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		<title>By: Oona</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/04/17/mrsi-woes/comment-page-2/#comment-490885</link>
		<dc:creator>Oona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 04:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For your cat with the belly infection...

Please look into using Azithromycin on your cat.  Sometimes the type of infection you describe can be from Bartonella Hensale an emerging disease recognized in cats and to less extent dogs (causes cat scratch fever in humans - mostly harmless in cats, BUT about 25 percent that carry it CAN get chronic inflamatory/infections of different body systems eg, eyes/skin/URI/kidneys etc).  

Bartonella is contracted from infected ticks or fleas that bite the cat/person/dog and pass it on.  A good google search will get you some great info.  

Anyway, zithro is used in humans for Lyme&#039;s treatment (a tick borne disease of great concern in Eastern US). Also for ... Bartonella!! 

Zithro stays in cats tissues a long time, so you only dose once per day.  The dose is 10mg per kg of body weight or about 1/4 of a 250 mg table (human dosage) for a 7 lb cat.  A 21 day course is needed to eradicate the Bartonella.  It is effective on other bugs as well.  

I have semi ferals - and feral cats.  Some cannot be trapped to go to the vets, so I am well versed in dosage and abx treatments of varying diseases (I&#039;m becoming a practical vet tech by necessity).  

Merck&#039;s Vet Manual is online, you can google and consult that as well if you need info on dosages for drugs.  

While I respect the not creating new super bugs with abx treatments gone crazy view of vets - sometimes we have to treat not knowing what we are treating, just that the treatment works!  And when you can&#039;t culture something that does NOT MEAN it IS NOT PRESENT.  Ask Lyme&#039;s patients about this - they will tell you plenty about testing negative but really being positive!!

Now, where to get your abx - you can order &quot;fish abx&quot; online.  These are by and large as good as human grade abx, and can be used in people and dogs and cats too.   They are used in the fish/aquarium settings .. a loop hole in our drug/abx regulations. 

I use fish drugs on my ferals when I need to.  I have Cefotrexin, Flagyl, Penicillin, Amxocillin all in the cupboard.  
I also keep my old drugs from the vet if I have not used (until they expire).  Clindamycin is very good for bone infections, and anerobic infections - so I do have some of that as well.

Zithromycin can be bought from an online overseas pharmacy - Mexico or Canada have ones that you can get prescriptions for and get the abx mailed to you.  

I should know, as I&#039;ve done it before and been largely pleased with the abx I got.  

Good luck with it, and if you don&#039;t trust your vet, do some research on the symptoms and what you think might be causing it - spend some time reading the Vet Manual.  

You will be happy you did.  Oh and FYI to all of you with MSRA or MRSI as they call it in pets -  Medi Grade Honey WORKS.  I am a bee keeper and I have used it on my own infections.  Honey is highly osmotic, and sucks water out of bacterial cells, thereby killing them, this is why bacteria generally doesn&#039;t grow in honey.  Also, honey has some hydrogen peroxide released when it is mixed with water (and peroxide is a germ killer).  Finally, there are about 600 or so compounds in honey, not all of which are identified, and there may well be a potential abx lurking in the honey.  

In any case, it is one of the last cures for MRSA - and has a very high success rate.

Good luck to all here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For your cat with the belly infection&#8230;</p>
<p>Please look into using Azithromycin on your cat.  Sometimes the type of infection you describe can be from Bartonella Hensale an emerging disease recognized in cats and to less extent dogs (causes cat scratch fever in humans - mostly harmless in cats, BUT about 25 percent that carry it CAN get chronic inflamatory/infections of different body systems eg, eyes/skin/URI/kidneys etc).  </p>
<p>Bartonella is contracted from infected ticks or fleas that bite the cat/person/dog and pass it on.  A good google search will get you some great info.  </p>
<p>Anyway, zithro is used in humans for Lyme&#8217;s treatment (a tick borne disease of great concern in Eastern US). Also for &#8230; Bartonella!! </p>
<p>Zithro stays in cats tissues a long time, so you only dose once per day.  The dose is 10mg per kg of body weight or about 1/4 of a 250 mg table (human dosage) for a 7 lb cat.  A 21 day course is needed to eradicate the Bartonella.  It is effective on other bugs as well.  </p>
<p>I have semi ferals - and feral cats.  Some cannot be trapped to go to the vets, so I am well versed in dosage and abx treatments of varying diseases (I&#8217;m becoming a practical vet tech by necessity).  </p>
<p>Merck&#8217;s Vet Manual is online, you can google and consult that as well if you need info on dosages for drugs.  </p>
<p>While I respect the not creating new super bugs with abx treatments gone crazy view of vets - sometimes we have to treat not knowing what we are treating, just that the treatment works!  And when you can&#8217;t culture something that does NOT MEAN it IS NOT PRESENT.  Ask Lyme&#8217;s patients about this - they will tell you plenty about testing negative but really being positive!!</p>
<p>Now, where to get your abx - you can order &#8220;fish abx&#8221; online.  These are by and large as good as human grade abx, and can be used in people and dogs and cats too.   They are used in the fish/aquarium settings .. a loop hole in our drug/abx regulations. </p>
<p>I use fish drugs on my ferals when I need to.  I have Cefotrexin, Flagyl, Penicillin, Amxocillin all in the cupboard.<br />
I also keep my old drugs from the vet if I have not used (until they expire).  Clindamycin is very good for bone infections, and anerobic infections - so I do have some of that as well.</p>
<p>Zithromycin can be bought from an online overseas pharmacy - Mexico or Canada have ones that you can get prescriptions for and get the abx mailed to you.  </p>
<p>I should know, as I&#8217;ve done it before and been largely pleased with the abx I got.  </p>
<p>Good luck with it, and if you don&#8217;t trust your vet, do some research on the symptoms and what you think might be causing it - spend some time reading the Vet Manual.  </p>
<p>You will be happy you did.  Oh and FYI to all of you with MSRA or MRSI as they call it in pets -  Medi Grade Honey WORKS.  I am a bee keeper and I have used it on my own infections.  Honey is highly osmotic, and sucks water out of bacterial cells, thereby killing them, this is why bacteria generally doesn&#8217;t grow in honey.  Also, honey has some hydrogen peroxide released when it is mixed with water (and peroxide is a germ killer).  Finally, there are about 600 or so compounds in honey, not all of which are identified, and there may well be a potential abx lurking in the honey.  </p>
<p>In any case, it is one of the last cures for MRSA - and has a very high success rate.</p>
<p>Good luck to all here!</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 02:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s great news for Kyrie! I will keep my fingers crossed for her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s great news for Kyrie! I will keep my fingers crossed for her.</p>
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		<title>By: Christie Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christie Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Deborah... I&#039;m so sorry you&#039;ve had this terrible time with your kitty, and that you can&#039;t seem to get decent vet care where you live. 

Kyrie is doing well and has had no further problems since starting thyroid supplementation... knock on wood!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Deborah&#8230; I&#8217;m so sorry you&#8217;ve had this terrible time with your kitty, and that you can&#8217;t seem to get decent vet care where you live. </p>
<p>Kyrie is doing well and has had no further problems since starting thyroid supplementation&#8230; knock on wood!</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Christine,

Just wanted to give you an update on my use of Only Natural Pet products I am using on Rose my cat which are an Immune Strengthener and a liquid drop product called BSST which are used to purify the blood. I mix these into her food. She does seem better, her appetite seems better, her fur became much nicer, and she doesn&#039;t hide, so I don&#039;t think she is in pain. Her abscess seems to be seeping a bit still but perhaps its a bit less then befor. 

She has been on these herbal supplements for about 2 weeks because the antibiotics made her so sick she stopped eating entirely for about 4 days and I had to force her to take water using a dropper. Then later I cooked chicken breast in water and gave her the water, little by little her appetite returned but I was wary of giving her medication again. I figured if she was going to go, better make things as pleasant as possible rather then force more medicine on her. Then later i gave her the herbal medicine and it took her a while to get use to it but she doesn&#039;t seem to mind at all now that she has. 

I also tried to get her to use the salmon oil which is suppose to be really good for dogs and cats immunce system but she didn&#039;t like it and ate very reluctantly. Then one day she threw up so I have stopped giving her any of the oil.

I will try to keep you updated and wish you the best with Kryie.

take care,
D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Christine,</p>
<p>Just wanted to give you an update on my use of Only Natural Pet products I am using on Rose my cat which are an Immune Strengthener and a liquid drop product called BSST which are used to purify the blood. I mix these into her food. She does seem better, her appetite seems better, her fur became much nicer, and she doesn&#8217;t hide, so I don&#8217;t think she is in pain. Her abscess seems to be seeping a bit still but perhaps its a bit less then befor. </p>
<p>She has been on these herbal supplements for about 2 weeks because the antibiotics made her so sick she stopped eating entirely for about 4 days and I had to force her to take water using a dropper. Then later I cooked chicken breast in water and gave her the water, little by little her appetite returned but I was wary of giving her medication again. I figured if she was going to go, better make things as pleasant as possible rather then force more medicine on her. Then later i gave her the herbal medicine and it took her a while to get use to it but she doesn&#8217;t seem to mind at all now that she has. </p>
<p>I also tried to get her to use the salmon oil which is suppose to be really good for dogs and cats immunce system but she didn&#8217;t like it and ate very reluctantly. Then one day she threw up so I have stopped giving her any of the oil.</p>
<p>I will try to keep you updated and wish you the best with Kryie.</p>
<p>take care,<br />
D.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your response Christie! 

There are only two vets on the island and one of them has a reputation for being terrible...so I am left with only one vet. 

If not I would of taken her to see someone else but as things stand I am stuck. When I tried to get information about the culture out of him he says it&#039;s just the regular bacteria which should be treatable by the antibiotics he has given me. Then he said maybe she has aids, but i remind him she was tested by him and the tests showed she was healthy. So he says it could be cancer, but I doubt this because she was always so healthy up until the operation he said was necessary.(I am not so sure it was necessary because her stomach was hanging for years...and she never had any problems with it.)

I doubt his word concerning the culture because he never got back to me about results even though I called him several times over a 2-3 period...which is long to wait for an infection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your response Christie! </p>
<p>There are only two vets on the island and one of them has a reputation for being terrible&#8230;so I am left with only one vet. </p>
<p>If not I would of taken her to see someone else but as things stand I am stuck. When I tried to get information about the culture out of him he says it&#8217;s just the regular bacteria which should be treatable by the antibiotics he has given me. Then he said maybe she has aids, but i remind him she was tested by him and the tests showed she was healthy. So he says it could be cancer, but I doubt this because she was always so healthy up until the operation he said was necessary.(I am not so sure it was necessary because her stomach was hanging for years&#8230;and she never had any problems with it.)</p>
<p>I doubt his word concerning the culture because he never got back to me about results even though I called him several times over a 2-3 period&#8230;which is long to wait for an infection.</p>
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		<title>By: Christie Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christie Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deborah, you have to ask your vet to do a culture and then show you the results from the lab. Don&#039;t just let him blow you off. Knowledge is power. You need to KNOW what the bug is. If he&#039;s already done a culture, ask him to show you the lab report.

Do you have a vet school or veterinary dermatologist anywhere accessible? You&#039;d likely only have to go once or twice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deborah, you have to ask your vet to do a culture and then show you the results from the lab. Don&#8217;t just let him blow you off. Knowledge is power. You need to KNOW what the bug is. If he&#8217;s already done a culture, ask him to show you the lab report.</p>
<p>Do you have a vet school or veterinary dermatologist anywhere accessible? You&#8217;d likely only have to go once or twice.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I forgot to mention, that my sister has a sick beagle that has been battling chronic ehrlichia for years. I suggested that she add coconut oil to his diet and green tea to his water. 

Coconut oil is used by cancer and aids patients to boost their immune system and green tea has been proven to boost antibiotics making them more powerful.

Good luck, I wish you well.

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As soon as I my cat tries the supplements I hope to report back on how they work. In the mean time any suggestions are welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I forgot to mention, that my sister has a sick beagle that has been battling chronic ehrlichia for years. I suggested that she add coconut oil to his diet and green tea to his water. </p>
<p>Coconut oil is used by cancer and aids patients to boost their immune system and green tea has been proven to boost antibiotics making them more powerful.</p>
<p>Good luck, I wish you well.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>As soon as I my cat tries the supplements I hope to report back on how they work. In the mean time any suggestions are welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand what you are going through as I am going through something similar with my cat. I hope Kyrie is better!

My cat was operated on for a benign mammary issue, which went fine but seemed to develope an infection later, her wounds re-opened and started leaking puss. Her stomach also had hard bumps. The vet took her in again and drained her. She was again on antibiotics and everything worked well except a week or 2 later the symptoms came back. Since she has been on off antibiotics. The vet here on the island i live on seems to have given up and the other has a reputation for being a butcher...I asked them to do cultures but the vet said they were just the normal bacteria....I am not sure about his professional opinion. At the moment she is on clindrops and seems slightly better. This is her second week and her planned treatment is for 4 weaks. I am also washing her cuts with betadine, twice a day.

She is eating slightly less, but she is also moving less as it&#039;s hot, so that may be normal. Her cuts seem slightly better, but some reopen occasionally with clear puss. Her stomach still feels hard and she doesn&#039;t like me to touch it.

I purchased some immune supplements for pets from the website &quot;only natural pet&quot;.

Can anyone suggest anything else????

This has been going on for months and we are getting desperate. Please if anyone can suggest something...I am all ears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand what you are going through as I am going through something similar with my cat. I hope Kyrie is better!</p>
<p>My cat was operated on for a benign mammary issue, which went fine but seemed to develope an infection later, her wounds re-opened and started leaking puss. Her stomach also had hard bumps. The vet took her in again and drained her. She was again on antibiotics and everything worked well except a week or 2 later the symptoms came back. Since she has been on off antibiotics. The vet here on the island i live on seems to have given up and the other has a reputation for being a butcher&#8230;I asked them to do cultures but the vet said they were just the normal bacteria&#8230;.I am not sure about his professional opinion. At the moment she is on clindrops and seems slightly better. This is her second week and her planned treatment is for 4 weaks. I am also washing her cuts with betadine, twice a day.</p>
<p>She is eating slightly less, but she is also moving less as it&#8217;s hot, so that may be normal. Her cuts seem slightly better, but some reopen occasionally with clear puss. Her stomach still feels hard and she doesn&#8217;t like me to touch it.</p>
<p>I purchased some immune supplements for pets from the website &#8220;only natural pet&#8221;.</p>
<p>Can anyone suggest anything else????</p>
<p>This has been going on for months and we are getting desperate. Please if anyone can suggest something&#8230;I am all ears.</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>**thanks for your support, she got better and is now MRSI free, knock on wood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>**thanks for your support, she got better and is now MRSI free, knock on wood.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 03:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wish I had something to tell you--I understand that the treatment for cats is a little different than dogs (mine is a pug). I think that the pred contributed to my pooch&#039;s compromised immune system and set her up to get the MRSI. I&#039;ve read the feline IV treatment works well. Good luck to you. Just stay diligent and don&#039;t be afraid to get a second opinion or even a third.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish I had something to tell you&#8212;I understand that the treatment for cats is a little different than dogs (mine is a pug). I think that the pred contributed to my pooch&#8217;s compromised immune system and set her up to get the MRSI. I&#8217;ve read the feline IV treatment works well. Good luck to you. Just stay diligent and don&#8217;t be afraid to get a second opinion or even a third.</p>
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