Pet-food recall: More recalls — yes, more recalls — text of Durbin amendment … and Mars buys Nutro

By Gina Spadafori

May 2, 2007

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First and foremost, we have more recalls. From the PetSmart Web site:

Update as of May 2, 2007
Menu Foods has expanded its recall as a result of the ongoing investigation by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration into wet cat and dog food produced with adulterated wheat gluten. Menu Foods expanded the recall to include cuts and gravy and other select products which do not include the wheat gluten suspected to be tainted with melamine but which were manufactured at any of Menu Foods’ plants during the period that suspect wheat gluten was used at that plant. The expanded recall includes an additional 20 items carried at PetSmart, including wet dog and cat food by Authority, Award, Sophistacat and Nutro. An updated list of the products recalled by Menu Foods, including this addition, is available at the Menu Foods website.

For complete information regarding this investigation, please visit the U.S. Food and Drug Administration Web site at www.fda.gov.

Here’s the complete list of products carried by PetSmart that are part of the recall, which includes the updated information.

If you feed any of your own pets these foods, be sure to stop immediately and switch to an alternative.

Menu Foods – 1-866-463-6738 (www.menufoods.com)

The Menu Foods media release:

TORONTO, ONTARIO–(May 2, 2007) - Menu Foods

Attention Business/Financial Editors

Menu Foods has previously recalled wet cat and dog food produced with adulterated wheat gluten supplied by ChemNutra Inc. Menu Foods is now expanding the recall to include cuts and gravy and select other products which do not include ChemNutra wheat gluten but which were manufactured at any of Menu Foods’ plants during the period that ChemNutra wheat gluten was used at that plant, to the extent they have not already been subject to a recall, due to the possibility of cross-contamination. Menu Foods has received a report from a customer and has received study results, both of which indicate cross-contamination.

As a result, Menu advises the public:

- Additional items in the United States and Canada have been added to the recall list as shown below. A further two varieties for Europe have been added to the recall list.

- The recall dates of those products previously recalled have been modified to include all dates during the period that ChemNutra wheat gluten was used in the applicable Menu plant. All of these products, including the expanded dates, have previously been withdrawn from the market and should already be off the retailer shelves.

Menu estimates that this additional recall represents less than 5% of the products that have already been recalled or withdrawn.

Emphasis ours. Europe. Hello, EU!

***

And regarding the earlier amendment added to the FDA funding bill, Sen. Durbin’s office has sent over a note and the amendments. Here’s the actual text of the amendment, and here’s the section by section. Davis Lazarus of Sen. Durbin’s office notes:

Wanted you to see this. [Here] is the media release. Attached is the amendment. Two handwritten changes were made. Thank you all so much for your input and work on this. It was tremendously helpful.

If you need any more arguments in favor of the FDA getting mandatory recall authority — which the amendment didn’t include at the end — go to the top of this post and start over.

**

Don’t even know what to make of this one:

Mars, Incorporated today announced the signing of a definitive agreement to acquire the global pet food operations of Nutro Products Inc., a leading manufacturer of high nutrition, high performance dog and cat foods sold in pet specialty and farm and feed stores. Closing of the purchase of Nutro from funds advised by Bain Capital Partners LLC, a global private investment firm, is subject to normal regulatory approvals which are expected to be completed within a few months. Terms of the deal were not disclosed.

The transaction will bring together two of the most recognized names in the petcare industry. Nutro will operate as a stand-alone organization within the Mars family of companies and will maintain its commitment to the pet specialty channel.

Mars snapped up Greenies last year when the maker of those popular treats was struggling with bad PR after some highly publicized dog deaths and subsequent lawsuit.

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190 Comments »

  1. Nice stealth bomb Menu dropped here. I don’t see a single peep on the main wires yet.

    Comment by Steve — May 2, 2007 @ 5:39 pm

  2. I’ll bet Mars snapped up Nutro really cheap! I will never do business with Nutro again (or Mars by association).

    Comment by catlover — May 2, 2007 @ 5:41 pm

  3. Mars is buying Nutro?

    Goodbye!

    Comment by Steve — May 2, 2007 @ 5:43 pm

  4. As an FYI, I still have cans of the newly recalled Nutro kitten food. They supposedly do NOT contain any glutens or rice proteins (that’s if you can believe their labels or their website). So maybe this really was cross-contamination.

    Also, my leftover cans are dated SEP 27 09 which may be why I lucked out & my cats are alright. The recall dates listed for the 3 newly recalled kitten varieties are DEC 06 09 thru JAN 24 10.

    Comment by catlover — May 2, 2007 @ 5:44 pm

  5. This latest news only reinforces the importance of knowing which manufacturers are making which brands. If the mfg. is unknown, then the product is not safe.

    Comment by catlover — May 2, 2007 @ 5:46 pm

  6. People are bailing out thats what they are doing.

    Comment by Steve — May 2, 2007 @ 5:47 pm

  7. Mars Own Nutro about 9 years ago i was told. And I also will never ever buy another Nutro Products.

    Comment by Mary Ann — May 2, 2007 @ 5:48 pm

  8. Hey Kravis.

    Remember that letter you wrote us here?

    What happened?

    Comment by Steve — May 2, 2007 @ 5:49 pm

  9. Just when I thought the recalls MIGHT be over. . . *sigh*

    Comment by Bonni — May 2, 2007 @ 5:49 pm

  10. I sent all my vet bills to Nutro almost 2 weeks ago. I have emailed them since, not one response. Of course, I have called Menu and filed a complaint 4 times and have never heard at all, so which is worse?

    Comment by Joyce — May 2, 2007 @ 5:50 pm

  11. Joyce do you have Nutro’s phone number??? Here it is. 1-800833-5330 ask for Corporate.

    Comment by catlover — May 2, 2007 @ 5:52 pm

  12. Menu Foods is downplaying this recall, but the truth is it’s bigger than what they are making it.

    Comment by Eskie Lover — May 2, 2007 @ 5:54 pm

  13. Comment by Joyce — May 2, 2007 @ 5:50 pm

    Nutros in serious trouble. They may as well be rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

    Comment by Steve — May 2, 2007 @ 5:54 pm

  14. The four Natural Ultramix cat foods recalled today don’t have wheat gluten or RPC in them. Not that the can labels mean anything though. They say they have potato starch and brewers rice flour. I think this may be it for me. I’m going to have to be locked up. With padded walls.

    Comment by michelle — May 2, 2007 @ 5:55 pm

  15. I bet you Baine Capital saw a no win situation-liability with Nutro and told Kravis they wanted out.

    Comment by Steve — May 2, 2007 @ 5:56 pm

  16. STEVE: I love your wit. Where do you come up with these?

    ****************
    Nutros in serious trouble. They may as well be rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

    Comment by Steve — May 2, 2007 @ 5:54 pm

    Comment by petlover — May 2, 2007 @ 5:57 pm

  17. Comment by catlover — May 2, 2007 @ 5:52 pm

    Thanks.
    After I get my money, I’ll help sink that boat.

    Comment by Joyce — May 2, 2007 @ 6:02 pm

  18. When Nutro called me on 4/12, the guy was asking me all kinds of questions, pumping me for information, such as which varieties my cats ate, did they all contain wheat gluten(?!@#), and on and on. He told me my cats must not have eaten any tainted product, otherwise they would have shown symptoms within 3 days of eating it.

    I really ripped into him for their not proactively recalling ALL their products with wheat gluten immediately (this was before the rice protein was announced). I suspect THEY KNEW it was not just the food with wheat gluten, otherwise, why so many questions, and why asking me repeatedly if each flavor had wheat gluten in it? I remember telling him it’s your product, don’t you know what’s in it?

    Comment by catlover — May 2, 2007 @ 6:03 pm

  19. thank you catlover, they should know what’s in their products.

    Comment by Eskie Lover — May 2, 2007 @ 6:07 pm

  20. When a VC is into a company like Bain is into Nutro, the VC’s make the decisions and not the company executives any more. And it’s only the assets of Nutro, not the stock, that’s being sold to Mars. So the VC’s pulled the plug to avoid the lawsuits/liabilities because if Mars just buys the assets they don’t assume the liabilities.

    Comment by Nabiya — May 2, 2007 @ 6:10 pm

  21. Steve
    I was wondering how long it would take Baine to bail.
    Wondering too how long it would take Nutro to catch up with their crap. Guess they needed more money.
    Henderson just keeps digging that hole deeper and deeper.
    Henderson probably wasn’t counting on the lawyer to squeal or that Rescue 4 newsclip to reveal how “clean” the plant is. 8)

    Comment by Kathi — May 2, 2007 @ 6:12 pm

  22. Comment by Kathi — May 2, 2007 @ 6:12 pm

    I’d keep an eye on Kravis to make sure he doesn’t try to flee the country with our money.

    Comment by Steve — May 2, 2007 @ 6:14 pm

  23. I fed my beautiful six year old cat Nutro pouch food as a snack. He became terribly, horribly sick and I had to have him put to sleep - it was one of the most traumatic and sorrowful moments of my life. I trusted Nutro and they betrayed my trust. I will NEVER buy a Nutro product again or a product from any company associated with Nutro or Menu Foods.

    The pet food industry sold an image that was a monstrous lie while they suckled on greed. We pet owners must stop feeding their insatiable, unethical, immoral greed.

    Mars can have them - a match made in …, you know where.

    Comment by MFEMFEM — May 2, 2007 @ 6:16 pm

  24. Steve
    I don’t know which is funnier - reading the story about Giving a Cat a Pill or imagining those deck chairs and watching them all sink!!
    It’s gonna be a toss up. 8)

    Comment by Kathi — May 2, 2007 @ 6:18 pm

  25. MFEMFEM, I’m very sorry for the loss of your cat.

    Comment by catlover — May 2, 2007 @ 6:19 pm

  26. Mars - Effem China
    http://tinyurl.com/yt5rge

    Comment by Steve — May 2, 2007 @ 6:22 pm

  27. Would that be effen China?

    Comment by catlover — May 2, 2007 @ 6:25 pm

  28. Comment by catlover — May 2, 2007 @ 6:25 pm

    Yes. A Mars Company. Kravis can move to China.

    Comment by Steve — May 2, 2007 @ 6:27 pm

  29. Steve, for a second time thank you for making me laugh.

    Comment by Maudigan — May 2, 2007 @ 6:28 pm

  30. Comment by Maudigan — May 2, 2007 @ 6:28 pm

    Every bit helps.

    Comment by Steve — May 2, 2007 @ 6:30 pm

  31. Effem China???
    How appropriate!!!
    Retirement resort for ex-CEO’s???
    I think Effem fits. 8)

    Comment by Kathi — May 2, 2007 @ 6:34 pm

  32. NOW IM PISSED!!!
    i was told that Triumph was not at risk?
    (even called ‘em, and was assured they where
    ok?)
    it seems the food was made at the menu foods plant..
    to avoid that melamine food i fed my cat about 15 of those recalled pouches over the last month. anybody know the time frame for the apearence of symtoms??
    i am truely concerned..

    Comment by johnypaycut — May 2, 2007 @ 6:36 pm

  33. Comment by Kathi — May 2, 2007 @ 6:34 pm

    “Effem China???
    How appropriate!!!
    Retirement resort for ex-CEO’s???
    I think Effem fits.”

    Hope they eat lots of pork and chicken while they’re there.

    Comment by MFEMFEM — May 2, 2007 @ 6:36 pm

  34. I wonder how many of them opened a Swiss bank account? 8)

    Comment by Kathi — May 2, 2007 @ 6:40 pm

  35. Comment by Kathi — May 2, 2007 @ 6:40 pm

    They probably did that a long time ago.

    Comment by Steve — May 2, 2007 @ 6:41 pm

  36. my cat had the last of the 15 pouches yesterday
    eveing? i’d been trying to get away from gray
    as it is altogether nasty. thus far the cat seems ok.. no vomiting , or signs of illness.
    it’s been 24hrs. i only hope that crapt wasn’t
    “crosscontaminated” ??
    i NO longer trust any thing outside of america?
    (sadly truimph was a ny company).
    if anyone knows about symtoms and window of
    apearence of toxins please let me know?

    Comment by johnypaycut — May 2, 2007 @ 6:42 pm

  37. Steve
    Back when they were shredding papers and selling shares.
    And getting their lawyers and PR’s up to speed. 8)

    Comment by Kathi — May 2, 2007 @ 6:46 pm

  38. Pretty sure that the expanded Nutro effects EU. Pouches were recalled earlier and they donot have a plant in Europe. But did have a share of the EU market. Pretty big export blow to Nutro. Could not happen to a nicer company. Not.

    Comment by Serijna — May 2, 2007 @ 6:51 pm

  39. Oh no not again. Do you think Purina is still safe? Please someone answer Me. Trudy

    Comment by Trudy Jackson — May 2, 2007 @ 6:52 pm

  40. This is like another sequel of “Nightmare on Elm Street” 8)

    Comment by Kathi — May 2, 2007 @ 6:53 pm

  41. Comment by johnypaycut — May 2, 2007 @ 6:42 pm

    johny, the 1st symptoms are drinking and peeing alot. But even if no symptoms, they can have the crystals in their urine. To be safe (and to ease your mind) you may want to bring your cat in for a urinalysis, and possibly bloodwork too. It shows up in the urinalysis first. I can try to find the link for you that explains this.

    Comment by catlover — May 2, 2007 @ 6:53 pm

  42. I think all the ceo’s & cfo’s of all these pet food companies should come to a banquet put on by pet owners from pet connection & itchmo…..it’ll be a pot luck….the main course will be melachicken, with cuts & gravy mixed into the stuffing, melamashed potatoes, cyagreen beans & not sure about dessert yet. I’m sure we can bake up some melachocolate chip cookies or perhaps melachocolate pudding. Boy, would that make my day…..

    I wonder how many in our illustrious government have been given a list of pet foods to avoid, chicken to avoid & Lord knows what else. You don’t think they’re being kept in the dark & fed BS, do you?

    Will this ever end? I’m so afraid for all of our pets…..stress level rising.

    Steve, you are a wit…..you always make me laugh. I’d like to be in charge of the life boats for all of them.

    Comment by JanC — May 2, 2007 @ 6:53 pm

  43. Anybody know if Nutro had any “sales” lately? I knew I should have checked the other day.
    Lemme guess, Kravis is just “shocked” by this new recall. 8)

    Comment by Kathi — May 2, 2007 @ 6:58 pm

  44. Well, I do feel better, I just wrote PFI and APPMA with a subject line of

    Lip Service Just Got “Rendered”

    Ann H.

    Comment by Ann H — May 2, 2007 @ 6:59 pm

  45. oppsie..
    it was..

    Lip Service to Safe Pet Foods Just Got “rendered”

    Ann :(

    Comment by Ann H — May 2, 2007 @ 7:00 pm

  46. The FDA is declining imports from China on “Wheat Gluten, Rice Gluten, Rice Protein, Rice Protein Concentrate, Corn Gluten, Corn Gluten Meal, Corn By-Products, Soy Protein, Soy Gluten, Proteins (includes amino acids and protein hydrosylates, Mung Bean Protein”…does the hydrosylates mean meat tenderizers? Look for these items in the “human foods”….Are we looking at 1/3 of the food on the shelves at grocery stores being contaminated???? This is what I was informed of today. Looks like we need to start asking the staff at the grocery store, when picking up our groceries, reading the ingredient lists, and “Are any of these ingredients (listed or not listed) from China received before the U.S.declining imports. I did that last night, and the staff went to their manager to get the answer. Watch out for the reduced prices and sales on products!

    Comment by JJ — May 2, 2007 @ 7:00 pm

  47. johnypaycut -

    this is a link to Antech Diagnostics, they are a lab used by alot of vets. Scroll down after the pictures of the crystals, to read the info.
    http://tinyurl.com/2y2r48

    Here is a link to AVMA info
    http://tinyurl.com/2arth7

    Good luck to you and your kitty!

    Comment by catlover — May 2, 2007 @ 7:00 pm

  48. We saw Mars buying Nutro…… Same thing they did last year. They bought Greenies when they were having legal issues and pets dieing from their product getting stuck in their throat……

    Comment by Tidsy — May 2, 2007 @ 7:01 pm

  49. JanC
    My cat Beans would like to serve some “sand-cookies” from her easy-bake oven. 8)

    Comment by Kathi — May 2, 2007 @ 7:02 pm

  50. Oh no not again. Do you think Purina is still safe? Please someone answer Me. Trudy

    Comment by Trudy Jackson — May 2, 2007 @ 6:52 pm

    Trudy -
    What are you feeding exactly? Many have had problems w/ Beneful

    Comment by shelly — May 2, 2007 @ 7:02 pm

  51. Comment by JanC — May 2, 2007 @ 6:53 pm

    Thanks knowing these guys they are probably thinking that if they just keep doing what they are doing (screwing up and making things die) they will finally get the Global Medal Of Freedom. They gotta show their owners some kind of backbone, you know, the wall street journal editorial page is watching you show them you’re tough.

    Comment by Steve — May 2, 2007 @ 7:03 pm

  52. Trudy, I’ve had great success with Purina Pro Plan.

    Comment by Tidsy — May 2, 2007 @ 7:04 pm

  53. Catlover ,
    Thanks.. i was thinking that the worse case
    became apparent within 24hrs?
    i am past that. so far no excessive peein’or
    drinkin’ and she’s basicly normal, it’s likely
    the food was’nt contaminated..

    Comment by johnypaycut — May 2, 2007 @ 7:05 pm

  54. If Menu had come clean those (three?) weeks earlier, the outcome could have been so much better. Thanks to Durban, there won’t be another 3 week lag at the sake of lives for the sake of $$$.

    Comment by shelly — May 2, 2007 @ 7:08 pm

  55. Thanks for asking- i’m feeding Purina One to the cats and kibbles and bits to the dogs???? Trudy

    Comment by Trudy Jackson — May 2, 2007 @ 7:08 pm

  56. Regarding the “urine crystals” if you can catch some urine at midstream in a white or clear cup from your beloved dog, then put some in a very clean container, sealed, put it in the refrigerator. Then keep a little in the cup you collected, let it dry for a few hours, most likely you may see the crystals or sediment. If you see this, take the sample from the refrigerator to your veterinarian and get the blood work as well as the UA, UA C&S. If your vet appt is for the next day, get another urine sample the next day to take along with your appt. as well as what you collected the day before. The lab work and updates are on the antechdiagnostics website.

    Comment by JJ — May 2, 2007 @ 7:12 pm

  57. Trudy-
    Anybody peeing a bunch, drinking a lot of water? Dog peeing where he usually would never? Anybody vomiting? Those are some signs of trouble.

    Comment by shelly — May 2, 2007 @ 7:12 pm

  58. What really galls me is they let the horse outa
    the barn after the fire?
    instead of comming out , saying we made this
    food and this other 1 , and listing the stuff
    so animals lives would be saved ??
    not menu foods! or any of these lowlifes
    rats .. they let your pet die, they wait ‘till
    they’r either caught by the fda, or revealed
    by pet deaths .. i cannot see my goverment allowing such frad to continue..

    Comment by johnypaycut — May 2, 2007 @ 7:13 pm

  59. Does Menu make anything besides pet food?

    Comment by shelly — May 2, 2007 @ 7:14 pm

  60. I just compared ingredients on nutroproducts website with my unopened cans of not-recalled Nutro Indoor cat food, No real surprise, but the “gluten” on the website list is not listed on the labels of the cans I have.

    I had written to them more than a month ago, asking various questions…no reply.

    They have lost this customer, too. It’s funny how these corporations who count on us to buy their products have no problem deceiving us.
    In fact they have whole departments staffed with people who do just that…maybe they even have their offices in China, for all we know. It’s sickening.

    Comment by Lori Lee — May 2, 2007 @ 7:15 pm

  61. The person that asked about Purina yes it is safe. I have been giving my cat Purina cat chow complete during the recall and My cat is just fine. I have had no problem with it. I have been giving it to her during the recall.I hope this will help.

    Comment by Jill — May 2, 2007 @ 7:16 pm

  62. Shelly, before any of this I didn’t even know that Menu made most of the canned food. If that fact wasn’t made apparent to us, I can’t expect to know whatever else they have a hand in.

    Comment by Lori Lee — May 2, 2007 @ 7:17 pm

  63. This is like another sequel of “Nightmare on Elm Street” - Comment by Kathi — May 2, 2007 @ 6:53 pm

    This is just the pet food—-wait ‘til the recalls start for human food. All those additives are in most things we eat. Bedlam in the supermarkets.

    Comment by Nadine Long — May 2, 2007 @ 7:17 pm

  64. Dry Nutro is still selling very STRONG. BUT so many pets are getting very sick and dying from the dry food.There are alot of people saying they are calling NUTRO telling them their pets died or are very sick. I kiss my pets every day I’m so glad I wised up and took my pets off nutro.Run a search on Nutro dry food.

    Comment by Mary Ann — May 2, 2007 @ 7:17 pm

  65. Thanks everyone. No one is peeing but once in a while vomiting. that might be natural. thanks so much, trudy

    Comment by Trudy Jackson — May 2, 2007 @ 7:20 pm

  66. Lori,that’s what has me Hot As All Hell, I went and brought Nutro, Not Nutro made by Menu foods from china.

    Comment by Mary Ann — May 2, 2007 @ 7:21 pm

  67. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menu_Foods

    Comment by shelly — May 2, 2007 @ 7:23 pm

  68. i’ve been feeding my 4 cats Innova Evo dry for ages. But they’re used to getting canned for breakfast and dinner. I’ve been giving them canned gormet Fancy Feast, alternated with Meow Mix in foil pacs, also baby meat, human canned turkey and chicken. But today i went to grocery store and bought ingredients to start cooking for my cats. I have to go to health food store tomorrow to get last few items. I’ll probably keep on letting them have a little dry Evo but hope to switch them mostly to home-cooked, alternating between several fairly easy cat food recipes i discovered. Heck, they’ll probably end up healthier than me!

    Comment by CherCat — May 2, 2007 @ 7:23 pm

  69. Trudy,
    Once-in-a-while vomiting might be worth peeing in a cup. Ease your mind a bit.

    Comment by shelly — May 2, 2007 @ 7:24 pm

  70. Fox has tainted food on right now

    Comment by shelly — May 2, 2007 @ 7:24 pm

  71. Re: Purina

    Friskies is bad food as far as I can tell. Could be melamine or maybe just junk, plain old crapy food.

    Been discussing it over at Itchmo and others think Fancy feast is just as bad. http://64.79.216.38/~itchmo/fo.....opic=200.0

    Also seen a lot of bad comments about Beneful.

    All are from the same company: Purina

    Just change their food; its not worth the risk…

    Comment by Peggy — May 2, 2007 @ 7:26 pm

  72. As catlover mentioned above, for anyone worried that their pet ate the tainted food, dont depend on just the BUN and creatinine blood work, a urinalyis NEEDS to be done. Many or most pets have normal blood work, it shows in the urinalysis.

    Comment by Sandi K — May 2, 2007 @ 7:27 pm

  73. Are they vomiting right back into, or next to, their food dish? Mine was, fairly regularly, about a couple of times a week.

    Comment by Peggy — May 2, 2007 @ 7:28 pm

  74. Just remember, people here are not too fond of purina because of their market share. The more market share a company has, the more they are not liked…….. But as you can tell, Peggy’s facts are only based on “as far as I can tell”

    Comment by Tidsy — May 2, 2007 @ 7:29 pm

  75. Be cautious of any food pet or human on “sale”
    Big 1/2 price sale on chicken and pork down here in NC just before the announcements. Same with pet foods.
    They had to squeeze the last nickle out. 8)

    Comment by Kathi — May 2, 2007 @ 7:29 pm

  76. Here’s another thought about the human food chain. I’ve been supplementing a couple of jars of baby food a week while I’m transitioning mine to an all raw diet. I noticed most of the Gerber jar foods have cornstarch listed. I emailed Gerber and phoned them twice now, asking where they source the corn starch from. I cannot get a reply out of them except for the standard auto email saying they received my questions.
    I have researched cornstarch and found that China is our biggest supplier of corn starch. This is from one of many Chinese websites selling cornstarch:
    Product Name: Cornstarch
    Place of Origin: China
    Cornstarch is a white powder product derived from corn, by dipping in, breaking up, separation, refining and drying, which composes two kinds of macromolecules of amylopectin and amylose. It is widely used for the industries such as food, medicine, plastic and fermentation..

    Used for plastic? Have we hard that before?

    Comment by Nabiya — May 2, 2007 @ 7:30 pm

  77. Castor and Pollux are one of the brands in the new recall. From their website from before this recall:

    “Question: Do you attend production runs of Organix and Ultramix products?
    Answer: Yes. One of our owners attends production runs; in fact, we just returned from the most recent run of our Organix canned formulas.”

    Not to pick on this company in particular, but it just confirms what has been said here all along. Just because a company says it’s watching over the production doesn’t mean it’s safe.

    Comment by Lisa C — May 2, 2007 @ 7:30 pm

  78. Kathi, you are an ALARMIST!!!! Chicken is only on hot deal because its CINCO DE MAYO this weekend. Big weekend for a lot of families to BBQ.

    Comment by Tidsy — May 2, 2007 @ 7:32 pm

  79. Comment by Peggy — May 2, 2007 @ 7:28 pm

    Peggy, our kitty was vomiting once to twice a day.

    Comment by Sandi K — May 2, 2007 @ 7:33 pm

  80. What I find laughable is how the media report this as “one of the biggest pet food recalls in U.S. history”.

    Isn’t this THE biggest? If not, then why not say it’s “the biggest recall since the xyz brand recall in 19—”.

    Or how they say Menu Foods has sued “another company”, as if we don’t know which one that is :)

    Or the continual BS about “16” or “18” deaths. That’s so old it’s not worth repeating, regardless of how understated it is.

    (And who are the 2 ginuea pigs who keep getting put in and left out?)

    Or how it “only affects 1% of pet food”. It sure seems like more than 1% to me, certainly from a risk standpoint, even if less than 1% of the pet population has confirmed illnesses and death so far.

    Media are spineless today.

    Comment by leek — May 2, 2007 @ 7:34 pm

  81. What’s wrong with Evo? and thanks , i’ll try the peeing test. Also, what’s wrong with Friskies and fancy feast? I know their not great, but is there anything wrong with them? and My best friends feed Evo. i’m from N.C. too and had just bought a bunch of chicken. Out it goes, Trudy

    Comment by Trudy Jackson — May 2, 2007 @ 7:34 pm

  82. Kathi, ‘sand cookies from the easy bake oven’.
    I’m still laughing….thanks for that one.

    I stopped supporting Nutro’s habit last March and never looked back. I’ll have to call the 1-800-833-5330 number to get the ‘immediate call back’ I was promised April. 12.

    Keep up the great work. We suspected cross contamination ages ago.

    Comment by Sindy — May 2, 2007 @ 7:35 pm

  83. Sandi K, when you say your kitties were vomiting 1-2x a day, was that because they ate recalled foods or for some other reason?

    Comment by Nabiya — May 2, 2007 @ 7:36 pm

  84. Comment by Nabiya — May 2, 2007 @ 7:36 pm

    She was eating recalled food.

    Comment by Sandi K — May 2, 2007 @ 7:39 pm

  85. What made Henderson cough it up this time?
    Did some employee anonymously give him a choice? Or because more complaints were coming in?
    Must of been serious. It’s not like him to just come forward.
    Good thing these cowards aren’t in the military. 8)

    Comment by Kathi — May 2, 2007 @ 7:39 pm

  86. Comment by Tidsy — May 2, 2007 @ 7:29 pm

    Go read what I wrote over at Itchmo Comment by http://64.79.216.38/~itchmo/fo.....opic=200.0

    That was 5 days ago, my cats are still continuing to improve since taking them off the Friskies.

    I’m just saying it is not worth the risk.

    Please remember about the spinach and peanut butter; these problems were know for a long time before they finally pulled those contaminated products. Nestle-Purina is just as huge as these other companies.
    If Purina thinks they can sell their crap and that they are ‘safe’ from being found out, well then, they can keep selling their crap. nobody can stop them.

    I’m trying to say that we don’t have to wait for some recall that may never come. Just stop feeding the Purina Foods. It is not worth the risk!

    Comment by Peggy — May 2, 2007 @ 7:40 pm

  87. johnnypaycut……
    my veterinarian told me today that he is also seeing lots of “blocked” cats….they can’t urinate, or don’t urinate much. Neutered males are sometimes prone to blockages in the urinary tract. BUT the vet said he has been seeing just as many blocked FEMALES as males. Females have a much wider urinary tract, so less likely to block. The crystals were HUGE

    If you have any doubts or concerns ask the vet to do a urinalysis……with 2 tests
    urine specific gravity
    microalbuminaria

    Comment by Peg — May 2, 2007 @ 7:43 pm

  88. Trudy
    Some pet parents in Wilmington, NC, were complaining about Fancy Feast including the Medleys. 8)

    Comment by Kathi — May 2, 2007 @ 7:44 pm

  89. The Menufoods recall (today’s) includes the Petsmart products plus more. Check the Menufoods site for the complete list of products recalled today due to possible cross contamination!

    Comment by Shawn — May 2, 2007 @ 7:45 pm

  90. Comment by Sandi K — May 2, 2007 @ 7:33 pm

    We called it projectile vomiting and wondered if he was bulimic…never knew until we switched foods and the vomiting stopped just like that.

    Comment by Peggy — May 2, 2007 @ 7:46 pm

  91. Never thought the day would come where a dog/cat licking their butt would be better than eating holistic/natural pet food.

    Comment by Tidsy — May 2, 2007 @ 7:48 pm

  92. johnnypaycut,
    Or spraying, mine was spraying a lot, sometimes inside the house but several times a day he sprayed the back door.

    That was another symptom that we didn’t recognize, that also disappeared all of a sudden!

    (Real glad that the spraying stopped!!!)

    Comment by Peggy — May 2, 2007 @ 7:50 pm

  93. Cross contamination?

    I’m sorry, I thought there were measures taken to prevent this at all times.

    I’m flabbergasted by Menu. I’m disgusted that there are living creatures being affected. But I am equally dumbfounded by Menu’s incompetence in handling this recall. Good God, why not shut your plants down for a few days, recall your stock, destroy your inventory, clean your machines, have everything inspected and then open back up for business?

    Their business strategy is suicidal and I just don’t understand who is driving the boat here.

    If Menu has a BOD, they need to fire Menu’s executives.

    Comment by Carole — May 2, 2007 @ 7:54 pm

  94. Tidsy
    Was I an alarmist when I said not to trust Nutro when the first recall came out? I still have those cans sitting on my desk that made my cat sick and they didn’t recall them ‘til weeks later.
    I’m not a trusting person, but I do trust my gut instincts.
    And I don’t believe in coincidences either. I like to connect dots.
    A holiday and a big sale may seem like a coincidence but remember, these recalls have been known long before announced.
    These aren’t exactly honest people we’re dealing with here.
    I still remember all the “sales” of the very same foods that were recalled and still on the shelves until some of us did something about it.
    As for me I trust no one until I know they are honest. I have four friends I would trust my life with. And that’s sad to say. Honesty doesn’t seem to be a virtue anymore. 8)

    Comment by Kathi — May 2, 2007 @ 7:58 pm

  95. What made Henderson cough it up this time?
    Did some employee anonymously give him a choice? Or because more complaints were coming in?
    Comment by Kathi — May 2, 2007 @ 7:39 pm

    Didn’t their release say that they had “a” complaint that suggested cross contamination and was later confirmed. I want to know what date that complaint came in.

    Comment by Carole — May 2, 2007 @ 8:00 pm

  96. PEGGY - You are so right about Purina, It just has to be a matter of time. They have dodged the bullet so far.

    Comment by elliott — May 2, 2007 @ 8:02 pm

  97. I still miss my little baby lady.she was with me for almost 17 yrs.she ate ol roy in the pouch.she was fine, and within a week, started peeing in the bed, on my lap several times a day. i put diapers on her for a few days, she just got soo sick. i had to put her to sleep. God, i miss her.she helped me thru so many things in my life. i have emphysema,and needed her longer with me.she is forever in my heart. Lady 2-14-07

    Comment by linda troxell — May 2, 2007 @ 8:03 pm

  98. Kathi, whens the last time you worked in ad planning for a retailer? Ads are planned up to 6 months in advance. And most retailers cannot change an ad less that 2 weeks before release date. Hence, retailers having ads with recalled product because they couldnt pull it.

    Comment by Tidsy — May 2, 2007 @ 8:03 pm

  99. Re: Comment by Nabiya — May 2, 2007 @ 6:10 pm

    When a VC is into a company like Bain is into Nutro, the VC’s make the decisions and not the company executives any more. And it’s only the assets of Nutro, not the stock, that’s being sold to Mars. So the VC’s pulled the plug to avoid the lawsuits/liabilities because if Mars just buys the assets they don’t assume the liabilities.

    Does this mean that the VC walks away with no liability? So, is anyone liable? Stockholders? Somehow I won’t really be surprised if this is true.

    My dog died 3 weeks ago - Nutro dry, but not quickly like the pets who ate the contaminated melamine food. He was at the vet so many times last year with diarrhea and lethargy and they just kept assuming it had to do with Lyme disease he had four years ago and kept putting him on 6 wk courses of doxycycline. I’ve been doing some research and think that Nutro has two problems - melamine in the recalled products - fungus or mold in the dry. The doxycycline probably kept the fungus at bay until his kidneys just couldn’t take it anymore. I never thought it was the food until just before he died and I gave the remainder of the bag to my vet and his dog got really sick. Nutro knows. They’ve just slipped under the radar with this other problem.

    Comment by Cathy — May 2, 2007 @ 8:04 pm

  100. This was filed by Menu Foods on April 26, 2007. You can find it on http://www.sedar.com

    APRIL 26, 2007
    TORONTO, ONTARIO
    Attention Business/Financial Editors
    The U.S. Food & Drug Administration today conducted a search of Menu Foods’ plant in
    Emporia, Kansas. Menu Foods has been advised by the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of
    Kansas that Menu Foods is the target of a misdemeanor investigation into whether the Food,
    Drug & Cosmetic Act has been violated.
    “Menu Foods has been doing everything it can to cooperate with the FDA,” said Menu Foods’
    CEO Paul Henderson. “Even before commencement of this investigation we have given the
    FDA full access to our plant and our records, have answered questions and provided documents
    to them any time they have asked. Throughout this process Menu Foods has worked
    cooperatively with regulators and others to identify and address issues relating to pet food
    safety.”
    Menu Foods is one of several businesses affected by the wrongful addition of melamine to
    Chinese wheat gluten sold in the United States. Wheat gluten containing melamine was
    furnished to Menu Foods and others by a U.S. supplier, ChemNutra, which obtained it from
    China.
    Under the U.S. Food, Drug & Cosmetic Act, the sale of any adulterated food may be a
    misdemeanor, even if the seller did not intend to adulterate the food.
    Menu Foods was also advised today by the United States Attorney’s Office for the Western
    District of Missouri that that office has commenced a similar investigation focused on Menu
    Foods and ChemNutra.
    -30-
    Contact information:
    Media and Investor Relations
    Sarah Tuite
    (416) 848-1703

    blah, blah, blah…….whatever you are hiding will be found out. Guess what, it was today!!

    Their special annual meeting will be held on June 29, 2007 at:
    Metro Toronto Convention Centre
    South Building
    222 Bremner Blvd
    Toronto, Ontario.

    Smell a protest???

    Comment by Sindy — May 2, 2007 @ 8:05 pm

  101. Tidsy - that would be true in print ads. however, the radio and tv ads can be pulled sooner.

    Comment by elliott — May 2, 2007 @ 8:08 pm

  102. Cross-contamination? My foot. Gross Negligence!!! The plant was closed down for a week when they cleaned up the machines and the lab. Then, remember they went on with business as usual. All food was safe. Until the new shipment from the new supplier landed.

    Comment by Nadine Long — May 2, 2007 @ 8:09 pm

  103. Some companies are choosing to continue radio/tv. I was commenting on those that think big sales on chicken/meats was because they knew of upcoming recalls………. Just a party/holiday weekend. The black helicopters can make a u-turn now.

    Comment by Tidsy — May 2, 2007 @ 8:12 pm

  104. It is also possible that, depending on the path of this recall, the purchase of Nutro by Mars may be blocked.

    Comment by Carole — May 2, 2007 @ 8:13 pm

  105. Cathy, Nutro is a privately held company. If the VC’s sell the assets and not the stock, the company becomes a shell with no net worth. There’s nothing to sue them for, there’s nothing to gain. Mars, on the other hand, doesn’t legally assume any liabilities when they don’t purchase the stock.

    Comment by Nabiya — May 2, 2007 @ 8:18 pm

  106. Thanks for the info Nahiya. That just doesn’t seem like it should be legal.

    NBC10 in Philadelphia just has a segment on pets getting sick. Guess why….from leptospirosis!!! Vets in this area are seeing an increase in the last several years. Not one word about the latest recall. Not one word about pets dying from what they’re eating. Guess what leptospirosis causes … kidney failure! It’s not reeaallly the food.

    Comment by Cathy — May 2, 2007 @ 8:28 pm

  107. I don’t subscribe to conspiracy theories. But I am well aware of those who would conspire to deceive whether individually or collectively. Enron comes to mind as does E.F. Hutton and Archer Daniels Midland. Not to mention Judge Cashell and his hooligans from Kilgore and Longview, TX. (Personal experience with that judge).
    Whether the store’s were aware or not there were certainly those in the know who said nothing knowing a holiday was coming.
    There were those who knew this stuff was bad when they sold it for feed. And there were those who knew it was bad when it was shipped almost a year ago.
    Why would they all wait to come forward when it was obvious something was wrong as far back as March.
    Those who bought the scrap food to turn into feed knew it in March. Why didn’t they come forward?
    No one is being honest about anything. Everyone is waiting until the last second to say anything.
    Name someone who went out of their way to get tested without being prompted by complaints. We’ve been complaining a long time and have been met with silence.
    I prefer to stick with my gut. 8)

    Comment by Kathi — May 2, 2007 @ 8:38 pm

  108. Earlier today someone had posted about seeing milk with a “Hormone Free” labeling.

    Not for long if Monsanto gets their way with the FDA:

    “For this reason, the company wants to ban shady dairy farmers like those rascally Amish and weirdo hippies from labeling their products free of artificial hormones.

    Earlier this month, Monsanto complained to the Food and Drug Administration and Federal Trade Committee about the proliferation of labels with language such as “Our Farmers’ Pledge: No Artificial Growth Hormones,” as found on milk sold by Oakhurst Dairy in Portland, Maine.

    Monsanto says this scares consumers into thinking there’s something unhealthy about its human-made recombinant bovine growth hormone (rBGH), also known as recombinant bovine somatotropin (rBST) or by the Monsanto brand name, Posilac, now in about one-third of American dairy cows…”

    Complete Article:
    http://www.livescience.com/hum.....eling.html

    Comment by Aunt Granny — May 2, 2007 @ 8:43 pm

  109. What about cross-contamination of Castor & Pollux dry at C.J. foods? what about the RPC from China?

    C&P said they tested own food for Melamine and would for cyuranic acid. Said haven’t had FDA test.

    What about potato protein -Pet Promise? Or the rest of Natural Balance with rice flour

    And what about Petguard, so obnoxiously evasive and made a Menu Foods.

    I am disgusted. I called C&P and questioned cross contamination either with cans or with dry where the organic is run on the same equipment - some drys (puppy/kitten) have RPC

    Comment by maddy — May 2, 2007 @ 8:55 pm

  110. Washington Post, Wed. May 2

    U.S. investigators have arrived in China, officials said, but inspections of production facilities there have been hampered by the start yesterday of a week-long national vacation.

    “Essentially, all the officials are on holiday,” said Walter Batts, part of the FDA’s China team, adding that one Chinese official had stayed behind to help.

    Comment by Steve — May 2, 2007 @ 8:55 pm

  111. Blue Buffalo made at CJ

    Comment by maddy — May 2, 2007 @ 8:56 pm

  112. I talked with Nutro - corporate today, have been getting return calls within a few hours after leaving messages and routine updates. I was informed today that they are changing Manufacturing companies, improving the ingredients for our pets, so I am presuming that this means they will not be using “Menu” again.

    Comment by JJ — May 2, 2007 @ 8:57 pm

  113. LOL, it took Nutro this long to figure it out???…. Or could it just be a mars item wrapped with a nutro label in the future???

    Comment by Tidsy — May 2, 2007 @ 8:58 pm

  114. Steve
    I hope their Holiday’s are better than ours.
    Missed St. Paddy’s, Easter didn’t feel very comforting. The anniversary of my daughter’s death was even harder to deal with since I came close to losing her cat, Beans and my little Anna from Nutro and Natural Balance. So I just blew off May Day as well.
    So Happy Holidays you $(#^*+&$. 8)

    Comment by Kathi — May 2, 2007 @ 9:06 pm

  115. From earlier “They have lost this customer, too. It’s funny how these corporations who count on us to buy their products have no problem deceiving us. In fact they have whole departments staffed with people who do just that…maybe they even have their offices in China, for all we know. It’s sickening.

    Comment by Lori Lee — May 2, 2007 @ 7:15 pm

    That’s it! They are outsourcing their customer service complaints to CHINA!

    Comment by Cheryl Hansen — May 2, 2007 @ 9:11 pm

  116. Not Nutro’s week aparently.
    http://tinyurl.com/2s74ns

    Comment by Schnauzer — May 2, 2007 @ 9:18 pm

  117. While I understand the FDA doesn’t have authority to recall pet food, (and human food too? I’m not clear there)…what the H E double L is stopping them from NAMING THE COMPANIES INVOLVED?!?!

    After all, that’s how the WHO (or was it the CDC? I forget) got around their complete lack of ‘teeth’ during the SARS outbreak. Can’t compel the bad actors to cooperate; CAN warn the public.

    But hey, there’s another way. I’ve begun calling companies whose food I eat, asking them the original source of EVERY ingredient, and where everything was processed. They always plan to “get back to” me with the information. Then I tell them I hope nothing is from China, because I’m going to be eating all organic, Chinese import free.

    “Hope to hear good news from you soon, because I really would like to continue to eat your food. Goodbye!”

    Remember, we have the power.

    Comment by Skijor — May 2, 2007 @ 9:22 pm

  118. Comment by Nadine Long — May 2, 2007 @ 8:09 pm

    You got it, girl…though “my foot” wasn’t quite the anatomical reference that came to mind for me.

    If ANI was adding rice protein concentrate to foods without telling their customers, what are the odds that Menu did the same thing with its wheat gluten? I’d bet on it, at this point.

    Please, please, please let Durbin’s labeling amendment go through. Call it the curve of diminishing expectations, if you like - but at this point, the global capitalist overthrow can wait. I just want to know for certain what I’m feeding my guys for breakfast tomorrow, and then take it from there!

    Comment by Laura — May 2, 2007 @ 9:24 pm

  119. So when is someone going to address the question of why Menu and ANI are still up and running?

    ANI should have been shut down last week as soon as accusations came out.

    Comment by Carole — May 2, 2007 @ 9:36 pm

  120. Does anyone know which factories the newest recalled foods were made in? What I’m getting at is this: What about the other “premium” foods that have their canned foods manufactured by Menu? I.e. Natura, Wysong, Wellness…Are any of them made in the same factories?

    Comment by joyce — May 2, 2007 @ 9:40 pm

  121. Nutro plant smelling too much. Kinda funny, not more than 1 hr from there is the worst smelling farms!!!

    Comment by Tidsy — May 2, 2007 @ 9:47 pm

  122. JohnnyPayCut: We have seen pets in our clinic that have eaten contaminated foods who have presented with no symptoms, but had abnormal test results.

    Also, we attended a webinar last week by IDEXX who are reporting the same thing. The recommendation *used to be* watch your pet for symptoms, then see your vet. The latest, best advice is to have your pet tested right away if your pet has eaten any of the recalled food whether you are seeing symptoms or not.

    The sooner they are treated, the better. In addition, they should be retested 3-4 weeks later to check for rising creatine levels even within normal range. We are treating a case like this also.

    The IDEXX info is at http://tinyurl.com/2u8unv. Their monitoring guidelines are especially clear. There is a wealth of additional info there for you or your vet to check out.

    Comment by Marilyn — May 3, 2007 @ 12:26 am

  123. Hi Folks

    The press release says “A further two varieties for Europe have been added to the recall list” but doesn’t specify which these are - really, really helpful.

    Anyone here know which they are? I guess Nutro, but which varieties? Possibly everything on the recall list with weights in grams not ounces - but thats a lot more than two

    Comment by Phil from England — May 3, 2007 @ 12:35 am

  124. Phil
    Do you have a copy of the list? 8)

    Comment by Kathi — May 3, 2007 @ 12:58 am

  125. Phil from England
    This link is the Menu Foods List:
    http://tinyurl.com/2t7obj
    There are a few that could be what you’re looking for. 8)

    Comment by Kathi — May 3, 2007 @ 1:08 am

  126. Cross contamination? Nope, don’t think so. Haven’t we been waiting to find out where the second shipment of RPC went? I don’t buy that this is the result of a customer complaint either - it’s from the FDA taking apart their offices.

    Comment by CathyA — May 3, 2007 @ 3:27 am

  127. Natura is made at Diamond plant( dry formulas)
    Wysong made at their own plant (dry formulas)
    don’t lnow about wellness
    Eaglepack made at their own plant (dry formulas)

    Comment by Jan — May 3, 2007 @ 3:43 am

  128. Mine were on Nutro (2 Scotties). Lamb and Rice Adult and Senior Chicken Dry. I am sure both are poisoned.

    Here’s the kicker…

    >>Closing of the purchase of Nutro from funds advised by Bain Capital Partners LLC, a global private investment firm, is subject to normal regulatory approvals which are expected to be completed within a few months. Terms of the deal were not disclosed.

    Comment by Pat — May 3, 2007 @ 3:50 am

  129. Oops part of my post didn’t appear…

    LLC means Nutro soon to be Mars cannot be sued over X amount. Limited Liability Company.

    Comment by Pat — May 3, 2007 @ 3:52 am

  130. Admittedly I haven’t read the full text. Asking for clarification.

    >>If you need any more arguments in favor of the FDA getting mandatory recall authority — which the amendment didn’t include at the end — go to the top of this post and start over.>>

    Are you saying that FDA still not going to have mandatory recall power or not???

    Sorry to be obtuse!

    Comment by Pat — May 3, 2007 @ 3:55 am

  131. >

    That would be my Scotties. Over range Alkaline Phosphatase.

    See their poor lil babies’ histories here under poisionings.

    http://scottishterrier.wetpain.....sonings%21

    They are well on their way now to Cushings and Cancer.

    Thanks Purina, Nutro, and Pedigree. Mostly Nutro. Remember this filthy they have fed ours forever is busy killing our animals, maybe not yesterday, maybe not today, but certainly will cut our animals’ lives short.

    Check on Scotties… the true canaries in the mine. Used for research on cancer for other breeds and people.

    No way am I feeding dog food again to my dogs. Besides after people food they wouldn’t touch the sawdust and glob anyway.

    Now if I can only figure out what is poison in human food now…

    Comment by Pat — May 3, 2007 @ 4:03 am

  132. RE: ONLY 1-2% of BRANDS WERE AFFECTED BY RECALL

    I agree. A quite large supermarket by me has only three (3) brands of wet dog food on the shelves. All of the blank spots left from the pulled cans & pouches have been replaced with bags and bags of dry.

    I saw the shelves just after the can & pouch pulls, and the aisle looked like a street in an abandoned town. Even the white shirt & tie manager with his perfectly creased pants was on his knees stocking dry bags of food to fill in the huge void.

    Maybe the 1% statistic is valid if every food production run since 1991, when the “spiking” industry began in China, is counted!

    ***Quote from several posts above - Can’t find poster’s name now - Sorry**

    Or how it “only affects 1% of pet food”. It sure seems like more than 1% to me, certainly from a risk standpoint, even if less than 1% of the pet population has confirmed illnesses and death so far.

    Comment by petlover — May 3, 2007 @ 5:47 am

  133. RE: Meaning of LLC: Limited Liability Company

    LLC also means that the company’s assets are completely separate from personal assets - can’t touch personal assets. That’s my understanding anyway…

    Comment by petlover — May 3, 2007 @ 5:55 am

  134. Of course, the executives, board of directors, and major stockholders are covered under LLC.
    Don’t you just wonder who these folks are? Rich get richer… connections to governments all over the world?

    GLOB, Glob, glob says Moose!

    Anyone uncovered if Mars (Pedigree) has any deaths associated w/ their pet foods? We fed our two 1/4 can a day of a palate we bought at Sam’s Club of Pedigree canned. Added to the toxic Nutro Dry (because mine hated the Nutro sawdust that was marketed as being healthy, wunnerful food).

    Thank you good fairy for beginning your probe on Monsanto. The boogers have these seeds that are supposed to kill insects. Roundup is the Registered formula. Most farmers unwittingly are using these to grow their crops. Monsanto dominates the market on seeds for crops and even garden seeds.

    Anyway, these killer seeds are killing bees all over the world. No bees, no pollination.

    Another bonus for Monsanto. These seeds are the kind the farmers can’t reuse as in the seeds produced from the tainted plants are sterile and cannot be brought forth to plant a new crop.

    Soooo now what? We are going to have a pickle figuring out what seeds we can use to grow our own food. What poor farmers are using these seeds that makeup our food supply ingredients?

    We love Monsanto! OH YES WE DO!

    So we are a buncha hippie fanatics now huh? Food Terr0rists? Pet Rights Terr0rists?

    So now Monsanto is after a company that advertises they don’t use their killer hormones?

    Bad lil company, bad. How could you go against the food supplier to the world of additives and seeds?

    Comment by Pat — May 3, 2007 @ 6:16 am

  135. Cut off… trying again…

    Please clarify for obtuse me…

    >>Durbin’s Amendment > FDA getting mandatory recall authority — which the amendment didn’t include at the end — go to the top of this post and start over.

    Comment by Pat — May 3, 2007 @ 6:21 am

  136. Juan mo time…

    FDA still NOT given mandatory recall authority?

    Is that what this says???

    Comment by Pat — May 3, 2007 @ 6:22 am

  137. I’m losing Cleo, I just know it :( I’m waiting for the vet to call to make a decision. I fear taking her to the vet and never having her come home again.

    I guess I’m finding out what happens 6 weeks or more after my dear kitty was diagnosed with RF. Throw in her thyroid problem and it feels like she never had a prayer.

    And now Triumph, which is what all of them have been on since this happened because the company assured me it was safe. I just can’t believe this…

    Comment by Sharon — May 3, 2007 @ 6:24 am

  138. RE: Kathi on low prices: chicken,pork, pet food

    The prices on chicken are extremely low this week. Cinco de Mayo sales have never been advertised in a large geographic area around here due to having much less diversity than other areas. “Barbecue Season” in my area doesn’t kick off till Memorial Day weekend. THEN you see good sales on chicken and pork ribs. I’m glad to say that I’ll be sitting these Memorial Day sales out this year, at least from buying meats from regular supermarkets.

    This week, the chicken breasts (boneless/skinless) are at RECORD LOWS at $1.49 per pound. Never has the price been this low, or I would have noticed in the past and would have bought 40 - 50 lbs. at once and frozen them.

    When I buy 15 - 20 lbs. at a time, I buy at the sale price of $1.99, the best price offered around here. Only once have I seen them for $1.89.

    Kathi, I’m also seeing huge sales on pet food. In fact, there was a full 2-page spread, as a taller than normal-sized insert, in one supermarket’s flyer this week. The larger sized paper insert sticking out of the top of the flyer definitely got my attention… NOT to buy the food.

    Just be critical readers and consumers. Read what’s there and also what’s not there. Both are telling.

    *****Comment by Kathi below************

    Be cautious of any food pet or human on “sale”
    Big 1/2 price sale on chicken and pork down here in NC just before the announcements. Same with pet foods.
    They had to squeeze the last nickle out.

    Comment by Kathi — May 2, 2007 @ 7:29 pm

    Comment by petlover — May 3, 2007 @ 6:26 am

  139. Human Food Research

    http://scottishterrier.wetpain.....d+Research

    We Dunlap Crew Clan made up a new page trying to begin my own human food inquiry since all of the Dunlap Clan - 2 bipeds and 2 quadpeds are now eating “people food.”

    Anyone have any questions to add?

    Anyone started their own inquiries and have a running list going of food companies who actually answer your questions?

    This would make a dandy new forum / blog? Somewhere for those of us that figured out it’s every hippie family’s job now to try to stay unpoisoned as much as possible.

    Comment by Pat — May 3, 2007 @ 6:28 am

  140. We Dunlap Crew Clan made up a new page trying to begin my own human food inquiry since all of the Dunlap Clan - 2 bipeds and 2 quadpeds are now eating “people food.”

    Anyone have any questions to add?

    Anyone started their own inquiries and have a running list going of food companies who actually answer your questions?

    This would make a dandy new forum / blog? Somewhere for those of us that figured out it’s every hippie family’s job now to try to stay unpoisoned as much as possible.

    Human Food Research

    http://scottishterrier.wetpain.....d+Research

    Comment by Pat — May 3, 2007 @ 6:34 am

  141. With regard to Europe, I posted this in the Itchmo.com Forums:

    http://64.79.216.38/~itchmo/fo.....opic=288.0

    I don’t have many answers, but maybe somebody else has some input.

    I’d also really like to know what those “two varieties for Europe” are that just got recalled. So far, a lot of Nutro pouches/cans have been recalled, but maybe this is something different?

    Comment by Kirsten — May 3, 2007 @ 6:44 am

  142. On another subject; Yesterday Canada found another cow that tested positive for BSE that was born AFTER their feed ban——-but I’m sure our USDA will tell us “not to worry” our food is safe, even tho we import cows younger that this from Canada all the time! USDA has submitted a proposed rule that we import ANY AGE live cattle from Canada!

    Needless to say the U.S. cattlemen are upset about this. What about the health and safety of OUR cattle herds and food supply???

    Comment by Elaine — May 3, 2007 @ 6:46 am

  143. Comment by Elaine — May 3, 2007 @ 6:46 am

    “The bald lies of some of the industry’s players would keep the best investigative reporters working 24-7.”

    Comment by Steve — May 3, 2007 @ 6:50 am

  144. OK I finally read the Durbin Amendment aren’t yall glad? To what bill BTW I miss that.

    No the amendment does NOT require FDA to force mandatory recalls.

    Read this last section…

    >>Section 8. Rule of Construction
    Establishes that nothing in the Act shall affect the treatment of dietary supplements.

    Comment by Pat — May 3, 2007 @ 6:58 am

  145. Drat cut off.. what am I doing wrong? Juan mo time. More -

    FDA is granting drug companies the rights make to prescription drugs of herbals and “homeopathics” vs. over the counter or even behind the pharmacy counter.

    ARGH! It was a docket of FDA for comment. Closed this Monday to be included in some sort of non-related bill.

    Anyone have a clue what bill and who is including it?

    There goes looking for herbal remedies like milk thistle to repair liver damage and protect for further damage w/o a prescription. Imagine what this will do to those of us lucky enough to still have company covered health insurance and prescription drug insurance. For those with no health insurance or prescription drug insurance. I can see companies no longer covering anyone because of absorbant costs or the employee contributions and co-payments going up…

    Or am I a fan@tic doom and gloom hippie?
    Or someone who loves her very much both biped and quadped?

    I was in the late 60s and 70s “hippie” generation of the boomers born in the early 50s. Now I am just hippy. :=)

    Comment by Pat — May 3, 2007 @ 7:00 am

  146. A good article: Is China slowly poisoning the World? Written by Dr. Moffet. His website is http://www.factinista.org. Sorry, folks, I don’t know how to attach the article to this post. (I’m old)

    Comment by Elaine — May 3, 2007 @ 7:17 am

  147. Hello,

    I’m not sure is this the proper place to post this. But I want others to know what I’m going through with “Natural Balance”. My dogs were eating their canned fish/sweet potato until the “Menu Foods” recall. The only canned food at Pet-Co by Natural Balance was venison/rice. My dogs are used to eating a varied diet, but once on this they developed extreme gas to the point that my older rottie was very ill.

    I called the company on April 13th., in the am to report this and was told the canned was not being recalled because rice protein concentrate WAS NOT in it. But I still wanted to let them know what was happening. Customer service was suppose to call me back that day, no call. I emailed about 5 times since then, received one reply from the east coast sales director who said he would get back to me very quickly as it was his personal email address and not corporate. He never did get back to me. Through another email list I found another employee’s email and send one to her. She did reply and referred me back to their website for further updates.

    My cat has been eating their regular dry cat food formula for years now. I am concerned about cross-contamination (which I thought of before this new recall), but they keep saying it is OK. Why has my cat now decided he does not want to eat their dry cat food? That is telling me something right there.

    I have been researching for alternatives to their food, dogs maybe California Natural canned fish (or back to homemade) and Houdini has been eating raw striper fish and raw chicken right now. The fish he always loved and gets that about 2 times a week. But for him to be eating any other raw type of meat is not usual. Please be careful if you are feeding Natural Balance Original Dry Cat Food Formula. My gut is telling me something is wrong with it. Houdini is telling me that too.

    Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this, but I want the word out there. American Nutrition did answer my email about how they process the foods, Natural Balance is saying American Nutrition put rice protein concentrate in their foods without their knowledge and American Nutrition is saying their make the food according to Natural Balance’s recipe…hmmmmm

    Also, could you direct me to the correct place to post this?

    Comment by Karen — May 3, 2007 @ 7:18 am

  148. People, wake up, this isn’t just about our dogs and cats anymore- FDA and USDA is banning *all* food imports and ingredients from China untile further notice- at least one major teaching hospital has stopped using soy-based baby formulas for newborns because of fear of melamine contamination, and protein shakes used to put weight on human cancer patients including Ensure contain potentially contaminated soy and grain products whose point of origin we don’t know, and no one is testing them for melamine either- and how about the tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands of chickens fed on contaminated grain? This is about the danger to our entire food supply, and oncologists and neonate hospitals might not be picking up on a problem because babies and people with chronic illness would be expected to have kidney problems anyway- Not only do you need to watch what you feed your animals, watch what you’re eating and what you’re giving to your babies, the chronically ill, and the elderly. And China has been doing this for a long time, people should be looking for long-term rises in kidney disease, not just short-term

    Comment by Louise O'Shaughnessy — May 3, 2007 @ 7:48 am

  149. The “big” sale on human food is just a coincidence!!! As for petfood being on sale, maybe stores are looking at this as a way to get new customers into their store? Maybe more marketing at play than Black helicopter theory?

    Comment by Tidsy — May 3, 2007 @ 7:53 am

  150. I’m getting so paranoid. 3 of my 4 cats’ bloodwork was done back in January for various reasons - one is getting older so wanted a baseline for kidney values, etc. One stopped eating the various canned foods (some of them recalled foods)I was trying to gete my CRF cat to eat. A week later my CRF cat caught a cold and wasn’t eating so they checked her kidney values. My boy who stopped eating his bloodwork came back normal except his blood count indicated maybe he had been fighting an infection. Now I worry that the bloodwork may have been useless. We did have someone urinate outside the litterbox about a month ago. We tried to figure out who it was with no luck.

    Oh, none of my cats will touch wet food anymore. Doesn’t matter what brand - even Innova. My husband told me I am being ultra sensitive to my cats’ every move. He says they are fine. Already having one with kidney failure I am so afraid I will miss something in one of my other cats.

    Comment by Brandi — May 3, 2007 @ 8:10 am

  151. Louise, I agree with that! I love my pets, but there is a much bigger picture here, and it is frustrating to me that the focus of some is just which pet food to feed their pets?

    We need to concentrate on FOOD SAFETY for people and pets. The U.S. farmers and ranchers provide us with the safest food supply in the whole world, and yet, we are shipping in poison crap from other countries!

    Concentrate on informing congress and the news media.

    Comment by Elaine — May 3, 2007 @ 8:12 am

  152. Someone commented above about Monsanto coming after those “rascally Amish” :) and their hormone free milk. I have been giving my felines goat’s milk which is great, but today at the store I am going to look for Amish milk. Everyone out there contributing to the food supply who is trying to do the right thing needs our support and encouragement.

    Comment by elizabeth R. — May 3, 2007 @ 8:47 am

  153. Good luck getting Amish milk, you may be searching for a long time……

    Comment by Tidsy — May 3, 2007 @ 8:48 am

  154. I wouldn’t support the Amish by purchasing their milk even if I could get it. Ever Google for “amish puppy mills”? It’s truly frightening what turns up. Here’s an article about one of them dated 5/2/07: http://www.wjactv.com/news/13244243/detail.html

    I’m not saying the two are tied together but ick.
    I can’t handle anything related to puppy mills. :-(

    Comment by Ally — May 3, 2007 @ 9:18 am

  155. Fellow Pets!

    Since we are all lumped into being hippies,
    We Dunlap Clanners say good!

    Momma says she enjoyed it the first time! LOTS!

    Soooo I told Mommy that we should just throw up our paws and go somewhere as far away from globs as possible.

    We have yet to convince Daddy.
    But I am a Scotty like Neyll and Mommy.
    We never give up; never give in,

    You may enjoy my Government Contacts Pages and my editorial GLOB comments.

    The only thing I haven’t had time to do is put all the congress.org records in there of some key members complete w/ PAC contributions information.

    I will later after I get over the recent globs thrown at me. :=}

    We have to pick up Daddy. We have missed him very much!

    http://scottishterrier.wetpain.....t+Contacts

    http://scottishterrier.wetpain.....+%3E+Foods

    Aroooo!

    Mr. Moosey

    Comment by Pat — May 3, 2007 @ 9:20 am

  156. The Amish have puppy mills? Surely they don’t.

    Comment by Linda — May 3, 2007 @ 9:22 am

  157. WOW, not even the amish can be trusted now!!!

    Comment by Tidsy — May 3, 2007 @ 9:24 am

  158. Comment by Linda — May 3, 2007 @ 9:22 am

    Linda, I never would’ve guessed they did. When I came across that news story I posted above, I was beyond shocked so went and Googled. What turned up made me queasy beyond belief.

    Comment by Ally — May 3, 2007 @ 9:29 am

  159. RE: AUNTGRANNY: Whistle Blowers

    This is why mainstream print and broadcast media are reporting a much lesser story than this pet food & human food crisis is.

    Also, remember the female FDA vet/scientist who “whistleblew” on a drug that was killing dogs and wanted it removed from the market and was “reassigned” to taking care of monkeys and rats? Does anyone have the link or her name? She later won a “Vet of the Year” award.

    Important paragraphs from the livescience . com article on rBST in milk & Monsato strong-arming broadcast media referenced by Aunt Granny above.

    “Monsanto was aggressive about rBGH from the get-go and infamously stopped a Fox news affiliate in Florida in the early 1990s from broadcasting a report on it, which most consumers knew nothing about because of the lack of labeling. When the reporters, Jane Akre and Steve Wilson, refused to yield, Fox fired them.

    Ultimately the plan backfired after the reporters successfully sued Fox under the Florida whistle-blower law and eventually won the 2001 International Goldman Environmental Prize.”

    ******************************

    Any whistleblowers out there? You may initially get fired, but you can gain a WHOLE LOT MORE WHEN YOU SUE YOUR COMPANY — A BIG CHUNK OF MONEY! $$$$$$$

    Comment by petlover — May 3, 2007 @ 9:30 am

  160. Sorry, dont have any insider info on the pet food company I work for, WISH I DID!!!

    Comment by Tidsy — May 3, 2007 @ 9:40 am

  161. I don’t know why all these other websites can get info posted soon after the recalls!

    Here is PetSmart statement with complete lists of what they carry:

    http://phx.corporate-ir.net/ph.....set18#may2
    —-

    FDA STILL has 4-27-07, as most recent! GET WITH IT! Their complete list says 5-3-07, but it does NOT include the new MenuFoods items.

    http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/.....oodrecall/
    —-

    Comment by Kat — May 3, 2007 @ 9:44 am

  162. Victoria Hampshire

    Comment by shelly — May 3, 2007 @ 9:52 am

  163. http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/518494

    Comment by shelly — May 3, 2007 @ 9:53 am

  164. Kat - they sleep, we don’t. (yawn)

    Comment by Kim — May 3, 2007 @ 9:54 am

  165. http://www.whistleblower.org/t.....age_id=141

    Comment by shelly — May 3, 2007 @ 9:56 am

  166. Great Timing!
    May 14-18 is “Washington Whistle Blower” Week

    http://www.whistleblower.org/c.....ess_id=987

    Comment by shelly — May 3, 2007 @ 9:59 am

  167. Hi,
    How many high profile vets advised that the ingredients label be trusted? Now it looks like they were participants in a coverup. Will the vets admit they don’t know what is going on in the pet food industry. At least?

    Comment by Scott — May 3, 2007 @ 10:13 am

  168. Have you all seen this? From the AVMA site within the last hour. Please note the phrase “please be advised that the Menu Foods list appears to be changing throughout the day”.

    Breaking news
    May 3, 2007 (11:25 am CDT)
    Menu Foods adds to recall list

    Menu Foods has previously recalled wet cat and dog food produced with adulterated wheat gluten supplied by ChemNutra Inc. Menu Foods is now expanding the recall to include cuts and gravy and select other products which do not include ChemNutra wheat gluten but which were manufactured at any of Menu Foods’ plants during the period that ChemNutra wheat gluten was used at that plant, to the extent they have not already been subject to a recall, due to the possibility of cross-contamination. Menu Foods has received a report from a customer and has received study results, both of which indicate cross-contamination.

    Menu Foods currently lists at least 220 products being added today to its existing list of recalled products as of 11:25 am CDT. Please be advised that the Menu Foods list appears to be changing throughout the day; concerned pet owners should check either the Menu Foods Web site or the AVMA Web site frequently for updates to this information.

    For more information, see the Menu Foods press release at http://www.menufoods.com/recal.....022007.htm.

    Comment by Carole — May 3, 2007 @ 10:17 am

  169. Let me clarify…I knew about the additional recall. I just thought the ‘list is changing’ comment is worth noting. First time I’ve seen that mentioned today.

    Comment by Carole — May 3, 2007 @ 10:20 am

  170. SHELLY: Good Find “WASHINGTON WHISTLBLOWER WEEK” MAY 14 - 18, 2007

    Step right up, all whistleblowers.

    Thanks for the link about Dr. Victoria Hampshire, the FDA vet who spoke out about the harmful ProHeart 6 (heart worm) drug that was killing dogs.

    At first, Dr. Hampshire was called an alarmist and was pushing too hard. The woman was just doing her job.

    We need more heroes like Dr Victoria Hampshire.

    ***Below, an article by Jeff Donn, AP writer, article in Chicago Tribune:

    http://www.legacy.com/chicagot.....roupId=301

    Comment by petlover — May 3, 2007 @ 10:21 am

  171. I can’t take any more bad news so I didn’t read the story about the puppy mills that the Amish own. I am on bad and sad - news story overload. I have no more illusions these days about much of anything. Time to pet a puppy and drink ice tea and chant peace and ring little bells……

    Comment by Linda — May 3, 2007 @ 10:27 am

  172. Linda, I know what you mean. I found that puppy mill article by accident when checking the latest news stories. Apologies if I added to your sadness. We’ve all been through too much as of late.

    Comment by Ally — May 3, 2007 @ 11:02 am

  173. Comment by petlover 3:19am

    Yes and Steve Wilson came to work for WXYZ-TV Channel 7 in Southfield, Mi. He’s still doing his investigative reporting and rankling feathers and I for one love it.

    Comment by VJ — May 3, 2007 @ 11:08 am

  174. Correction it was petlovers comment of 9:30am about the whistleblowers in Florida. Get my eyes checked on Monday.

    Comment by VJ — May 3, 2007 @ 11:12 am

  175. >> Great Timing!
    May 14-18 is “Washington Whistle Blower” Week

    http://www.whistleblower.org/c.....ess_id=987

    Comment by Pat — May 3, 2007 @ 12:21 pm

  176. Juan mo time…

    Go gettum muckrakers! Just remember not to put your faith in any earthly leaders. They will indeed let you down.

    We will be joining my cousin who has 2 goldens poisoned. One has a large mass in her gastro-intestinal tract. The other too young to die yet. They both eat Purina Pro (Nestle, home of the now Gerber baby foods moving to Pakistan)

    We will be meeting a new friend where we are and hug her lots. Her cat want one of them murdered.

    Yall whistleblow lots for our family please.

    Keep track of the sell outs. Who dumps stock and who buys it. Now we know that Nutro dumped a bunch huh along w/ the LLC cover.

    Another thing to tweet…

    Find out about where all over the world Monsantos killer seed is sown. There well be no bees. Check in the US. I know for instance Ohio (corn crops city) have disappearing bees.

    Then stock up on NON Roundup Monsanto seed along w/ seeds for herbals.

    Next head for the hills.

    Love your family very much. Never fail to tell them you love them. Live with joy. Live simply. And a good healthy dose of the best selling book of all time. Leave the rest to God.

    The most helpful page we have to finish building — just matter of cut and pastes…

    † Inspirationals †

    † The Lord’s Prayer

    † His Eye Is on The Sparrow

    † Rainbow Bridge Story

    † For the Animals, Bible Verses

    †

    http://scottishterrier.wetpain.....+%E2%80%A0

    Comment by Pat — May 3, 2007 @ 12:23 pm

  177. I was grocery shopping today at our local Walmart. People were carrying out 2 and 3 big pork roasts at a time. Yup pork was on sale.

    I also received a reply from Butterball about their ground turkey.
    “As you are aware, a nationwide recall is being conducted on pet food containing wheat gluten imported from China. The wheat gluten is contaminated with the chemical melamine and has been associated with the death of several cats and dogs.” SEVERAL…. SEVERAL amazing

    “The nutritionists at Butterball formulate feed specifically for our birds, taking into account bird age, the location of the farm and the time of year the bird is being fed. We have conducted a thorough review of the feed ingredients and suppliers and determined that no grains or protein-based ingredients used in the blending of feed for growing Butterball turkeys has been imported from China. In fact, Butterball, LLC does not formulate feed using wheat, rice or corn gluten ingredients.”

    Not I’m not celebrating but hopefully both Perdue and Butterball were telling the truth and we won’t starve this month. No Tyson chicken patties for the people in the house this month. Guess the dogs will be getting no store brand chicken just Perdue and they already only eat Butterball ground turkey.

    Comment by Maureen (Lilly and Lucy's mom) — May 3, 2007 @ 12:38 pm

  178. The Amish puppy mill situation is a long time known and fought thing here in Pennsylvania. They are just another kind of crop for them. Can’t imagine what they are being fed.

    Comment by Cathy — May 3, 2007 @ 1:01 pm

  179. To me, the people that are using Fancy Feast and Purina are not having a problem. I’ve been using Fancy Feast. As soon as I went out and bought some expensive Natural Balance it was recalled and I worried about having fed some. The Purina hasn’t had many recalls.

    Comment by Diane — May 3, 2007 @ 1:18 pm

  180. The pork and chicken sale I was refering to before being accused of ALARMIST and Black Helicopter stuff happened on APRIL 18 BEFORE the announcement of California hog farms on the 19th.
    The chicken breasts and pork chops were half the usual prices and way below the regular sales prices even during any other holidays throughout the year. That sale had nothing to do with whatever holiday was mentioned above that we don’t celebrate around here. Don’t know if that holiday has anything to do with the world May Day celebrations or not. But the point is those sale prices happened just days before the PUBLIC announcement yet the problem was known on April 3.
    The pattern of “SALES” is the same as with the pet food sales just before each weekly recall.
    I would invite anyone disagreeing with this to go back through the past blogs and read about this “SALE” issue and the public recalls. 8)

    Comment by Kathi — May 3, 2007 @ 1:53 pm

  181. I’m using Pro Plan and having great success! My fluff is lov’n it!

    Comment by Tidsy — May 3, 2007 @ 1:53 pm

  182. Kathi, 100% disagree with you!!! In a perfect conspiracy world, companies would have everything on sale just before a recall.

    Comment by Tidsy — May 3, 2007 @ 1:56 pm

  183. Tidsy
    You can believe whatever you desire, but before you refer to me as Alarmist or Conspiracy crap I suggest you look into this more deeply.
    In my life which is quite long no one has ever referred to me as being other than calm, cool, collected and NEVER EVER panicky about anything.
    You can state your own opinions but do not refer to me personally anymore. 8)

    Comment by Kathi — May 3, 2007 @ 2:08 pm

  184. I can’t find the names of the 2 products recalled in Europe. I am more worried than ever now. We were going to the local pet store to get help on finding a safe food for our cat to eat. She’s been eating Whiskas and the vet said that it is the worst cat food on the market……pure junk. She’s so picky too. I’m so afraid to feed her anything made in the U.S. now. She is being treated for a lung infection right now and I sure don’t want to feed her poison with her immune system being down. If anyone finds out what the 2 brands are in the EU please please please post it.

    Comment by Tammy — May 3, 2007 @ 2:13 pm

  185. I guess the last 10 years in the retail industry…. I was scammed to run ads because of vendors trying to off-load product before the FDA or another agency made announcements or a recall was made.

    I guess retailers are only lowering prices to offload contaminated product (which somehow they knew of weeks in advance). Instead of trying to win customers with new promotions or trying new pricing strategies. Or trying new loss leader items.

    Comment by Tidsy — May 3, 2007 @ 2:13 pm

  186. Tammy
    Icouldn’t find them either. Phil from England said they would be in grams instead of ounces. There are a few in grams, so maybe they might be the EU products that don’t say specifically Canada.
    It would be nice if they were more clear about the products on the lists.
    But, hey, that’s been the problem all along.
    Of course, we’re the ones who are confused and hysterical!!! 8)

    Comment by Kathi — May 3, 2007 @ 2:22 pm

  187. No doubt! I think my vet things i’m being hysterical. They just have that uncanny way of looking at you that tells you, “Lady, you’re being ridiculous.” Not to mention family members think I’m cuckoo and paranoid. I say, “Whatever” because so far all the information I’ve sent them was before it was even publicly released. I have stopped emailing them with updates. I told them not to be surprised if it ended up in the human food source. But I’M the crazy one….LOL. Go figure!

    Comment by Tammy — May 3, 2007 @ 2:52 pm

  188. Tammy
    Somebody ate those 3 million chickens. Hope I’m not one of them. 8)

    Comment by Kathi — May 3, 2007 @ 2:56 pm

  189. That’s a lot of d**n chicken! But no worries you have the dilution effect :D

    Comment by Tammy — May 3, 2007 @ 3:25 pm

  190. Melamine fried chicken… Cyanuric acid roast pork. Solving the Social Security budget problem one senior at a time.

    FDA says melamine feed chickens don’t pose any risk to humans. Perhaps it’s wishful thinking.

    Neoplastic and preneoplastic lesions induced by melamine in rat urothelium are modulated by dietary polyunsaturated fatty acids.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/en.....;DB=pubmed

    Comment by Larry — May 3, 2007 @ 5:15 pm

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