Comments on: The no recall recall http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/21/the-no-recall-recall/ Blogging by a team of pet-care experts led by Dr. Marty Becker. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:24:40 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Monica http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/21/the-no-recall-recall/comment-page-1/#comment-116268 Monica Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:13:04 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/21/the-no-recall-recall/#comment-116268 ALERT!! Purina Cat Chow... My friends two cats, in the last 2 days have made emergency vet trips - lots of tests - unexplained painful illness. Vet said to bag and save Cat Chow and change foods upon return home. The Vets Office called other area vets - YES, unexplained rash of illnesses in cats in the past week!! Is this another China Syndrome poisoning our cats!?! ALERT!! Purina Cat Chow…
My friends two cats, in the last 2 days have made emergency vet trips - lots of tests - unexplained painful illness. Vet said to bag and save Cat Chow and change foods upon return home. The Vets Office called other area vets - YES, unexplained rash of illnesses in cats in the past week!!
Is this another China Syndrome poisoning our cats!?!

]]> By: Trudy Jackson http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/21/the-no-recall-recall/comment-page-1/#comment-112050 Trudy Jackson Thu, 23 Aug 2007 01:13:30 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/21/the-no-recall-recall/#comment-112050 I have so many questions. Does this mean the material I buy to make clothes comes from china? If so, what can We wear? Then, where is Friskies in the can made? Just so much garbage. And on the local news today they said they are stopping the slautering of hogs at Smithfield Ham in Va.? Because of some disease, but I don't know what? That's just great. I have so many questions. Does this mean the material I buy to make clothes comes from china? If so, what can We wear?
Then, where is Friskies in the can made?
Just so much garbage.
And on the local news today they said they are stopping the slautering of hogs at Smithfield Ham in Va.? Because of some disease, but I don’t know what? That’s just great.

]]> By: H.A. http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/21/the-no-recall-recall/comment-page-1/#comment-111729 H.A. Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:33:58 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/21/the-no-recall-recall/#comment-111729 Kim, thanks. I read through all that and I'm going to call my vet to see if they can run tests on him to assess his kidney function. Luckily, I rationed the treats quite a bit; I would cut one strip into dime-sized pieces (he's a 50-lb Std. Schnauzer) and essentially fed one strip over the course of 2 days. I noticed that he had diarrhea on days when he got the treats and none on days he didn't, so I stopped giving them to him. I did have concerns when I saw they were made in China, but figured there wasn't much that could be "added" to sliced, cooked chicken. Esp. if it was irradiated to kill bacteria. Boy, was I wrong... Kim, thanks. I read through all that and I’m going to call my vet to see if they can run tests on him to assess his kidney function. Luckily, I rationed the treats quite a bit; I would cut one strip into dime-sized pieces (he’s a 50-lb Std. Schnauzer) and essentially fed one strip over the course of 2 days. I noticed that he had diarrhea on days when he got the treats and none on days he didn’t, so I stopped giving them to him. I did have concerns when I saw they were made in China, but figured there wasn’t much that could be “added” to sliced, cooked chicken. Esp. if it was irradiated to kill bacteria. Boy, was I wrong…

]]> By: Kim http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/21/the-no-recall-recall/comment-page-1/#comment-111529 Kim Wed, 22 Aug 2007 04:23:56 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/21/the-no-recall-recall/#comment-111529 H.A. - Lots of people reported similar reactions, I posted a few of the comments on my blog. (click my name) And Wal-Mart just announced that these 'treats' have Melamine in them... (Hi everyone...) H.A. - Lots of people reported similar reactions, I posted a few of the comments on my blog. (click my name)

And Wal-Mart just announced that these ‘treats’ have Melamine in them…

(Hi everyone…)

]]> By: E. Hamilton http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/21/the-no-recall-recall/comment-page-1/#comment-111475 E. Hamilton Wed, 22 Aug 2007 02:37:58 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/21/the-no-recall-recall/#comment-111475 Comment by MFEMFEM — August 21, 2007 @ 6:09 pm So what? Getting started now on the years of trudging through the process is better than waiting. If it takes years then it does, if the court dates last for decades so much the better! The pet food industry and the FDA can park their butts and the expensive lawyers butts on a court bench for years then. Being called liars and corrupt , for years, in court, might be GOOD for em. Years and years of mind numbing twists and turns through the court systems, think of the lies they will spew and how they will fume and stew at every new court case. Really, I am not seeing any down side. Throwing up my hands and saying there is nothing I can do is not something I am prepared to do. The boycotts are making an impact, the truth is getting out and forcing the lying jerks to show up in court, a lot, and get the lies on the record is better than leaving them run loose to do god knows what. Comment by MFEMFEM — August 21, 2007 @ 6:09 pm

So what? Getting started now on the years of trudging through the process is better than waiting. If it takes years then it does, if the court dates last for decades so much the better!

The pet food industry and the FDA can park their butts and the expensive lawyers butts on a court bench for years then. Being called liars and corrupt , for years, in court, might be GOOD for em. Years and years of mind numbing twists and turns through the court systems, think of the lies they will spew and how they will fume and stew at every new court case.
Really, I am not seeing any down side.

Throwing up my hands and saying there is nothing I can do is not something I am prepared to do.
The boycotts are making an impact, the truth is getting out and forcing the lying jerks to show up in court, a lot, and get the lies on the record is better than leaving them run loose to do god knows what.

]]> By: Dennis http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/21/the-no-recall-recall/comment-page-1/#comment-111447 Dennis Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:47:09 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/21/the-no-recall-recall/#comment-111447 Concerning the formaldehyde in the kids' pajamas, just the chemical exposure and reactions was bad, but how about this report: http://www.consumerist.com/consumer/chinese-poison-train/boy-catches-fire-after-wearing-pajamas-with-500-times-the-safe-level-of-formaldehyde-291690.php In the article, this three year old boy's PJs made in China and tainted with formaldehyde and having been washed at least 10 times caught the boy on FIRE when he sat too close to a gas heater. The boy received third degree burns from the jammies labeled "low fire danger". Concerning the formaldehyde in the kids’ pajamas, just the chemical exposure and reactions was bad, but how about this report:

http://www.consumerist.com/con.....291690.php

In the article, this three year old boy’s PJs made in China and tainted with formaldehyde and having been washed at least 10 times caught the boy on FIRE when he sat too close to a gas heater. The boy received third degree burns from the jammies labeled “low fire danger”.

]]> By: MFEMFEM http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/21/the-no-recall-recall/comment-page-1/#comment-111423 MFEMFEM Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:09:59 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/21/the-no-recall-recall/#comment-111423 "Comment by E. Hamilton — August 21, 2007 @ 5:55 pm" If you have ever had any experience with the federal courts and government agencies you would know that in most instances court orders go on for years if not decades, after the months or years it takes to get a lawsuit heard after appeals. Do a search of the agencies that are presently under consent decrees, etc. and you will find that decades are the norm. The courts are no Big Daddy either, and right now most of the federal courts are very pro-business thanks to the current crop of judicial appointees. Filing lawsuits is one tactic and it can have some benefit, but don't expect any real relief from the courts in our lifetime. The criminal route is faster, but do you really expect the Department of Justice to take the FDA to court - not in this lifetime. “Comment by E. Hamilton — August 21, 2007 @ 5:55 pm”

If you have ever had any experience with the federal courts and government agencies you would know that in most instances court orders go on for years if not decades, after the months or years it takes to get a lawsuit heard after appeals. Do a search of the agencies that are presently under consent decrees, etc. and you will find that decades are the norm. The courts are no Big Daddy either, and right now most of the federal courts are very pro-business thanks to the current crop of judicial appointees.

Filing lawsuits is one tactic and it can have some benefit, but don’t expect any real relief from the courts in our lifetime.

The criminal route is faster, but do you really expect the Department of Justice to take the FDA to court - not in this lifetime.

]]> By: E. Hamilton http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/21/the-no-recall-recall/comment-page-1/#comment-111417 E. Hamilton Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:55:16 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/21/the-no-recall-recall/#comment-111417 Fixing the blame is not the same as fixing the problem. How can it be fixed? Not debate and wait on the next administration, who will have other priorities, like putting THEIR buddies into the FDA to take bribes and screw over the people that who foot the bill, us. We are all buckled up for that ride anyway. How can it be fixed NOW? Waiting for a big daddy to save the pets, or us, aint working. We save ourselves and our loved ones from slow poison or it don't get done. Not even a big daddy democrat who came here asking for help that was given freely, bothered to say thanks or give a media release to stop the big 16 "official" deaths lie. He just blew us off soon as he got support for his agenda and media attention for HIM so you can probably expect the very same treatment from whoever steals the next election. Dealocrat or Repugnant, they will screw us over, count on it. Getting every pet organization to back Don Earl is a start, because a court supervised FDA is a heck of a lot better than a rogue agency that won't even answer the senate or the congress or give them documents. And THAT is the only way to get the FDA testing and reporting, on time or in the slam should be the judges motto, and under the watchful eye of the American public. I am ALL for voting in a whole new bunch of lying politicos, just for a change of the scenery. Letting pets die in agony every day while I wait years for some dig daddy politician to get around to solving the problems, not so much. Fixing the blame is not the same as fixing the problem.
How can it be fixed?
Not debate and wait on the next administration, who will have other priorities, like putting THEIR buddies into the FDA to take bribes and screw over the people that who foot the bill, us. We are all buckled up for that ride anyway.

How can it be fixed NOW?
Waiting for a big daddy to save the pets, or us, aint working. We save ourselves and our loved ones from slow poison or it don’t get done. Not even a big daddy democrat who came here asking for help that was given freely, bothered to say thanks or give a media release to stop the big 16 “official” deaths lie. He just blew us off soon as he got support for his agenda and media attention for HIM so you can probably expect the very same treatment from whoever steals the next election. Dealocrat or Repugnant, they will screw us over, count on it.

Getting every pet organization to back Don Earl is a start, because a court supervised FDA is a heck of a lot better than a rogue agency that won’t even answer the senate or the congress or give them documents.

And THAT is the only way to get the FDA testing and reporting, on time or in the slam should be the judges motto, and under the watchful eye of the American public.

I am ALL for voting in a whole new bunch of lying politicos, just for a change of the scenery. Letting pets die in agony every day while I wait years for some dig daddy politician to get around to solving the problems, not so much.

]]> By: MFEMFEM http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/21/the-no-recall-recall/comment-page-1/#comment-111387 MFEMFEM Tue, 21 Aug 2007 23:46:33 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/21/the-no-recall-recall/#comment-111387 Nutro cat food in pouches killed my beautiful six year old cat. He died a terrible, painful death. Nutro NEVER apologized and they never returned my telephine calls. They at first hid from the problem and then they became defensive. They treated me like dirt. I will NEVER buy a Nutro product again, or a product form any company that has/had any relationship with Menu Foods. Watch out for other companies that sell wet pet food, usually in pouches, some if it is made in China and even says so on the label in tiny print. Many of the "healthy, nutritious, enriched, natural, organic, wholesome, ... " claims are nothing but lies. Marketing lies to help sell garbage from China. Nutro cat food in pouches killed my beautiful six year old cat. He died a terrible, painful death. Nutro NEVER apologized and they never returned my telephine calls. They at first hid from the problem and then they became defensive. They treated me like dirt. I will NEVER buy a Nutro product again, or a product form any company that has/had any relationship with Menu Foods.

Watch out for other companies that sell wet pet food, usually in pouches, some if it is made in China and even says so on the label in tiny print. Many of the “healthy, nutritious, enriched, natural, organic, wholesome, … ” claims are nothing but lies. Marketing lies to help sell garbage from China.

]]> By: Jay http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/21/the-no-recall-recall/comment-page-1/#comment-111379 Jay Tue, 21 Aug 2007 23:34:37 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/08/21/the-no-recall-recall/#comment-111379 I was sad to see that Priority Brand (sold by Safeway) was not on the list below. Menu made it for them and stilkl so remember the brand as you will not find the name Menu, China, or putrid listed anywhere. The Defendants targeted in the Complaint produce pet foods under a wide array of brands and names including: Pedigree®, Sheba®, Goodlife Recipe®, Royal Canine, Iams®, Eukanuba®, Science Diet®, Prescription Diet®, 9 Lives®, Amore®, Gravy Train®, Kibbles-n-Bits® and Nature’s Recipe®, Snausages®, Milk Bone®, Pup-Peroni®, Meaty Bone®, Canine’s Carry Outs®, Jerky Treats®, Wagwells®, Alpo®, Beneful®, Beggin’ Strips®, Dog, Cat, Puppy and Kitten Chow®, Fancy Feast®, Friskies®, Mighty Dog®, Deli-Cat®, Pro Plan®, Purina One®, Natural Choice® Dog and Cat Products, Max® Dog Products, Max® Cat Gourmet Classics, Natural Choice® Complete Care® for cats, Ultra™ Products for dogs, Americas Choice Preferred Pets, Authority, Award, Best Choice, Big Bet, Big Red, Cadillac, Companion, Compliments, Demoulus Market Basket, Eukanuba, Fine Feline Cat, Food Lion, Food Town, Giant Companion, Hannaford, Hill Country Fare, Hy-Vee, Iams, J.E. Mondou, Laura Lynn, Li’l Red, Loving Meals, Medi-Cal, Meijer’s Main Choice, Mighty Dog Pouch, Mixables, Natural Life, Nutriplan, Nutro Max, Nutro Max Gourmet Classics, Nutro Natural Choice, Ol’ Roy, Paws, Pet Essentials, Pet Pride, President’s Choice, Price Chopper, Priority US, Publix, Roche Brothers, Save-a-Lot Special Blend, Schnucks, Science Diet Feline Savory Cuts Cans, Sophistacat, Special Kitty, Springfield Prize, Sprout, Stop and Shop Companion, Tops Companion, Wegmans, Weis Total Pet, Western family US, White Rose, Winn Dixie, Your Pet, LIFELong™, Ol’ Roy and Special Kitty brands of pet food. All of these brands should be on a no-buy list. I was sad to see that Priority Brand (sold by Safeway) was not on the list below. Menu made it for them and stilkl so remember the brand as you will not find the name Menu, China, or putrid listed anywhere.

The Defendants targeted in the Complaint produce pet foods under a wide array of brands and names including: Pedigree®, Sheba®, Goodlife Recipe®, Royal Canine, Iams®, Eukanuba®, Science Diet®, Prescription Diet®, 9 Lives®, Amore®, Gravy Train®, Kibbles-n-Bits® and Nature’s Recipe®, Snausages®, Milk Bone®, Pup-Peroni®, Meaty Bone®, Canine’s Carry Outs®, Jerky Treats®, Wagwells®, Alpo®, Beneful®, Beggin’ Strips®, Dog, Cat, Puppy and Kitten Chow®, Fancy Feast®, Friskies®, Mighty Dog®, Deli-Cat®, Pro Plan®, Purina One®, Natural Choice® Dog and Cat Products, Max® Dog Products, Max® Cat Gourmet Classics, Natural Choice® Complete Care® for cats, Ultra™ Products for dogs, Americas Choice Preferred Pets, Authority, Award, Best Choice, Big Bet, Big Red, Cadillac, Companion, Compliments, Demoulus Market Basket, Eukanuba, Fine Feline Cat, Food Lion, Food Town, Giant Companion, Hannaford, Hill Country Fare, Hy-Vee, Iams, J.E. Mondou, Laura Lynn, Li’l Red, Loving Meals, Medi-Cal, Meijer’s Main Choice, Mighty Dog Pouch, Mixables, Natural Life, Nutriplan, Nutro Max, Nutro Max Gourmet Classics, Nutro Natural Choice, Ol’ Roy, Paws, Pet Essentials, Pet Pride, President’s Choice, Price Chopper, Priority US, Publix, Roche Brothers, Save-a-Lot Special Blend, Schnucks, Science Diet Feline Savory Cuts Cans, Sophistacat, Special Kitty, Springfield Prize, Sprout, Stop and Shop Companion, Tops Companion, Wegmans, Weis Total Pet, Western family US, White Rose, Winn Dixie, Your Pet, LIFELong™, Ol’ Roy and Special Kitty brands of pet food.

All of these brands should be on a no-buy list.

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