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	<title>Comments on: HSUS, AVAR form veterinary organization</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Billy</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/01/14/hsus-avar-form-new-veterinary-organization/#comment-225302</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 00:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is wonderful news! The AVMA has not been serving our pets and is too bogged down in bureaucracy.  It's time for a change.

Related blog post: http://vegtalk.blogspot.com/2008/02/humane-society-and-avar-join-forces.html.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is wonderful news! The AVMA has not been serving our pets and is too bogged down in bureaucracy.  It&#8217;s time for a change.</p>
<p>Related blog post: <a href="http://vegtalk.blogspot.com/2008/02/humane-society-and-avar-join-forces.html" rel="nofollow">http://vegtalk.blogspot.com/20.....orces.html</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/01/14/hsus-avar-form-new-veterinary-organization/#comment-211393</link>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've never been able to bring myself to do a RAVS trip because they are an HSUS program, but I've always felt bad about it... that maybe RAVS is only tangentially related to HSUS, that maybe you can have a good cause supported by funds from a not-so-good organization...

This certainly is a nail in the coffin for me. No RAVS, I will get surgical experiences elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never been able to bring myself to do a RAVS trip because they are an HSUS program, but I&#8217;ve always felt bad about it&#8230; that maybe RAVS is only tangentially related to HSUS, that maybe you can have a good cause supported by funds from a not-so-good organization&#8230;</p>
<p>This certainly is a nail in the coffin for me. No RAVS, I will get surgical experiences elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: deb</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/01/14/hsus-avar-form-new-veterinary-organization/#comment-211385</link>
		<dc:creator>deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe AHA also came out in favor of CA AB #1634.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe AHA also came out in favor of CA AB #1634.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/01/14/hsus-avar-form-new-veterinary-organization/#comment-211207</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 04:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE Comment by 2CatMom — January 14, 2008 @ 7:26 pm 

Beware, the AHA may well be pushing the "Asilomar Accords" which they've been promoting since 2004. This is different from Winograd's solution. Check out the chapter beginning on page 145 of Winograd's book to see what [as of mid 2007]the AHA was up to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE Comment by 2CatMom — January 14, 2008 @ 7:26 pm </p>
<p>Beware, the AHA may well be pushing the &#8220;Asilomar Accords&#8221; which they&#8217;ve been promoting since 2004. This is different from Winograd&#8217;s solution. Check out the chapter beginning on page 145 of Winograd&#8217;s book to see what [as of mid 2007]the AHA was up to.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/01/14/hsus-avar-form-new-veterinary-organization/#comment-211187</link>
		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2cat ... we got that, too. Not quite sure what to  make of it, but in any case it's good news to have more on board with no-kill, whatever they're calling it. 

As for the various groups, you BET it's confusing. And that's no accident. Advocacy groups want to be all things to all people, because the more you sway, the more will pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2cat &#8230; we got that, too. Not quite sure what to  make of it, but in any case it&#8217;s good news to have more on board with no-kill, whatever they&#8217;re calling it. </p>
<p>As for the various groups, you BET it&#8217;s confusing. And that&#8217;s no accident. Advocacy groups want to be all things to all people, because the more you sway, the more will pay.</p>
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		<title>By: 2CatMom</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/01/14/hsus-avar-form-new-veterinary-organization/#comment-211182</link>
		<dc:creator>2CatMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info on the organizations.  The reason I asked is that I received an email from the AHA promoting their version of No Kill.  At first I thought it was from the HSUS - then I realized it wasn't.  I don't know enough about AHA to know whether this is a sincere effort or just riding the No Kill bandwagon for donations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info on the organizations.  The reason I asked is that I received an email from the AHA promoting their version of No Kill.  At first I thought it was from the HSUS - then I realized it wasn&#8217;t.  I don&#8217;t know enough about AHA to know whether this is a sincere effort or just riding the No Kill bandwagon for donations.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/01/14/hsus-avar-form-new-veterinary-organization/#comment-211125</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder where they get the 11K number [of supporters of the HSUS] from. Maybe the number of different DVM’s who contacted them in any way, shape, or form? Or, as Gina suggested, checks from vets. 

In any case, I guess we can infer that if 11K veterinarians support them, then 69K don’t?

Sorry, while the intent might be good, I would have much preferred to have heard that this new organization was to be for the development of a collateral organization that would document DVM records, alerts, and create an “early warning system” so that DVM’s will never again be in the dark in the event of an epidemic.

Let's not forget that PETA is not for animal welfare, but rather their mission is geared towards animal rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder where they get the 11K number [of supporters of the HSUS] from. Maybe the number of different DVM’s who contacted them in any way, shape, or form? Or, as Gina suggested, checks from vets. </p>
<p>In any case, I guess we can infer that if 11K veterinarians support them, then 69K don’t?</p>
<p>Sorry, while the intent might be good, I would have much preferred to have heard that this new organization was to be for the development of a collateral organization that would document DVM records, alerts, and create an “early warning system” so that DVM’s will never again be in the dark in the event of an epidemic.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not forget that PETA is not for animal welfare, but rather their mission is geared towards animal rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/01/14/hsus-avar-form-new-veterinary-organization/#comment-211101</link>
		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>American Humane: http://www.americanhumane.org

ASPCA: http://www.aspca.org

Humane Society of the United States: http://www.hsus.org/

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals: http://www.peta.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American Humane: <a href="http://www.americanhumane.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanhumane.org</a></p>
<p>ASPCA: <a href="http://www.aspca.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.aspca.org</a></p>
<p>Humane Society of the United States: <a href="http://www.hsus.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hsus.org/</a></p>
<p>People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals: <a href="http://www.peta.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.peta.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2008/01/14/hsus-avar-form-new-veterinary-organization/#comment-211100</link>
		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no "American Humane Society." There's the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, which is a mostly local (NYC) sheltering and rescue organization with some national outreach programs. 

And there's the American Humane Association, which is interesting because its original purpose for formation was better treatment of CHILDREN and ANIMALS. (Still part of the program, although probably animal-related efforts are better known, and surely the word "humane" these days means "animals" to most people.)

The ASPCA (or the "A" as it's called) is the oldest. AHA next. HSUS is a relative newcomer, but arguably now along with PETA (and even more recently formed group) is the most influencial of the lot. 

We recommend reading deeply into the Web sites and annual tax filings of any charity or advocacy group, to ensure your donations are being spent wisely (programs over excutive salaries) and in line with your beliefs. Advocacy groups (and not just animal-related ones) often try to show different faces to different audiences, to maximize the donations. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no &#8220;American Humane Society.&#8221; There&#8217;s the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, which is a mostly local (NYC) sheltering and rescue organization with some national outreach programs. </p>
<p>And there&#8217;s the American Humane Association, which is interesting because its original purpose for formation was better treatment of CHILDREN and ANIMALS. (Still part of the program, although probably animal-related efforts are better known, and surely the word &#8220;humane&#8221; these days means &#8220;animals&#8221; to most people.)</p>
<p>The ASPCA (or the &#8220;A&#8221; as it&#8217;s called) is the oldest. AHA next. HSUS is a relative newcomer, but arguably now along with PETA (and even more recently formed group) is the most influencial of the lot. </p>
<p>We recommend reading deeply into the Web sites and annual tax filings of any charity or advocacy group, to ensure your donations are being spent wisely (programs over excutive salaries) and in line with your beliefs. Advocacy groups (and not just animal-related ones) often try to show different faces to different audiences, to maximize the donations.</p>
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		<title>By: 2CatMom</title>
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		<dc:creator>2CatMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone clarify the difference between the HSUS and the American Humane Society??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone clarify the difference between the HSUS and the American Humane Society??</p>
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