive said before, the pet food buisiness is a dirty one. The FDA formerly prohibited using downer cows from entering the human food supply unless they were examined pre-mortem by a vet and certified injured - not sick. Yeah, a lot of good that did! The people who work in these plants and not the upper crust of society and not likely to give two hoots about "rules". Without constant on site supervision by well paid squeaky clean inspectors I wouldnt bet my milk money on this happening. Trust me. Ive been in these plants including the one in Green Bay that has now been bought out by a Brazilian firm which now controls 3/5 of the US production. Just wait til the FDA starts dealing with these guys on that scale! As Ive said before, the pet food buisiness is a dirty one.

The FDA formerly prohibited using downer cows from entering the human food supply unless they were examined pre-mortem by a vet and certified injured - not sick.

Yeah, a lot of good that did!

The people who work in these plants and not the upper crust of society and not likely to give two hoots about “rules”. Without constant on site supervision by well paid squeaky clean inspectors I wouldnt bet my milk money on this happening. Trust me. Ive been in these plants including the one in Green Bay that has now been bought out by a Brazilian firm which now controls 3/5 of the US production.

Just wait til the FDA starts dealing with these guys on that scale!

]]> By: Colorado Transplant http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/04/23/bse-fda-pet-food/comment-page-1/#comment-255692 Colorado Transplant Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:29:27 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/04/23/bse-fda-pet-food/#comment-255692 The dead bodies should not be obvious--doesn't everybody know that. No bodies of dead soldiers shown on TV, the Heparin deaths are not fully counted, the number of dogs and cats killed are minimized. Just keep eating the poisoning food they sell you so you can take the poisoning drugs after. The dead bodies should not be obvious—doesn’t everybody know that.

No bodies of dead soldiers shown on TV, the Heparin deaths are not fully counted, the number of dogs and cats killed are minimized.

Just keep eating the poisoning food they sell you so you can take the poisoning drugs after.

]]> By: catmom5 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/04/23/bse-fda-pet-food/comment-page-1/#comment-255676 catmom5 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:00:12 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/04/23/bse-fda-pet-food/#comment-255676 Is this "Here we go again . . ." or "Still . . ."? Is this “Here we go again . . .” or “Still . . .”?

]]> By: Duaneisadork http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/04/23/bse-fda-pet-food/comment-page-1/#comment-255400 Duaneisadork Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:55:12 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/04/23/bse-fda-pet-food/#comment-255400 My joy that the FDA plans to enforce something from 2005, in 2009, maybe,knows no bounds. However my dread for what is going to be dumped into pet food -this- year, likewise knows no bounds. Melamine and pool chemicals with a sauce of expired acetaminophen is starting to sound tasty, the more you look into prions like Mad Cow, BSE, etc. Which may be loose already in the food chain. With the FDA refusing to count the dead from the Heparin, just like they refused to count the dead pets, a fabulous system for keeping the death toll low from any disaster, it looks like the FDA has no intention of doing anything that might inconvenience big food and pharma. Keep the death register software handy, PetConnection, the need for using it again is going to remain elevated for a while. I don't have the heart to ask the PFI, or the FDA, how long it takes for dogs and cats to show signs of infection from eating prion infested meat, because I am sure they know. Sigh. My joy that the FDA plans to enforce something from 2005, in 2009, maybe,knows no bounds.
However my dread for what is going to be dumped into pet food -this- year, likewise knows no bounds.

Melamine and pool chemicals with a sauce of expired acetaminophen is starting to sound tasty, the more you look into prions like Mad Cow, BSE, etc. Which may be loose already in the food chain.

With the FDA refusing to count the dead from the Heparin, just like they refused to count the dead pets, a fabulous system for keeping the death toll low from any disaster, it looks like the FDA has no intention of doing anything that might inconvenience big food and pharma.

Keep the death register software handy, PetConnection, the need for using it again is going to remain elevated for a while.
I don’t have the heart to ask the PFI, or the FDA, how long it takes for dogs and cats to show signs of infection from eating prion infested meat, because I am sure they know.

Sigh.

]]> By: Colorado Transplant http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/04/23/bse-fda-pet-food/comment-page-1/#comment-255201 Colorado Transplant Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:53:33 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/04/23/bse-fda-pet-food/#comment-255201 Yeah, well now some of the drug research jobs by the big U.S. drug companies are going to be done overseas, according to the Wall Street Health Blog. We have nothing to fear until we have to take one of the drugs--researched and manufactured by the Chinese and Indian countries. I thought the FDA sent samples to several labs and found definite contamination in the Heparin drug from China--at least that is what I have read. Why should the FDA get more funding if they are not part of a big corporation that will give campaign funds to a Senator, a U.S. Representative, or a Presidential Campaign? Mama--mee-a--what a way to go! Yeah, well now some of the drug research jobs by the big U.S. drug companies are going to be done overseas, according to the Wall Street Health Blog.

We have nothing to fear until we have to take one of the drugs—researched and manufactured by the Chinese and Indian countries.

I thought the FDA sent samples to several labs and found definite contamination in the Heparin drug from China—at least that is what I have read.

Why should the FDA get more funding if they are not part of a big corporation that will give campaign funds to a Senator, a U.S. Representative, or a Presidential Campaign?

Mama—mee-a—what a way to go!

]]> By: C.L.H. http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/04/23/bse-fda-pet-food/comment-page-1/#comment-255186 C.L.H. Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:18:40 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/04/23/bse-fda-pet-food/#comment-255186 I got the impression from the hearings that the FDA has been asking for funding and can go on asking forever. They're not going to get it. I also don't trust the numbers when it comes to death and injuries related to the contaminated heparin. Considering it is given to seriously ill people, it may be hard to determine cause of death in some cases. I got the impression from the hearings that the FDA has been asking for funding and can go on asking forever. They’re not going to get it.

I also don’t trust the numbers when it comes to death and injuries related to the contaminated heparin. Considering it is given to seriously ill people, it may be hard to determine cause of death in some cases.

]]> By: 2CatMom http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/04/23/bse-fda-pet-food/comment-page-1/#comment-255177 2CatMom Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:45:27 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/04/23/bse-fda-pet-food/#comment-255177 Here's a few more fun facts about Herparin. There have been 81 cases (though this could be like the imfamous 16 poisoned animal numbers) of confirmed deaths due to bad Herparin. And they have not all been in the US. What is it with our government and the Chinese? Someone at that hearing needed to ask "Just how many (in order magnitude of 1000s) deaths will it take for the FDA to be concerned enough to ask for funding before Chinese goods enter our country? 1,000, 10,000, 100,000? Oh yeah, that's human deaths because we know that 10,000+ pet deaths was not enough to change diddly squat! Here’s a few more fun facts about Herparin. There have been 81 cases (though this could be like the imfamous 16 poisoned animal numbers) of confirmed deaths due to bad Herparin.

And they have not all been in the US. What is it with our government and the Chinese? Someone at that hearing needed to ask “Just how many (in order magnitude of 1000s) deaths will it take for the FDA to be concerned enough to ask for funding before Chinese goods enter our country? 1,000, 10,000, 100,000?

Oh yeah, that’s human deaths because we know that 10,000+ pet deaths was not enough to change diddly squat!

]]> By: C.L.H. http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/04/23/bse-fda-pet-food/comment-page-1/#comment-255165 C.L.H. Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:37:41 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/04/23/bse-fda-pet-food/#comment-255165 Yeah, that's the one. Congress doesn't seem to understand that imports have increased 100-fold and we haven't made accommodations for this. They asked Von Eschenbach (sp?) how he was going to handle this in light of the fact that they weren't giving the FDA more money this year. Of course, no rational answer was forthcoming. It's a "Ship of Fools" if I ever saw one. You must send pictures of the pigs in your backyard, Gina! Heparin comes from pig intestines. You've been holding out on us. Yeah, that’s the one. Congress doesn’t seem to understand that imports have increased 100-fold and we haven’t made accommodations for this. They asked Von Eschenbach (sp?) how he was going to handle this in light of the fact that they weren’t giving the FDA more money this year. Of course, no rational answer was forthcoming. It’s a “Ship of Fools” if I ever saw one.
You must send pictures of the pigs in your backyard, Gina! Heparin comes from pig intestines. You’ve been holding out on us.

]]> By: Gina Spadafori http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/04/23/bse-fda-pet-food/comment-page-1/#comment-255160 Gina Spadafori Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:51:20 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/04/23/bse-fda-pet-food/#comment-255160 This hearing, maybe? http://therpmreport.com/Free/firsttake.aspx Oh, and drat, I HAVE BEEN making my own heparin at home. Sheesh. Gotta stop that. This hearing, maybe?

http://therpmreport.com/Free/firsttake.aspx

Oh, and drat, I HAVE BEEN making my own heparin at home. Sheesh. Gotta stop that.

]]> By: C.L.H. http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/04/23/bse-fda-pet-food/comment-page-1/#comment-255148 C.L.H. Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:22:36 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/04/23/bse-fda-pet-food/#comment-255148 Actually, it was more bleak than that. They were discussing how we're going to inspect cheap pharmaceuticals that come into this country from overseas. The Chinese are irate because they feel the FDA's science is not accurate and that the heparin was contaminated in this country. The congressmen asked scary questions like, "When you found you needed more money, did you ask for it?" and, "Why in the last year have we had lead painted toys, tainted pet food, tainted toothpaste and contaminated heparin?" It was surreal. We're pointing fingers and not solving the problem. Actually, it was more bleak than that. They were discussing how we’re going to inspect cheap pharmaceuticals that come into this country from overseas. The Chinese are irate because they feel the FDA’s science is not accurate and that the heparin was contaminated in this country. The congressmen asked scary questions like, “When you found you needed more money, did you ask for it?” and, “Why in the last year have we had lead painted toys, tainted pet food, tainted toothpaste and contaminated heparin?” It was surreal. We’re pointing fingers and not solving the problem.

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