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	<title>Comments on: Six-toed cats vs. the U.S. Department of Ag</title>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/29/six-toed-cats-vs-federal-beauracracy/comment-page-1/#comment-101439</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 01:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some activist have very strange motives . Some would like to see the end of pets and all farm animals we would all be vegans . I was with one once at a meeting and she started telling about this idea . She was telling it to a group of dairy farmers. 

The USDA would be better off enforcing the Animal Welfare Act esp. surrounding the hell holes called puppy mills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some activist have very strange motives . Some would like to see the end of pets and all farm animals we would all be vegans . I was with one once at a meeting and she started telling about this idea . She was telling it to a group of dairy farmers. </p>
<p>The USDA would be better off enforcing the Animal Welfare Act esp. surrounding the hell holes called puppy mills.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/29/six-toed-cats-vs-federal-beauracracy/comment-page-1/#comment-100947</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Methinks Schultz needs a straightjacket. Talk about idiotic thinking.

As for the USDA......if they haven&#039;t got anything better to do with their time than make a huge case out of this, then they should also be straightjacketed. 

Is there no one able to see the big picture anymore?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Methinks Schultz needs a straightjacket. Talk about idiotic thinking.</p>
<p>As for the USDA&#8230;&#8230;if they haven&#8217;t got anything better to do with their time than make a huge case out of this, then they should also be straightjacketed. </p>
<p>Is there no one able to see the big picture anymore?</p>
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		<title>By: straybaby</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/29/six-toed-cats-vs-federal-beauracracy/comment-page-1/#comment-100933</link>
		<dc:creator>straybaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why aren&#039;t the activists caging the feral cats? basically they are caring for them in a similar manner as the Hemingway cats, except the Hemingway cats are receiving better care. Don&#039;t the ferals risk death also by running free and even less contained than the Hemingways?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why aren&#8217;t the activists caging the feral cats? basically they are caring for them in a similar manner as the Hemingway cats, except the Hemingway cats are receiving better care. Don&#8217;t the ferals risk death also by running free and even less contained than the Hemingways?</p>
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		<title>By: The OTHER Pat</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/29/six-toed-cats-vs-federal-beauracracy/comment-page-1/#comment-100925</link>
		<dc:creator>The OTHER Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by steve a — July 30, 2007 @ 11:45 am 

&quot;A number of those cats were quite talented and there was a bit of an act put on for the sunset crowd to support the feeding station.&quot;

Are you referring here to Debra Schultz (the activist who&#039;s setting up feral feeding stations and trapping the Hemingway cats)?  Or do you mean the museum is putting on the &quot;sunset act&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by steve a — July 30, 2007 @ 11:45 am </p>
<p>&#8220;A number of those cats were quite talented and there was a bit of an act put on for the sunset crowd to support the feeding station.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you referring here to Debra Schultz (the activist who&#8217;s setting up feral feeding stations and trapping the Hemingway cats)?  Or do you mean the museum is putting on the &#8220;sunset act&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: steve a</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/29/six-toed-cats-vs-federal-beauracracy/comment-page-1/#comment-100894</link>
		<dc:creator>steve a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve visited the place.  I have to recommend seeing the sunset at Key West if you have the chance.  I parked near the estate and walked past it on my way to lands end...

I have indoor cats, sympathize with the Clara situation, and always worry about cats wandering in the yard...

Nontheless, cats are smart.  In this case it is the government and the activists causing a hazard to the cats.  Expecting a nightborhood cat not to show up at a neighborhood feeding station is a bit like expecting a politician to avoid a good PR situation.

Chip them, or tatoo the ear, so they are not picked up along with the - certainly many loose cats - in that part of Key West...

A number of those cats were quite talented and there was a bit of an act put on for the sunset crowd to support the feeding station.

Certainly we should cage the activists and politicians to keep everyone safe from them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve visited the place.  I have to recommend seeing the sunset at Key West if you have the chance.  I parked near the estate and walked past it on my way to lands end&#8230;</p>
<p>I have indoor cats, sympathize with the Clara situation, and always worry about cats wandering in the yard&#8230;</p>
<p>Nontheless, cats are smart.  In this case it is the government and the activists causing a hazard to the cats.  Expecting a nightborhood cat not to show up at a neighborhood feeding station is a bit like expecting a politician to avoid a good PR situation.</p>
<p>Chip them, or tatoo the ear, so they are not picked up along with the - certainly many loose cats - in that part of Key West&#8230;</p>
<p>A number of those cats were quite talented and there was a bit of an act put on for the sunset crowd to support the feeding station.</p>
<p>Certainly we should cage the activists and politicians to keep everyone safe from them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The OTHER Pat</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/29/six-toed-cats-vs-federal-beauracracy/comment-page-1/#comment-100871</link>
		<dc:creator>The OTHER Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this blog that sheds some interesting additional angles:

http://catdefender.blogspot.com/2007/07/cat-behaviorist-is-summoned-to-key-west.html

Not sure I agree with everything he says, but it&#039;s an interesting article nevertheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this blog that sheds some interesting additional angles:</p>
<p><a href="http://catdefender.blogspot.com/2007/07/cat-behaviorist-is-summoned-to-key-west.html" rel="nofollow">http://catdefender.blogspot.co.....-west.html</a></p>
<p>Not sure I agree with everything he says, but it&#8217;s an interesting article nevertheless.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea 2CatMom</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/29/six-toed-cats-vs-federal-beauracracy/comment-page-1/#comment-100859</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea 2CatMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know just who these so-called Animal Activists are?  What&#039;s their goal?  Put them in cages or in a shelter?  

I too have been to Hemmingway&#039;s house, and those cats are healthy, well taken care of, and pretty mellow for the most part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know just who these so-called Animal Activists are?  What&#8217;s their goal?  Put them in cages or in a shelter?  </p>
<p>I too have been to Hemmingway&#8217;s house, and those cats are healthy, well taken care of, and pretty mellow for the most part.</p>
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		<title>By: Compcat</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/29/six-toed-cats-vs-federal-beauracracy/comment-page-1/#comment-100833</link>
		<dc:creator>Compcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like the museum could put up some cat fencing netting (practically invisible, not permanent) around the compound, and meet the requirements of the USDA. The Purrfect fence company needs to contact this museum. Otherwise, you&#039;d just run the place like you do a safari park, and I assume this is being done already to prevent visitors from stealing cats.  Since it&#039;s not a permanent addition, I&#039;d think the fence wouldn&#039;t affect the house&#039;s status, but they&#039;d have to negotiate that with the historical society.  The cats would be protected from animal activists (a real concern), but wouldn&#039;t have their routines altered one wit.

The USDA inspectors that I dealt with at an old job were happy to see cats kept in shelter situations with room to roam, as opposed to the smaller cages.  All the USDA has required in this instance is that the cats be in escape proof areas, which should stop activists from getting them killed.  The rules in the Animal Protection Act cover how large an enclosure must be (minimum size), but I don&#039;t remember a maximum size limit.  

The first USDA contact with the museum that insisted that small kennels must be used sort of messed up on that one.  I doubt the San Diego Wildlife park is rounding up the zebras every night, after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like the museum could put up some cat fencing netting (practically invisible, not permanent) around the compound, and meet the requirements of the USDA. The Purrfect fence company needs to contact this museum. Otherwise, you&#8217;d just run the place like you do a safari park, and I assume this is being done already to prevent visitors from stealing cats.  Since it&#8217;s not a permanent addition, I&#8217;d think the fence wouldn&#8217;t affect the house&#8217;s status, but they&#8217;d have to negotiate that with the historical society.  The cats would be protected from animal activists (a real concern), but wouldn&#8217;t have their routines altered one wit.</p>
<p>The USDA inspectors that I dealt with at an old job were happy to see cats kept in shelter situations with room to roam, as opposed to the smaller cages.  All the USDA has required in this instance is that the cats be in escape proof areas, which should stop activists from getting them killed.  The rules in the Animal Protection Act cover how large an enclosure must be (minimum size), but I don&#8217;t remember a maximum size limit.  </p>
<p>The first USDA contact with the museum that insisted that small kennels must be used sort of messed up on that one.  I doubt the San Diego Wildlife park is rounding up the zebras every night, after all.</p>
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		<title>By: The OTHER Pat</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/29/six-toed-cats-vs-federal-beauracracy/comment-page-1/#comment-100783</link>
		<dc:creator>The OTHER Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by PM Hill — July 29, 2007 @ 9:12 pm

&quot;The Hemingway cats are better taken care of than many pets. Dept of Ag, please put my taxpayer $’s to better use protecting our food supply!&quot;

Comment by Deb — July 30, 2007 @ 3:00 am

&quot;Hasn’t the USDA got better things to do, like monitoring puppymills to make sure they’re in compliance with the Pet Welfare Act?

Yup, the same operations that would be the ONLY ones allowed under the recently shelved AB1634 in California.

I keep thinking about how skewed this all is.  Let&#039;s take the cats and put them all in little wire cages because some animal activists decided this was somehow &quot;better&quot; for them.  Let&#039;s outlaw Responsible Breeders whose dogs live with them in their homes as valued family members and only permit commercial operations that treat dogs as $$$-producing commodities.

Are things messed up or what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by PM Hill — July 29, 2007 @ 9:12 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;The Hemingway cats are better taken care of than many pets. Dept of Ag, please put my taxpayer $’s to better use protecting our food supply!&#8221;</p>
<p>Comment by Deb — July 30, 2007 @ 3:00 am</p>
<p>&#8220;Hasn’t the USDA got better things to do, like monitoring puppymills to make sure they’re in compliance with the Pet Welfare Act?</p>
<p>Yup, the same operations that would be the ONLY ones allowed under the recently shelved AB1634 in California.</p>
<p>I keep thinking about how skewed this all is.  Let&#8217;s take the cats and put them all in little wire cages because some animal activists decided this was somehow &#8220;better&#8221; for them.  Let&#8217;s outlaw Responsible Breeders whose dogs live with them in their homes as valued family members and only permit commercial operations that treat dogs as $$$-producing commodities.</p>
<p>Are things messed up or what?</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh holy hairball Catman! Hasn&#039;t the USDA got better things to do, like monitoring puppymills to make sure they&#039;re in compliance with the Pet Welfare Act?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh holy hairball Catman! Hasn&#8217;t the USDA got better things to do, like monitoring puppymills to make sure they&#8217;re in compliance with the Pet Welfare Act?</p>
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