Pet food recall: Weekend update and open thread
By Christie Keith
April 29, 2007
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This is Christie’s late night edition of the open thread, since the old one had over 300 comments and was loading a little slowly.
I have only one additional update tonight. The USDA issued a joint media release with the FDA. There are some interesting details about the timeline, although it’s not new information, I think it’s something that hasn’t fully been discussed as it pertains to pets – emphasis mine:
As reported on April 22 by FDA, the Agency determined that rice protein concentrate imported from China was contaminated with melamine and melamine-related compounds. The product was imported by Wilbur-Ellis, an importer and distributor of agricultural products. Although the company began importing product from China in August 2006, the company did not become aware of the contamination until April 2007. As part of the ongoing investigation, FDA has determined the rice protein was used in the production of pet food and a portion of the pet food was used to produce animal feed. The ongoing investigation is tracing products distributed since August 2006 by Wilbur-Ellis throughout the distribution chain.
The release was mostly concerned with the impact on human health, although it doesn’t appear to consider the possiblity that humans might be exposed to the contamination in anything other than pork:
The assessment that, if there were to be harm to human health, it would be very low, is based on a number of factors, including the dilution of the contaminating melamine and melamine-related compounds from the original rice protein concentrate as it moves through the food system. First it is a partial ingredient in the pet food; second, it is only part of the total feed given to the hogs; third, it is not known to accumulate in the hogs and the hogs excrete melamine in their urine; fourth, even if present in pork, pork is only a small part of the average American diet. Neither FDA nor USDA has uncovered any evidence of harm to the swine from the contaminated feed. In addition to the dilutional factor and the lack of evidence of illnesses in the swine fed the waste pet food, we are not aware of any human illness that has occurred from exposure to melamine or its by-products. While the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention systems would have limited ability to detect subtle problems due to melamine and melamine-related compounds, no problems have been detected to date. To further evaluate any potential harm to humans, the FDA is developing and implementing further tests and risk assessments based on the toxicity of the compounds and how much of the compounds consumers could be expected to actually consume.
The full media release is here.
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SLEUTHS!
Too often several of us are [unbeknownst to the other] researching the same information, or information others found weeks ago. Typical case in point: Bernie and NPN’s. Newcomers have no way of knowing what’s been covered in the past. There is no way to easily resurrect old blogs and query them. [Or is there and I just don’t know about it?] Time spent going over and over the same information could be better spent researching new grounds.
I’ve suggested in the past:
1. that we need an archive of specific topics
2. that we should break down into “topic teams” to put the archive together [and add new information when it appears]
My Concept:
TOPIC TEAMS: In the absence of a forum, individual “Topic Teams” should serve. Any interested blog member may select a topic and join it. No one needs to be a biochemist in order to join the biochem Topic Team, for example. No member is limited to just one topic. Not all blog members need to join a Topic Team at all. Topic Teams “own” the archived information related to that topic. They will insure that all related information is, orderly, referenced, and centralized in such a way so that others may have access to the information. In this manner, we won’t have to go over the same material that’s already been outed.
ADMINISTRATOR: There should be an overall administrator who connects a person wanting to be part of a topic team to the others in the group, including exchange of email addresses. From that point the members of each topic team are charged with pulling together all resources on that topic, referencing their research, writing it up in an organized fashion, and archiving the topic for use by others [read-only].
Here are some topics that I think can use teams:
~ FDA
~ Food Brokers [e.g., ChemNutra, Wilbur-Ellis]
~ Pet Food Recall Lists [Anomalies, issues]
~ Pet Food Manufacturers [Need a database here]
~ Patents
~ Timelines
~ Hearings
~ Biochemistry [Melamine, Urea, NPN’s…]
~ Labs, Forensics
~ Chinese BioChemists: Background
~ News Media
~ Home Made Foods: Recipes
~ Many Other topics
Anyone else see the usefulness of teaming partners?
Have I made you cringe? [My heart’s in the right place!]
Comment by Lynn — April 29, 2007 @ 1:15 am
Some pharmaceuticals used cyanuric acid in their antibiotics and fungicides. Knowing that the scientists at Univ of Guelph discovered that malamine and cyanuric acid, combined with other chemicals normally found in a dog or cat’s body, could effect a toxic reaction, I began to wonder if any of the pets that died of tainted food were also on antibiotics or fungicides before their deaths.
To date I’ve had only a few responses. Please help me conduct this poll which I have added to Itchmo’s website: http://64.79.216.38/~itchmo/fo.....54#msg1254
I would really appreciate your adding your information.
Comment by Lynn — April 29, 2007 @ 1:16 am
You would think by now I would not cringe whenever I hear or read that only 16 [or 18 on a “good” day] deaths have occurred. How can those disgustingly small numbers possibly NOT affect any of us?
On a few occasions I suggested that Gina send me a copy of the database that contains the death and illness information for the deceased and sick pets. I want to remove the sensitive ownership info, clean up the file, remove redundancies, and create a professional document, complete with stats. Once completed, it should be forwarded to targeted news media at all major broadcast networks in major cities, to known reporters, AP, etc.
My feeling is that once they see that we’re not pulling numbers out of the air, they might actually begin thinking Pet Connection’s numbers are indeed credible.
I believe we should assemble a task team to personally contact specific reporters, station managers, and particularly AP, and present them with the database.
I really believe the absence of news media attention is hurting us terribly. [I am not referring to television show hosts as they are often mandated to not become involved with any issue to which a station advertiser/sponsor might object.]
Do you think this is worth a shot?
Comment by Lynn — April 29, 2007 @ 1:17 am
Why not also print a scatter map of the pet deaths, based on zip code?
Date of death, age of pet at death, and pet foods consumed would also be useful, and more provocative.
4500 vs. 16 isn’t very useful, is it?
Comment by leek — April 29, 2007 @ 1:47 am
There is already frappr.com map located on
The Pets Need A Voice To site. They are the folks who oganizeed the national march yesterday.
Go there to add your pet.-
There area bout 50 pets n there now.
nancy
http://www.pnv2.com
scroll down….
Comment by nancy — April 29, 2007 @ 2:53 am
Lynn, Itchmo already has forums set up, and is a more appropriate place for breaking things down in topics. I don’t know why an administrator is needed. Why not just start appropriate topics over there?
Comment by CathyA — April 29, 2007 @ 4:00 am
Nurto site is an error page, through several different routes, it’s gone. Menu is still there, but the Nurto isn’t. What happened to it?
Comment by Maudigan — April 29, 2007 @ 5:37 am
FDA press release is not even correct for dates…
In the Wilber-Ellis recall,
http://tinyurl.com/2wvvpj
“Wilbur-Ellis began importing rice protein concentrate from Binzhou Futian Biology Technology in JULY 2006.” Caps for emphasis-mine
In the above blogged media release they say,
“Although the company began importing product from China in AUGUST 2006” Caps again, mine for emphasis.
That really bloody well stinks.
Comment by Gracie — April 29, 2007 @ 5:38 am
E. Hamilton has been asking for volunteers to do something similar. So, I set up a forum over at itchmo last night called Medical Costs for Treating Affected Pets. The information will be used to demonstrate the economic impact on all of us. I’m asking that people be as specific as possible. So, gather up your vet bills and come on over. I would like actual numbers if at all possible. However, I do understand that many people have probably not saved their records, so I will be taking estimates also. But I will be keeps actuals and estimates separately. In order to be credible we need a lot of respondents, so people, please respond. I know that this situation has caused economic hardships…this is your chance to speak out and demonstrate it.
Comment by Marilyn — April 29, 2007 @ 5:47 am
I want to also add to my previous post about Medical Costs for Treating Affected Pets…
Even if the expenses have not been an economic hardship for you, please post. I did not mean to imply that I’m only looking for hardship cases. I’m looking for all medical expenses associated with the contaminated pet food. That would also include people who took their pets in for testing even if they weren’t sure they had eaten any of the food. Acting on suspicions and fear count, too.
Comment by Marilyn — April 29, 2007 @ 5:57 am
Comment by Lynn — April 29, 2007 @ 1:15 am
-Suspicious activities
-Lies, Spin, Coverups
Don’t forget that!
“Just the facts”
;-)
Comment by Steve — April 29, 2007 @ 6:01 am
Maudigan,hi Did u mean Nutro, http://www.nutroproducts.com or Natura which is,Innova and California Natural that site is http://www.naturapet.com. Last nite someone told me he google is NUTRO DRY FOOD SAFE AND There was this site,hub page, and so many pets died from Nutro dry food or are very sick from it.I think what ever happen to the Pet Food it started this Summer,this is when i notice my dogs started to drink so much more water and the bag of food had a FUNKY Smell to it. they were on Nutro after i took them off of it.they are so much better. I put them on California Natural Lamb and Rice they love it. good luck
Comment by Mary Ann — April 29, 2007 @ 6:19 am
what ever happened with the rat poison. those first folks found it in a sample, then FDA said it was not in anything they tested and it went away. But are they still testing anything for it?
Comment by Bonni — April 29, 2007 @ 6:22 am
Some of the dialogue on the Internet surely tests the limits of conventional discourse. Speech on the Internet can be unfiltered, unpolished, and unconventional, even emotionally charged, sexually explicit, and vulgar — in a word, ‘indecent’ in many communities. But we should expect such speech to occur in a medium in which citizens from all walks of life have a voice.
quoting public documents offers immunity in libel suits.
Comment by Steve — April 29, 2007 @ 6:24 am
Maudigan, you need to type the address in, i try to click onto it from my last post did not work. http://www.naturapet.com
Comment by Mary Ann — April 29, 2007 @ 6:25 am
Maudigan ,this is strange now it works from last comment. i need a pot of coffee
Comment by Mary Ann — April 29, 2007 @ 6:28 am
Steve, I’m not getting what you’re trying to say?
Comment by Pat — April 29, 2007 @ 6:34 am
Thanks for the help Mary Ann. I am still getting an error page up, from everywhere I have tried to get there, directly or indirectly. Sorry we can not find this page, try……several more avenues, no luck. And my luck already ran out Mary Ann, April 9, 2007, because they still haven’t recalled the dog food that took my hero dog. I am freaked that it is still out there on the market and that other hero dogs might be eating it.
Comment by Maudigan — April 29, 2007 @ 6:40 am
nutro does not come up for me either. maybe a hub is down somewhere and that would explain why some can get and some not
Comment by Bonni — April 29, 2007 @ 6:45 am
my comment where i gave nutro web address click it and i got it .I’m So Sorry about the loss of your pet. What Food was Your Dog On?
Comment by Mary Ann — April 29, 2007 @ 7:03 am
Comment by Pat — April 29, 2007 @ 6:34 am
Oh, I’m referring the facts. Just the facts.
Pet Food Industry is in a bad jam. If not a complete meltdown.
We’ll leave it at that.
I didn’t create the situation they are in.
THEY DID.
Comment by Steve — April 29, 2007 @ 7:08 am
Thank you again Mary Ann. Still won’t let me in to the Nutro site, Menu yes, but nothing past there. He was on Nurto Natural Choice Lamb and Rice Formula, dry food, well the little over three pounds of it he ate out of a new bag. btw, love your vet cost thing over at Itchmo, I will be doing that monday, busy today. I’m getting told to get off line right now. Beating the heat, 90’s today here.
Comment by Maudigan — April 29, 2007 @ 7:14 am
People a lot of Pet Food Brands are tweaking and redoing their websites.
For a variety of reasons.
Comment by Steve — April 29, 2007 @ 7:15 am
Or scrubbing their websites.
Comment by Steve — April 29, 2007 @ 7:20 am
Steve,can You get Nutro? this is strange we aren’t having trouble,and there are 5 Pc’s and each one got it.
Comment by Mary Ann — April 29, 2007 @ 7:23 am
Comment by Mary Ann — April 29, 2007 @ 7:23 am
No, figure they are making major changes in what they claim about their products or sumptin’.
Comment by Steve — April 29, 2007 @ 7:25 am
Oh. Okay. That makes more sense now.
Comment by Pat — April 29, 2007 @ 7:25 am
Lynn, perhaps there should be a topic for “Websites ‘Before’ and ‘After’” the recent changes people have been saving.
Comment by petlover — April 29, 2007 @ 7:29 am
Comment by Pat — April 29, 2007 @ 7:25 am
Need to keep in mind these executives are struggling to pay for that fifth mortgage in Belize or scraping by to purchase that second private jet right now.
Comment by Steve — April 29, 2007 @ 7:30 am
E. Hamilton’s already got something similar to Lynn’s idea going over at Itchmo’s forums. I saw her plans for it in Itchmo’s comments last night. I think Marilyn took on the first topic - concerning costs to date for pets that became ill and/or died.
E. Hamilton also mentioned last she would be getting up the other topics for discussion/article collecting today. Itchmo’s site is great, as is this one. But I’d sure like to see a forum here one day, too.
Please don’t hurt me Gina. Had to try asking one more time…..*ducks*….
Comment by Ally — April 29, 2007 @ 7:32 am
At Nutro it says the server is down. The cached copies still work, just no pics. You’ll have to wait while it figures out that it can’t get to the pics, though.
Comment by Peggy — April 29, 2007 @ 7:37 am
Comment by Ally — April 29, 2007 @ 7:32 am
Congress enacted Section 230 for two reasons — to “promote the free exchange of information and ideas over the Internet,” and to “encourage service providers to self-regulate the dissemination of offensive material over their services.”
I don’t see your post as offensive.
Comment by Steve — April 29, 2007 @ 7:39 am
Steve - get any dirt this morning??
Comment by shelly — April 29, 2007 @ 7:45 am
Comment by shelly — April 29, 2007 @ 7:45 am
No not yet. Still trying to figure out what to do with the pile we already have thats been accumulating for 42 days.
Comment by Steve — April 29, 2007 @ 7:49 am
Were you able to save all we found?
Comment by shelly — April 29, 2007 @ 7:51 am
Diversion: Here’s a cute 8) doggie artist:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories.....7019.shtml
This was on CBS Sunday Morning last week.
Comment by Kat — April 29, 2007 @ 7:56 am
http://tinyurl.com/2yqtzw
SUMMARY OF LAWS AND REGULATIONS ENFORCED BY CBP re: Agriculture
You can open this as a .doc also which I found easier to get around on. Link is HTML
Comment by shelly — April 29, 2007 @ 7:56 am
We’ve talked about putting a forum on the Pet Connection site, but … I have zero interest in managing one. I used to be head of the Pet Care Forum on AOL, and I hated managing the boards.
We all have to go with our strengths, and mine is I’d rather write about pets then run a pet forum.
There are lots of places to discuss pets, including the PetHobbyist.com communities, which Christie oversees. (That’s where a lot of the AOL people went after AOL took the PCF in house.)
I like blogging. I don’t like managing forums. So … sorry, but we won’t be adding forums here.
Comment by Gina Spadafori — April 29, 2007 @ 8:13 am
Lynn/E.Hamilton, et al -
I keep thinking about the research on antibiotics/antifungals — if you “prove” the majority of animals died from a combined reaction — won’t that dilute the contaminated food theory? Thus, leaving the petitioners in the class action law suits less credible?
Granted, a food additive should not react with a medication, but it happens often. That result then reflects back to the dispensary, doctor & patient (parent).
In this case, the food additive was not disclosed to even consider an outcome. Just wanted to state an idea on this…
Comment by Kat — April 29, 2007 @ 8:30 am
Sorry if this is not the correct thread to post - I’m barely computer savvy, let alone wise to sites such as this. Thank you for all of the information provided here!
I am still confused with the labeling “rules”. Recently we purchased dry Natural Balance cat and dog. We did so as their web site listed products that appeared acceptable. No menodione (artificial vit K) was listed on the website. We checked the package labels and one listed Menodione, the other listed some sort of Vit K formulation. We spoke with NB 3 times. Once with their sales rep - Jenny. Each time we were told to trust their website and not the packaging and that Menodione was no longer used by them. Each time they said we must have old packaging and asked for the expiration date. The expiration dates were May and June 2008. They stated both times that there was a six month timeline they were allowed to change labelling.
Comment by elliott — April 29, 2007 @ 8:34 am
Gina - no problem. I had to give it another try since I’ve come to greatly enjoy many of the peops who haunt this site. I’ll stop stalking you now. ;-)
I’ll check out Christie’s site, PetHobbyist.com. Man, she really IS all over the place. Like you mentioned earlier, it’s a challenge following her to all the places she regularly posts, lol. Just last night I noticed she’s also on the yahoo K9 nutrition group I was just approved to join. So many sources of info……..so little time!
Comment by Ally — April 29, 2007 @ 8:43 am
Gina ~
Is it possible to get at least a Google Search Engine? There is so much info on this blog & it is virtually impossible to find a post.
There have been times when I just wanted to pull info from something, I’ve already posted, but cannot find it. I’m sure others have that problem too.
It’s easy to add on site. Easy to get, easy to install. Request, copy, paste, upload — presto!
…” http://tinyurl.com/2f7p4n
Comment by Kat — April 28, 2007 @ 12:39 pm “
Comment by Kat — April 29, 2007 @ 8:51 am
LOOKY WHAT I FOUND —
Sec. 146a. Jurisdiction of suits by or against China Trade Act
corporation
The Federal district courts shall have exclusive original jurisdiction of all suits to which a China Trade Act corporation, or a stockholder, director, or officer thereof in his capacity as such, is a party. Suit against the corporation may be brought in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia or in the Federal district court for any district in which the corporation has an agent and is engaged in doing business.
http://www.access.gpo.gov/usco.....ter4_.html
Comment by Kat — April 29, 2007 @ 9:20 am
Since Sally Q. Miller has 12 yrs experience in the China Trade — is she an agent?
Comment by Kat — April 29, 2007 @ 9:21 am
never mind… I think that they mean an “Agent of Record”
Comment by Kat — April 29, 2007 @ 9:22 am
“we are not aware of any human illness that has occurred from exposure to melamine or its by-products.”
They forgot to add the word ‘yet’ at the end of the sentence.
I have several melamine dishes from when my twin were small. Would I take one, grind it down to powder and sprinkle a little on my food? Heck no! Any human consumption of plastic is unacceptable.
Comment by Deanna — April 29, 2007 @ 9:22 am
Oh yes, that goes for our pets, also!
Comment by Deanna — April 29, 2007 @ 9:25 am
The hypothesis that the melamine reacted with antibiotics or antifungals that pets were taking is interesting. However, pets fed food in Menu’s tests died, and I would think it unlikely that they were also giving them additional meds.
Comment by ann — April 29, 2007 @ 9:41 am
http://www.ita.doc.gov/ooms/ChinaTradeActRCS.pdf
The China Trade Act
(I just posted this but in the wrong place-meant to put it here)
Comment by shelly — April 29, 2007 @ 9:48 am
Also, we know that cyanuric acid is a byproduct of bacterial metabolism of melamine http://www.sciam.com/article.c.....anID=sa007
Comment by ann — April 29, 2007 @ 9:48 am
This is my research contribution for today: a list of *proteins* used in human food as well as pet food, along with some other interesting information. How many years have we been eating melamine? Think before you eat!
_______________________________________________
WHEAT GLUTEN—-SOY PROTEIN—-CORN GLUTEN—-RICE PROTEIN—-POTATO PROTEIN—-USES IN FOOD
_______________________________________________
SOY PROTEIN
Meat Food Products:
Emulsified meats
Coarsely-chopped meats
Canned meats
Whole muscle meats
Poultry products
Seafood products
Analogs
Pet foods
Dairy-Type Products:
Beverage powders
Cheeses
Coffee whiteners
Frozen desserts
Whipped toppings
Infant formulas
Milk replacers for young animals
Bakery Products - Cereals - Pasta:
Bread and rolls
Specialty breads
Cakes and cake mixes
Doughnuts
Breakfast Cereals
Pasta Products
Miscellaneous Baking Applications
(sweet rolls, cookies, pastry, crackers, snacks, pancakes, etc.)
Miscellaneous Foods:
Soups, gravies, sauces
Candies, confections, desserts
Oriental foods
Pet foods
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WHEAT GLUTEN
Posted by Mr.JIGAR SHAH on March 02, 19101 at 07:46:26:
We take this opportunity to introduce ourselves as an exclusive importer and stockiest of Wheat Gluten with a brand name of Protinax from M/s. Avebe b.a., The Netherlands.
We are importing this product and stocking at Bhiwandi, thus offering you ready availability. Enclosed herewith is the literature and the specifications of the product for your ready reference.
Protinax
[Vital Wheat Gluten]
Protinax vital wheat gluten is a high –grade protein in fine powder form extracted from a high quality of wheat flour. The drying process is carefully regulated and controlled in order to preserve its original unique characteristics such as elasticity and extensibility. Dry gluten regains its original characteristics when mixed with water ,readily forms a cohesive and elastic dough and has baking capacity . The amino acids in PROTINAX give the dough a high elasticity and toughness. The smell and taste of protinax is almost neutral ,the color is natural creamy and it has a high waterbinding capacity
Typical uses:
Protinax vital wheat gluten can be applied:
As protein source and binder in pet food & fish food
In vegetarian meat replacing products
For special bread – and bakery products in which the protein contents need to be higher .An addition of 2-5% to the flour will give a better texture and crumb strength, a superior loaf quality, a bigger volume and improved keeping and eating qualities to the bread.
In breakfast foods which should be rich in proteins like gluten bread or biscuits
As exchangers of meat protein
For vegetable proteins and hydrolizates
In breakfasts cereals
In snacks like spring roll
In soups & sauces
In dough products
As exchangers for milk protein e.g. in cheese products
In protein foam products
We request you to kindly let us know your interest in the product, enabling us to serve you better. We await your earliest reply. Please note that we are also distributor of LACTOSE [DMV- HOLLAND]
Thanking You,
Yours faithfully,
For CHEMO INDIA,
JIGAR SHAH
Mobile no : 9821026727
CHEMO INDIA
24,JAMBUL WADI ,R.NO.47 ,1st Flr,DHOBI TALAO MUMBAI-400002 Maharashtra
Ph: 022 2013412 / 2080614 / 2064637
Fax: 022 2080617
Email: chemoindia@bol.net.in , chemoindia@hotmail.com
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CORN GLUTEN
(EPA FACT SHEET)
Corn Gluten Meal (100137)
SUMMARY
As a pesticide active ingredient, corn gluten meal is intended for residential non-food use on lawns to prevent emergence of grassy and broad-leaved weeds. The substance is common in many food/feed products and in dietary supplements for humans and animals. This active ingredient is a protein found in corn kernels. It is not harmful to humans, to other non-target organisms, or to the environment. Furthermore, it provides a safer alternative to toxic chemicals commonly used for weed control on lawns.
Issued 11/02
I. DESCRIPTION OF THE ACTIVE INGREDIENT
Active Ingredient Name: Corn Gluten Meal (Corn Glutens )
OPP Chemical Code: 100137 (CAS # 66071-96-3)
Corn gluten meal is present in corn and in foods that contain corn or processed corn by-products. Corn gluten meal is a non-volatile powder, and in its granular form tends to remain near where it was applied. End use products are intended for use only on established lawns, where the substance prevents normal root development in weed seedlings. The glutens are a class of proteins found in various crops such as corn, wheat, and potatoes. Bread texture is affected by the amount and kind of gluten in the flour used for making the bread.
III. ASSESSING RISKS TO HUMAN HEALTH
No adverse effects to humans are known or expected from use of corn gluten meal in pesticide products. Corn gluten meal: 1) is eaten regularly by humans and livestock with no known adverse effects, 2) is categorized by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) as GRAS (Generally Recognized As Safe for food use), 3) has no known toxic effects when tested in laboratory studies, and 4) does not have a legal maximum amount that can be present in food (i.e., it is exempt from needing a tolerance).
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RICE PROTEIN CONCENTRATE
Scary!
http://tinyurl.com/37jjxs
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POTATO PROTEIN ???
“…Solanic’s potato protein has sparked interest from a wide range of sectors in the food industry. Some players in the dairy, bakery, meat, beverage and convenience foods industries have already signed up as customers, says Solanic’s representative director. So far, Solanic’s clients are mostly based in Europe, but enthusiasm is also coming from Asia and North America.
The potato protein, which is available in powder form (protein content >90 - 95%) and liquid form (protein content >15 - 20%), can be used in the pharmaceutical industry as an anti inflammatory agent. It can be used in creams and wipes to prevent soars and other skin irritations in adults and young children.
In the food industry, it has many applications. Its foam, gelation and emulsion properties allows the potato protein to be a useful ingredient in products such as ice cream, mousses, whipping cream, crème fraiche, bavarois, and cappuccinos. Other products include yoghurt, sour cream, custard, low-fat spreads, quiche fillings, mayonnaise, salad dressings, and even biscuits.”
“…Despite the fact that the animal protein market remains huge, and that other major vegetable proteins such as soya are increasingly expanding, Solanic says it has found a niche market in potato protein, which differentiates itself from the main sources of protein as it provides added value as illustrated below.
Goovaerts goes on to say that Solanic potato protein is “a vegetable-based protein with the functionality of an animal protein”. “The advantages of Solanic potato proteins are their
“clean flavour, variety of functionality – all while being of vegetable origin, with similar properties to animal proteins”.
http://tinyurl.com/3x7w5t
Comment by Nadine Long — April 29, 2007 @ 9:51 am
GOOD GRIEF, Nadine! Dr. Franken-vegable!
Good research contribution!
A CLEAR MESSAGE — WHAT YOU DON’T KNOW ~CAN~ HURT (OR KILL) YOU!
I started reading about this CRAP over 10 yrs ago — Monsanto, Round-Up Ready seeds, bio-engineered foods, genetic modifications to seeds, protein splicing, protein switching, etc. I was telling a chemist & seed company rep (husband/wife) about articles I had read — when Monsanto started buying the seed companies to produce Round-Up Ready Seeds.
What I think China & India have done is try to “beat” the US in bio-technology. They probably strapped someone to a chair, fed it to them for 30-days. If they didn’t die, then it was “safe”! Thus, world market — here it comes!
By-the-way Nadine, the Boston.com link for potato protein goes to “page not found”.
Thanks!
Comment by Kat — April 29, 2007 @ 10:26 am
That couple I mentioned above thought I was nuts. They had not heard about it — even in their profession.
Comment by Kat — April 29, 2007 @ 10:28 am
Just wondering if anyone ever researched Wilbur-Ellis website(s) thoroughly — 1-2 weeks ago?
I am trying to find the website that had a drop-down menu where that company SOLD feed ~AND~ melamine. I’m going through my history files & cannot find the website. I thought it was them, but no melamine listed.
I found it 1-2 days after the recalled “rice protein concentrate” was found.
Comment by Kat — April 29, 2007 @ 10:32 am
Most of us have taken our pets off the pet food.
But, logically speaking, with ChemNutra & Wilbur-Ellis & who knows which other companies have/are purchasing ANY of the China marketed “food and feed grade” “BioTechnology” products, chances are we’ve been eating this stuff of nearly a year — minimum!
Now, we’re home cooking for our pets & we’re starting the process all over again. Both of my dogs were hacking today. I’ve been buying mostly organic from the health food stores & elsewhere: Barley flour, corn meal, rice, rice flour all from bulk bins. Who knows where this stuff REALLY comes from!
Plus, 2 of my 3 cats were hacking last night too. :(
Comment by Kat — April 29, 2007 @ 10:51 am
I went to buy Veggie burgers-it had wheat gluten in them. i said No Way Jose
Comment by Mary Ann — April 29, 2007 @ 11:54 am
Re: Since March 16, more than 5,600 pet food items have been recalled after the discovery that the chemical melamine found in imported raw materials has been making thousands of pets sick.
I haven’t counted, but 5,600 pet food items does seem very high to me. That is 5,600 different types of canned and some dry food? Is that right??
Comment by Shawn — April 29, 2007 @ 12:55 pm
Comment by Kat — April 29, 2007 @ 8:51 am
In case a search engine isn’t able to be implemented here, you can use Google to do some searching. If you use their Advanced Search page ( http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en ), then look to the Domain line and specify that the results come Only (choose from a drop-down list) from the domain http://www.petconnection.com/blog/ (key this or copy and paste it into the Domain field), then when you use search words or phrases, it will do what it can to search the blog for you.
For instance, you were searching for a post of your own. If you list your screen name of Kat, it would bring up all of your posts that it could find. If you could further specify what you wanted in terms of a necessary phrase or other necessary key words, it might narrow your search results.
Comment by Kay Hammil — April 29, 2007 @ 7:51 pm