Comments on: The law tries to cope with internet puppies http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/09/the-law-tries-to-cope-with-internet-puppies/ Blogging by a team of pet-care experts led by Dr. Marty Becker. Sun, 21 Mar 2010 01:24:49 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: My Pup too http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/09/the-law-tries-to-cope-with-internet-puppies/comment-page-1/#comment-92241 My Pup too Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:37:39 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/09/the-law-tries-to-cope-with-internet-puppies/#comment-92241 I rescued a pup on Saturday. I was told by the organization she was in good health. They said she may have been exposed to kennel cough but she had been treated. By Tuesday we were in the Doggy ER with double pneumonia. Turns out she had not been treated. She is getting better but her bills will be in the thousands. This couple were new to dogs. How could they know the dog was not just having "adjustment problems" as the breeder said. As for a "practice child" although few people are aware they are doing it, we have a tendency to assess out partners parenting skills before reproducing. Does it matter any way? The breeder committed a number of crimes including fraud. These places should be shut down. But to imply that one is assured a healthy dog from a pound or a rescue organization is way off base. Good luck to the Ostranders. I rescued a pup on Saturday. I was told by the organization she was in good health. They said she may have been exposed to kennel cough but she had been treated. By Tuesday we were in the Doggy ER with double pneumonia. Turns out she had not been treated. She is getting better but her bills will be in the thousands. This couple were new to dogs. How could they know the dog was not just having “adjustment problems” as the breeder said. As for a “practice child” although few people are aware they are doing it, we have a tendency to assess out partners parenting skills before reproducing. Does it matter any way? The breeder committed a number of crimes including fraud. These places should be shut down. But to imply that one is assured a healthy dog from a pound or a rescue organization is way off base. Good luck to the Ostranders.

]]> By: Nightmare http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/09/the-law-tries-to-cope-with-internet-puppies/comment-page-1/#comment-91131 Nightmare Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:39:24 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/09/the-law-tries-to-cope-with-internet-puppies/#comment-91131 Lis- I read the original articles on this case, some months ago. The Ostranders bought the dog to be their 'practice child.' Once it became ill, with vomiting and bloody diarrhea, they waited THREE DAYS to take it to the vet. They did not have the puppy shipped, they picked it out in person, and saw the conditions of the kennel. Yes, they spent a lot of money trying to save the puppy and yes, that kennel NEEDS to be shut down, BUT these people need to do some serious thinking before getting another dog, much less have a child. I have known more than one person who spent a ton of money on a pet because they felt guilty for not taking it to the vet sooner. They don't get my sympathy, either. Lis- I read the original articles on this case, some months ago. The Ostranders bought the dog to be their ‘practice child.’ Once it became ill, with vomiting and bloody diarrhea, they waited THREE DAYS to take it to the vet. They did not have the puppy shipped, they picked it out in person, and saw the conditions of the kennel. Yes, they spent a lot of money trying to save the puppy and yes, that kennel NEEDS to be shut down, BUT these people need to do some serious thinking before getting another dog, much less have a child. I have known more than one person who spent a ton of money on a pet because they felt guilty for not taking it to the vet sooner. They don’t get my sympathy, either.

]]> By: Diane http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/09/the-law-tries-to-cope-with-internet-puppies/comment-page-1/#comment-90774 Diane Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:56:16 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/09/the-law-tries-to-cope-with-internet-puppies/#comment-90774 Actually, you're right, I hadn't thought of it that way. Just out of curiosity last night, I checked the website of some of those chains that sell puppies...they're pretty convincing. Actually, you’re right, I hadn’t thought of it that way. Just out of curiosity last night, I checked the website of some of those chains that sell puppies…they’re pretty convincing.

]]> By: North Penn Puppy Mill Watch (NPPMWATCH) http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/09/the-law-tries-to-cope-with-internet-puppies/comment-page-1/#comment-90735 North Penn Puppy Mill Watch (NPPMWATCH) Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:50:06 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/09/the-law-tries-to-cope-with-internet-puppies/#comment-90735 The judge has ruled! The Motion for Summary Judgement has been DISMISSED and the trial WILL continue in the Garden State!! Details at nppmwatch.com on the homepage under 'NEWS.' The judge has ruled!

The Motion for Summary Judgement has been DISMISSED and the trial WILL continue in the Garden State!!

Details at nppmwatch.com on the homepage under ‘NEWS.’

]]> By: Andrea 2CatMom http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/09/the-law-tries-to-cope-with-internet-puppies/comment-page-1/#comment-90624 Andrea 2CatMom Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:26:45 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/09/the-law-tries-to-cope-with-internet-puppies/#comment-90624 I do feel sorry for the Ostranders. I think of all the times I've looked at the back of Cat Fancy and seen the ads for 'kittens raised loveingly in home" or web site featuring beautiful cats - how can you know what's really going on. What galls me is that PA passed a law specifically because of this breeder and they're still in business? I do feel sorry for the Ostranders. I think of all the times I’ve looked at the back of Cat Fancy and seen the ads for ‘kittens raised loveingly in home” or web site featuring beautiful cats - how can you know what’s really going on.

What galls me is that PA passed a law specifically because of this breeder and they’re still in business?

]]> By: Lis http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/09/the-law-tries-to-cope-with-internet-puppies/comment-page-1/#comment-90556 Lis Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:25:34 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/09/the-law-tries-to-cope-with-internet-puppies/#comment-90556 Lots of well-meaning people don't realize--until they get burned like this--that they _need_ to do research to buy a puppy. And if you don't know any better, "commercial kennel" actually sounds better than "hobby breeder." As for the vomiting, etc.: obviously they questioned it immediately; that's how the millers got the chance to tell them it was "normal adjustment." Initially, they believed the people they'd bought the puppy from. They figured out that that was a mistake. They took the pup to a vet, and spent a substantial amount on its care, trying to save it. And if those who get suckered by puppy millers can't sue them, then who has standing to sue? Should the puppy millers get off the hook because we in our superior wisdom sneer at the gullibility of the victims of their deceit? Lots of well-meaning people don’t realize—until they get burned like this—that they _need_ to do research to buy a puppy. And if you don’t know any better, “commercial kennel” actually sounds better than “hobby breeder.”

As for the vomiting, etc.: obviously they questioned it immediately; that’s how the millers got the chance to tell them it was “normal adjustment.” Initially, they believed the people they’d bought the puppy from.

They figured out that that was a mistake. They took the pup to a vet, and spent a substantial amount on its care, trying to save it.

And if those who get suckered by puppy millers can’t sue them, then who has standing to sue? Should the puppy millers get off the hook because we in our superior wisdom sneer at the gullibility of the victims of their deceit?

]]> By: Diane http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/09/the-law-tries-to-cope-with-internet-puppies/comment-page-1/#comment-90280 Diane Tue, 10 Jul 2007 02:30:57 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/09/the-law-tries-to-cope-with-internet-puppies/#comment-90280 I'm sorry, I feel sorry for the poor puppy but I can't muster much sympathy for the Ostranders. If they bought from a kennel with that kind of reputation, they must have done little or no research before they plunked down their credit card. And they believed vomiting and diarrhea in a puppy are normal?? The phrase "Caveat Emptor" comes to mind. Incidentally, I bet a shelter closer to home could have provided a "labradoodle" or "poodrador" or whatever kind of mixed breed dog they'd be happy with, for a lot less money. I’m sorry, I feel sorry for the poor puppy but I can’t muster much sympathy for the Ostranders. If they bought from a kennel with that kind of reputation, they must have done little or no research before they plunked down their credit card. And they believed vomiting and diarrhea in a puppy are normal?? The phrase “Caveat Emptor” comes to mind.

Incidentally, I bet a shelter closer to home could have provided a “labradoodle” or “poodrador” or whatever kind of mixed breed dog they’d be happy with, for a lot less money.

]]> By: thomas http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/09/the-law-tries-to-cope-with-internet-puppies/comment-page-1/#comment-90221 thomas Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:02:34 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/09/the-law-tries-to-cope-with-internet-puppies/#comment-90221 these people have a bad reputation under their old kennel name Puppy Love for selling sick puppies.They should have been shut down a long time ago . They turn to selling puppys on the internet,and nothing has changed they are still selling sick puppies. I hope the judge rules they can be held accountable in New Jersey as they advertised there via the inter net. these people have a bad reputation under their old kennel name Puppy Love for selling sick puppies.They should have been shut down a long time ago . They turn to selling puppys on the internet,and nothing has changed they are still selling sick puppies. I hope the judge rules they can be held accountable in New Jersey as they advertised there via the inter net.

]]> By: straybaby http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/09/the-law-tries-to-cope-with-internet-puppies/comment-page-1/#comment-90142 straybaby Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:05:19 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/09/the-law-tries-to-cope-with-internet-puppies/#comment-90142 we have a puppy lemon law here also. i wonder how old the pup was when shipped? don't they have to be 8wks to cross state lines? hopefully the other complaints/history will help to decide they can be sued. i'm not a big lawsuit person, but if this can help hold these puppy sellers accountable, i say bring it on! we have a puppy lemon law here also.

i wonder how old the pup was when shipped? don’t they have to be 8wks to cross state lines? hopefully the other complaints/history will help to decide they can be sued. i’m not a big lawsuit person, but if this can help hold these puppy sellers accountable, i say bring it on!

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