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		<title>By: Pamela J. Betz-Baron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela J. Betz-Baron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 16:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naughty, naughty bloggers!!


(Keep up the good work!)</description>
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<p>(Keep up the good work!)</p>
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		<title>By: alicia</title>
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		<dc:creator>alicia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 16:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re looking for homemade diets, go to balanceit.com.  Thay have recipes that are created by board certified veterinary nutririonists.  You can get a free recipe by entering the promom code &quot;homemade&quot; at the checkout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re looking for homemade diets, go to balanceit.com.  Thay have recipes that are created by board certified veterinary nutririonists.  You can get a free recipe by entering the promom code &#8220;homemade&#8221; at the checkout.</p>
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		<title>By: MaKo</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaKo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 13:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote:&lt;i&gt;
Alice Nathanson (chair of the public affairs committee for the PFI and external affairs/PR director for Iams and Eukanuba manufacturer Masterfoods US): As an industry, I think we - representatives from pet food companies, all of whom are competitors - did a good job of coming together, but we have been working together very regularly to develop solutions and programs to get through this.&lt;/i&gt;

Oh, yes: you did a good job of coming together, banding together and trying to keep us pet owners in the dark. You did a good job of convincing our paid employees (the FDA) that all is fine, move on, nothing to see here.

Before my cat almost died and I have been forced to learn more about the pet food industry than I ever wanted to learn, I paid good money for a &#039;top of the line&#039; product, or so I thought.

Turns out that it is the cheapest possible ingredients, carelessly thrown together, produced by someone else and laced with non-healthy supplements. 

So what did I pay for? A PR campaign that lets me to believe that only Iams is professional enough to care for my pets: I am too stupid, lazy or unconcerned to provide for my animals.

My trust in the (pet) food industry and the governmental watchdog agencies is irreversably compromised, like the kidneys of my cats.

I want COOL; I want clear and honest labelling without the PR schmu; and I want the pet food industry to be hit hard by economical response of the pet owners.

If I calculate the $ cost of the commercial pet food and combine it with the directly related expenses for vets then I have to admit that home cooking is a lot (*a LOT*) cheaper. And that is without counting in the time spent (cooking vs waiting at the vet, hand-feeding a desperately sick cat...)</description>
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Alice Nathanson (chair of the public affairs committee for the PFI and external affairs/PR director for Iams and Eukanuba manufacturer Masterfoods US): As an industry, I think we - representatives from pet food companies, all of whom are competitors - did a good job of coming together, but we have been working together very regularly to develop solutions and programs to get through this.</i></p>
<p>Oh, yes: you did a good job of coming together, banding together and trying to keep us pet owners in the dark. You did a good job of convincing our paid employees (the FDA) that all is fine, move on, nothing to see here.</p>
<p>Before my cat almost died and I have been forced to learn more about the pet food industry than I ever wanted to learn, I paid good money for a &#8216;top of the line&#8217; product, or so I thought.</p>
<p>Turns out that it is the cheapest possible ingredients, carelessly thrown together, produced by someone else and laced with non-healthy supplements. </p>
<p>So what did I pay for? A PR campaign that lets me to believe that only Iams is professional enough to care for my pets: I am too stupid, lazy or unconcerned to provide for my animals.</p>
<p>My trust in the (pet) food industry and the governmental watchdog agencies is irreversably compromised, like the kidneys of my cats.</p>
<p>I want COOL; I want clear and honest labelling without the PR schmu; and I want the pet food industry to be hit hard by economical response of the pet owners.</p>
<p>If I calculate the $ cost of the commercial pet food and combine it with the directly related expenses for vets then I have to admit that home cooking is a lot (*a LOT*) cheaper. And that is without counting in the time spent (cooking vs waiting at the vet, hand-feeding a desperately sick cat&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 05:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank God for &quot;unfiltered&quot; (uncensored) information!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank God for &#8220;unfiltered&#8221; (uncensored) information!</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl Hansen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 03:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shame, Shame, on us.  We didn&#039;t swallow (pun intended, and not as humor) what Big Brother was telling us to think, do, buy, and..well, swallow.    We didn&#039;t accept the spin and easy answers.  Our &quot;over the top&quot; scenarios, while criticized, were honest feelings, thoughts, and questions also that deserved honest answers in return.  This, as is self evident, is just another attack on consumers for the shameful act of demanding safety and transparency which the industry still will NOT address.  Ah, heck!  The bag of pet food will start to cost more!  Oh, whine, whine, how terrible!  The real threat here from the PFI.  If you want safety, we&#039;ll have to charge you more is the open threat.  Well, if a bag of pet food is safe, I wouldn&#039;t have had to spend hundreds of dollars in vet bills...so it seems the increased cost is pretty cheap insurance.  A fact these PFI idiots seem to disregard.  They still don&#039;t get it.  Shame, shame on THEM!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame, Shame, on us.  We didn&#8217;t swallow (pun intended, and not as humor) what Big Brother was telling us to think, do, buy, and..well, swallow.    We didn&#8217;t accept the spin and easy answers.  Our &#8220;over the top&#8221; scenarios, while criticized, were honest feelings, thoughts, and questions also that deserved honest answers in return.  This, as is self evident, is just another attack on consumers for the shameful act of demanding safety and transparency which the industry still will NOT address.  Ah, heck!  The bag of pet food will start to cost more!  Oh, whine, whine, how terrible!  The real threat here from the PFI.  If you want safety, we&#8217;ll have to charge you more is the open threat.  Well, if a bag of pet food is safe, I wouldn&#8217;t have had to spend hundreds of dollars in vet bills&#8230;so it seems the increased cost is pretty cheap insurance.  A fact these PFI idiots seem to disregard.  They still don&#8217;t get it.  Shame, shame on THEM!</p>
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		<title>By: Marcy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 03:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Respectfully...

I believe that it is Mr. Ekedahl who is off the charts.

He is &quot;biting the very hand that feeds him,&quot; the pet lovers of America.

I wish him luck.  He&#039;s gonna need it after this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Respectfully&#8230;</p>
<p>I believe that it is Mr. Ekedahl who is off the charts.</p>
<p>He is &#8220;biting the very hand that feeds him,&#8221; the pet lovers of America.</p>
<p>I wish him luck.  He&#8217;s gonna need it after this.</p>
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		<title>By: nunyabus</title>
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		<dc:creator>nunyabus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 01:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good, finally there is a Human Kidney Failure Watch. That is what is needed so that months or years down the road people dying from kidney failure won&#039;t have false or incomplete autopsy reports and no lawsuits.

Unfortunately and very sadly, this may become the only way we will know how extensively these sloppy imports have reached the human food supply. 

These companies need to be sued sued sued to force good behavior.
 
The honor system, obviously doesn&#039;t work. And, probably the only reason companies VOLUNTARILY RECALLED is to avoid lawsuits.

Perhaps Sen. Durbin could also impose criminal penalties on &quot;Pass The Buck&#039; companies which have falsely labeled the actual protein content in the pet food followed by penalties for whatever has leached into the human food supply. 

I say &#039;Pass athe Buck&#039; companies because I believe they knew it was a false protein read but as long as nobody knew - so what - more profits. The Chinese are not the ONLY guilty parties. There is complicity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good, finally there is a Human Kidney Failure Watch. That is what is needed so that months or years down the road people dying from kidney failure won&#8217;t have false or incomplete autopsy reports and no lawsuits.</p>
<p>Unfortunately and very sadly, this may become the only way we will know how extensively these sloppy imports have reached the human food supply. </p>
<p>These companies need to be sued sued sued to force good behavior.</p>
<p>The honor system, obviously doesn&#8217;t work. And, probably the only reason companies VOLUNTARILY RECALLED is to avoid lawsuits.</p>
<p>Perhaps Sen. Durbin could also impose criminal penalties on &#8220;Pass The Buck&#8217; companies which have falsely labeled the actual protein content in the pet food followed by penalties for whatever has leached into the human food supply. </p>
<p>I say &#8216;Pass athe Buck&#8217; companies because I believe they knew it was a false protein read but as long as nobody knew - so what - more profits. The Chinese are not the ONLY guilty parties. There is complicity.</p>
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		<title>By: Joyce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 00:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by TC — May 17, 2007 @ 5:03 pm 

I think it translates to money.  The Chinese have been bankrolling us and our large deficiet. So our administration is afraid to piss them off, basically.  It&#039;s like sleeping with the enemy, so to speak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by TC — May 17, 2007 @ 5:03 pm </p>
<p>I think it translates to money.  The Chinese have been bankrolling us and our large deficiet. So our administration is afraid to piss them off, basically.  It&#8217;s like sleeping with the enemy, so to speak.</p>
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		<title>By: TC</title>
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		<dc:creator>TC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 00:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have also been doing a lot of online research about our trade relations.  I&#039;d like to know why we are kow-towing to the unregulated chinese so dang much; I see plenty of other countries banning things that we are sucking up and onto our shelves still.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have also been doing a lot of online research about our trade relations.  I&#8217;d like to know why we are kow-towing to the unregulated chinese so dang much; I see plenty of other countries banning things that we are sucking up and onto our shelves still.</p>
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		<title>By: TC</title>
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		<dc:creator>TC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 23:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by Serijna: You cannot rely on your public officials/government. 

I think that is true in every aspect of our lives : food, education, retirement, “news” as the media reports it, etc 
Comment by lablover
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Yes, it is true in every aspect.  

However, it has always been true, and it will always be true.  There is no time or place or change in human nature in all of recorded history, where it was not so.  At least not for very long at any given time.

Some of us are merely waking up to that idea, in our time.  We can complain and letter write and vote, to gain some measure of superficial appearance of safety, heck, maybe even some real change in some areas.  But that is no guarantee that the change will be sustained.  You, and me, each of us, need to pay attention to what we eat.  For good, for keeps, right up until our expiration dates.

I no longer believe this is going to blow over.  I just have a clearer understanding of how it is now.  I have always had a self sufficient bent, so this won&#039;t be such a leap for me as for some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by Serijna: You cannot rely on your public officials/government. </p>
<p>I think that is true in every aspect of our lives : food, education, retirement, “news” as the media reports it, etc<br />
Comment by lablover<br />
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<p>Yes, it is true in every aspect.  </p>
<p>However, it has always been true, and it will always be true.  There is no time or place or change in human nature in all of recorded history, where it was not so.  At least not for very long at any given time.</p>
<p>Some of us are merely waking up to that idea, in our time.  We can complain and letter write and vote, to gain some measure of superficial appearance of safety, heck, maybe even some real change in some areas.  But that is no guarantee that the change will be sustained.  You, and me, each of us, need to pay attention to what we eat.  For good, for keeps, right up until our expiration dates.</p>
<p>I no longer believe this is going to blow over.  I just have a clearer understanding of how it is now.  I have always had a self sufficient bent, so this won&#8217;t be such a leap for me as for some.</p>
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