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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/06/13/fda-rules-out-acetaminaphen-findings/comment-page-3/#comment-81390</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim, this entire document is one that everyone here should read and SEND to state reps, Senator Durbin, and news media. What a great find. Thanks.

If someone knows how, please copy some of the quotes from the scientist survey to this site.
Comment by petlover — June 13, 2007 @ 11:56 am 

I agree. I posted it on my blog, along with Don&#039;s Challenge to the FDA.  

And I posted a ton of the comments... here&#039;s a few:
“It is obvious that looking at 1-4% of imported products regulated by FDA is dangerously low and there are not enough field personnel to consistently be thorough in examinations due to the high volume individuals are required to complete daily.”

“Consumers no longer trust FDA decisions or personnel as they know we no longer
enforce the regulations but rather protect regulated industry/big business to the detriment of the consumers.”

“We are so short staffed there is no way FDA can protect the public. It’s just a disaster waiting to happen.”

Um, yeah, those pretty much sum it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim, this entire document is one that everyone here should read and SEND to state reps, Senator Durbin, and news media. What a great find. Thanks.</p>
<p>If someone knows how, please copy some of the quotes from the scientist survey to this site.<br />
Comment by petlover — June 13, 2007 @ 11:56 am </p>
<p>I agree. I posted it on my blog, along with Don&#8217;s Challenge to the FDA.  </p>
<p>And I posted a ton of the comments&#8230; here&#8217;s a few:<br />
“It is obvious that looking at 1-4% of imported products regulated by FDA is dangerously low and there are not enough field personnel to consistently be thorough in examinations due to the high volume individuals are required to complete daily.”</p>
<p>“Consumers no longer trust FDA decisions or personnel as they know we no longer<br />
enforce the regulations but rather protect regulated industry/big business to the detriment of the consumers.”</p>
<p>“We are so short staffed there is no way FDA can protect the public. It’s just a disaster waiting to happen.”</p>
<p>Um, yeah, those pretty much sum it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/06/13/fda-rules-out-acetaminaphen-findings/comment-page-3/#comment-81309</link>
		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim - I know there are so many more.  That is sad, but it needs to be done. You are doing a great job.  

You might want to take a NO-Nothing vitamin, from China - to keep up your strength!  errrr!

I keep wondering -- what are they going to do to us next -- I&#039;ve given up on when it&#039;s going to end.

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I don&#039;t know if this was already posted.  I found on Don&#039;s website:

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2007/06/pet_food_recall57.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim - I know there are so many more.  That is sad, but it needs to be done. You are doing a great job.  </p>
<p>You might want to take a NO-Nothing vitamin, from China - to keep up your strength!  errrr!</p>
<p>I keep wondering &#8212; what are they going to do to us next &#8212; I&#8217;ve given up on when it&#8217;s going to end.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if this was already posted.  I found on Don&#8217;s website:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2007/06/pet_food_recall57.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.consumeraffairs.com.....all57.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/06/13/fda-rules-out-acetaminaphen-findings/comment-page-3/#comment-81293</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*! GO Kim GO !*
Comment by Kat — June 14, 2007 @ 3:56 pm 

LOL  Thanks Kat!  I&#039;ve been sick the past 2 days, I&#039;m pretty sure it was from reading that FDA survey. 

Anyway, I&#039;m just catching up and posting all this stuff on my blog... then I&#039;ll get back to the unrecalled food comments. There&#039;s so many more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*! GO Kim GO !*<br />
Comment by Kat — June 14, 2007 @ 3:56 pm </p>
<p>LOL  Thanks Kat!  I&#8217;ve been sick the past 2 days, I&#8217;m pretty sure it was from reading that FDA survey. </p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m just catching up and posting all this stuff on my blog&#8230; then I&#8217;ll get back to the unrecalled food comments. There&#8217;s so many more.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/06/13/fda-rules-out-acetaminaphen-findings/comment-page-3/#comment-81288</link>
		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maureen (and all): Threads never &quot;disappear.&quot; They can always be found by using the search box at left. 

A blog&#039;s not a forum/bulletin board. And that has pros and cons. It&#039;s just a different form of communication, in the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maureen (and all): Threads never &#8220;disappear.&#8221; They can always be found by using the search box at left. </p>
<p>A blog&#8217;s not a forum/bulletin board. And that has pros and cons. It&#8217;s just a different form of communication, in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Maureen</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/06/13/fda-rules-out-acetaminaphen-findings/comment-page-3/#comment-81285</link>
		<dc:creator>Maureen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by Meo Doyne — June 14, 2007 @ 10:58 pm 
&quot;Dr. Steven Hansen, is a board-certified toxicologist and senior vice president with the ASPCA, who manages the ASPCA’s Animal Poison Control Center (APCC), located in its Midwest Office in Urbana, Ill. His take (trusting FDA&#039;s later testing) on this as sited in the above article does not mention his faith in the FDA. Where is this spin coming from?&quot;

This thread is disappearing from petconnection, so I don&#039;t know if you&#039;ll read any comments in response to your question about Dr. Steven Hansen/ASPCA. When Dr. Hansen made that comment, I would hope he didn&#039;t realize that the FDA didn&#039;t test the same samples, and worse, that they only tested 5 samples out of 60 million recalled. He&#039;s a scientist, so surely he didn&#039;t realize either that the FDA quietly went to the lab that found acetaminophen AFTER they said that they were confident there was none in pet food. It&#039;s hard to believe a scientist would make such a sweeping generalization unless he had been misled by the FDA, or he was careless in his remarks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by Meo Doyne — June 14, 2007 @ 10:58 pm<br />
&#8220;Dr. Steven Hansen, is a board-certified toxicologist and senior vice president with the ASPCA, who manages the ASPCA’s Animal Poison Control Center (APCC), located in its Midwest Office in Urbana, Ill. His take (trusting FDA&#8217;s later testing) on this as sited in the above article does not mention his faith in the FDA. Where is this spin coming from?&#8221;</p>
<p>This thread is disappearing from petconnection, so I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;ll read any comments in response to your question about Dr. Steven Hansen/ASPCA. When Dr. Hansen made that comment, I would hope he didn&#8217;t realize that the FDA didn&#8217;t test the same samples, and worse, that they only tested 5 samples out of 60 million recalled. He&#8217;s a scientist, so surely he didn&#8217;t realize either that the FDA quietly went to the lab that found acetaminophen AFTER they said that they were confident there was none in pet food. It&#8217;s hard to believe a scientist would make such a sweeping generalization unless he had been misled by the FDA, or he was careless in his remarks.</p>
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		<title>By: Maureen</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/06/13/fda-rules-out-acetaminaphen-findings/comment-page-3/#comment-81274</link>
		<dc:creator>Maureen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Comment by Meo Doyne — June 14, 2007 @ 10:58 pm

From June 5th (the article you cite) until June 13th is a long time. See this story. Karen Roebuck has been the premier reporter on this story:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/mostread/s_512295.html

FDA rules out painkiller as pet food contaminant
  		
By Karen Roebuck
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Wednesday, June 13, 2007

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration on Tuesday ruled out acetaminophen as a pet food contaminant after a Texas lab insisted it found the painkiller in numerous varieties.

&quot;My bottom line is I&#039;m pretty confident in the FDA&#039;s findings,&quot; said Dr. Steven Hansen, lead veterinary toxicologist with the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals&#039; animal poison control center. &quot;Acetaminophen is not hard to find.&quot; 
(...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Comment by Meo Doyne — June 14, 2007 @ 10:58 pm</p>
<p>From June 5th (the article you cite) until June 13th is a long time. See this story. Karen Roebuck has been the premier reporter on this story:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/mostread/s_512295.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pittsburghlive.com/.....12295.html</a></p>
<p>FDA rules out painkiller as pet food contaminant</p>
<p>By Karen Roebuck<br />
TRIBUNE-REVIEW<br />
Wednesday, June 13, 2007</p>
<p>The U.S. Food and Drug Administration on Tuesday ruled out acetaminophen as a pet food contaminant after a Texas lab insisted it found the painkiller in numerous varieties.</p>
<p>&#8220;My bottom line is I&#8217;m pretty confident in the FDA&#8217;s findings,&#8221; said Dr. Steven Hansen, lead veterinary toxicologist with the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals&#8217; animal poison control center. &#8220;Acetaminophen is not hard to find.&#8221;<br />
(&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/06/13/fda-rules-out-acetaminaphen-findings/comment-page-3/#comment-81226</link>
		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 08:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ANYONE IN THE CHICAGO AREA WANT A PUPPY??

Just found this on CraigsList-

*Found Puppies in Garbage Can*

-------------------------
Reply to: see below
Date: 2007-06-14, 5:21PM CDT


One of my friend&#039;s dad found 4 puppies in the garbage can, mixed male and female. i&#039;m guessing blue heeler/pointer/rat terrier. i&#039;ve taken these under my guardianship and will be taking them for their shots tomorrow morning. if someone would like one of these pups i&#039;ll rehome them to you for the price of shots and food ($85) 

http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/pet/352296384.html

~pitiful~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ANYONE IN THE CHICAGO AREA WANT A PUPPY??</p>
<p>Just found this on CraigsList-</p>
<p>*Found Puppies in Garbage Can*</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Reply to: see below<br />
Date: 2007-06-14, 5:21PM CDT</p>
<p>One of my friend&#8217;s dad found 4 puppies in the garbage can, mixed male and female. i&#8217;m guessing blue heeler/pointer/rat terrier. i&#8217;ve taken these under my guardianship and will be taking them for their shots tomorrow morning. if someone would like one of these pups i&#8217;ll rehome them to you for the price of shots and food ($85) </p>
<p><a href="http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/pet/352296384.html" rel="nofollow">http://chicago.craigslist.org/.....96384.html</a></p>
<p>~pitiful~</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/06/13/fda-rules-out-acetaminaphen-findings/comment-page-3/#comment-81224</link>
		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 08:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get ready for this -- we&#039;ve expected it all along!

*Supplement safety not a sure thing*

AP

Some suppliers rip off consumers by using cheaper ingredients that in some cases could be harmful.

LOS ANGELES — American consumers are being ripped off and their health possibly put at risk because of bogus ingredients slipped into imports ranging from toothpaste to dietary supplements.

Suppliers who substitute cheaper ingredients for the real thing seldom get busted because the government and private labs review few of the products flooding in.

Recent bouts of bad ingredients in pet food and toothpaste showed how suppliers can fool the limited safety checks.

Fad-driven supplements are particularly vulnerable — a rush of demand for a pill with an expensive key ingredient such as chondroitin can present a quick-buck opportunity. Much like anti-doping officials tasked with ensuring that athletes are clean, by the time scientists spot how their tests are being cheated, suppliers have a new trick.

... Multiple private labs that test supply quality have in recent years found a hodgepodge of pills lacking advertised ingredients, including chondroitin, saw palmetto, bilberry and coenzyme Q-10. Each is relatively expensive and many are supplied by China, a country with a long tradition of herbal remedies and a history of poor food safety.

The products are supposed to help with joint pain, prostate health, vision and the heart, though federal law prohibits most claims that supplements treat or cure illness. ... 

... To fill the void, Asian suppliers began hawking “Chinese saw palmetto” for $60 per pound. It was an obvious scam: The saw palmetto plant grows in the Southeast. The extract being peddled was based on palm oil, which is worth less than $1 per pound and which no one claims has medicinal properties.

Despite the rip-off, suppliers were not held accountable. ...

Read MORE:  http://www.timesleader.com/business/20070615_15__FAKE_IMPORTS_ART.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get ready for this &#8212; we&#8217;ve expected it all along!</p>
<p>*Supplement safety not a sure thing*</p>
<p>AP</p>
<p>Some suppliers rip off consumers by using cheaper ingredients that in some cases could be harmful.</p>
<p>LOS ANGELES — American consumers are being ripped off and their health possibly put at risk because of bogus ingredients slipped into imports ranging from toothpaste to dietary supplements.</p>
<p>Suppliers who substitute cheaper ingredients for the real thing seldom get busted because the government and private labs review few of the products flooding in.</p>
<p>Recent bouts of bad ingredients in pet food and toothpaste showed how suppliers can fool the limited safety checks.</p>
<p>Fad-driven supplements are particularly vulnerable — a rush of demand for a pill with an expensive key ingredient such as chondroitin can present a quick-buck opportunity. Much like anti-doping officials tasked with ensuring that athletes are clean, by the time scientists spot how their tests are being cheated, suppliers have a new trick.</p>
<p>&#8230; Multiple private labs that test supply quality have in recent years found a hodgepodge of pills lacking advertised ingredients, including chondroitin, saw palmetto, bilberry and coenzyme Q-10. Each is relatively expensive and many are supplied by China, a country with a long tradition of herbal remedies and a history of poor food safety.</p>
<p>The products are supposed to help with joint pain, prostate health, vision and the heart, though federal law prohibits most claims that supplements treat or cure illness. &#8230; </p>
<p>&#8230; To fill the void, Asian suppliers began hawking “Chinese saw palmetto” for $60 per pound. It was an obvious scam: The saw palmetto plant grows in the Southeast. The extract being peddled was based on palm oil, which is worth less than $1 per pound and which no one claims has medicinal properties.</p>
<p>Despite the rip-off, suppliers were not held accountable. &#8230;</p>
<p>Read MORE:  <a href="http://www.timesleader.com/business/20070615_15__FAKE_IMPORTS_ART.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesleader.com/bus.....S_ART.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: DMS</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/06/13/fda-rules-out-acetaminaphen-findings/comment-page-3/#comment-81223</link>
		<dc:creator>DMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 08:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone get intouch with Senator Durbin about this? Maybe he can push it further.I have sent him 3 letters.

Comment by Jill — June 14, 2007 @ 8:04 pm 

===========
I don&#039;t know how many letters I have sent him and DeLauro and lately Pelosi.  I get no response but am now on Durbin&#039;s form e-letter list. It&#039;s really discouraging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone get intouch with Senator Durbin about this? Maybe he can push it further.I have sent him 3 letters.</p>
<p>Comment by Jill — June 14, 2007 @ 8:04 pm </p>
<p>===========<br />
I don&#8217;t know how many letters I have sent him and DeLauro and lately Pelosi.  I get no response but am now on Durbin&#8217;s form e-letter list. It&#8217;s really discouraging.</p>
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		<title>By: Meo Doyne</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/06/13/fda-rules-out-acetaminaphen-findings/comment-page-3/#comment-81190</link>
		<dc:creator>Meo Doyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 05:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check This Out
http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=press_060607_3

Dr. Steven Hansen, is a board-certified toxicologist and senior vice president with the ASPCA, who manages the ASPCA’s Animal Poison Control Center (APCC), located in its Midwest Office in Urbana, Ill. His take on this as sited in the above article does not mention his faith in the FDA.  Where is this spin coming from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check This Out<br />
<a href="http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=press_060607_3" rel="nofollow">http://www.aspca.org/site/Page.....s_060607_3</a></p>
<p>Dr. Steven Hansen, is a board-certified toxicologist and senior vice president with the ASPCA, who manages the ASPCA’s Animal Poison Control Center (APCC), located in its Midwest Office in Urbana, Ill. His take on this as sited in the above article does not mention his faith in the FDA.  Where is this spin coming from?</p>
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