Comments on: Report: UC Davis finds melamine in food not on recall list http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/22/uc-davis-finds-melamine-in-food-not-on-recall-list/ The Web blog of the Pet Connection, a pet-care feature syndicated internationally by Universal Press. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:27:28 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: petlover http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/22/uc-davis-finds-melamine-in-food-not-on-recall-list/comment-page-2/#comment-70084 petlover Wed, 23 May 2007 23:03:52 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/22/uc-davis-finds-melamine-in-food-not-on-recall-list/#comment-70084 JAN JAN JAN JAN Jan, are you still here? Back to Basics food info. JAN JAN JAN JAN

Jan, are you still here? Back to Basics food info.

]]> By: lablover http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/22/uc-davis-finds-melamine-in-food-not-on-recall-list/comment-page-2/#comment-70072 lablover Wed, 23 May 2007 22:21:33 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/22/uc-davis-finds-melamine-in-food-not-on-recall-list/#comment-70072 jan, sometimes they do have special machines/extruders, depending how the machine has to be calibrated (not saying it's true in this case).... a low-heat extrusion machine versus a high-heat. Organics and human grade a lot of time to maintain their certification have to be kept separate from "feed" grade processes. Again, not saying this is true, but in some cases it is. I have a hard time believing Natura is the only one who has proactively sampled and tested their food. That is ridiculous. Most of these companies have recall insurance anyway! Use it if need be! jan, sometimes they do have special machines/extruders, depending how the machine has to be calibrated (not saying it’s true in this case)…. a low-heat extrusion machine versus a high-heat. Organics and human grade a lot of time to maintain their certification have to be kept separate from “feed” grade processes. Again, not saying this is true, but in some cases it is.

I have a hard time believing Natura is the only one who has proactively sampled and tested their food. That is ridiculous.

Most of these companies have recall insurance anyway! Use it if need be!

]]> By: Jan http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/22/uc-davis-finds-melamine-in-food-not-on-recall-list/comment-page-2/#comment-70049 Jan Wed, 23 May 2007 21:47:53 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/22/uc-davis-finds-melamine-in-food-not-on-recall-list/#comment-70049 with all the food recalled due to cross contamination at Chenengo Valley, I called Back to Basics and asked them about this situation. They told me that they use human grade food, I responded back that its a cross contamination and some of the foods recalled like lick your chops is a human grade food and was recalled, due to cross contamination with melamine.Their response to me was that That Back to Basics food is run on seperate machines from those other foods and thats why their food is safe. Get real like a plant uses special extruders for certain foods. I was so disgusted with the lame response I said thats BS and that you might want to think up a better answer before the next person asks you the same question.I was so angry I then hung up. I tried calling chenengo valley and all I got was a voice mail. Unbelievable that a company would think a consumer is that stupid to believe they built a "special extruder" just for their food and no one else. with all the food recalled due to cross contamination at Chenengo Valley, I called Back to Basics and asked them about this situation. They told me that they use human grade food, I responded back that its a cross contamination and some of the foods recalled like lick your chops is a human grade food and was recalled, due to cross contamination with melamine.Their response to me was that That Back to Basics food is run on seperate machines from those other foods and thats why their food is safe. Get real like a plant uses special extruders for certain foods. I was so disgusted with the lame response I said thats BS and that you might want to think up a better answer before the next person asks you the same question.I was so angry I then hung up. I tried calling chenengo valley and all I got was a voice mail.
Unbelievable that a company would think a consumer is that stupid to believe they built a “special extruder” just for their food and no one else.

]]> By: Lynn http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/22/uc-davis-finds-melamine-in-food-not-on-recall-list/comment-page-2/#comment-69803 Lynn Wed, 23 May 2007 04:52:19 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/22/uc-davis-finds-melamine-in-food-not-on-recall-list/#comment-69803 Hey folks - another slip from Menu Foods - something they "accidentally left off the list" http://www.itchmo.com/read/menu-foods-adds-two-more_20070522 Hey folks - another slip from Menu Foods - something they “accidentally left off the list”

http://www.itchmo.com/read/men.....e_20070522

]]> By: VJ http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/22/uc-davis-finds-melamine-in-food-not-on-recall-list/comment-page-2/#comment-69802 VJ Wed, 23 May 2007 04:42:32 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/22/uc-davis-finds-melamine-in-food-not-on-recall-list/#comment-69802 Oh sorry, thanks Christie for this item. But thanks Gina and all of you also. Oh sorry, thanks Christie for this item. But thanks Gina and all of you also.

]]> By: VJ http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/22/uc-davis-finds-melamine-in-food-not-on-recall-list/comment-page-2/#comment-69801 VJ Wed, 23 May 2007 04:40:52 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/22/uc-davis-finds-melamine-in-food-not-on-recall-list/#comment-69801 Now why don't we see things like this openly published. SmartPak and Neumann's Own Organics are doing things the right way. But unless someone checks the websites, they have no idea. As bloggers kept saying weeks ago, not one executive from a company has gone public in the media and said we are sorry, we are doing X and X and X to make sure our foods are truly safe. If not for PC and others, I and so many others would never know this. Thanks Gina and all others for finding this information and informing us. Now why don’t we see things like this openly published. SmartPak and Neumann’s Own Organics are doing things the right way. But unless someone checks the websites, they have no idea. As bloggers kept saying weeks ago, not one executive from a company has gone public in the media and said we are sorry, we are doing X and X and X to
make sure our foods are truly safe. If not for PC and others, I and so many others would never know this. Thanks Gina and all others for finding this information and informing us.

]]> By: TC http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/22/uc-davis-finds-melamine-in-food-not-on-recall-list/comment-page-2/#comment-69791 TC Wed, 23 May 2007 03:15:55 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/22/uc-davis-finds-melamine-in-food-not-on-recall-list/#comment-69791 This is a tongue twister, but someone help with this - Nutro, Natura, and Nutra are three different companies, correct? This is a tongue twister, but someone help with this - Nutro, Natura, and Nutra are three different companies, correct?

]]> By: Jan http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/22/uc-davis-finds-melamine-in-food-not-on-recall-list/comment-page-2/#comment-69789 Jan Wed, 23 May 2007 03:03:07 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/22/uc-davis-finds-melamine-in-food-not-on-recall-list/#comment-69789 anybody know what's going on at the Diamond website? seeing errors etc no info on the Diamond Nutra nuggets. I'm concerned because of the recall affecting other brands made at Diamond like Solid Gold. I was wondering if anybody knows what plant the nutra nuggets are made at(state) and am wondering if its the same plant as the nutra nuggets plant? anybody know what’s going on at the Diamond website? seeing errors etc no info on the Diamond Nutra nuggets. I’m concerned because of the recall affecting other brands made at Diamond like Solid Gold. I was wondering if anybody knows what plant the nutra nuggets are made at(state) and am wondering if its the same plant as the nutra nuggets plant?

]]> By: Bee http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/22/uc-davis-finds-melamine-in-food-not-on-recall-list/comment-page-2/#comment-69709 Bee Tue, 22 May 2007 22:38:16 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/22/uc-davis-finds-melamine-in-food-not-on-recall-list/#comment-69709 We could definitely spay our two new Pups. That's the best contribution we could make, plus feed 'em that good 'ole home cooking in the interim...no more processed convenience food. Now, multiply that by millions and we just made our wonderful new world in no time..now that's powerful. The choice is ours right now and it wouldn't take long to see the difference. Thank you Lord. AMEN. We could definitely spay our two new Pups. That’s the best contribution we could make, plus feed ‘em that good ‘ole home cooking in the interim…no more processed convenience food. Now, multiply that by millions and we just made our wonderful new world in no time..now that’s powerful. The choice is ours right now and it wouldn’t take long to see the difference. Thank you Lord. AMEN.

]]> By: TC http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/22/uc-davis-finds-melamine-in-food-not-on-recall-list/comment-page-2/#comment-69700 TC Tue, 22 May 2007 22:09:24 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/22/uc-davis-finds-melamine-in-food-not-on-recall-list/#comment-69700 I wanted to give a couple of links I found regarding the chicken deal - both are dated May, 2007. I want to make sure that anyone following this who hasn't seen it, is made aware. First link is to a memo from Rep. DeLauro's office, regarding the new cooked chicken scheme that is seeking approval. In the memo, there is a one line reference to the CURRENT state of "chicken" affairs: "Currently, chicken from the U.S. can be shipped to China to be cooked and processed and then sent back to the U.S." Link: http://www.house.gov/delauro/press/2007/May/Chinese_Chicken_Halt_05_02_07.html Second link is to one of one of many articles out there, discussing the latest USDA chicken scheme. Please take note of the paragraph which states that under current law, the chickens raised, slaughtered and processed SOLELY in China will be sold here to us, in the USA, without any indication of the country of origin. Link: http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/05/09/sports/chicken.php Yesterday, felt cheered up a bit re food issue progress. Today, with an FDA shutdown due to trying to impress the chinese who are visiting, and the food bill lagging, and the Costco recall (food sold in mid-April killing dogs early May in CA), and of course, reading even more links in this thread, I am back to discouraged. About the odds of turning the tide on this. I wanted to give a couple of links I found regarding the chicken deal - both are dated May, 2007. I want to make sure that anyone following this who hasn’t seen it, is made aware.

First link is to a memo from Rep. DeLauro’s office, regarding the new cooked chicken scheme that is seeking approval. In the memo, there is a one line reference to the CURRENT state of “chicken” affairs:

“Currently, chicken from the U.S. can be shipped to China to be cooked and processed and then sent back to the U.S.”

Link: http://www.house.gov/delauro/p.....02_07.html

Second link is to one of one of many articles out there, discussing the latest USDA chicken scheme. Please take note of the paragraph which states that under current law, the chickens raised, slaughtered and processed SOLELY in China will be sold here to us, in the USA, without any indication of the country of origin.

Link:
http://www.iht.com/articles/20.....hicken.php

Yesterday, felt cheered up a bit re food issue progress. Today, with an FDA shutdown due to trying to impress the chinese who are visiting, and the food bill lagging, and the Costco recall (food sold in mid-April killing dogs early May in CA), and of course, reading even more links in this thread, I am back to discouraged. About the odds of turning the tide on this.

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