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		<title>By: Maureen</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/06/27/aspcas-toxicologists-acetaminophen-fears-unfounded/comment-page-2/#comment-86716</link>
		<dc:creator>Maureen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an important story, I think everyone will agree. Many who read and post here have paid a heavy price along with their beloved cats and dogs. This article signals the beginning of small positive changes, at least in the marketplace. From Sunday&#039;s New York Times (free registration):

Companies in U.S. Increase Testing of Chinese Goods
   
By NELSON D. SCHWARTZ
Published: July 1, 2007

General Mills, Kellogg, Toys “R” Us and other big American companies are increasing their scrutiny of thousands of everyday products they receive from Chinese suppliers, as widening recalls of items like toys and toothpaste force them to focus on potential hazards that were overlooked in the past.

These corporations are stepping up their analysis of imported goods that they sell, making more unannounced visits to Chinese factories for inspections and, in one case, pulling merchandise from American shelves at the first hint of a problem.

General Mills, which makes food products like Pillsbury dough and Chex cereals, is testing for potential contaminants that it did not look for previously, although it would not name the substances. Kellogg has increased its use of outside services that scrutinize Chinese suppliers and has identified alternative suppliers if vital ingredients become unavailable.(...)

“We’re thinking in new ways about this,” said Tom Forsythe, a spokesman for General Mills. “We’re looking for things we didn’t look for in the past.”

A Kellogg spokeswoman, Kris Charles, confirmed that retailers had asked whether the company used ingredients from China that were banned by the Food and Drug Administration in the United States, including wheat gluten and soy protein.

The company had not, Ms. Charles said, but Kellogg took the extra step of scrutinizing the ingredients that it does import from China, like vitamins, honey, cinnamon, water chestnuts and freeze-dried strawberries. It also screened its Chinese suppliers for links to the recent pet food recall.(...)

Fusing fear of China’s growing economic power with worries about food safety, politicians like Mr. Brown and Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York, have made it clear that food safety is an issue that resonates with voters.

“We’re saying to business, ‘You better protect yourself because right now neither the Chinese government nor the American government is doing a very good job of protecting you,’ ” Mr. Schumer said.(...)

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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/01/business/01imports.html?hp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an important story, I think everyone will agree. Many who read and post here have paid a heavy price along with their beloved cats and dogs. This article signals the beginning of small positive changes, at least in the marketplace. From Sunday&#8217;s New York Times (free registration):</p>
<p>Companies in U.S. Increase Testing of Chinese Goods</p>
<p>By NELSON D. SCHWARTZ<br />
Published: July 1, 2007</p>
<p>General Mills, Kellogg, Toys “R” Us and other big American companies are increasing their scrutiny of thousands of everyday products they receive from Chinese suppliers, as widening recalls of items like toys and toothpaste force them to focus on potential hazards that were overlooked in the past.</p>
<p>These corporations are stepping up their analysis of imported goods that they sell, making more unannounced visits to Chinese factories for inspections and, in one case, pulling merchandise from American shelves at the first hint of a problem.</p>
<p>General Mills, which makes food products like Pillsbury dough and Chex cereals, is testing for potential contaminants that it did not look for previously, although it would not name the substances. Kellogg has increased its use of outside services that scrutinize Chinese suppliers and has identified alternative suppliers if vital ingredients become unavailable.(&#8230;)</p>
<p>“We’re thinking in new ways about this,” said Tom Forsythe, a spokesman for General Mills. “We’re looking for things we didn’t look for in the past.”</p>
<p>A Kellogg spokeswoman, Kris Charles, confirmed that retailers had asked whether the company used ingredients from China that were banned by the Food and Drug Administration in the United States, including wheat gluten and soy protein.</p>
<p>The company had not, Ms. Charles said, but Kellogg took the extra step of scrutinizing the ingredients that it does import from China, like vitamins, honey, cinnamon, water chestnuts and freeze-dried strawberries. It also screened its Chinese suppliers for links to the recent pet food recall.(&#8230;)</p>
<p>Fusing fear of China’s growing economic power with worries about food safety, politicians like Mr. Brown and Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York, have made it clear that food safety is an issue that resonates with voters.</p>
<p>“We’re saying to business, ‘You better protect yourself because right now neither the Chinese government nor the American government is doing a very good job of protecting you,’ ” Mr. Schumer said.(&#8230;)</p>
<p>&#8212;more&#8212;<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/01/business/01imports.html?hp" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07.....ts.html?hp</a></p>
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		<title>By: 'reader Mike'</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/06/27/aspcas-toxicologists-acetaminophen-fears-unfounded/comment-page-2/#comment-86618</link>
		<dc:creator>'reader Mike'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 16:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of us blogs regulars and comment writers and readers agree FDA has been less than honest and open over the entire history of this event. On numerous times FDA has declined to identify companies and/or suppliers.  We all remember during one of the phone tele-conferences when Christie Keith asked about a particular recall which was just then breaking during the conference. They talked about it after she asked, in the Q &amp; A phase, but not up front, and they HAD to have known beforehand because companies are required by law to inform FDA when they&#039;re doing a recall. That&#039;s just one instance.
The media largely feel the investigative phase of the story is over. 
There is ONE place where this is still &#039;not over&#039; -- its Congress. The SECOND &quot;Diminished Capacity: Can the FDA Protect the Food Supply&quot; hearing of the House Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations is scheduled to come up soon. Some in Congress are already as disgusted with FDA officials as we are: Remember Dingell and Stupak had to threaten subpoenas to get info, DeLauro threatened to zero out FDA top dogs salaries, Durbin and Cantwell wrote a letter and tried to embarrass FDA by sharing with the media, asking FDA to identify the unnamed second importer of RPC.  If there&#039;s one thing Sens and Reps don&#039;t take well it&#039;s Fedl agency people dis-ing their authority. This is where we all have to go with this folks, BEFORE the second hearing takes place, we need to demand of the House subcom that they take a more complete look at the FDA&#039;s dragging their feet and lack of openness throughout all this. The media feels this is over, the House is still open for business.
I&#039;m asking everyone here to join me and write House Committee Chair Rep John Dingell, Speaker Nancy Pelosi and demand that they conduct a more in depth review of FDA actions in this. Rep Rosa DeLauro also because she&#039;s already on record with discontent. And also you own Rep if he or she is on either Dingell&#039;s committee or Stupak&#039;s subcom,  Dem or Repub doesn&#039;t matter. The more of them we can enlist the better. Point out for them correctly every instance where FDA has withheld info.... go back through the &#039;live-blogs&#039; and transcripts. Remind them that Dingell and Stupak had to make theats to get questions answered. (I have concerns about Corn-Gluten and Cyanuric Acid still, and I notice one common ingredient among the foods that have tested positive for C/A is C-G, and I believe FDA may woke up to this too late, so now just doesn&#039;t want to persue it any further). 
Mail you concerns to all of the above. It&#039;s not over in the House. This hearing is supposed to take place soon, and regular mail with security concerns may not make it in time, so its better in addition to regular mail to FAX it also. Thanks all, mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of us blogs regulars and comment writers and readers agree FDA has been less than honest and open over the entire history of this event. On numerous times FDA has declined to identify companies and/or suppliers.  We all remember during one of the phone tele-conferences when Christie Keith asked about a particular recall which was just then breaking during the conference. They talked about it after she asked, in the Q &amp; A phase, but not up front, and they HAD to have known beforehand because companies are required by law to inform FDA when they&#8217;re doing a recall. That&#8217;s just one instance.<br />
The media largely feel the investigative phase of the story is over.<br />
There is ONE place where this is still &#8216;not over&#8217; &#8212; its Congress. The SECOND &#8220;Diminished Capacity: Can the FDA Protect the Food Supply&#8221; hearing of the House Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations is scheduled to come up soon. Some in Congress are already as disgusted with FDA officials as we are: Remember Dingell and Stupak had to threaten subpoenas to get info, DeLauro threatened to zero out FDA top dogs salaries, Durbin and Cantwell wrote a letter and tried to embarrass FDA by sharing with the media, asking FDA to identify the unnamed second importer of RPC.  If there&#8217;s one thing Sens and Reps don&#8217;t take well it&#8217;s Fedl agency people dis-ing their authority. This is where we all have to go with this folks, BEFORE the second hearing takes place, we need to demand of the House subcom that they take a more complete look at the FDA&#8217;s dragging their feet and lack of openness throughout all this. The media feels this is over, the House is still open for business.<br />
I&#8217;m asking everyone here to join me and write House Committee Chair Rep John Dingell, Speaker Nancy Pelosi and demand that they conduct a more in depth review of FDA actions in this. Rep Rosa DeLauro also because she&#8217;s already on record with discontent. And also you own Rep if he or she is on either Dingell&#8217;s committee or Stupak&#8217;s subcom,  Dem or Repub doesn&#8217;t matter. The more of them we can enlist the better. Point out for them correctly every instance where FDA has withheld info&#8230;. go back through the &#8216;live-blogs&#8217; and transcripts. Remind them that Dingell and Stupak had to make theats to get questions answered. (I have concerns about Corn-Gluten and Cyanuric Acid still, and I notice one common ingredient among the foods that have tested positive for C/A is C-G, and I believe FDA may woke up to this too late, so now just doesn&#8217;t want to persue it any further).<br />
Mail you concerns to all of the above. It&#8217;s not over in the House. This hearing is supposed to take place soon, and regular mail with security concerns may not make it in time, so its better in addition to regular mail to FAX it also. Thanks all, mike</p>
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		<title>By: Kristi</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/06/27/aspcas-toxicologists-acetaminophen-fears-unfounded/comment-page-2/#comment-86320</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 01:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed the dry Lamb &amp; Rice dog food comes up as causing poisoning sypmtoms across the spectrum of dog food companies. I was feeding a dry Lamb &amp; Rice kibble as well - Nature&#039;s Recipe - symptoms hit w/new bag in January, just like Dee, Donna and Linda experienced. My girl actually seemed to become afraid of her food. The bouts of pain, blood in stools, refusal to eat or drink, bowel incontenence were awful to suffer through. I don&#039;t want to ever go through a January and February like that again. I&#039;m feeding homemade with Orijen kibble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed the dry Lamb &amp; Rice dog food comes up as causing poisoning sypmtoms across the spectrum of dog food companies. I was feeding a dry Lamb &amp; Rice kibble as well - Nature&#8217;s Recipe - symptoms hit w/new bag in January, just like Dee, Donna and Linda experienced. My girl actually seemed to become afraid of her food. The bouts of pain, blood in stools, refusal to eat or drink, bowel incontenence were awful to suffer through. I don&#8217;t want to ever go through a January and February like that again. I&#8217;m feeding homemade with Orijen kibble.</p>
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		<title>By: Trudy Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/06/27/aspcas-toxicologists-acetaminophen-fears-unfounded/comment-page-2/#comment-86302</link>
		<dc:creator>Trudy Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maureen, I don&#039;t know how but write to Me and i&#039;ll send you the article. then maybe you can put it up? Thanks, 
magesticats@net-change.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maureen, I don&#8217;t know how but write to Me and i&#8217;ll send you the article. then maybe you can put it up? Thanks,<br />
<a href="mailto:magesticats@net-change.com">magesticats@net-change.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/06/27/aspcas-toxicologists-acetaminophen-fears-unfounded/comment-page-2/#comment-86270</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, now why would Hills give such a large grant to U.C.Davis????

My Mercy started leaking urine and with high liver enzymes until I was told she had liver disease - she&#039;s three years old and was otherwise healthy - I was feeding her Hills SD Lamb and Rice.....go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, now why would Hills give such a large grant to U.C.Davis????</p>
<p>My Mercy started leaking urine and with high liver enzymes until I was told she had liver disease - she&#8217;s three years old and was otherwise healthy - I was feeding her Hills SD Lamb and Rice&#8230;..go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: Maureen</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/06/27/aspcas-toxicologists-acetaminophen-fears-unfounded/comment-page-2/#comment-86267</link>
		<dc:creator>Maureen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from Trudy:If this has already been put up, i’m sorry. But if not, check this out-
http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu......fm/id=1357

Trudy, I get a &quot;website can&#039;t be found&quot; message when I click on this. Could you copy and paste?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from Trudy:If this has already been put up, i’m sorry. But if not, check this out-<br />
<a href="http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu......fm/id=1357" rel="nofollow">http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu&.....fm/id=1357</a></p>
<p>Trudy, I get a &#8220;website can&#8217;t be found&#8221; message when I click on this. Could you copy and paste?</p>
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		<title>By: Trudy Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/06/27/aspcas-toxicologists-acetaminophen-fears-unfounded/comment-page-2/#comment-86265</link>
		<dc:creator>Trudy Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it was about all the money Hills is giving to UC Davis. So, you do have to wonder?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it was about all the money Hills is giving to UC Davis. So, you do have to wonder?</p>
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		<title>By: Trudy Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/06/27/aspcas-toxicologists-acetaminophen-fears-unfounded/comment-page-2/#comment-86264</link>
		<dc:creator>Trudy Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this has already been put up, i&#039;m sorry. But if not, check this out-
http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu.whatsnew/article2.cfm/id=1357</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this has already been put up, i&#8217;m sorry. But if not, check this out-<br />
<a href="http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu.whatsnew/article2.cfm/id=1357" rel="nofollow">http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu......fm/id=1357</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sandi K</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/06/27/aspcas-toxicologists-acetaminophen-fears-unfounded/comment-page-2/#comment-86236</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandi K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought that UCD did find something wrong – I just can’t remember what it was now – they found the melamine didn’t they in some unrecalled food???
Comment by Linda — June 28, 2007 @ 8:11 pm 

Linda,  its my understanding that UC Davis was the lab that tested Nutro food at the request of the vet and pet owner in California.  This wet canned food had not been recalled, Nutro kept saying that food was fine and then her cat fell ill.  The vet sent the food to UC Davis and they found melamine in it.  One day later, I think on 4-10, the food was recalled, almost a month after the first recalls of 3-16.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought that UCD did find something wrong – I just can’t remember what it was now – they found the melamine didn’t they in some unrecalled food???<br />
Comment by Linda — June 28, 2007 @ 8:11 pm </p>
<p>Linda,  its my understanding that UC Davis was the lab that tested Nutro food at the request of the vet and pet owner in California.  This wet canned food had not been recalled, Nutro kept saying that food was fine and then her cat fell ill.  The vet sent the food to UC Davis and they found melamine in it.  One day later, I think on 4-10, the food was recalled, almost a month after the first recalls of 3-16.</p>
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		<title>By: CherCat</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/06/27/aspcas-toxicologists-acetaminophen-fears-unfounded/comment-page-2/#comment-86155</link>
		<dc:creator>CherCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the many reasons dry kibble is hard on cats&#039; kidneys is they need to drink so much water to digest the dry food. But felines evolved in a semi-arid part of world. Cats don&#039;t have to drink much additional water when eating prey; they get most of fluid needed from eating juicy prey (typically rodents). Drinking lots of extra liquid made necessary by ingesting dry food is hard on their kidneys. Cats&#039; kidneys aren&#039;t &quot;designed&quot; to process lots of liquid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the many reasons dry kibble is hard on cats&#8217; kidneys is they need to drink so much water to digest the dry food. But felines evolved in a semi-arid part of world. Cats don&#8217;t have to drink much additional water when eating prey; they get most of fluid needed from eating juicy prey (typically rodents). Drinking lots of extra liquid made necessary by ingesting dry food is hard on their kidneys. Cats&#8217; kidneys aren&#8217;t &#8220;designed&#8221; to process lots of liquid.</p>
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