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		<title>By: lablover</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/09/pet-food-recall-what-was-known-before/comment-page-2/#comment-61357</link>
		<dc:creator>lablover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 15:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mako, you think so?  So, I don&#039;t buy gas tomorrow.... I&#039;ll have to buy it eventually.... I don&#039;t buy pet food tomorrow.... I&#039;ll have to buy it eventually...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mako, you think so?  So, I don&#8217;t buy gas tomorrow&#8230;. I&#8217;ll have to buy it eventually&#8230;. I don&#8217;t buy pet food tomorrow&#8230;. I&#8217;ll have to buy it eventually&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MaKo</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/09/pet-food-recall-what-was-known-before/comment-page-1/#comment-59776</link>
		<dc:creator>MaKo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 16:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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If I were President, I would tell Mr. China Ambassador - here’s the story . . . YOU need to set a priority and agree to cooperate with the US government. I don’t want letters of intent, but I will give you my understanding –your country will establish standards and quality control or you will be looking elsewhere for the $2.2 billion check for your agriculture exports. 

Do I have any votes? 

Comment by Donna — May 9, 2007 @ 7:01 pm 

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I would like to re-phrase that :)

If I were the President of the US, I would tell the Chinese Abassador: Something needs to be done, and done quickly. My subjects (the people of the USA) are getting nervous and restless, and due to that (juicy expression) internet they have access to information - sweeping situations like that under the rug is not longer as easy as it was some time ago.

Now the problem is that those subjects, regardless of my excellent spin meisters, are threatening to *not buy* any stuff from China any longer and that now is a problem. People talk, you know. Gossip and internet are the worst enemies of a well-oiled governmental machine.

I don&#039;t have to tell you, Mr. Ambassador-from-China, what it means if only a percentage of those few misguided panicky pet-people refuse to buy &#039;China food items&#039;. Even *I* am getting those emails and letters from my subjects *threatening me* to not longer buy anything with the print &#039;Made in China&#039;, even my Congress is getting frisky.

So do something, and do it quick. Can&#039;t you throw a few people into jail, and leak that to the media?
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What I learned during that 8-weeks-and-counting food scandal is:

Nobody in the Government or BigBusiness gives a [beeeeep] about our pets, about us, our health or anything else. All they care about is profit and power (money), resp.

Therefore: hurt them where they hurt most, in their pockets.

How about a &#039;My pet and I paid a high price already&#039; one day no-buy. 

Don&#039;t buy anything: no gas, no food, no nothing. For one day. And let them know about that day.

That will send chills down their spines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote:<br />
If I were President, I would tell Mr. China Ambassador - here’s the story . . . YOU need to set a priority and agree to cooperate with the US government. I don’t want letters of intent, but I will give you my understanding –your country will establish standards and quality control or you will be looking elsewhere for the $2.2 billion check for your agriculture exports. </p>
<p>Do I have any votes? </p>
<p>Comment by Donna — May 9, 2007 @ 7:01 pm </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;End Quote</p>
<p>I would like to re-phrase that :)</p>
<p>If I were the President of the US, I would tell the Chinese Abassador: Something needs to be done, and done quickly. My subjects (the people of the USA) are getting nervous and restless, and due to that (juicy expression) internet they have access to information - sweeping situations like that under the rug is not longer as easy as it was some time ago.</p>
<p>Now the problem is that those subjects, regardless of my excellent spin meisters, are threatening to *not buy* any stuff from China any longer and that now is a problem. People talk, you know. Gossip and internet are the worst enemies of a well-oiled governmental machine.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have to tell you, Mr. Ambassador-from-China, what it means if only a percentage of those few misguided panicky pet-people refuse to buy &#8216;China food items&#8217;. Even *I* am getting those emails and letters from my subjects *threatening me* to not longer buy anything with the print &#8216;Made in China&#8217;, even my Congress is getting frisky.</p>
<p>So do something, and do it quick. Can&#8217;t you throw a few people into jail, and leak that to the media?<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>What I learned during that 8-weeks-and-counting food scandal is:</p>
<p>Nobody in the Government or BigBusiness gives a [beeeeep] about our pets, about us, our health or anything else. All they care about is profit and power (money), resp.</p>
<p>Therefore: hurt them where they hurt most, in their pockets.</p>
<p>How about a &#8216;My pet and I paid a high price already&#8217; one day no-buy. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t buy anything: no gas, no food, no nothing. For one day. And let them know about that day.</p>
<p>That will send chills down their spines.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/09/pet-food-recall-what-was-known-before/comment-page-1/#comment-59508</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynthia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 13:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are so third world and we don&#039;t even know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are so third world and we don&#8217;t even know it.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/09/pet-food-recall-what-was-known-before/comment-page-1/#comment-59443</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 13:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t have a new FDA Czar - what we have is a new wooden puppet - and I&#039;d like to know who is pulling the strings.

The great wall of China is littered with the rotting flesh of our pets and now even the fish glow melamine and schools of it are swimming ashore in San Francisco.

Don&#039;t buy their crap - not any of it - hit them where it hurts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t have a new FDA Czar - what we have is a new wooden puppet - and I&#8217;d like to know who is pulling the strings.</p>
<p>The great wall of China is littered with the rotting flesh of our pets and now even the fish glow melamine and schools of it are swimming ashore in San Francisco.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t buy their crap - not any of it - hit them where it hurts!</p>
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		<title>By: CathyA</title>
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		<dc:creator>CathyA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 12:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not particularly worried about the statement about pregnant women not doing inspections.  All the documents for melamine relfect inhalation hazards.  That said, this is the first time we&#039;ve heard there are contamination rates at the tune of 20%.  I noticed when the fish part of the story came out the FDA said in the press conference they&#039;ll have to check the fish samples in their lab for melamine residues.  Part of me wants to scream.  Obviously they already had fish samples in their labs to check.  I feel left out in the cold on one hand, yet understand that they don&#039;t comment on ongoing investigations.
Yet  by continuing the mention melamine, they are ignoring the other known compounds found in the samples and what effects they may have.  And they repeatedly talk about dilution factors in HUMANS, but I still have no idea if it&#039;s really safe to feed my cats. I&#039;m almost positive that they ferried meat samples over to UC Davis.  So I hope if there&#039;s any reporter watching, I want them to ask about the residue levels in MEAT.  THAT particular part of the investigation is NOT ongoing.

And I hope someone, somewhere asks the FDA employees on the ground what they feel is needed to get the job done.  They&#039;re the people who would know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not particularly worried about the statement about pregnant women not doing inspections.  All the documents for melamine relfect inhalation hazards.  That said, this is the first time we&#8217;ve heard there are contamination rates at the tune of 20%.  I noticed when the fish part of the story came out the FDA said in the press conference they&#8217;ll have to check the fish samples in their lab for melamine residues.  Part of me wants to scream.  Obviously they already had fish samples in their labs to check.  I feel left out in the cold on one hand, yet understand that they don&#8217;t comment on ongoing investigations.<br />
Yet  by continuing the mention melamine, they are ignoring the other known compounds found in the samples and what effects they may have.  And they repeatedly talk about dilution factors in HUMANS, but I still have no idea if it&#8217;s really safe to feed my cats. I&#8217;m almost positive that they ferried meat samples over to UC Davis.  So I hope if there&#8217;s any reporter watching, I want them to ask about the residue levels in MEAT.  THAT particular part of the investigation is NOT ongoing.</p>
<p>And I hope someone, somewhere asks the FDA employees on the ground what they feel is needed to get the job done.  They&#8217;re the people who would know.</p>
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		<title>By: Lola</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/09/pet-food-recall-what-was-known-before/comment-page-1/#comment-59121</link>
		<dc:creator>Lola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 08:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donna, Palomino, others thinking Bush is going to do something about this--he already has.  

--He has appointed a &quot;Food Safety Czar&quot; who thinks our food is &quot;probably safe&quot;, at least until we get a spike of unexplained health problems.

--Top FDA commissioner (and Bush political appointee) Andrew C. von Eschenbach could tell his subordinates to reveal the mystery company that bought the contaminated rice protein and the companies selling the contaminated pork, chicken and fish.  Hasn&#039;t happened.  Instead, the FDA is treating this information as though it is &quot;classified&quot;--too dangerous to reveal to the public it is protecting.

Don&#039;t wait anymore for Mr. Bush to solve this--actions speak louder than words.  

As for Bush telling the Chinese Premier we are going to boycott Chinese goods--that won&#039;t happen because:
(1) we&#039;ve outsourced too much manufacturing and agricultural production; the infrastructure is gone.  We physically can&#039;t produce all the stuff we consume.
(2) our economy runs on cheap imports made with cheap labor.  Source those at home and we&#039;ll have inflation.  That is political suicide.
(3) China owns most of the ballooning debt that financed the Iraq war.  We&#039;re in no position to tell them what to do; for the first time in decades, it&#039;s now the other way around.  

I&#039;m not posting this to start a political feud; I&#039;m hoping people will direct themselves towards useful action instead of wishful thinking.  This is not going to make our pets safer.  The U.S. is in debt to China and we can&#039;t manufacture what we consume; so talking about &quot;banning Chinese imports&quot; is like talking about solving global warming by putting refrigerator ice cubes in the ocean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donna, Palomino, others thinking Bush is going to do something about this&#8212;he already has.  </p>
<p>&#8212;He has appointed a &#8220;Food Safety Czar&#8221; who thinks our food is &#8220;probably safe&#8221;, at least until we get a spike of unexplained health problems.</p>
<p>&#8212;Top FDA commissioner (and Bush political appointee) Andrew C. von Eschenbach could tell his subordinates to reveal the mystery company that bought the contaminated rice protein and the companies selling the contaminated pork, chicken and fish.  Hasn&#8217;t happened.  Instead, the FDA is treating this information as though it is &#8220;classified&#8221;&#8212;too dangerous to reveal to the public it is protecting.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t wait anymore for Mr. Bush to solve this&#8212;actions speak louder than words.  </p>
<p>As for Bush telling the Chinese Premier we are going to boycott Chinese goods&#8212;that won&#8217;t happen because:<br />
(1) we&#8217;ve outsourced too much manufacturing and agricultural production; the infrastructure is gone.  We physically can&#8217;t produce all the stuff we consume.<br />
(2) our economy runs on cheap imports made with cheap labor.  Source those at home and we&#8217;ll have inflation.  That is political suicide.<br />
(3) China owns most of the ballooning debt that financed the Iraq war.  We&#8217;re in no position to tell them what to do; for the first time in decades, it&#8217;s now the other way around.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not posting this to start a political feud; I&#8217;m hoping people will direct themselves towards useful action instead of wishful thinking.  This is not going to make our pets safer.  The U.S. is in debt to China and we can&#8217;t manufacture what we consume; so talking about &#8220;banning Chinese imports&#8221; is like talking about solving global warming by putting refrigerator ice cubes in the ocean.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 06:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The AVMA - 1966, suggests that FDA knew what to look for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The AVMA - 1966, suggests that FDA knew what to look for.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathi</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/09/pet-food-recall-what-was-known-before/comment-page-1/#comment-58904</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 06:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, Kravis, you forgot to say CANS.
How clever.
Maximus IQous!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, Kravis, you forgot to say CANS.<br />
How clever.<br />
Maximus IQous!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kathi</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/09/pet-food-recall-what-was-known-before/comment-page-1/#comment-58899</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 06:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Please note that, according to Menu Foods, none of the pet illnesses or deaths reported were related to any of Nutro&#039;s products and that Nutro has received no case reports of illness or death related to this recall.  Further, no Nutro dry foods, biscuits, or treats are affected.&quot;
****** righto ******</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Please note that, according to Menu Foods, none of the pet illnesses or deaths reported were related to any of Nutro&#8217;s products and that Nutro has received no case reports of illness or death related to this recall.  Further, no Nutro dry foods, biscuits, or treats are affected.&#8221;<br />
****** righto ******</p>
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		<title>By: Kathi</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/09/pet-food-recall-what-was-known-before/comment-page-1/#comment-58864</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 05:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe we need to get hold of the ACLU for our constitutional rights violation by big government agencies that refuse to destroy tainted food and refuse to reveal where this food is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe we need to get hold of the ACLU for our constitutional rights violation by big government agencies that refuse to destroy tainted food and refuse to reveal where this food is.</p>
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