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		<title>By: PM Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>PM Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ballots are in.  EverClean Unscented Low Track wins again!  I began using this litter, on the advice of a great Maine Coon breeder, in &quot;97. Clorox bought EC at least 5 yrs ago,  and has &quot;reformulated&quot; several times since then, but the cats simply prefer it to all the other litters I&#039;ve tried.  My current attempt to con them involves SwheatScoop buried under EC.  Last attempt was with Worlds Best - obviously not in their world.  As far as they are concerned crystls are for feng shui!  

Maybe big kitties simply like &quot;heavy&quot; litter.  One of our Maines used to mound pea gravel to place his &quot;logs&quot; on every day.  He was the official boss of our feral colony and placed his mark to keep all intruders out. And it worked!

The Feb &#039;07 issue of Catnip (Tufts U) rated litter pans, scoops and litter.  Bottom line - cats prefer BIG pans (duh), we like BIG scoopers (although I prefer metal to plastic) and two litters I have not tried and don&#039;t plan to - Cat Attract (&quot;tracks quite a bit and very dusty&quot;) and Citra-Max.  Cats hate the smell of citrus; they got one brave cat to try it once - he refused to ever go back!  Probably smells like skunk does to us.

And we think they are finicky about food?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ballots are in.  EverClean Unscented Low Track wins again!  I began using this litter, on the advice of a great Maine Coon breeder, in &#8220;97. Clorox bought EC at least 5 yrs ago,  and has &#8220;reformulated&#8221; several times since then, but the cats simply prefer it to all the other litters I&#8217;ve tried.  My current attempt to con them involves SwheatScoop buried under EC.  Last attempt was with Worlds Best - obviously not in their world.  As far as they are concerned crystls are for feng shui!  </p>
<p>Maybe big kitties simply like &#8220;heavy&#8221; litter.  One of our Maines used to mound pea gravel to place his &#8220;logs&#8221; on every day.  He was the official boss of our feral colony and placed his mark to keep all intruders out. And it worked!</p>
<p>The Feb &#8216;07 issue of Catnip (Tufts U) rated litter pans, scoops and litter.  Bottom line - cats prefer BIG pans (duh), we like BIG scoopers (although I prefer metal to plastic) and two litters I have not tried and don&#8217;t plan to - Cat Attract (&#8220;tracks quite a bit and very dusty&#8221;) and Citra-Max.  Cats hate the smell of citrus; they got one brave cat to try it once - he refused to ever go back!  Probably smells like skunk does to us.</p>
<p>And we think they are finicky about food?!</p>
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		<title>By: Diane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried the wheat stuff and hated it.  That stuff is like concrete when it gets wet.  I have three litter boxes for two cats, use unscented clumping clay litter.  They don&#039;t have any accidents that I&#039;ve noticed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried the wheat stuff and hated it.  That stuff is like concrete when it gets wet.  I have three litter boxes for two cats, use unscented clumping clay litter.  They don&#8217;t have any accidents that I&#8217;ve noticed.</p>
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		<title>By: The OTHER Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>The OTHER Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by Dorene — June 18, 2007 @ 12:53 pm

&quot;Gina, could you show us a picture of your “string with a snap on it” that keeps the door open for the cat, but not for the dog? I’d love to be able to set something like that up for Lindsey to keep Pepper out of his area!&quot;

I used to do a variation on this with a long hook and eye arrangement something like this:

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/41ZjUzmy3uL._SS500_.gif

You should be able to find extra long hook-and-eyes at any home improvement store.

Comment by Kathy — June 18, 2007 @ 1:23 pm

“&#039;cat box candy bars&#039; they love so much.&quot;

Funny!  A friend of mine called it &quot;Kitty Roca&quot;!  VBG!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by Dorene — June 18, 2007 @ 12:53 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;Gina, could you show us a picture of your “string with a snap on it” that keeps the door open for the cat, but not for the dog? I’d love to be able to set something like that up for Lindsey to keep Pepper out of his area!&#8221;</p>
<p>I used to do a variation on this with a long hook and eye arrangement something like this:</p>
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<p>You should be able to find extra long hook-and-eyes at any home improvement store.</p>
<p>Comment by Kathy — June 18, 2007 @ 1:23 pm</p>
<p>“&#8217;cat box candy bars&#8217; they love so much.&#8221;</p>
<p>Funny!  A friend of mine called it &#8220;Kitty Roca&#8221;!  VBG!</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use World&#039;s Best Cat Litter and a litter locker.  The litter locker is an expensive diaper-genie type thing that locks the cat poop away in a way that prevents any smell escaping. The garbage truck comes once a week, and on that day I change the litter locker bag.  My small apartment has absolutely no litter box odor!  My system is a bit expensive, but the lack of smell is totally worth it.

My cats are good in the box.  I have those covered ones with no doors on them.  Everyone seems happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use World&#8217;s Best Cat Litter and a litter locker.  The litter locker is an expensive diaper-genie type thing that locks the cat poop away in a way that prevents any smell escaping. The garbage truck comes once a week, and on that day I change the litter locker bag.  My small apartment has absolutely no litter box odor!  My system is a bit expensive, but the lack of smell is totally worth it.</p>
<p>My cats are good in the box.  I have those covered ones with no doors on them.  Everyone seems happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My older cat developed a distinct dislike for the litter crystals, both because the crystals&#039; original shape was uncomfortable for her to walk on, and because the crystals made a hissing noise when she urinated. (This caused panic, and eventually, she found other places to pee.) My younger cat won&#039;t use anything but the crystals, go figure.

I use World&#039;s Best Cat litter in a box for the older cat, and I have flushed it.  Everyone&#039;s plumbing differs, and your mileage may vary.  I did this for a short time while a foster kitten was under isolation, to keep from having to carry it through the house, on which trip I inevitably fall over and spill litter every where if I&#039;m thinking about being careful. 

I once read Gossip on an automated litter box forum/discussion from an article link and users there stated that automatic litter boxes lifespans depended on the type of litter you used.  World&#039;s Best Cat litter (or a similar clumping non-clay litter type) was recommended for the Litter Robot and others.  Of course, those folks may have just been desperate not to scoop.

I just use a sift pan and scoop, I like being able to drag everything outside, scrub, and then sun bake for awhile, when I completely change the litter in a box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My older cat developed a distinct dislike for the litter crystals, both because the crystals&#8217; original shape was uncomfortable for her to walk on, and because the crystals made a hissing noise when she urinated. (This caused panic, and eventually, she found other places to pee.) My younger cat won&#8217;t use anything but the crystals, go figure.</p>
<p>I use World&#8217;s Best Cat litter in a box for the older cat, and I have flushed it.  Everyone&#8217;s plumbing differs, and your mileage may vary.  I did this for a short time while a foster kitten was under isolation, to keep from having to carry it through the house, on which trip I inevitably fall over and spill litter every where if I&#8217;m thinking about being careful. </p>
<p>I once read Gossip on an automated litter box forum/discussion from an article link and users there stated that automatic litter boxes lifespans depended on the type of litter you used.  World&#8217;s Best Cat litter (or a similar clumping non-clay litter type) was recommended for the Litter Robot and others.  Of course, those folks may have just been desperate not to scoop.</p>
<p>I just use a sift pan and scoop, I like being able to drag everything outside, scrub, and then sun bake for awhile, when I completely change the litter in a box.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to add---on the outside of my bathroom door I have installed a chain lock so the cats can go in but dogs can&#039;t.  What with grandkids, well it doesn&#039;t always get locked, I don&#039;t worry as much with the corn cob litter as I would with clay, or the &quot;crystals&quot; in the photo, still don&#039;t like it but don&#039;t feel like the litter itself could hurt the dogs more than the &quot;cat box candy bars&quot; they love so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to add&#8212;-on the outside of my bathroom door I have installed a chain lock so the cats can go in but dogs can&#8217;t.  What with grandkids, well it doesn&#8217;t always get locked, I don&#8217;t worry as much with the corn cob litter as I would with clay, or the &#8220;crystals&#8221; in the photo, still don&#8217;t like it but don&#8217;t feel like the litter itself could hurt the dogs more than the &#8220;cat box candy bars&#8221; they love so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like the flushable, clumping litter made of corn cobs.  It clumps really well, is not dusty, doesn&#039;t stink, no perfume, and I do flush it, even though my house is 101 years old, and I&#039;m sure the plumbing is older than old.  I did have a small problem with flushing in December, but it doesn&#039;t have to be flushed.  It composts too.  Arm and Hammer is one brand, World&#039;s Greatest Cat Litter is another, there are several others.  You have to mix it til the cats are used to it.  One downside--it does track alittle worse than some, it also sweeps up well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like the flushable, clumping litter made of corn cobs.  It clumps really well, is not dusty, doesn&#8217;t stink, no perfume, and I do flush it, even though my house is 101 years old, and I&#8217;m sure the plumbing is older than old.  I did have a small problem with flushing in December, but it doesn&#8217;t have to be flushed.  It composts too.  Arm and Hammer is one brand, World&#8217;s Greatest Cat Litter is another, there are several others.  You have to mix it til the cats are used to it.  One downside&#8212;it does track alittle worse than some, it also sweeps up well.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gina, could you show us a picture of your &quot;string with a snap on it&quot; that keeps the door open for the cat, but not for the dog?  I&#039;d love to be able to set something like that up for Lindsey to keep Pepper out of his area!

When I lived in more &quot;normal&quot; housing (currently in 100+ year old house where the bathroom was retrofitted into a tiny space in the back of the house), I always kept the litter box in the bathroom and just scooped after I&#039;d done my business.  I flushed the poop and put the clumps in a plastic bag in the wastebasket that I loosely twisted the top of so there wasn&#039;t any smell.  The cats were always happy because the litter box was always clean.  Guests never cared because the litter box didn&#039;t smell and after all, it was a bathroom -- who cared if everyone in the house was using it.  It was also nice because if cats were unhappy, they pooped in the bathtub -- easy to see if something was wrong and very, very easy to clean up after.

Since our bathroom is too small for a litterbox, I now have Gina&#039;s system for Lindsey in the mudroom extension of the kitchen.

Since scoopable litter has come out, all my cats have preferred it.  My Persians couldn&#039;t stand the smell of the pine litter, so I never bought it again.  No cat has ever liked Yesterday&#039;s News (smell?) or the crystals (feel?).

Now that Pepper is older, she doesn&#039;t try to eat Lindsey&#039;s litter anymore, but when she was a puppy, this was a real problem.  Now, we mostly have to keep her out of Lindsey&#039;s food (he&#039;s a nibbler, so we have to keep his food dish high so that he can jump to it, but Pepper can&#039;t).  Would really love to see Gina&#039;s system for giving Clara some privacy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gina, could you show us a picture of your &#8220;string with a snap on it&#8221; that keeps the door open for the cat, but not for the dog?  I&#8217;d love to be able to set something like that up for Lindsey to keep Pepper out of his area!</p>
<p>When I lived in more &#8220;normal&#8221; housing (currently in 100+ year old house where the bathroom was retrofitted into a tiny space in the back of the house), I always kept the litter box in the bathroom and just scooped after I&#8217;d done my business.  I flushed the poop and put the clumps in a plastic bag in the wastebasket that I loosely twisted the top of so there wasn&#8217;t any smell.  The cats were always happy because the litter box was always clean.  Guests never cared because the litter box didn&#8217;t smell and after all, it was a bathroom &#8212; who cared if everyone in the house was using it.  It was also nice because if cats were unhappy, they pooped in the bathtub &#8212; easy to see if something was wrong and very, very easy to clean up after.</p>
<p>Since our bathroom is too small for a litterbox, I now have Gina&#8217;s system for Lindsey in the mudroom extension of the kitchen.</p>
<p>Since scoopable litter has come out, all my cats have preferred it.  My Persians couldn&#8217;t stand the smell of the pine litter, so I never bought it again.  No cat has ever liked Yesterday&#8217;s News (smell?) or the crystals (feel?).</p>
<p>Now that Pepper is older, she doesn&#8217;t try to eat Lindsey&#8217;s litter anymore, but when she was a puppy, this was a real problem.  Now, we mostly have to keep her out of Lindsey&#8217;s food (he&#8217;s a nibbler, so we have to keep his food dish high so that he can jump to it, but Pepper can&#8217;t).  Would really love to see Gina&#8217;s system for giving Clara some privacy!</p>
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		<title>By: Diana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t like traditional or clumping litter.  I&#039;m extra worried about clumping litter clumping INSIDE the cats after they clean themselves of the litter dust.

I live on a small farm, so my cats are indoor/outdoor cats, but some do prefer to do bathroom duty in the house, (in a litter box!).

The horses, bunnies, and cats all use the same pelletized bedding for litter.  All of my baby bunnies are raised in the house and the mom teaches them to use the box!

I have used regular pine shavings, and now the pellets for years with the cats, and have never had any problems.  The pine seems to eliminate any smells, and it&#039;s so cheap, rather than cleaning the box excessively, I just dump it all out every couple of days and replace with entirely new.  No more &#039;treasure hunts&#039;.

-Diana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like traditional or clumping litter.  I&#8217;m extra worried about clumping litter clumping INSIDE the cats after they clean themselves of the litter dust.</p>
<p>I live on a small farm, so my cats are indoor/outdoor cats, but some do prefer to do bathroom duty in the house, (in a litter box!).</p>
<p>The horses, bunnies, and cats all use the same pelletized bedding for litter.  All of my baby bunnies are raised in the house and the mom teaches them to use the box!</p>
<p>I have used regular pine shavings, and now the pellets for years with the cats, and have never had any problems.  The pine seems to eliminate any smells, and it&#8217;s so cheap, rather than cleaning the box excessively, I just dump it all out every couple of days and replace with entirely new.  No more &#8216;treasure hunts&#8217;.</p>
<p>-Diana</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my three cats is extremely fussy about litter and boxes, and after considerable experimentation, we&#039;ve finally gotten everything to her liking. I wouldn&#039;t dream of trying one of the automatic ones with her (although I&#039;ll look into the Cat Genie when they become more widely available). But I&#039;ve also heard that the mechanical scoop startles the cats, and that the Litter Maid and its ilk aren&#039;t very durable.

Besides, I find that cleaning the boxes is really no big deal for me, so I&#039;ve never felt the need to switch from the old-school methods. I use Cat Attract litter (amazing stuff) in the boxes that the fussy cat uses, and World&#039;s Best in the third box, which all the cats use. Like Andrea 2CatMom, I follow Dr. Lisa Pierson&#039;s cleaning method, which hasn&#039;t really added to the workload and seems to make a difference to the cats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my three cats is extremely fussy about litter and boxes, and after considerable experimentation, we&#8217;ve finally gotten everything to her liking. I wouldn&#8217;t dream of trying one of the automatic ones with her (although I&#8217;ll look into the Cat Genie when they become more widely available). But I&#8217;ve also heard that the mechanical scoop startles the cats, and that the Litter Maid and its ilk aren&#8217;t very durable.</p>
<p>Besides, I find that cleaning the boxes is really no big deal for me, so I&#8217;ve never felt the need to switch from the old-school methods. I use Cat Attract litter (amazing stuff) in the boxes that the fussy cat uses, and World&#8217;s Best in the third box, which all the cats use. Like Andrea 2CatMom, I follow Dr. Lisa Pierson&#8217;s cleaning method, which hasn&#8217;t really added to the workload and seems to make a difference to the cats.</p>
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