Comments on: Dead pets and animal rights: PETA’s blue-needle solution http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/03/04/dead-pets-and-animal-rights-the-blue-needle-solution-to-exploitation/ Blogging by a team of pet-care experts led by Dr. Marty Becker. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 13:41:25 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: LauraS http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/03/04/dead-pets-and-animal-rights-the-blue-needle-solution-to-exploitation/comment-page-1/#comment-238435 LauraS Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:58:55 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/03/04/dead-pets-and-animal-rights-the-blue-needle-solution-to-exploitation/#comment-238435 "One generation and out" is a statement by HSUS president Wayne Pacelle. It was in this context: "We have no ethical obligation to preserve the different breeds of livestock produced through selective breeding. One generation and out. We have no problem with the extinction of domestic animals. They are creations of human selective breeding." Some of us do have a "problem with the extinction of domestic animals." Some of us are fighting Trojan Horse measures advocated by HSUS and PETA, such as mandatory spay/neuter laws, that are intended to facilitate "the extinction of domestic animals." Not convinced? Read on: http://www.naiaonline.org/articles/archives/animalrightsquote.htm “One generation and out” is a statement by HSUS president Wayne Pacelle. It was in this context:

“We have no ethical obligation to preserve the different breeds of livestock produced through selective breeding. One generation and out. We have no problem with the extinction of domestic animals. They are creations of human selective breeding.”

Some of us do have a “problem with the extinction of domestic animals.”

Some of us are fighting Trojan Horse measures advocated by HSUS and PETA, such as mandatory spay/neuter laws, that are intended to facilitate “the extinction of domestic animals.”

Not convinced? Read on: http://www.naiaonline.org/arti.....squote.htm

]]> By: mikken http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/03/04/dead-pets-and-animal-rights-the-blue-needle-solution-to-exploitation/comment-page-1/#comment-238432 mikken Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:52:27 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/03/04/dead-pets-and-animal-rights-the-blue-needle-solution-to-exploitation/#comment-238432 "yes, they mean no more pets, zoos or meat for dinner" Ok, but I always thought that their message was not *owning* pets, that animals should "be free to live as animals" (yeah, because I'm sure all the little dogs would do really well in the wild and the sick/old dogs would rather "run free" than have a warm, soft place to lie on at home). But their actions are for no more pets ALIVE, period. They don't want cats to live feral, they want cats to be exterminated. They don't want feral dogs, they want all dogs to be exterminated. They want them to not EXIST anymore...why? So that man can no longer exploit them? Well that's a brilliant plan, that is. When cats and dogs exist only as pictures in books, they'll be "safe". This whole thing makes me wonder what was so special about the 3% of animals that made it out of PETA's hands alive in 2006? I'd be very curious as to how they were adopted out and to whom? “yes, they mean no more pets, zoos or meat for dinner”

Ok, but I always thought that their message was not *owning* pets, that animals should “be free to live as animals” (yeah, because I’m sure all the little dogs would do really well in the wild and the sick/old dogs would rather “run free” than have a warm, soft place to lie on at home).

But their actions are for no more pets ALIVE, period. They don’t want cats to live feral, they want cats to be exterminated. They don’t want feral dogs, they want all dogs to be exterminated. They want them to not EXIST anymore…why? So that man can no longer exploit them? Well that’s a brilliant plan, that is. When cats and dogs exist only as pictures in books, they’ll be “safe”.

This whole thing makes me wonder what was so special about the 3% of animals that made it out of PETA’s hands alive in 2006? I’d be very curious as to how they were adopted out and to whom?

]]> By: H. Houlahan http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/03/04/dead-pets-and-animal-rights-the-blue-needle-solution-to-exploitation/comment-page-1/#comment-238412 H. Houlahan Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:40:32 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/03/04/dead-pets-and-animal-rights-the-blue-needle-solution-to-exploitation/#comment-238412 Bwwaaa haaaa haaaa!!! If they do a nice job with that leather handbag, I'd be happy to buy it and turn it into a game pouch. I'll skip the Ingrid barbeque. Even if they weren't working with bitter and unwholesome ingredients, where they gonna find a vegan who knows how to grill? Mmmmm ... barbeque ... wonder if it's warm enough outside to fire up the charcoal for my lamb chops tonight ... Bwwaaa haaaa haaaa!!!

If they do a nice job with that leather handbag, I’d be happy to buy it and turn it into a game pouch.

I’ll skip the Ingrid barbeque. Even if they weren’t working with bitter and unwholesome ingredients, where they gonna find a vegan who knows how to grill?

Mmmmm … barbeque … wonder if it’s warm enough outside to fire up the charcoal for my lamb chops tonight …

]]> By: kb http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/03/04/dead-pets-and-animal-rights-the-blue-needle-solution-to-exploitation/comment-page-1/#comment-238238 kb Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:43:20 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/03/04/dead-pets-and-animal-rights-the-blue-needle-solution-to-exploitation/#comment-238238 If Newkirk didn't show enough of her crazy extremism on Colbert, where she said when she dies she wants her flesh barbequed with onions and served to the unsupecting, check out the rest of her will. http://www.peta.org/feat/newkirk/ She also wants her feet turned into umbrella stands and her eyeball sent to the EPA. Even if it's a stunt, it's sick. If Newkirk didn’t show enough of her crazy extremism on Colbert, where she said when she dies she wants her flesh barbequed with onions and served to the unsupecting, check out the rest of her will. http://www.peta.org/feat/newkirk/
She also wants her feet turned into umbrella stands and her eyeball sent to the EPA. Even if it’s a stunt, it’s sick.

]]> By: JenniferJ http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/03/04/dead-pets-and-animal-rights-the-blue-needle-solution-to-exploitation/comment-page-1/#comment-238237 JenniferJ Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:41:06 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/03/04/dead-pets-and-animal-rights-the-blue-needle-solution-to-exploitation/#comment-238237 “One generation, and out” This was actually a quote from Wayne Pacelle of HSUS when he was VP. HSUS in many ways is a better dressed version of PETA under Wayne's direction. I suspect for PETA it should read “One generation, and out, except for the ones we can kill today” “One generation, and out”

This was actually a quote from Wayne Pacelle of HSUS when he was VP.

HSUS in many ways is a better dressed version of PETA under Wayne’s direction.

I suspect for PETA it should read “One generation, and out, except for the ones we can kill today”

]]> By: kb http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/03/04/dead-pets-and-animal-rights-the-blue-needle-solution-to-exploitation/comment-page-1/#comment-238226 kb Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:13:21 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/03/04/dead-pets-and-animal-rights-the-blue-needle-solution-to-exploitation/#comment-238226 mikken, yes, they mean no more pets, zoos or meat for dinner. mikken, yes, they mean no more pets, zoos or meat for dinner.

]]> By: mikken http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/03/04/dead-pets-and-animal-rights-the-blue-needle-solution-to-exploitation/comment-page-1/#comment-238224 mikken Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:00:21 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/03/04/dead-pets-and-animal-rights-the-blue-needle-solution-to-exploitation/#comment-238224 "One generation, and out"? Are you serious? “One generation, and out”?

Are you serious?

]]> By: Pai http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/03/04/dead-pets-and-animal-rights-the-blue-needle-solution-to-exploitation/comment-page-1/#comment-238202 Pai Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:39:13 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/03/04/dead-pets-and-animal-rights-the-blue-needle-solution-to-exploitation/#comment-238202 [quote]So what do they want for the domestic dog/cat/rat/ferret/chicken? What would be their ultimate goal for these animals? Because right now, it looks like extinction.[/quote] Exactly right. Their actual motto is 'One generation, and out.' Extinction of all domestic animals, period, is their goal. [quote]So what do they want for the domestic dog/cat/rat/ferret/chicken? What would be their ultimate goal for these animals? Because right now, it looks like extinction.[/quote]

Exactly right. Their actual motto is ‘One generation, and out.’
Extinction of all domestic animals, period, is their goal.

]]> By: The OTHER Pat http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/03/04/dead-pets-and-animal-rights-the-blue-needle-solution-to-exploitation/comment-page-1/#comment-237941 The OTHER Pat Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:11:43 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/03/04/dead-pets-and-animal-rights-the-blue-needle-solution-to-exploitation/#comment-237941 Bobby, what connection are you suggesting between the fact that Federal agencies tasked with overseeing how animal studies are conducted have failed (again) to prevent violations and the fact that PETA misleads the public about their intentions and kills animals left in their care? Bobby, what connection are you suggesting between the fact that Federal agencies tasked with overseeing how animal studies are conducted have failed (again) to prevent violations and the fact that PETA misleads the public about their intentions and kills animals left in their care?

]]> By: Susan http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/03/04/dead-pets-and-animal-rights-the-blue-needle-solution-to-exploitation/comment-page-1/#comment-237862 Susan Wed, 05 Mar 2008 08:00:36 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/03/04/dead-pets-and-animal-rights-the-blue-needle-solution-to-exploitation/#comment-237862 As someone who maintains a small feral cat colony, I have to agree with Mikken and ask *what* kind of life - if any - does PETA envision for cats and dogs? It seems like they don't want them as companion animals nor living "wild" as ferals. The cats I care for are spayed/neutered (save for the wily one we have been trying for two years to catch) and spend their days sunning in the yard and chowing down at mealtime. My life should be so rough! The reality is that there is no such thing as a "perfect" life, not for animals, humans, or anything - and to kill something just because it won't have a "perfect" life (in the wild or in a home) is beyond comprehension. As someone who maintains a small feral cat colony, I have to agree with Mikken and ask *what* kind of life - if any - does PETA envision for cats and dogs? It seems like they don’t want them as companion animals nor living “wild” as ferals. The cats I care for are spayed/neutered (save for the wily one we have been trying for two years to catch) and spend their days sunning in the yard and chowing down at mealtime. My life should be so rough! The reality is that there is no such thing as a “perfect” life, not for animals, humans, or anything - and to kill something just because it won’t have a “perfect” life (in the wild or in a home) is beyond comprehension.

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