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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/02/24/ferrets-laws/#comment-355727</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have to say that the vast majority of pet ferrets are altered.  If you consider that a female ferret that is not mated will go into an extended heat leading to aplastic anemia and die.  An unaltered male will spray in your house just like an unaltered Tom cat plus the musk is overwhelming.  I just can't imagine anyone keeping unaltered ferrets as pets.  Also ferrets can't survive in extended temperatures above 85F.  Having no sweat glands makes regulating their already high body temperature impossible.  To think ferrets should be "controlled" is ignorant and quite ridiculous.  I'm sure that the same people that are fighting to uphold the ban on ferrets are also sulking nightly about the decriminalization of marijuana.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to say that the vast majority of pet ferrets are altered.  If you consider that a female ferret that is not mated will go into an extended heat leading to aplastic anemia and die.  An unaltered male will spray in your house just like an unaltered Tom cat plus the musk is overwhelming.  I just can&#8217;t imagine anyone keeping unaltered ferrets as pets.  Also ferrets can&#8217;t survive in extended temperatures above 85F.  Having no sweat glands makes regulating their already high body temperature impossible.  To think ferrets should be &#8220;controlled&#8221; is ignorant and quite ridiculous.  I&#8217;m sure that the same people that are fighting to uphold the ban on ferrets are also sulking nightly about the decriminalization of marijuana.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/02/24/ferrets-laws/#comment-335414</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up in Michigan with ferrets shortly after they were legalized.  The excuse that ferrets will escape and multiply is pure hogwash.  NO ONE buys unaltered ferrets unless they are a knowledgeable fancier who knows where to find a private breeder who will sell them one.  These people know enough to keep their ferrets from escaping.

I have my doubts as to whether any pet store ferret could survive in the wild long enough to start killing birds anyway.

Honestly if the remote possibility that a ferret might be capable of killing native wildlife is enough of a threat to ban them, pet cats should have been banned long ago.  We KNOW cats kill birds and small wild animals.  We KNOW that unneutered cats easily breed in the wild, producing feral colonies.  The cat is a bigger threat, but the ferret takes all the blame.  But this is kind of how it works with banning domestic animals in general--it's always stupid and full of double standards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up in Michigan with ferrets shortly after they were legalized.  The excuse that ferrets will escape and multiply is pure hogwash.  NO ONE buys unaltered ferrets unless they are a knowledgeable fancier who knows where to find a private breeder who will sell them one.  These people know enough to keep their ferrets from escaping.</p>
<p>I have my doubts as to whether any pet store ferret could survive in the wild long enough to start killing birds anyway.</p>
<p>Honestly if the remote possibility that a ferret might be capable of killing native wildlife is enough of a threat to ban them, pet cats should have been banned long ago.  We KNOW cats kill birds and small wild animals.  We KNOW that unneutered cats easily breed in the wild, producing feral colonies.  The cat is a bigger threat, but the ferret takes all the blame.  But this is kind of how it works with banning domestic animals in general&#8212;it&#8217;s always stupid and full of double standards.</p>
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		<title>By: Nona</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/02/24/ferrets-laws/#comment-235044</link>
		<dc:creator>Nona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 05:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found it most interesting to read the comments, especially those of Emily whom I assume is a kiwi.

In Australia, ferrets are banned in Queensland and the Northern Territory  -- both these states have cane toads jumping around, poisoning native fauna, as well as crocodiles munching on native fauna but for some bizarre reason they seem to think that a pet ferret, which escaped from a house, would somehow be a threat to native fauna.

Granted it's fairly cool in SE Qld but everywhere else is hot and humid and an escaped ferret would surely die if it got out in that climate.  That is, if it wasn't killed by a king brown (one of Australia's largest poisonous snakes) first!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found it most interesting to read the comments, especially those of Emily whom I assume is a kiwi.</p>
<p>In Australia, ferrets are banned in Queensland and the Northern Territory  &#8212; both these states have cane toads jumping around, poisoning native fauna, as well as crocodiles munching on native fauna but for some bizarre reason they seem to think that a pet ferret, which escaped from a house, would somehow be a threat to native fauna.</p>
<p>Granted it&#8217;s fairly cool in SE Qld but everywhere else is hot and humid and an escaped ferret would surely die if it got out in that climate.  That is, if it wasn&#8217;t killed by a king brown (one of Australia&#8217;s largest poisonous snakes) first!</p>
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		<title>By: H. Houlahan</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/02/24/ferrets-laws/#comment-234120</link>
		<dc:creator>H. Houlahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And how many of those nonexistent banned weasels are properly vaccinated?

The way to make an innocuous person or thing into a dangerous one is by driving it underground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And how many of those nonexistent banned weasels are properly vaccinated?</p>
<p>The way to make an innocuous person or thing into a dangerous one is by driving it underground.</p>
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		<title>By: JenniferJ</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/02/24/ferrets-laws/#comment-234107</link>
		<dc:creator>JenniferJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Legalize them and license them. Ten bucks maybe? The underground ferret owners I know would love to be able to go public and in conversation, not one has ever objected to paying a reasonable fee to do so. 

multiply 10-15 dollars times  10 to 15% the number of ferrets ALREADY HERE  (compliance is not likely to be better than it for dogs) and you could still bring in a chunk of change for municipalities or F&#38;G if they still want to maintain "control"

sorry I had to laugh at my last line there. A quarter of a million or more ferrets already in California, yep, the ban sure is working....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Legalize them and license them. Ten bucks maybe? The underground ferret owners I know would love to be able to go public and in conversation, not one has ever objected to paying a reasonable fee to do so. </p>
<p>multiply 10-15 dollars times  10 to 15% the number of ferrets ALREADY HERE  (compliance is not likely to be better than it for dogs) and you could still bring in a chunk of change for municipalities or F&amp;G if they still want to maintain &#8220;control&#8221;</p>
<p>sorry I had to laugh at my last line there. A quarter of a million or more ferrets already in California, yep, the ban sure is working&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/02/24/ferrets-laws/#comment-234102</link>
		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are sooo many things we don't really need in California that I'd have to say ferrets wouldn't even make my list of the top 1000. 

:)

Legalize 'em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are sooo many things we don&#8217;t really need in California that I&#8217;d have to say ferrets wouldn&#8217;t even make my list of the top 1000. </p>
<p>:)</p>
<p>Legalize &#8216;em.</p>
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		<title>By: Christie Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/02/24/ferrets-laws/#comment-234091</link>
		<dc:creator>Christie Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention, we already HAVE ferrets in California... 25 percent of all money spent on ferret supplies comes from this state. This is about bringing them out from underground, not about "introducing" them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention, we already HAVE ferrets in California&#8230; 25 percent of all money spent on ferret supplies comes from this state. This is about bringing them out from underground, not about &#8220;introducing&#8221; them.</p>
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		<title>By: Lis</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/02/24/ferrets-laws/#comment-234063</link>
		<dc:creator>Lis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I don’t see that it so crucial to have ferrets in California. That’s just my take on it. Other people no doubt think having a ferret is more important but it must, logically, be at some risk to wildlife even if it is only a small one.&lt;/i&gt;

And this is, in addition to the real differences in the ecological circumstances, is a major point of disagreement. You think that people should have to make the case that owning pet ferrets is "crucial." Most Americans think that, if you want to ban something, you should have to make the case for banning it. And make it with facts, not assumptions and must-bes and the belief that everyplace is essentially the same.

I live in a densely populated city in Massachusetts. Despite the dense human population, we have coyotes, redtail hawks, and oppossums in the immediate area of my house. What's the bigger threat to smaller mammals and birds in this area, do you think--the coyotes, hawks, and oppossums that are out there hunting every day, or the possibility that someone's pet ferret or pet cat might escape? In New Zealand, the impact of cats and ferrets on the native wildlife was due, in large part, to the fact that they were a whole new cateogory of predator that the native fauna had never evolved to cope with. In North America, mammalian predators in that size class, and larger and smaller, are &lt;i&gt;all over the place&lt;/i&gt;. Cats and ferrets, when they do escape, are prey as well as predators.

This is a very different situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I don’t see that it so crucial to have ferrets in California. That’s just my take on it. Other people no doubt think having a ferret is more important but it must, logically, be at some risk to wildlife even if it is only a small one.</i></p>
<p>And this is, in addition to the real differences in the ecological circumstances, is a major point of disagreement. You think that people should have to make the case that owning pet ferrets is &#8220;crucial.&#8221; Most Americans think that, if you want to ban something, you should have to make the case for banning it. And make it with facts, not assumptions and must-bes and the belief that everyplace is essentially the same.</p>
<p>I live in a densely populated city in Massachusetts. Despite the dense human population, we have coyotes, redtail hawks, and oppossums in the immediate area of my house. What&#8217;s the bigger threat to smaller mammals and birds in this area, do you think&#8212;the coyotes, hawks, and oppossums that are out there hunting every day, or the possibility that someone&#8217;s pet ferret or pet cat might escape? In New Zealand, the impact of cats and ferrets on the native wildlife was due, in large part, to the fact that they were a whole new cateogory of predator that the native fauna had never evolved to cope with. In North America, mammalian predators in that size class, and larger and smaller, are <i>all over the place</i>. Cats and ferrets, when they do escape, are prey as well as predators.</p>
<p>This is a very different situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Susie</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/02/24/ferrets-laws/#comment-234040</link>
		<dc:creator>Susie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Domesticated ferrets cannot survive in the wild and if they did they would become prey.  In New Zealand, ferrets mated with polecats, enabling them to exist in the wild.

From Wikipedia  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferret

 Where ferrets coexist with polecats, hybridization is common. It has been claimed that New Zealand has the world's largest feral population of ferret-polecat hybrids. In 1877, farmers in New Zealand demanded that ferrets be introduced into the country to control the rabbit population, which was also introduced by humans. Five ferrets were imported in 1879, and in 1882-1883, 32 shipments of ferrets were made from London, totaling 1,217 animals. Only 678 landed, and 198 were sent from Melbourne, Australia. On the voyage, the ferrets were mated with the European polecat, creating a number of hybrids that were capable of surviving in the wild. In 1884 and 1886, close to 4,000 ferrets and ferret hybrids, 3,099 weasels and 137 stoats were turned loose.[10] Concern was raised that these animals would eventually prey on indigenous wildlife once rabbit populations dropped, and this is exactly what happened to New Zealand bird species which previously had no mammalian predators. 

And as for Marshall Farms, I don't Like them.

Owner of 2 fun loving ferrets - Abby and Little Boy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Domesticated ferrets cannot survive in the wild and if they did they would become prey.  In New Zealand, ferrets mated with polecats, enabling them to exist in the wild.</p>
<p>From Wikipedia  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferret" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferret</a></p>
<p> Where ferrets coexist with polecats, hybridization is common. It has been claimed that New Zealand has the world&#8217;s largest feral population of ferret-polecat hybrids. In 1877, farmers in New Zealand demanded that ferrets be introduced into the country to control the rabbit population, which was also introduced by humans. Five ferrets were imported in 1879, and in 1882-1883, 32 shipments of ferrets were made from London, totaling 1,217 animals. Only 678 landed, and 198 were sent from Melbourne, Australia. On the voyage, the ferrets were mated with the European polecat, creating a number of hybrids that were capable of surviving in the wild. In 1884 and 1886, close to 4,000 ferrets and ferret hybrids, 3,099 weasels and 137 stoats were turned loose.[10] Concern was raised that these animals would eventually prey on indigenous wildlife once rabbit populations dropped, and this is exactly what happened to New Zealand bird species which previously had no mammalian predators. </p>
<p>And as for Marshall Farms, I don&#8217;t Like them.</p>
<p>Owner of 2 fun loving ferrets - Abby and Little Boy</p>
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		<title>By: emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pets would be a source for repopulation of feral ferrets, that is the reason for the ban.  I can only specualte but I should think there are some parts of California in similar need of protection.

I understand people differ on this but the fact is pet ferrets are not 100% neutered and they do escape--in fact they are better at escaping than most other pet species which is why I quite undeliberately ended up with several that I found will tramping.  So it comes down to weighing the value of people having ferrets as a legal pet option against the potential for environmental damage.

I don't see that it so crucial to have ferrets in California.  That's just my take on it.  Other people no doubt think having a ferret is more important but it must, logically, be at some risk to wildlife even if it is only a small one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pets would be a source for repopulation of feral ferrets, that is the reason for the ban.  I can only specualte but I should think there are some parts of California in similar need of protection.</p>
<p>I understand people differ on this but the fact is pet ferrets are not 100% neutered and they do escape&#8212;in fact they are better at escaping than most other pet species which is why I quite undeliberately ended up with several that I found will tramping.  So it comes down to weighing the value of people having ferrets as a legal pet option against the potential for environmental damage.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see that it so crucial to have ferrets in California.  That&#8217;s just my take on it.  Other people no doubt think having a ferret is more important but it must, logically, be at some risk to wildlife even if it is only a small one.</p>
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