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	<title>Comments on: Pet-food recall: New job at FDA, and Tuesday open thread</title>
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		<title>By: katandbryant@yahoo.com</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/01/tuesday-open-thread-deadline-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-49921</link>
		<dc:creator>katandbryant@yahoo.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 22:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ABC News actually had a good indepth report.  Had an interview with NYT writer David Barboza -- one author of the &quot;mystery article&quot; on Sun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ABC News actually had a good indepth report.  Had an interview with NYT writer David Barboza &#8212; one author of the &#8220;mystery article&#8221; on Sun.</p>
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		<title>By: katandbryant@yahoo.com</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/01/tuesday-open-thread-deadline-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-49920</link>
		<dc:creator>katandbryant@yahoo.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 22:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>**** Is anyone having trouble loading the FDA Live Weblog page?

I keep getting an &quot;IE has encountered a problem....&quot;  This is the ONLY page that I&#039;m having trouble with.  I&#039;ve been able to load numerous other pages, just not this one.  I&#039;ve even rebooted. 

Thanx!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>**** Is anyone having trouble loading the FDA Live Weblog page?</p>
<p>I keep getting an &#8220;IE has encountered a problem&#8230;.&#8221;  This is the ONLY page that I&#8217;m having trouble with.  I&#8217;ve been able to load numerous other pages, just not this one.  I&#8217;ve even rebooted. </p>
<p>Thanx!</p>
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		<title>By: VJ</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/01/tuesday-open-thread-deadline-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-49909</link>
		<dc:creator>VJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 22:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the WDIV video on undercover story, the factory they showed was in Detroit. If you listen to the video again Kevin Dietz specifically says &quot;....this one in Detroit&quot;. Doubt there was any way for them to get into MF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the WDIV video on undercover story, the factory they showed was in Detroit. If you listen to the video again Kevin Dietz specifically says &#8220;&#8230;.this one in Detroit&#8221;. Doubt there was any way for them to get into MF</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 20:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard directly from the NY Times reporter who&#039;s been following this and directed him to the FDA import alert where they admit they&#039;ve counted the number of deaths reported to them and quote numbers.

I&#039;m hoping to get those numbers in the NY Times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard directly from the NY Times reporter who&#8217;s been following this and directed him to the FDA import alert where they admit they&#8217;ve counted the number of deaths reported to them and quote numbers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping to get those numbers in the NY Times.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/01/tuesday-open-thread-deadline-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-49694</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 18:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the NY Times article the chinese were using urea as an additive to raise nitrogen (protein) levels in the product, they stopped whn it was making the animals sick. They have been using the melamine additive for a while now and probably did the same thing, keep adding the melamine to the product until the customer complaints start(animals dying). I wonder if the lesser amounts of melamine that they have been adding has been causing the increase in kidney disease in cats for the last 15 years or so, and have just reached the lethal levels in the last batches?.  The lack of inspections and inspectors at FDA has been good for business interests profits, but has probably allowed our pets to get sick!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the NY Times article the chinese were using urea as an additive to raise nitrogen (protein) levels in the product, they stopped whn it was making the animals sick. They have been using the melamine additive for a while now and probably did the same thing, keep adding the melamine to the product until the customer complaints start(animals dying). I wonder if the lesser amounts of melamine that they have been adding has been causing the increase in kidney disease in cats for the last 15 years or so, and have just reached the lethal levels in the last batches?.  The lack of inspections and inspectors at FDA has been good for business interests profits, but has probably allowed our pets to get sick!</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/01/tuesday-open-thread-deadline-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-49652</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 17:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot help but wonder if Dr. Acheson has ever been in the pay of &quot;Big Food&quot; or allied corporations. It always seems to be a factor particularly at the FDA where vitamins are always condemned, but &quot;Big Pharma&quot; can do no wrong. Does anyone know his history?

Also, from the other thread, I posted this.

See the full article at:

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/05/01/news/fda.php

However, you might hurry as the IHT pulled a critical article of Chinese practices over the weekend and I haven&#039;t seen it in full again.


NEW YORK: Early in the 20th century, the safeguarding of food at American ports often amounted to inspectors from the Food and Drug Administration prying open containers of molasses or sugar and examining them for mold or insect parts.

The FDA has come a way since then, but not much more.

Last year, inspectors sampled just 20,662 shipments out of the more than 8.9 million that arrived at American ports. China, which in one decade has become the third-largest exporter of food, by value, to the United States, sent 199,000 shipments, of which less than 2 percent were sampled, former officials with the agency said.

Now, as the agency&#039;s inspectors travel to China to investigate the source of contaminated pet food that has killed at least 16 dogs and cats and sickened thousands of others, critics in Washington are warning that the agency is woefully understaffed and underfinanced to keep America&#039;s food supply safe.

Another excerpt:
&quot;Emulsifiers&quot; or &quot;stabilizers&quot; found in chewing gums and candies, for example, increasingly come from sub-Saharan Africa and Pakistan, Hubbard, the former agency official, said.
Imports of milling industry products like wheat gluten, while still small, have more than doubled in value since 1996. Food processors use glutens to raise protein content and thicken everything from candy bars to pet food.
&quot;In the same meal these days, we may be eating food from several regions of the world,&quot; said Caroline Smith DeWaal, the director of food safety for the Center for Science in the Public Interest, a Washington lobbying group. &quot;But you get what you pay for in terms of food safety. These food processors may be looking for a cheap new source, but they may pay for it down the line.&quot;

I have e-mailed them regarding the updated numbers available from the FDA. Hopefully, this &quot;urban legend&quot; of so few deaths will go away at some point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot help but wonder if Dr. Acheson has ever been in the pay of &#8220;Big Food&#8221; or allied corporations. It always seems to be a factor particularly at the FDA where vitamins are always condemned, but &#8220;Big Pharma&#8221; can do no wrong. Does anyone know his history?</p>
<p>Also, from the other thread, I posted this.</p>
<p>See the full article at:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/05/01/news/fda.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.iht.com/articles/20.....ws/fda.php</a></p>
<p>However, you might hurry as the IHT pulled a critical article of Chinese practices over the weekend and I haven&#8217;t seen it in full again.</p>
<p>NEW YORK: Early in the 20th century, the safeguarding of food at American ports often amounted to inspectors from the Food and Drug Administration prying open containers of molasses or sugar and examining them for mold or insect parts.</p>
<p>The FDA has come a way since then, but not much more.</p>
<p>Last year, inspectors sampled just 20,662 shipments out of the more than 8.9 million that arrived at American ports. China, which in one decade has become the third-largest exporter of food, by value, to the United States, sent 199,000 shipments, of which less than 2 percent were sampled, former officials with the agency said.</p>
<p>Now, as the agency&#8217;s inspectors travel to China to investigate the source of contaminated pet food that has killed at least 16 dogs and cats and sickened thousands of others, critics in Washington are warning that the agency is woefully understaffed and underfinanced to keep America&#8217;s food supply safe.</p>
<p>Another excerpt:<br />
&#8220;Emulsifiers&#8221; or &#8220;stabilizers&#8221; found in chewing gums and candies, for example, increasingly come from sub-Saharan Africa and Pakistan, Hubbard, the former agency official, said.<br />
Imports of milling industry products like wheat gluten, while still small, have more than doubled in value since 1996. Food processors use glutens to raise protein content and thicken everything from candy bars to pet food.<br />
&#8220;In the same meal these days, we may be eating food from several regions of the world,&#8221; said Caroline Smith DeWaal, the director of food safety for the Center for Science in the Public Interest, a Washington lobbying group. &#8220;But you get what you pay for in terms of food safety. These food processors may be looking for a cheap new source, but they may pay for it down the line.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have e-mailed them regarding the updated numbers available from the FDA. Hopefully, this &#8220;urban legend&#8221; of so few deaths will go away at some point.</p>
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		<title>By: shelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>shelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 17:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joyce</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/01/tuesday-open-thread-deadline-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-49578</link>
		<dc:creator>Joyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 15:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to email the link to the Wysong company, since they seem to be so supportive of Menu...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to email the link to the Wysong company, since they seem to be so supportive of Menu&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/01/tuesday-open-thread-deadline-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-49574</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 15:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seeing that Menu Plant made me want to projectile vomit.</description>
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		<title>By: shelly</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/05/01/tuesday-open-thread-deadline-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-49572</link>
		<dc:creator>shelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 15:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who sees that video would never buy a Menu product again that&#039;s for sure. That was disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who sees that video would never buy a Menu product again that&#8217;s for sure. That was disgusting.</p>
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