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	<title>Comments on: HSUS and USDA: Which one works for you?</title>
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		<title>By: emily</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/02/29/hsus-and-usda-which-one-works-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-237654</link>
		<dc:creator>emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is my understanding that the footage was taken by a local human organisation and distributed by HSUS.  In either case HSUS and USDA is not an either/or.  Each should do what their organisation is meant to do.  And it seems to me that they are.  I would support fundign and legislating to allow USDA to do what they are ment to do more often and more emphatically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is my understanding that the footage was taken by a local human organisation and distributed by HSUS.  In either case HSUS and USDA is not an either/or.  Each should do what their organisation is meant to do.  And it seems to me that they are.  I would support fundign and legislating to allow USDA to do what they are ment to do more often and more emphatically.</p>
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		<title>By: kabbage</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/02/29/hsus-and-usda-which-one-works-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-237043</link>
		<dc:creator>kabbage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you throw a ripe banana or two in with the liver brownies/pudding, it smells better while baking -- almost like banana bread.  I&#039;ve also added spinach for more vitamins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you throw a ripe banana or two in with the liver brownies/pudding, it smells better while baking &#8212; almost like banana bread.  I&#8217;ve also added spinach for more vitamins.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard J. (Bernie) Starzewski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernard J. (Bernie) Starzewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 02:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gina, I will see if I can pry it out of her...

Re the liver stuff... My mom used to just fry it up or cut it up and toss in in chunks on their dish.  They gobbled it up just like that!

Of course the fried chicken necks were the favorite.

When I bring home KFC or deli (broasted) chicken my old Brandy used to get really excited.
Scout does now too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gina, I will see if I can pry it out of her&#8230;</p>
<p>Re the liver stuff&#8230; My mom used to just fry it up or cut it up and toss in in chunks on their dish.  They gobbled it up just like that!</p>
<p>Of course the fried chicken necks were the favorite.</p>
<p>When I bring home KFC or deli (broasted) chicken my old Brandy used to get really excited.<br />
Scout does now too.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard J. (Bernie) Starzewski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernard J. (Bernie) Starzewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 02:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>slt, I appreciate your situation.

I did not mean to hurt your feelings.
I am saying though that if you seek out alternatives it may well not turn out to be as expensive as you might think.

My mom did not grow up with much money.  Coming out of the depression they still managed to have dogs that lived mostly on table scraps and the cheapest of the cheap meats and stuff that would have otherwise been thrown out.

You might well be surprised not only at what you can get but what they will eat and do well on!  You might even find yourself saving money.
If you think about it, back then they did not have commercial dog foods like we have now and her dogs were always fat and sassy.  Often too fat in fact :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>slt, I appreciate your situation.</p>
<p>I did not mean to hurt your feelings.<br />
I am saying though that if you seek out alternatives it may well not turn out to be as expensive as you might think.</p>
<p>My mom did not grow up with much money.  Coming out of the depression they still managed to have dogs that lived mostly on table scraps and the cheapest of the cheap meats and stuff that would have otherwise been thrown out.</p>
<p>You might well be surprised not only at what you can get but what they will eat and do well on!  You might even find yourself saving money.<br />
If you think about it, back then they did not have commercial dog foods like we have now and her dogs were always fat and sassy.  Often too fat in fact :-)</p>
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		<title>By: slt</title>
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		<dc:creator>slt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 18:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you really love your dog (and who here doesnt?) you can find a way.&quot;

By my standards, I love my dogs very much and they don&#039;t care about anyone else&#039;s standards.  I can&#039;t afford to feed them as I would like to and I lament the fact that what I can (barely) afford is, as I have been learning over the past year, lower quality than what it should be if everyone was doing their jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you really love your dog (and who here doesnt?) you can find a way.&#8221;</p>
<p>By my standards, I love my dogs very much and they don&#8217;t care about anyone else&#8217;s standards.  I can&#8217;t afford to feed them as I would like to and I lament the fact that what I can (barely) afford is, as I have been learning over the past year, lower quality than what it should be if everyone was doing their jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 15:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pepper still gets kibble, but not nearly as much as she used to.  Except for big raw bones for her to chew on, I can&#039;t get used to totally raw food for her.

I am making &quot;liver brownies&quot; for Pepper (dog) , &quot;liver pudding&quot; for Lindsey (cat) -- dump a bunch of livers (even the free-range liver at the farmers&#039; market isn&#039;t expensive) in the food processer, add one or two eggs (with shell, wash first), and a cup or so of pumpkin/winter squash, then process until it&#039;s &quot;pink goo.&quot; 

For &quot;liver pudding&quot; for the cat, pour some out and put it in a pyrex baking dish with lid.

For &quot;liver brownies&quot; for the dog, then add a grain flour (I alternate between oatmeal, whole wheat, corn meal and rye flour -- supposedly, there is less chance of canine grain allergies if you rotate grains) until you get a thick paste.  Grease a jelly roll pan and pour in the batter.

Bake both in a 325 degree oven (yes, it stinks up the house) until done (knife comes out clean in both).  Give as treats/supplements to main food.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pepper still gets kibble, but not nearly as much as she used to.  Except for big raw bones for her to chew on, I can&#8217;t get used to totally raw food for her.</p>
<p>I am making &#8220;liver brownies&#8221; for Pepper (dog) , &#8220;liver pudding&#8221; for Lindsey (cat) &#8212; dump a bunch of livers (even the free-range liver at the farmers&#8217; market isn&#8217;t expensive) in the food processer, add one or two eggs (with shell, wash first), and a cup or so of pumpkin/winter squash, then process until it&#8217;s &#8220;pink goo.&#8221; </p>
<p>For &#8220;liver pudding&#8221; for the cat, pour some out and put it in a pyrex baking dish with lid.</p>
<p>For &#8220;liver brownies&#8221; for the dog, then add a grain flour (I alternate between oatmeal, whole wheat, corn meal and rye flour &#8212; supposedly, there is less chance of canine grain allergies if you rotate grains) until you get a thick paste.  Grease a jelly roll pan and pour in the batter.</p>
<p>Bake both in a 325 degree oven (yes, it stinks up the house) until done (knife comes out clean in both).  Give as treats/supplements to main food.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 14:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Share the recipe!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Share the recipe!</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard J. (Bernie) Starzewski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernard J. (Bernie) Starzewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 14:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scout is particularly fond of McD&#039;s double cheeseburgers.  Two of those make a pretty hardy meal for him.

But I can appreciate the folks in &quot;reduced circumstances&quot;.

My mom used to buy the waste meat cuts like chicken necks and outdated (or nearly so) meats.  There are lots of trimmings and stuff that often go to waste that any dog would gobble up!  

The butchers at the grocery store got to know her and would put stuff aside for her.  It didnt cost much.  A whole meat product like that packs a lot more nutrition than the corn puffs you buy in those bags.  You dont have to go out of your way or break the bank to get this stuff.

I&#039;ve posted before that I think the whole &quot;pet food&quot; industry has marketed the idea that table scraps are bad for dogs INCLUDING the notion that somehow chicken bones are bad for them.  Except for very small breeds that dont have the choppers that Scoutie has the mushy bones of KFC or supermarket broasted (pressure cooked) chicken are little more than the proverbial &quot;rubber chicken&quot; and get chopped up with relish by any standard sized dog with good teeth.

I find that my dogs have eaten pretty much everything from left over pasta and spagetti to donuts and greatly prefer that to the meat cereal.  The greatest regret of my recent life was in fact deluding myself into thinking that I was doing some great favor for Brandy by buying her that Beef Cuts &amp; Gravy because he liked it so much.  Since then whenever possible and exept for a little free choice snack, Scout eats what I eat.

My wife (being a cheap German) still buys bag food for him but I am always happiest when he leaves it on his plate.  But even so, consumate cookie baker that she is she has a recipe for salmon biscuits that he loves so he eats some grain products too.

Frankly Id rather give him a bowl of generic Cheerios with milk than some thing that came out of a bag with a happy dog printed on it.

If you really love your dog (and who here doesnt?) you can find a way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scout is particularly fond of McD&#8217;s double cheeseburgers.  Two of those make a pretty hardy meal for him.</p>
<p>But I can appreciate the folks in &#8220;reduced circumstances&#8221;.</p>
<p>My mom used to buy the waste meat cuts like chicken necks and outdated (or nearly so) meats.  There are lots of trimmings and stuff that often go to waste that any dog would gobble up!  </p>
<p>The butchers at the grocery store got to know her and would put stuff aside for her.  It didnt cost much.  A whole meat product like that packs a lot more nutrition than the corn puffs you buy in those bags.  You dont have to go out of your way or break the bank to get this stuff.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve posted before that I think the whole &#8220;pet food&#8221; industry has marketed the idea that table scraps are bad for dogs INCLUDING the notion that somehow chicken bones are bad for them.  Except for very small breeds that dont have the choppers that Scoutie has the mushy bones of KFC or supermarket broasted (pressure cooked) chicken are little more than the proverbial &#8220;rubber chicken&#8221; and get chopped up with relish by any standard sized dog with good teeth.</p>
<p>I find that my dogs have eaten pretty much everything from left over pasta and spagetti to donuts and greatly prefer that to the meat cereal.  The greatest regret of my recent life was in fact deluding myself into thinking that I was doing some great favor for Brandy by buying her that Beef Cuts &amp; Gravy because he liked it so much.  Since then whenever possible and exept for a little free choice snack, Scout eats what I eat.</p>
<p>My wife (being a cheap German) still buys bag food for him but I am always happiest when he leaves it on his plate.  But even so, consumate cookie baker that she is she has a recipe for salmon biscuits that he loves so he eats some grain products too.</p>
<p>Frankly Id rather give him a bowl of generic Cheerios with milk than some thing that came out of a bag with a happy dog printed on it.</p>
<p>If you really love your dog (and who here doesnt?) you can find a way.</p>
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		<title>By: slt</title>
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		<dc:creator>slt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps too broad of a tangent to include in the same blog post, but I was thinking that even those who feed prepared pet food (kibble/canned) might be interested in learning if there are any products available which use only cage free eggs, humanely raised meat, etc.  Most product labels I&#039;ve read do not specify the conditions under which their protein sources are harvested in which case one might assume they are buying the cheapest available.  Maybe there are some products that do specify?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps too broad of a tangent to include in the same blog post, but I was thinking that even those who feed prepared pet food (kibble/canned) might be interested in learning if there are any products available which use only cage free eggs, humanely raised meat, etc.  Most product labels I&#8217;ve read do not specify the conditions under which their protein sources are harvested in which case one might assume they are buying the cheapest available.  Maybe there are some products that do specify?</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 17:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking for the Divine Miss C ... I know she has  out of state company and has told me she won&#039;t even be checking her e-mail this weekend (yeah, rightey-o on that, ha!). But I&#039;ll mention it to her when her company has left. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking for the Divine Miss C &#8230; I know she has  out of state company and has told me she won&#8217;t even be checking her e-mail this weekend (yeah, rightey-o on that, ha!). But I&#8217;ll mention it to her when her company has left.</p>
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