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	<title>Comments on: Misery meat: Do you care how cattle (pigs, chickens) are treated?</title>
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		<title>By: Lara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor  animals!!!! Later when i grow up i&#039;m gonna stop them from beinh killed that way I PROMISE !!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor  animals!!!! Later when i grow up i&#8217;m gonna stop them from beinh killed that way I PROMISE !!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recommend reading &quot;Dominion&quot; by Matthew Scully for anyone who cares about animal welfare. The chapters on factory farming will leave you never looking at a pork chop the same way again. Should be on everyone&#039;s bookshelf right next to &quot;Redemption&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recommend reading &#8220;Dominion&#8221; by Matthew Scully for anyone who cares about animal welfare. The chapters on factory farming will leave you never looking at a pork chop the same way again. Should be on everyone&#8217;s bookshelf right next to &#8220;Redemption&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: H. Houlahan</title>
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		<dc:creator>H. Houlahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second the comment from Carol PW about buying at the 4H auction.

We did that for the first time this year -- a lamb.  I watched the kids and bid on an animal whose young owner showed good husbandry and handling skills, and I took some care in designating the custom butcher who would pick it up at the end of the fair.  It is the best lamb I&#039;ve ever had.

We want to get a bunch of families together next year and do the steer/pig/lamb group buying thing.

The 4H and FFA kids are great; I&#039;d rather be putting my consumer money into their college funds than ADM&#039;s bottom line.

I&#039;m getting most of my dog meat from a local custom butcher who grinds the &quot;other&quot; for dog food.  The animals come from small local farmers, and are mostly ones raised for home consumption.

Still hunting for a steady source of local small-farm humanely-raised poultry.  The way things look, it may end up being ... us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second the comment from Carol PW about buying at the 4H auction.</p>
<p>We did that for the first time this year &#8212; a lamb.  I watched the kids and bid on an animal whose young owner showed good husbandry and handling skills, and I took some care in designating the custom butcher who would pick it up at the end of the fair.  It is the best lamb I&#8217;ve ever had.</p>
<p>We want to get a bunch of families together next year and do the steer/pig/lamb group buying thing.</p>
<p>The 4H and FFA kids are great; I&#8217;d rather be putting my consumer money into their college funds than ADM&#8217;s bottom line.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m getting most of my dog meat from a local custom butcher who grinds the &#8220;other&#8221; for dog food.  The animals come from small local farmers, and are mostly ones raised for home consumption.</p>
<p>Still hunting for a steady source of local small-farm humanely-raised poultry.  The way things look, it may end up being &#8230; us.</p>
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		<title>By: Brenda Kirby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brenda Kirby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction to previous comment:  

 Third sentence from the end:   Was the real
 cause told, what was killing our pets?</description>
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<p> Third sentence from the end:   Was the real<br />
 cause told, what was killing our pets?</p>
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		<title>By: Brenda Kirby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brenda Kirby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 03:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the piece on Inside EditionIt was so sad.I have been researching rendering plants in my state of North Carolina. Is it possible
to get the truth.  A worker at a plant said dead cows, pigs, road kill, dogs &amp; cats from
animal shelters, basically anything dead no
matter what condition. The use of dogs and
cats from shelters was denied by one rendering plant and the NCDA.  This is a well kept secret by the NCDA.  These dead animals could
still have pesticides,insecticides, euthanasia
drugs,and who knows what else. Was the real cause told, what was killing.  I would like to
find out the truth and I would like my fellow
pet lover&#039;s to know too.  This would include a lot of residents of NC. I would welcome some input.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the piece on Inside EditionIt was so sad.I have been researching rendering plants in my state of North Carolina. Is it possible<br />
to get the truth.  A worker at a plant said dead cows, pigs, road kill, dogs &amp; cats from<br />
animal shelters, basically anything dead no<br />
matter what condition. The use of dogs and<br />
cats from shelters was denied by one rendering plant and the NCDA.  This is a well kept secret by the NCDA.  These dead animals could<br />
still have pesticides,insecticides, euthanasia<br />
drugs,and who knows what else. Was the real cause told, what was killing.  I would like to<br />
find out the truth and I would like my fellow<br />
pet lover&#8217;s to know too.  This would include a lot of residents of NC. I would welcome some input.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I first saw this footage on CNN this afternoon, and like VJ, I felt distressed - those animals had feelings.  I am afraid for the society around us, more and more we read of animal abuse. Yes, I eat meat, but expect it to be humanely euthanized. And, why are sick &quot;downer&quot; animals being put into the food supply?? USDA should be ashamed of itself.

Katie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I first saw this footage on CNN this afternoon, and like VJ, I felt distressed - those animals had feelings.  I am afraid for the society around us, more and more we read of animal abuse. Yes, I eat meat, but expect it to be humanely euthanized. And, why are sick &#8220;downer&#8221; animals being put into the food supply?? USDA should be ashamed of itself.</p>
<p>Katie</p>
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		<title>By: Carol PW</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol PW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I very much care about the source of my meat. I grew up eating steers that we raised, and when I went to college I stopped eating meat for years because none of it was worth putting in my mouth.

Don’t forget 4-H auctions as a source of local, humanely raised meat. They are lovely animals, the meat tastes wonderful, and it’s good for the kids (for some here it means college or not). Several of us get together to buy animals at the 4-H auction at the county fair in the fall, and I end up with a quarter steer, half a pig and a lamb in the freezer to get me (and the Dog) through the year. Watching while they are shown tells you how cosseted most of them have been; they have ribbons in their tails, polish on their hooves and some are tastefully glittered. We have a local custom butcher and get exactly the cuts we want.

Some may find it hard to look at and touch the animal they will be eating, but I’m used to knowing exactly whom I am eating and appreciate it all the more. Although when you buy the 1,000+ pound gorgeous and extraordinarily docile steer trailing a crying kid, it’s hard to know what to say when they come and thank you (they often give you home-made cookies and/or write thank-you notes too).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I very much care about the source of my meat. I grew up eating steers that we raised, and when I went to college I stopped eating meat for years because none of it was worth putting in my mouth.</p>
<p>Don’t forget 4-H auctions as a source of local, humanely raised meat. They are lovely animals, the meat tastes wonderful, and it’s good for the kids (for some here it means college or not). Several of us get together to buy animals at the 4-H auction at the county fair in the fall, and I end up with a quarter steer, half a pig and a lamb in the freezer to get me (and the Dog) through the year. Watching while they are shown tells you how cosseted most of them have been; they have ribbons in their tails, polish on their hooves and some are tastefully glittered. We have a local custom butcher and get exactly the cuts we want.</p>
<p>Some may find it hard to look at and touch the animal they will be eating, but I’m used to knowing exactly whom I am eating and appreciate it all the more. Although when you buy the 1,000+ pound gorgeous and extraordinarily docile steer trailing a crying kid, it’s hard to know what to say when they come and thank you (they often give you home-made cookies and/or write thank-you notes too).</p>
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		<title>By: Shelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for bringing attention to such an important subject Gina. Like you mentioned, not only is eating humanely more kind for the animals, it is also good for the planet. 

I too wanted to feed my &quot;kids&quot; humanely raised foods but (obviously) could not find a source for such on the market. This led me to making my own food for my dog and cats (boy did people think me nuts pre-recall!) and then later making it for friends and family once the recall happened. (They don&#039;t think me so crazy anymore. ha!) The demand has grown so naturally that I have started Circle of Life Pet Foods, a division of Pay It Forward Pets, LLC and though we are still very small and local we hope to create a trend in the market that shifts pet foods throughout the country to humanely raised. 

I feel confident that this is possible when I see large, public chains such as Wolfgang Puck&#039;s restaurants http://youtube.com/watch?v=YJd8_TYPu5Y   and Chipotle&#039;s Gourmet Burrito&#039;s shifting to humanely raised meats. We&#039;re off to a good start and it&#039;s inspiring to know you are helping to spread the word. Thanks for all you do for the animals everyday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for bringing attention to such an important subject Gina. Like you mentioned, not only is eating humanely more kind for the animals, it is also good for the planet. </p>
<p>I too wanted to feed my &#8220;kids&#8221; humanely raised foods but (obviously) could not find a source for such on the market. This led me to making my own food for my dog and cats (boy did people think me nuts pre-recall!) and then later making it for friends and family once the recall happened. (They don&#8217;t think me so crazy anymore. ha!) The demand has grown so naturally that I have started Circle of Life Pet Foods, a division of Pay It Forward Pets, LLC and though we are still very small and local we hope to create a trend in the market that shifts pet foods throughout the country to humanely raised. </p>
<p>I feel confident that this is possible when I see large, public chains such as Wolfgang Puck&#8217;s restaurants <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=YJd8_TYPu5Y" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=YJd8_TYPu5Y</a>   and Chipotle&#8217;s Gourmet Burrito&#8217;s shifting to humanely raised meats. We&#8217;re off to a good start and it&#8217;s inspiring to know you are helping to spread the word. Thanks for all you do for the animals everyday.</p>
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		<title>By: VJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>VJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the footage of the slaughterhouse on Inside Edition this afternoon and I cried. It is heart-rendering. Those animals have feelings. You could see their pain and distress. I&#039;m crying now. Lord, I am ashamed to be considered as part of the &quot;Human Race&quot; when I see atrocities such as this and of the animals abandoned because of foreclosures. One bright spot was a lady who took two abandoned dogs left in a house and just took them to care for them. Hooray for her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the footage of the slaughterhouse on Inside Edition this afternoon and I cried. It is heart-rendering. Those animals have feelings. You could see their pain and distress. I&#8217;m crying now. Lord, I am ashamed to be considered as part of the &#8220;Human Race&#8221; when I see atrocities such as this and of the animals abandoned because of foreclosures. One bright spot was a lady who took two abandoned dogs left in a house and just took them to care for them. Hooray for her.</p>
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		<title>By: JenniferJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JenniferJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grass fed beef and bison and lamb are becoming more commonly available in co-ops and natural food stores and some mainstream markets. Not only are they sustainably and humanely raised, they help save family farms and also help keep weeds and underbrush cleared, a big advantage for those of us living in fire country.

The biggest frustration and headache for many of these small producers is finding local and humane slaughter facilities. Raising meat locally then having to put the animals on a truck and send them hundreds of miles to a mass processing facility is counter-productive and stressful to the animals, a waste of fuel and a big expense to the niche producers raising the sheep, cattle etc...

Unfortunately attempts to build small scale local USDA qualified facilities (vital and required by law if humanely reared and slaughtered and above all local meat is to make it to the mainstream) always meet the NIMBY crowd (silly because in rural counties there are many places to put small facilities well away from residential or tourist areas) and huge opposition from hard core ARs who want all meat, happy or no, off the menu and making it too expensive to process helps their cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grass fed beef and bison and lamb are becoming more commonly available in co-ops and natural food stores and some mainstream markets. Not only are they sustainably and humanely raised, they help save family farms and also help keep weeds and underbrush cleared, a big advantage for those of us living in fire country.</p>
<p>The biggest frustration and headache for many of these small producers is finding local and humane slaughter facilities. Raising meat locally then having to put the animals on a truck and send them hundreds of miles to a mass processing facility is counter-productive and stressful to the animals, a waste of fuel and a big expense to the niche producers raising the sheep, cattle etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Unfortunately attempts to build small scale local USDA qualified facilities (vital and required by law if humanely reared and slaughtered and above all local meat is to make it to the mainstream) always meet the NIMBY crowd (silly because in rural counties there are many places to put small facilities well away from residential or tourist areas) and huge opposition from hard core ARs who want all meat, happy or no, off the menu and making it too expensive to process helps their cause.</p>
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