Comments on: Breeding for disaster http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/05/breeding-for-disaster/ Blogging by a team of pet-care experts led by Dr. Marty Becker. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 00:03:35 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: expat http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/05/breeding-for-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-89161 expat Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:52:52 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/05/breeding-for-disaster/#comment-89161 Teerierman has a large number of good posts on this topic, here is one link that shows several of the relevant posts: http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/search?q=genetic+%2Bbreeding Teerierman has a large number of good posts on this topic, here is one link that shows several of the relevant posts:

http://terriermandotcom.blogsp.....2Bbreeding

]]> By: expat http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/05/breeding-for-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-89152 expat Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:37:52 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/05/breeding-for-disaster/#comment-89152 Terrierman has many good posts on this topic, here are two: http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2007/03/cruelty-row-on-eve-of-crufts.html http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2006/05/inbred-thinking.html Terrierman has many good posts on this topic, here are two:

http://terriermandotcom.blogsp.....rufts.html

http://terriermandotcom.blogsp.....nking.html

]]> By: MaKo http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/05/breeding-for-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-89149 MaKo Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:20:33 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/05/breeding-for-disaster/#comment-89149 ... I once saw a Persian cat, that was breathtakingly beautiful .... a lion's mane, totally royal, longer hair, but the rest was *cat* with a face and wonderful cat-eyes. That was at a biologist's station - he concentrated on 'back-breeding', mostly cats: Siamese with a body (slender, but a body) who didn't look like the cross between a bat and a greyhound, Persians that looked like cats, only just more beautiful, and other wonderful animals. Too bad that so many people see their salvation in breeding animals to a standard that is questionable, to say the least, without seeing the animal as a whole. In my very unpopular, very politically incorrect opinion, I presume that some of those people do substitution 'beauty': "I myself may look like something the cat dragged in, but my cats win beauty prizes all over the place...." What's the proper English expression for that? Pathetic? … I once saw a Persian cat, that was breathtakingly beautiful …. a lion’s mane, totally royal, longer hair, but the rest was *cat* with a face and wonderful cat-eyes.

That was at a biologist’s station - he concentrated on ‘back-breeding’, mostly cats: Siamese with a body (slender, but a body) who didn’t look like the cross between a bat and a greyhound, Persians that looked like cats, only just more beautiful, and other wonderful animals.

Too bad that so many people see their salvation in breeding animals to a standard that is questionable, to say the least, without seeing the animal as a whole.

In my very unpopular, very politically incorrect opinion, I presume that some of those people do substitution ‘beauty’: “I myself may look like something the cat dragged in, but my cats win beauty prizes all over the place….”

What’s the proper English expression for that? Pathetic?

]]> By: shibadiva http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/05/breeding-for-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-89040 shibadiva Fri, 06 Jul 2007 11:23:34 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/05/breeding-for-disaster/#comment-89040 What's next? Genetically engineered Shar-pei's from Monsanto? What’s next? Genetically engineered Shar-pei’s from Monsanto?

]]> By: The OTHER Pat http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/05/breeding-for-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-88736 The OTHER Pat Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:58:08 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/05/breeding-for-disaster/#comment-88736 And we had a reader on another thread refer to that inclusion as a "common sense" addition. There is SO much these people just don't get . . . . . And we had a reader on another thread refer to that inclusion as a “common sense” addition.

There is SO much these people just don’t get . . . . .

]]> By: Deanna http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/05/breeding-for-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-88733 Deanna Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:49:10 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/05/breeding-for-disaster/#comment-88733 One intact bitch and dog permit per household for the purpose of allowing one litter to be bred as soon as they are physically capable (equivalent to middle-schoolers having babies) (I'm paraphrasing from the amendment)... Oh God, shoot me now! Let's encourage backyard breeders! And discourage the breeders that keep a few intact from a litter (who might be co-owned and live in a different household), waiting for maybe one of them to mature into something worthy of being bred on (i.e. healthy, intelligent, good temperament) to the appropriate dog or bitch which is likely several states away or across the country. No, we don't need to be encouraging that. And forget about letting them get mature enough for health clearances. I couldn't read the bill any further than those provisions. I was too depressed. One intact bitch and dog permit per household for the purpose of allowing one litter to be bred as soon as they are physically capable (equivalent to middle-schoolers having babies) (I’m paraphrasing from the amendment)… Oh God, shoot me now! Let’s encourage backyard breeders! And discourage the breeders that keep a few intact from a litter (who might be co-owned and live in a different household), waiting for maybe one of them to mature into something worthy of being bred on (i.e. healthy, intelligent, good temperament) to the appropriate dog or bitch which is likely several states away or across the country. No, we don’t need to be encouraging that. And forget about letting them get mature enough for health clearances.

I couldn’t read the bill any further than those provisions. I was too depressed.

]]> By: thomas http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/05/breeding-for-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-88727 thomas Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:21:10 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/05/breeding-for-disaster/#comment-88727 Lets not forget the so called Designer dogs being bred by puppy mills. Cock-a-poos, labra-doodles, pug jack russel crosses, pug beagle crosses, peke-a-poos and the list goes on. The puppy mills in the finger lakes prosper because people pay from $500 to $1500. for a mixed breed dog.The parents of these mix suffer horribly , a live time of females bred every heat. If people want to buy from a puppy mill ask to see where the dogs are kept, if they won't show you don't buy. If they do show you were you bothered by what you saw?The groups that need to be more regulated are pet stores and puppy mills. Lets not forget the so called Designer dogs being bred by puppy mills. Cock-a-poos, labra-doodles, pug jack russel crosses, pug beagle crosses, peke-a-poos and the list goes on. The puppy mills in the finger lakes prosper because people pay from $500 to $1500. for a mixed breed dog.The parents of these mix suffer horribly , a live time of females bred every heat. If people want to buy from a puppy mill ask to see where the dogs are kept, if they won’t show you don’t buy. If they do show you were you bothered by what you saw?The groups that need to be more regulated are pet stores and puppy mills.

]]> By: Schnauzer http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/05/breeding-for-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-88722 Schnauzer Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:39:34 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/05/breeding-for-disaster/#comment-88722 Well yes sometimes it's anything to make a buck, but sometimes it almost like an anorexic. By that I mean the breeder can't see when enough is enough. "More" whatever won't "improve" the breed. You see little dogs getting littler, big dogs getting bigger, GSD getting more and more sloped, corgis and doxies getting longer and lower... And it's a crying shame. My vet calls Shar peis "the doggy dermatalagist's dream dog"... Well yes sometimes it’s anything to make a buck, but sometimes it almost like an anorexic. By that I mean the breeder can’t see when enough is enough. “More” whatever won’t “improve” the breed. You see little dogs getting littler, big dogs getting bigger, GSD getting more and more sloped, corgis and doxies getting longer and lower… And it’s a crying shame. My vet calls Shar peis “the doggy dermatalagist’s dream dog”…

]]> By: Carol http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/05/breeding-for-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-88704 Carol Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:05:07 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/05/breeding-for-disaster/#comment-88704 This is beyond pathetic. What is wrong with people today? I adopted a little Persian kitten in January from a wonderful rescue organization in Alabama. The "breeder" let these Persians and Himalayans breed indiscriminately (over 200) and live in deplorable conditions until the humane society got involved. Hopefully the breeder is in jail now. Jezebelle is only 5 lbs (full grown) with the flat flace and severe digestive problems. Others have the same problems. I imagine it will be a struggle to keep her going but she is loving and feisty. Guess people will stoop to anything to make a buck. This is beyond pathetic. What is wrong with people today? I adopted a little Persian kitten in January from a wonderful rescue organization in Alabama. The “breeder” let these Persians and Himalayans breed indiscriminately (over 200) and live in deplorable conditions until the humane society got involved. Hopefully the breeder is in jail now. Jezebelle is only 5 lbs (full grown) with the flat flace and severe digestive problems. Others have the same problems. I imagine it will be a struggle to keep her going but she is loving and feisty. Guess people will stoop to anything to make a buck.

]]> By: Katherine http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/05/breeding-for-disaster/comment-page-1/#comment-88702 Katherine Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:02:54 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/07/05/breeding-for-disaster/#comment-88702 P.S. I like the modest proposal; I like rats. I also can't have them; my cats do know how to hunt and what to do with what they catch. P.S. I like the modest proposal; I like rats. I also can’t have them; my cats do know how to hunt and what to do with what they catch.

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