Comments on: Pet food recall: FDA says another recall may be coming http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/08/pet-food-recall-fda-says-another-recall-may-be-coming/ The Web blog of the Pet Connection, a pet-care feature syndicated internationally by Universal Press. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:27:28 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Kris http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/08/pet-food-recall-fda-says-another-recall-may-be-coming/comment-page-3/#comment-78508 Kris Thu, 07 Jun 2007 22:14:51 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/08/pet-food-recall-fda-says-another-recall-may-be-coming/#comment-78508 Has anyone heard anything about the "organic" or "natural" cereal makers buying wheat or rice flour from China? I recently bought a box of Barbara's rice Puffins and noticed it was marked "Made in Canada." Canadian law allows a product to carry this claim as long as the ingredients are assembled in Canada--not necessary to originate there. I wrote to Barbara's Bakery asking about this but have not received a reply. This silence alone, makes me very nervous. Has anyone heard anything about the “organic” or “natural” cereal makers buying wheat or rice flour from China? I recently bought a box of Barbara’s rice Puffins and noticed it was marked “Made in Canada.” Canadian law allows a product to carry this claim as long as the ingredients are assembled in Canada—not necessary to originate there. I wrote to Barbara’s Bakery asking about this but have not received a reply. This silence alone, makes me very nervous.

]]> By: Bertha http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/08/pet-food-recall-fda-says-another-recall-may-be-coming/comment-page-3/#comment-63019 Bertha Sat, 12 May 2007 20:06:22 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/08/pet-food-recall-fda-says-another-recall-may-be-coming/#comment-63019 Please give us the names of safe brands of cat and dog food. Please give us the names of safe brands of cat and dog food.

]]> By: lablover http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/08/pet-food-recall-fda-says-another-recall-may-be-coming/comment-page-3/#comment-61303 lablover Fri, 11 May 2007 13:52:49 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/08/pet-food-recall-fda-says-another-recall-may-be-coming/#comment-61303 maybe the 3rd company didn't recall because the product was free and clear of melamine and so there was no issue? maybe the 3rd company didn’t recall because the product was free and clear of melamine and so there was no issue?

]]> By: Eileen http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/08/pet-food-recall-fda-says-another-recall-may-be-coming/comment-page-3/#comment-59465 Eileen Thu, 10 May 2007 13:14:21 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/08/pet-food-recall-fda-says-another-recall-may-be-coming/#comment-59465 Aunt Granny - Thank you so much for that reference to the article! I just copied the entire thing and will be e-mailing it to my daughter in about ten seconds! I told her when all this first broke about the chance of it getting into the human food cycle to STOP eating anything "chancey"....and I don't trust the FDA worth a load of peanuts. And the manufacturer's....HAHAHAHAHA! I have more trust in the guy wearing a raincoat trying to sell me an "OPEGA" watch in an alley! - Eileen Aunt Granny - Thank you so much for that reference to the article! I just copied the entire thing and will be e-mailing it to my daughter in about ten seconds! I told her when all this first broke about the chance of it getting into the human food cycle to STOP eating anything “chancey”….and I don’t trust the FDA worth a load of peanuts. And the manufacturer’s….HAHAHAHAHA! I have more trust in the guy wearing a raincoat trying to sell me an “OPEGA” watch in an alley! - Eileen

]]> By: Angie http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/08/pet-food-recall-fda-says-another-recall-may-be-coming/comment-page-3/#comment-59030 Angie Thu, 10 May 2007 07:45:08 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/08/pet-food-recall-fda-says-another-recall-may-be-coming/#comment-59030 I've mentioned my thoughts on this before but I want to know if anyone else feels this way? Someone, please help me understand ..maybe i'm missing something here? Why are we being forced to believe the reasons for the recall from the very agencies who have lied to us from the very beginning? They care about money..not our pets. They're not trying to soothe us, they only care about saving their profits. Why hasn't an outside group been allowed to investigate this? Instead of allowing those scumbags to continue lying to us and giving all the media power to them why not expose the pain we've indured due to only one reason..MONEY. When all I hear is "it's not in the human supply" or "it's only 1% of the pet food supply" that just infuriates me because it's as if our pet's life is the very least of their concern. As awful as this may be..I bet this country would stand up and take notice if we're forced to watch the suffering of our pets instead of a bunch of corporate stiffs making excuses. Thousands of lives have been detroyed once again by thoughtless human beings..and for what? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGt7HkzNC68 Watch this video..tell me that is the reason we need to fight this. I’ve mentioned my thoughts on this before but I want to know if anyone else feels this way?

Someone, please help me understand ..maybe i’m missing something here?

Why are we being forced to believe the reasons for the recall from the very agencies who have lied to us from the very beginning? They care about money..not our pets. They’re not trying to soothe us, they only care about saving their profits. Why hasn’t an outside group been allowed to investigate this?
Instead of allowing those scumbags to continue lying to us and giving all the media power to them why not expose the pain we’ve indured due to only one reason..MONEY.
When all I hear is “it’s not in the human supply” or “it’s only 1% of the pet food supply” that just infuriates me because it’s as if our pet’s life is the very least of their concern.
As awful as this may be..I bet this country would stand up and take notice if we’re forced to watch the suffering of our pets instead of a bunch of corporate stiffs making excuses. Thousands of lives have been detroyed once again by thoughtless human beings..and for what?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGt7HkzNC68
Watch this video..tell me that is the reason we need to fight this.

]]> By: nunyabus http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/08/pet-food-recall-fda-says-another-recall-may-be-coming/comment-page-3/#comment-58762 nunyabus Thu, 10 May 2007 04:23:48 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/08/pet-food-recall-fda-says-another-recall-may-be-coming/#comment-58762 Good point, mattyd. Maybe this will be the turnaround to make things change. The hell with big boxes, GMO food-look-alikes,suvs,et al.(And fake presidents) Corporations may change the purchasing patterns through their own sloppy and greedy mistakes. I've started buying less already. Yes, too bad the little animals have to suffer trying to tell us to WAKE UP. Good point, mattyd. Maybe this will be the turnaround to make things change. The hell with big boxes, GMO food-look-alikes,suvs,et al.(And fake presidents) Corporations may change the purchasing patterns through their own sloppy and greedy mistakes. I’ve started buying less already. Yes, too bad the little animals have to suffer trying to tell us to WAKE UP.

]]> By: mattyd http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/08/pet-food-recall-fda-says-another-recall-may-be-coming/comment-page-3/#comment-58655 mattyd Thu, 10 May 2007 03:07:06 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/08/pet-food-recall-fda-says-another-recall-may-be-coming/#comment-58655 the wal-mart mentality of consumers pushes corporations to find cheaper labor, ingredients, supplies, finished goods, etc. That's why we buy our electronics from china and our roofs and lawns cared for by mexicans. too bad our pets had to suffer...... and too bad our purchasing encourages china to keep their human rights violations going strong and no incentive for them to clean up their act in other areas... (pun intended) the wal-mart mentality of consumers pushes corporations to find cheaper labor, ingredients, supplies, finished goods, etc.

That’s why we buy our electronics from china and our roofs and lawns cared for by mexicans.

too bad our pets had to suffer…… and too bad our purchasing encourages china to keep their human rights violations going strong and no incentive for them to clean up their act in other areas… (pun intended)

]]> By: D Jackson http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/08/pet-food-recall-fda-says-another-recall-may-be-coming/comment-page-3/#comment-58636 D Jackson Thu, 10 May 2007 02:54:51 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/08/pet-food-recall-fda-says-another-recall-may-be-coming/#comment-58636 "went out of business due to competition". Yes and that is competition due to cheaper pricing. So basically what the pet food companies are saying is that they have keep prices down due to being able to get cheaper manufacturing, suppliers and ingredients. Hum-don't think so. As far as them "spiking it a few years ago" no I was aware of that, but then again I wasn't suppose to be. Not my job and I wasn't the one SELLING the product. “went out of business due to competition”. Yes and that is competition due to cheaper pricing.
So basically what the pet food companies are saying is that they have keep prices down due to being able to get cheaper manufacturing, suppliers and ingredients. Hum-don’t think so.
As far as them “spiking it a few years ago” no I was aware of that, but then again I wasn’t suppose to be. Not my job and I wasn’t the one SELLING the product.

]]> By: nunyabus http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/08/pet-food-recall-fda-says-another-recall-may-be-coming/comment-page-3/#comment-58567 nunyabus Thu, 10 May 2007 02:11:18 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/08/pet-food-recall-fda-says-another-recall-may-be-coming/#comment-58567 Outsource, outsource, toss u.s. companies to the highest bidding shredders, fields and fields of franken foods contaminating ALL food supplies, China really does own u.s. (feelin it yet?) I say, outsource the 6 year old bags of trash in the White House...it really smells awful already. It's called Take Your America Back. But where has it gone and is there anything to take back? I guess when it becomes apparent that your ??president?? has given away your inherent rights and the poisoning starts infiltrating our human food, we will all understand what other countries go through on a daily basis for decades - at our hand - through our abundant payroll package(taxes) for the crooks. Outsource, outsource, toss u.s. companies to the highest bidding shredders, fields and fields of franken foods contaminating ALL food supplies, China really does own u.s. (feelin it yet?) I say, outsource the 6 year old bags of trash in the White House…it really smells awful already. It’s called Take Your America Back. But where has it gone and is there anything to take back? I guess when it becomes apparent that your ??president?? has given away your inherent rights and the poisoning starts infiltrating our human food, we will all understand what other countries go through on a daily basis for decades - at our hand - through our abundant payroll package(taxes) for the crooks.

]]> By: mattyd http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/08/pet-food-recall-fda-says-another-recall-may-be-coming/comment-page-3/#comment-58524 mattyd Thu, 10 May 2007 01:38:06 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/08/pet-food-recall-fda-says-another-recall-may-be-coming/#comment-58524 obviously no one here knows the testing procedures of every single load that goes into these pet food facilities. testing for a chemical like melamine is like a needle in the haystack... there are hundreds of thousands of chemicals in the world. The Chinese knew that pet food manufacturers test the protein levels by running nitrogen tests (bet you didn't know they tried to spike it with Urea a few years ago)... so eventually they found a chemcial that is basically untracable unless you test specifically for this particular product. It shows up in no other tests. Only 2 labs in the whole country even have the capabilities to test for this chemical. It's banned in the US. As for the brokers/ importers/ co-packers/ facilities, they run standardized test when a product comes in to make sure it meets contract specifications. contrary to popular belief and some postings I've seen in the past month, roadkill, etc does not make it into food. right now, i'm just thankful it did not get directly into the food chain. but since McDs is the single largest of chicken and beef in this country (ever read Fast Food Nation? Each burger has over 100 different cows in it)... do you think McDs would allow the FDA to force a recall of every single chicken and beef patty in the US? obviously no one here knows the testing procedures of every single load that goes into these pet food facilities.

testing for a chemical like melamine is like a needle in the haystack… there are hundreds of thousands of chemicals in the world. The Chinese knew that pet food manufacturers test the protein levels by running nitrogen tests (bet you didn’t know they tried to spike it with Urea a few years ago)… so eventually they found a chemcial that is basically untracable unless you test specifically for this particular product. It shows up in no other tests. Only 2 labs in the whole country even have the capabilities to test for this chemical. It’s banned in the US.

As for the brokers/ importers/ co-packers/ facilities, they run standardized test when a product comes in to make sure it meets contract specifications. contrary to popular belief and some postings I’ve seen in the past month, roadkill, etc does not make it into food.

right now, i’m just thankful it did not get directly into the food chain. but since McDs is the single largest of chicken and beef in this country (ever read Fast Food Nation? Each burger has over 100 different cows in it)… do you think McDs would allow the FDA to force a recall of every single chicken and beef patty in the US?

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