Comments on: Statewide no kill ballot measure proposed in California http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/10/03/califnokill/ Blogging by a team of pet-care experts. Tue, 07 Feb 2012 07:26:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Gailtrail http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/10/03/califnokill/comment-page-1/#comment-141321 Gailtrail Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:21:43 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/10/03/statewide-no-kill-ballot-measure-proposed-in-california/#comment-141321 Thank you! Bravo! How do we get 'The Pet Animal Protection Act' on a National Ballot? This needs to be a National mandate! I'll be linking to your site on my web site! We need to get this out to as many people as possible! Thank you! Bravo! How do we get ‘The Pet Animal Protection Act’ on a National Ballot? This needs to be a National mandate!

I’ll be linking to your site on my web site! We need to get this out to as many people as possible!

]]> By: Jennifer J http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/10/03/califnokill/comment-page-1/#comment-136008 Jennifer J Mon, 08 Oct 2007 01:35:50 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/10/03/statewide-no-kill-ballot-measure-proposed-in-california/#comment-136008 Hi Christie, OT but I just got home the BCA National Weekend and asked our Health Chair Re: the current status of the cystinuria research. Our charitable fund voted last year to support ongoing research but the current problem seems to be that AKC/CHF is simply not communicating well. Efforts are goiung to be made to get some answers as to the state of the research and what needs to be done to get it back on trck. I'll let you know when I do. ps, great article in SFGate Hi Christie, OT but I just got home the BCA National Weekend and asked our Health Chair Re: the current status of the cystinuria research. Our charitable fund voted last year to support ongoing research but the current problem seems to be that AKC/CHF is simply not communicating well. Efforts are goiung to be made to get some answers as to the state of the research and what needs to be done to get it back on trck. I’ll let you know when I do.
ps, great article in SFGate

]]> By: Ed Sky http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/10/03/califnokill/comment-page-1/#comment-135033 Ed Sky Fri, 05 Oct 2007 07:13:04 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/10/03/statewide-no-kill-ballot-measure-proposed-in-california/#comment-135033 Why is it that reasonable initiatives go to the public for a vote but unreasonable ones, like AB1634, go to the state legislature, circumventing the will of the people? I still feel like we escaped that one by the skin of our teeth! Why is it that reasonable initiatives go to the public for a vote but unreasonable ones, like AB1634, go to the state legislature, circumventing the will of the people?

I still feel like we escaped that one by the skin of our teeth!

]]> By: Bernard J. (Bernie) Starzewski http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/10/03/califnokill/comment-page-1/#comment-134951 Bernard J. (Bernie) Starzewski Fri, 05 Oct 2007 02:07:14 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/10/03/statewide-no-kill-ballot-measure-proposed-in-california/#comment-134951 Err... that should have been "...selling PET supplies..." dumb me! Err… that should have been “…selling PET supplies…” dumb me!

]]> By: Bernard J. (Bernie) Starzewski http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/10/03/califnokill/comment-page-1/#comment-134950 Bernard J. (Bernie) Starzewski Fri, 05 Oct 2007 02:06:19 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/10/03/statewide-no-kill-ballot-measure-proposed-in-california/#comment-134950 Here in Wisconsin I do not believe we have a law to this effect but locally the Humane Society shelters have essentially the same thing as their standard policy. It seems to work well for them but I know it take a great deal of effort and commitment. They try to raise funds in a variety of ways including selling put supplies and food. They also look for personal and business sponsors to pay for ads featuring pictures of orhapned pets. I got both my Brandy and little Scout there and they do a fine job. It might be worth contacting someone here to get some comments. The woman at the local shelter writes a collumn for our paper http://www.htrnews.com where you can also see the latest pet pics available. Here in Wisconsin I do not believe we have a law to this effect but locally the Humane Society shelters have essentially the same thing as their standard policy. It seems to work well for them but I know it take a great deal of effort and commitment.

They try to raise funds in a variety of ways including selling put supplies and food. They also look for personal and business sponsors to pay for ads featuring pictures of orhapned pets.

I got both my Brandy and little Scout there and they do a fine job. It might be worth contacting someone here to get some comments. The woman at the local shelter writes a collumn for our paper http://www.htrnews.com where you can also see the latest pet pics available.

]]> By: Jessica Hekman http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/10/03/califnokill/comment-page-1/#comment-134909 Jessica Hekman Thu, 04 Oct 2007 23:07:29 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/10/03/statewide-no-kill-ballot-measure-proposed-in-california/#comment-134909 There's a lot of really great stuff in there, but I'm worried that the consequences of some of the suggested mandates haven't been thought through. For example, the requirements for the ACO job are pretty strict. I'd love to see all ACOs be certified animal trainers, but it seems unrealistic to me to expect that to happen (I imagine chaos as 100% of the ACOs currently employed suddenly become unemployable). I also really don't like the idea of mandating how long a shelter must be open, in the case of non-profit shelters doing the best they can with limited resources. It's also not clear to me who's going to inspect shelters for non-compliance. I really do like the public accountability section (shelters have to publish statistics on how many animals they place vs kill). I'm not sure if I'd vote for this if I were a CA resident, but it's a step in the right direction. There’s a lot of really great stuff in there, but I’m worried that the consequences of some of the suggested mandates haven’t been thought through. For example, the requirements for the ACO job are pretty strict. I’d love to see all ACOs be certified animal trainers, but it seems unrealistic to me to expect that to happen (I imagine chaos as 100% of the ACOs currently employed suddenly become unemployable). I also really don’t like the idea of mandating how long a shelter must be open, in the case of non-profit shelters doing the best they can with limited resources.

It’s also not clear to me who’s going to inspect shelters for non-compliance.

I really do like the public accountability section (shelters have to publish statistics on how many animals they place vs kill).

I’m not sure if I’d vote for this if I were a CA resident, but it’s a step in the right direction.

]]> By: 2CatMom http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/10/03/califnokill/comment-page-1/#comment-134830 2CatMom Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:00:03 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/10/03/statewide-no-kill-ballot-measure-proposed-in-california/#comment-134830 Lis - oops! You're right. I didn't read this carefully enough. My bad! Lis - oops! You’re right. I didn’t read this carefully enough. My bad!

]]> By: Lis http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/10/03/califnokill/comment-page-1/#comment-134816 Lis Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:19:42 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/10/03/statewide-no-kill-ballot-measure-proposed-in-california/#comment-134816 Neonatal euthanasia is not the same thing as a spay/abortion. One's after the kittens are born; the other is before they're born. Dr. Khuly has misgivings about feline abortion, even though she finds it necessary in some circumstances; for that very reason, I seriously doubt she's in favor of euthanizing very young, but healthy, kittens for reasons of space. Neonatal euthanasia is not the same thing as a spay/abortion. One’s after the kittens are born; the other is before they’re born. Dr. Khuly has misgivings about feline abortion, even though she finds it necessary in some circumstances; for that very reason, I seriously doubt she’s in favor of euthanizing very young, but healthy, kittens for reasons of space.

]]> By: 2CatMom http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/10/03/califnokill/comment-page-1/#comment-134813 2CatMom Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:55:00 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/10/03/statewide-no-kill-ballot-measure-proposed-in-california/#comment-134813 On the surface it seems reasonable, but I'm a little concerned about the neonatal provision. Please see Doolittler's excellent blog on the subject: http://www.dolittler.com/index.cfm/2007/5/7/Feline-abortion-often-an-unnerving-necessity On the surface it seems reasonable, but I’m a little concerned about the neonatal provision. Please see Doolittler’s excellent blog on the subject: http://www.dolittler.com/index.....-necessity

]]> By: Gina Spadafori http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/10/03/califnokill/comment-page-1/#comment-134806 Gina Spadafori Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:25:53 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/10/03/statewide-no-kill-ballot-measure-proposed-in-california/#comment-134806 Of course, as we've seen in the McCarthy tactics used in response to your <a href=http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2007/10/02/petscol.DTL rel="nofollow">SFGate.com column</a> on the no-kill movement, it's clear that the mandatory spay-neuter advocates will not accept anything that doesn't follow what THEY want, even if it will help place more animals in loving homes. Sad. Of course, as we’ve seen in the McCarthy tactics used in response to your SFGate.com column on the no-kill movement, it’s clear that the mandatory spay-neuter advocates will not accept anything that doesn’t follow what THEY want, even if it will help place more animals in loving homes. Sad.

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