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		<title>By: Kathi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 09:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Supposedly, the FDA field investigator in Las Vegas dropped by ChemNutra on March 29, 2007 late in the day to tell them melamine was found to be a contaminent but wouldn&#039;t know the quantity until March 30, 2007 according to ChemNutra&#039;s timeline.  In less than 24 hours, Steve Miller was in China to speak personally with XuZhou Anying about the melamine which supposedly Anying denied knowledge of.
I wonder what time he caught that flight and why he needed to speak with them in person.  Wouldn&#039;t a phone call do just as well?  Did he need to see something or did he need to discuss something in particular?  And why the rush to get there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Supposedly, the FDA field investigator in Las Vegas dropped by ChemNutra on March 29, 2007 late in the day to tell them melamine was found to be a contaminent but wouldn&#8217;t know the quantity until March 30, 2007 according to ChemNutra&#8217;s timeline.  In less than 24 hours, Steve Miller was in China to speak personally with XuZhou Anying about the melamine which supposedly Anying denied knowledge of.<br />
I wonder what time he caught that flight and why he needed to speak with them in person.  Wouldn&#8217;t a phone call do just as well?  Did he need to see something or did he need to discuss something in particular?  And why the rush to get there?</p>
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		<title>By: Kathi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 07:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by TC - May 11, 2007 @ 9:33 AM
Comment by Shelly - May 11, 2007 @ 10:02 AM
re:  FDA visas and Durbin &amp; DeLauro.
Durbin said the FDA has tried since April 4, 2007 to get into China.
According to Steve Stern on the ChemNutra website:  Steve Miller went to visit XuZhou Anying on March 30, 2007.  This is according to ChemNutra&#039;s timeline.
Wish I could have been a fly on the wall at that chummy little get-together.
I wonder who&#039;s idea it was to get a CAT?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by TC - May 11, 2007 @ 9:33 AM<br />
Comment by Shelly - May 11, 2007 @ 10:02 AM<br />
re:  FDA visas and Durbin &amp; DeLauro.<br />
Durbin said the FDA has tried since April 4, 2007 to get into China.<br />
According to Steve Stern on the ChemNutra website:  Steve Miller went to visit XuZhou Anying on March 30, 2007.  This is according to ChemNutra&#8217;s timeline.<br />
Wish I could have been a fly on the wall at that chummy little get-together.<br />
I wonder who&#8217;s idea it was to get a CAT?</p>
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		<title>By: TC</title>
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		<dc:creator>TC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 03:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Serijina - You are completly correct that  labeling is simply worthless.  So I am just changing my lifestyle drastically to avoid food from China or anywhere that I have no confidence in how they do business.   

I have cows; I have butcher paper and I know how to kill, hang, cut &amp; wrap.  Same for the venison (thanks grandma!  thanks mom!  who&#039;d of thunk your daughter with such advanced degrees would come full circle?).  I am going to find a way to make chickens work without commercial feed.  I will be planting a garden again, though in the high desert the season is short and the wildlife challenging.  I will be picking fruits myself and freezing/otherwise processing it for winter.  If I can&#039;t find it locally or can&#039;t confirm it is both grown/raised here AND done so in a manner that is safe (yes, there are americans who run the same damn scams the chinese do for profit), then it won&#039;t be a part of my diet.  I have done all of this before, and it is occuring to me that there is no reason why I can&#039;t resume doing so (okay, getting older.  But not that old).

What I am going to do to manage my risk is simply not practical for most people.   And all it will do is lesson my risk, certainly in this day and age it will never eliminate it.  But I will do as much as I can, and then just not worry about what I cannot change.  I think to a lessor extent, everyone can try to manage risk to some degree or another - organic.  Only buying from people you have reason to know you can trust.  Growing something in your own backyard, so that not everything you eat comes from the god-knows-where via your grocery store.  No more junk food - no more convenience foods.  At all.

I will never find a way to change human nature, and this is just what humans do.  Pick up any history book, or just sit back and turn on the history or military or the documentary channel.   This isn&#039;t the norm just here  - this is the &quot;norm&quot; over recorded history.  Some good periods; some dark periods.  But there isn&#039;t and never will be some magical time when we don&#039;t have to look out for ourselves, when we can equally trust everyone and everything - only times when things appear so smooth on the surface, that we pretend that we can do so.   I too chose to be lulled into assuming that trust really didn&#039;t need to be earned.  Reality check provided care of this food fiasco.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serijina - You are completly correct that  labeling is simply worthless.  So I am just changing my lifestyle drastically to avoid food from China or anywhere that I have no confidence in how they do business.   </p>
<p>I have cows; I have butcher paper and I know how to kill, hang, cut &amp; wrap.  Same for the venison (thanks grandma!  thanks mom!  who&#8217;d of thunk your daughter with such advanced degrees would come full circle?).  I am going to find a way to make chickens work without commercial feed.  I will be planting a garden again, though in the high desert the season is short and the wildlife challenging.  I will be picking fruits myself and freezing/otherwise processing it for winter.  If I can&#8217;t find it locally or can&#8217;t confirm it is both grown/raised here AND done so in a manner that is safe (yes, there are americans who run the same damn scams the chinese do for profit), then it won&#8217;t be a part of my diet.  I have done all of this before, and it is occuring to me that there is no reason why I can&#8217;t resume doing so (okay, getting older.  But not that old).</p>
<p>What I am going to do to manage my risk is simply not practical for most people.   And all it will do is lesson my risk, certainly in this day and age it will never eliminate it.  But I will do as much as I can, and then just not worry about what I cannot change.  I think to a lessor extent, everyone can try to manage risk to some degree or another - organic.  Only buying from people you have reason to know you can trust.  Growing something in your own backyard, so that not everything you eat comes from the god-knows-where via your grocery store.  No more junk food - no more convenience foods.  At all.</p>
<p>I will never find a way to change human nature, and this is just what humans do.  Pick up any history book, or just sit back and turn on the history or military or the documentary channel.   This isn&#8217;t the norm just here  - this is the &#8220;norm&#8221; over recorded history.  Some good periods; some dark periods.  But there isn&#8217;t and never will be some magical time when we don&#8217;t have to look out for ourselves, when we can equally trust everyone and everything - only times when things appear so smooth on the surface, that we pretend that we can do so.   I too chose to be lulled into assuming that trust really didn&#8217;t need to be earned.  Reality check provided care of this food fiasco.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 03:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The following eight Sensible Choice dry dog food products and seven
Kasco dry dog and cat food products with date codes between July 28, 2006
to April 30, 2007 are being voluntarily recalled:
    SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) (available in pet specialty stores nationwide)
    -- SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) Chicken and Rice Adult (Dry Dog Food)
    -- SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) Chicken and Rice Reduced (Dry Dog Food)
    -- SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) Lamb and Rice Reduced (Dry Dog Food)
    -- SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) Chicken and Rice Puppy (Dry Dog Food)
    -- SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) Chicken and Rice Large Breed Puppy (Dry Dog Food)
    -- SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) NATURAL BLEND Adult (Dry Dog Food)
    -- SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) NATURAL BLEND Senior (Dry Dog Food)
    -- SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) NATURAL BLEND Puppy (Dry Dog Food)

    KASCO(R) (available in pet specialty stores nationwide)
    -- KASCO(R) Chunks (Dry Dog Food)
    -- KASCO(R) Hi Energy (Dry Dog Food)
    -- KASCO(R) Maintenance (Dry Dog Food)
    -- KASCO(R) Mealettes (Dry Dog Food)
    -- KASCO(R) Mini Chunks (Dry Dog Food)
    -- KASCO(R) Puppy (Dry Dog Food)
    -- KASCO(R) Cat (Dry Cat Food)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following eight Sensible Choice dry dog food products and seven<br />
Kasco dry dog and cat food products with date codes between July 28, 2006<br />
to April 30, 2007 are being voluntarily recalled:<br />
    SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) (available in pet specialty stores nationwide)<br />
    &#8212; SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) Chicken and Rice Adult (Dry Dog Food)<br />
    &#8212; SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) Chicken and Rice Reduced (Dry Dog Food)<br />
    &#8212; SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) Lamb and Rice Reduced (Dry Dog Food)<br />
    &#8212; SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) Chicken and Rice Puppy (Dry Dog Food)<br />
    &#8212; SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) Chicken and Rice Large Breed Puppy (Dry Dog Food)<br />
    &#8212; SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) NATURAL BLEND Adult (Dry Dog Food)<br />
    &#8212; SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) NATURAL BLEND Senior (Dry Dog Food)<br />
    &#8212; SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) NATURAL BLEND Puppy (Dry Dog Food)</p>
<p>    KASCO(R) (available in pet specialty stores nationwide)<br />
    &#8212; KASCO(R) Chunks (Dry Dog Food)<br />
    &#8212; KASCO(R) Hi Energy (Dry Dog Food)<br />
    &#8212; KASCO(R) Maintenance (Dry Dog Food)<br />
    &#8212; KASCO(R) Mealettes (Dry Dog Food)<br />
    &#8212; KASCO(R) Mini Chunks (Dry Dog Food)<br />
    &#8212; KASCO(R) Puppy (Dry Dog Food)<br />
    &#8212; KASCO(R) Cat (Dry Cat Food)</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 03:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is this one new:




ST. CHARLES, Mo., May 11 /PRNewswire/ -- Royal Canin USA is announcing today the voluntary nationwide recall of eight Sensible Choice dry dog food products and seven Kasco dry dog and cat food products.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is this one new:</p>
<p>ST. CHARLES, Mo., May 11 /PRNewswire/ &#8212; Royal Canin USA is announcing today the voluntary nationwide recall of eight Sensible Choice dry dog food products and seven Kasco dry dog and cat food products.</p>
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		<title>By: straybaby</title>
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		<dc:creator>straybaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 21:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by Serijna — May 11, 2007 @ 1:19 pm

i totally agree. can&#039;t tell you how much time i&#039;ve spent to make sure that my pets and i have safe food, etc. freakin&#039; insane, but can&#039;t trust anything right now :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by Serijna — May 11, 2007 @ 1:19 pm</p>
<p>i totally agree. can&#8217;t tell you how much time i&#8217;ve spent to make sure that my pets and i have safe food, etc. freakin&#8217; insane, but can&#8217;t trust anything right now :(</p>
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		<title>By: Serijna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serijna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 20:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Straybaby,

Call me lazy but I think it is a very sad state of affaire when we have to question and research each item we buy in order to have peace of mind iether for our pets or our family.. All government exists by the grace of us taxpayers. It is totally unacceptable that we have to spent our valuable time to play Sherlock Holmes. The labeling should be sufficient to make a decision and what to buy or not to buy. The government should not be our enemy that we distrust to the inch degree. We have grown to accept this as norm over the years. Really, really very sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Straybaby,</p>
<p>Call me lazy but I think it is a very sad state of affaire when we have to question and research each item we buy in order to have peace of mind iether for our pets or our family.. All government exists by the grace of us taxpayers. It is totally unacceptable that we have to spent our valuable time to play Sherlock Holmes. The labeling should be sufficient to make a decision and what to buy or not to buy. The government should not be our enemy that we distrust to the inch degree. We have grown to accept this as norm over the years. Really, really very sad.</p>
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		<title>By: straybaby</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/11/pet-food-recall-now-you-see-em-now-you-dont/comment-page-1/#comment-61479</link>
		<dc:creator>straybaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 19:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You have to be a mystic if you want to know who actually manufactures it&quot;

It may require a change in eating habits. I personally don&#039;t eat many process foods, so I have been able to find sources for pretty much everything local/state. For the few items I can&#039;t, I&#039;m researching and still finding it possible for much of it to at least be from the US and certified organic. Supplements are the hardest, but still doable from organic whole food sources at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You have to be a mystic if you want to know who actually manufactures it&#8221;</p>
<p>It may require a change in eating habits. I personally don&#8217;t eat many process foods, so I have been able to find sources for pretty much everything local/state. For the few items I can&#8217;t, I&#8217;m researching and still finding it possible for much of it to at least be from the US and certified organic. Supplements are the hardest, but still doable from organic whole food sources at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Christie Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christie Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 18:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The reporter who asked the question should have followed up immediately about the discrepancy with Chinese cooperation. &lt;/i&gt;

Except they cut our phones off after our question. It&#039;s amazing he got to ask as much as he did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The reporter who asked the question should have followed up immediately about the discrepancy with Chinese cooperation. </i></p>
<p>Except they cut our phones off after our question. It&#8217;s amazing he got to ask as much as he did.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 18:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reporter who asked the question should have followed up immediately about the discrepancy with Chinese cooperation.  Or if he didn&#039;t know someone else should have made the point.  The FDA is not being called to account in that forum.

One of my senators still thinks that only 16 pets have died.  Despite the large amount of contaminated products recalled, it is still viewed as a small problem by those in power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reporter who asked the question should have followed up immediately about the discrepancy with Chinese cooperation.  Or if he didn&#8217;t know someone else should have made the point.  The FDA is not being called to account in that forum.</p>
<p>One of my senators still thinks that only 16 pets have died.  Despite the large amount of contaminated products recalled, it is still viewed as a small problem by those in power.</p>
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