Comments on: The food? Or just the labels? http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/24/the-food-or-just-the-labels/ Blogging by a team of pet-care experts. Tue, 07 Feb 2012 07:26:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Barb http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/24/the-food-or-just-the-labels/comment-page-1/#comment-117299 Barb Thu, 30 Aug 2007 06:53:55 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/24/the-food-or-just-the-labels/#comment-117299 I tested my dogs ceramic water bowls for lead content and they were fine. However my dishes Apple Casuals made by China Pearl in China tested positive for lead content. I used one of those lead testing kits from Home Depot. I threw the dishes out. these are what they look like. http://www.replacements.com/webquote/CHPAPP.htm What about all the dog toys made in China almost every tag says made in China. How can we trust them in our dogs mouths? I tested my dogs ceramic water bowls for lead content and they were fine. However my dishes Apple Casuals made by China Pearl in China tested positive for lead content. I used one of those lead testing kits from Home Depot. I threw the dishes out. these are what they look like.

http://www.replacements.com/webquote/CHPAPP.htm

What about all the dog toys made in China almost every tag says made in China. How can we trust them in our dogs mouths?

]]> By: Pamela J. Betz-Baron http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/24/the-food-or-just-the-labels/comment-page-1/#comment-115819 Pamela J. Betz-Baron Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:39:38 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/24/the-food-or-just-the-labels/#comment-115819 Why would they think that anyone would trust a new sticker over an old label? We aren't that stupid. Why would they think that anyone would trust a new sticker over an old label? We aren’t that stupid.

]]> By: MaineMom http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/24/the-food-or-just-the-labels/comment-page-1/#comment-114937 MaineMom Mon, 27 Aug 2007 03:38:12 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/24/the-food-or-just-the-labels/#comment-114937 E. Hamilton - when the recall was in the beginning stages, I took printouts to two local vet's offices in the hope they would make copies and provide them to clients. In both offices (which I then patronized) I got a funny look and a "thanks" before they roundfilled them. I am sure both of these clinics depend on food sales to offset expenses. I've been extremly impressed and happy with the new multi-vet clinic (one of the largest in Northern CA) I switched to several months ago. But this is why a lot of very good doctors have gone to work at places like Kaiser in the last few years. They would rather treat patients than deal with the nuts and bolts of an office practice. E. Hamilton - when the recall was in the beginning stages, I took printouts to two local vet’s offices in the hope they would make copies and provide them to clients. In both offices (which I then patronized) I got a funny look and a “thanks” before they roundfilled them. I am sure both of these clinics depend on food sales to offset expenses.

I’ve been extremly impressed and happy with the new multi-vet clinic (one of the largest in Northern CA) I switched to several months ago.

But this is why a lot of very good doctors have gone to work at places like Kaiser in the last few years. They would rather treat patients than deal with the nuts and bolts of an office practice.

]]> By: MaineMom http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/24/the-food-or-just-the-labels/comment-page-1/#comment-114929 MaineMom Mon, 27 Aug 2007 03:19:24 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/24/the-food-or-just-the-labels/#comment-114929 Marianne, thanks for the information. I'm sure it's the same story here in California and everywhere else. 25% - explains why some sole-practice vets can stay in business though, and why I now go to a large multi-vet clinic that doesn't rely on pet food income. Marianne, thanks for the information. I’m sure it’s the same story here in California and everywhere else. 25% - explains why some sole-practice vets can stay in business though, and why I now go to a large multi-vet clinic that doesn’t rely on pet food income.

]]> By: Marianne http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/24/the-food-or-just-the-labels/comment-page-1/#comment-114765 Marianne Sun, 26 Aug 2007 22:21:47 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/24/the-food-or-just-the-labels/#comment-114765 Hi everyone. I was just reading this thread and I do agree that there are a lot of good vets out there - some bad and some indifferent. Did you know that approx. 25% of a vets office income comes from food? I just discovered that recently. That's a big percentage. Now in the interest of disclosure, I sell a holistic food called Pet Chef Express. As a matter of fact, we are the Ohio distributor for it. Since IAMS is made in Ohio, we take on the battle every day. It upsets me that even their "Natural" line contains by products in it. Yep, even after the recall, they have "Chicken by product meal" as the second ingredient and corn as the fourth. Regardless of the ingredients, IAMS (at least here in Ohio) has this contract with all the major pet organizations (Vets, Humane Societies, Shelters), that they supply food and MONEY (lots of it) to them. IAMS might as well buy these organizations because that's what they have done with this contract. We found out the Humane Society here in Dayton have two kittens they are trying to adopt out together. Since I know adopting out two is harder than one, I called the tv station (since I saw them on there) and offered to feed the kittens for six months once they are adopted (and even am before that) so they people would not have to worry about the added expense of food. I called today and agreed to supply the cat litter and treats too. TV station (big pet advocates) were thrilled, so was their foster mom (who works at the tv station and volunteers for the humane society). The tv station (FOX) asked me to come in and do the donation on air with the kittens present so the kittens get more exposure. The second in command at the HS was thrilled, even after I warned them to check their contract with IAMS. Regardless of how I feel about IAMS, I do not want to risk the Humane Society losing money to help care for the animals by all means. The director said "no" because of "Contractual agreements" with IAMS. Most vets won't speak out against them because of the kick backs they get from them. And I am sure it's the same with different parts of the country with other manufactorers. Humane Society employees won't buy the food, but the HS itself can't agree to carry other foods or tell people about it. In fact, the animal shelter here in Dayton had a truck full of Pedigree donated to them, but they can't do ANYTHING with it other than give it away. They can't even announce it. Hi everyone. I was just reading this thread and I do agree that there are a lot of good vets out there - some bad and some indifferent. Did you know that approx. 25% of a vets office income comes from food? I just discovered that recently. That’s a big percentage. Now in the interest of disclosure, I sell a holistic food called Pet Chef Express. As a matter of fact, we are the Ohio distributor for it. Since IAMS is made in Ohio, we take on the battle every day. It upsets me that even their “Natural” line contains by products in it. Yep, even after the recall, they have “Chicken by product meal” as the second ingredient and corn as the fourth. Regardless of the ingredients, IAMS (at least here in Ohio) has this contract with all the major pet organizations (Vets, Humane Societies, Shelters), that they supply food and MONEY (lots of it) to them. IAMS might as well buy these organizations because that’s what they have done with this contract. We found out the Humane Society here in Dayton have two kittens they are trying to adopt out together. Since I know adopting out two is harder than one, I called the tv station (since I saw them on there) and offered to feed the kittens for six months once they are adopted (and even am before that) so they people would not have to worry about the added expense of food. I called today and agreed to supply the cat litter and treats too. TV station (big pet advocates) were thrilled, so was their foster mom (who works at the tv station and volunteers for the humane society). The tv station (FOX) asked me to come in and do the donation on air with the kittens present so the kittens get more exposure. The second in command at the HS was thrilled, even after I warned them to check their contract with IAMS. Regardless of how I feel about IAMS, I do not want to risk the Humane Society losing money to help care for the animals by all means. The director said “no” because of “Contractual agreements” with IAMS. Most vets won’t speak out against them because of the kick backs they get from them. And I am sure it’s the same with different parts of the country with other manufactorers. Humane Society employees won’t buy the food, but the HS itself can’t agree to carry other foods or tell people about it. In fact, the animal shelter here in Dayton had a truck full of Pedigree donated to them, but they can’t do ANYTHING with it other than give it away. They can’t even announce it.

]]> By: Jill http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/24/the-food-or-just-the-labels/comment-page-1/#comment-114734 Jill Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:22:21 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/24/the-food-or-just-the-labels/#comment-114734 It has been since March and it is still going on what is WRONG? It has been since March and it is still going on what is WRONG?

]]> By: Jill http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/24/the-food-or-just-the-labels/comment-page-1/#comment-114733 Jill Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:21:13 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/24/the-food-or-just-the-labels/#comment-114733 I will ask everyone a BIG Question WHY are the stores relabeling the pet food to make it look as if the food is OK when it is NOT OK. WHY? Are they that stupid. I will ask everyone a BIG Question WHY are the stores relabeling the pet food to make it look as if the food is OK when it is NOT OK. WHY?
Are they that stupid.

]]> By: Jill http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/24/the-food-or-just-the-labels/comment-page-1/#comment-114720 Jill Sun, 26 Aug 2007 20:46:49 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/24/the-food-or-just-the-labels/#comment-114720 Where is Senator Durbin in all this? Where is help? Where is Senator Durbin in all this? Where is help?

]]> By: E. Hamilton http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/24/the-food-or-just-the-labels/comment-page-1/#comment-114663 E. Hamilton Sun, 26 Aug 2007 18:40:09 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/24/the-food-or-just-the-labels/#comment-114663 90% of pet owners are NOT gonna print out a page of recalled food or read on the internet about stickers over UPC codes. And while your individual vet may be a peach I HAVE done the research for EXACTLY how easy it would have been , at any time in the last 5 months, for a vet, ANY vet, to get public service TV time , to get the news about the symptoms of the poison out. All ANY one of them had to do was ask, that is it. Just ask. That easy. What hundreds, if not thousands, of grieving pet parents begged and pleaded to get for month after month was right there for the taking to a vet, at every and any TV station in this country. In fact, many TV stations say that the entire story would have gotten a lot more coverage if vets has asked for it. But, hey, people get what they are willing to put up with. The next time something like this poisoning happens, you will know what to expect. 90% of pet owners are NOT gonna print out a page of recalled food or read on the internet about stickers over UPC codes.

And while your individual vet may be a peach I HAVE done the research for EXACTLY how easy it would have been , at any time in the last 5 months, for a vet, ANY vet, to get public service TV time , to get the news about the symptoms of the poison out.
All ANY one of them had to do was ask, that is it.
Just ask.
That easy.

What hundreds, if not thousands, of grieving pet parents begged and pleaded to get for month after month was right there for the taking to a vet, at every and any TV station in this country. In fact, many TV stations say that the entire story would have gotten a lot more coverage if vets has asked for it.

But, hey, people get what they are willing to put up with. The next time something like this poisoning happens, you will know what to expect.

]]> By: Gina Spadafori http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/24/the-food-or-just-the-labels/comment-page-1/#comment-114639 Gina Spadafori Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:42:01 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/24/the-food-or-just-the-labels/#comment-114639 <p>Thank you all for the tip to FiestaWare. I'm in need of new casual China, and will now order from this company. Not only is it American, it's also beautiful stuff!</p> <p>OK, now ... how about linens?</p> Thank you all for the tip to FiestaWare. I’m in need of new casual China, and will now order from this company. Not only is it American, it’s also beautiful stuff!

OK, now … how about linens?

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