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	<title>Comments on: Pet-food recall: Behind the scenes at Hill&#8217;s</title>
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		<title>By: E. Hamilton</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/25/pet-food-recall-behind-the-scenes-at-hills/comment-page-3/#comment-40992</link>
		<dc:creator>E. Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the FDA just admitting they are failing pet owners today again, sigh.

I will find it very hard not to burst into a rendition of &quot;who&#039;s sorry now&quot;, when the first human death occurs.

of course, at this rate, it may be MY death.
Told my doc last week that I have already had the stress test for my heart, been doing it daily for weeks now, no worries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the FDA just admitting they are failing pet owners today again, sigh.</p>
<p>I will find it very hard not to burst into a rendition of &#8220;who&#8217;s sorry now&#8221;, when the first human death occurs.</p>
<p>of course, at this rate, it may be MY death.<br />
Told my doc last week that I have already had the stress test for my heart, been doing it daily for weeks now, no worries.</p>
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		<title>By: Dixie H.</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/25/pet-food-recall-behind-the-scenes-at-hills/comment-page-3/#comment-40963</link>
		<dc:creator>Dixie H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As noted in my earlier two posts, I went through a similar ordeal last year with my dog. It was apparent to me, after all other possiblities were ruled out, that the Hill&#039;s food was to blame for my dog&#039;s vitamin D toxicosis. I waged a nine month battle trying to get that recognized. The anger, frustration, hostility, betrayal, and guilt now being felt by many, I felt a year ago. I don&#039;t know if anyone at Pet Connection read the lengthy email I sent that chronicled that battle, but if they did, those feelings could be detected.

What I learned then and what frustrates many now, as it did me, is the fact that the veterinary profession is a member of the scientific community. That without objective scientific evidence that bears proof, what seems obvious to us, can only be deemed speculation and theory. For, as in any CSI, though a corpse with a bullent wound would seem to have died of a gunshot, there is the odd chance a heart attack actually killed the victim...when you hear hoof beats you think of horses, but on the odd occasion it may shock you to see a zebra.

Again, I will state, I have no doubt my dog&#039;s problem stemmed from the food, but you can not produce long gone food as evidence and without evidence, there is no proof, only speculation and theory. Though my vets may have felt the most probable cause was the food, to state so without proof could be liableous, and then there was that odd chance it could have been something else (it wasn&#039;t).

In retrospect, I thank God for my vets. They worked &quot;in the dark&quot; not knowing what was wrong with my dog and saved her. They allowed me to vent my frustations regarding their perceived silence, (there were a few occasions that it&#039;s a wonder they didn&#039;t call authorities and have me escorted off their premises.) But, you see they understood my frustrations, for they were too. They have dedicated their lives to saving animals and circumatances like these are hard for them as well as us.

And regarding Dr. Becker...I have been watching several different blog sites since March 17th when this story broke. He has been the most outspoken of all the professionals. He has taken chances few wouldn&#039;t with his frankness and opinions... and his frustrations show as well. Thank you Dr. Becker!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As noted in my earlier two posts, I went through a similar ordeal last year with my dog. It was apparent to me, after all other possiblities were ruled out, that the Hill&#8217;s food was to blame for my dog&#8217;s vitamin D toxicosis. I waged a nine month battle trying to get that recognized. The anger, frustration, hostility, betrayal, and guilt now being felt by many, I felt a year ago. I don&#8217;t know if anyone at Pet Connection read the lengthy email I sent that chronicled that battle, but if they did, those feelings could be detected.</p>
<p>What I learned then and what frustrates many now, as it did me, is the fact that the veterinary profession is a member of the scientific community. That without objective scientific evidence that bears proof, what seems obvious to us, can only be deemed speculation and theory. For, as in any CSI, though a corpse with a bullent wound would seem to have died of a gunshot, there is the odd chance a heart attack actually killed the victim&#8230;when you hear hoof beats you think of horses, but on the odd occasion it may shock you to see a zebra.</p>
<p>Again, I will state, I have no doubt my dog&#8217;s problem stemmed from the food, but you can not produce long gone food as evidence and without evidence, there is no proof, only speculation and theory. Though my vets may have felt the most probable cause was the food, to state so without proof could be liableous, and then there was that odd chance it could have been something else (it wasn&#8217;t).</p>
<p>In retrospect, I thank God for my vets. They worked &#8220;in the dark&#8221; not knowing what was wrong with my dog and saved her. They allowed me to vent my frustations regarding their perceived silence, (there were a few occasions that it&#8217;s a wonder they didn&#8217;t call authorities and have me escorted off their premises.) But, you see they understood my frustrations, for they were too. They have dedicated their lives to saving animals and circumatances like these are hard for them as well as us.</p>
<p>And regarding Dr. Becker&#8230;I have been watching several different blog sites since March 17th when this story broke. He has been the most outspoken of all the professionals. He has taken chances few wouldn&#8217;t with his frankness and opinions&#8230; and his frustrations show as well. Thank you Dr. Becker!</p>
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		<title>By: E. Hamilton</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/25/pet-food-recall-behind-the-scenes-at-hills/comment-page-3/#comment-40800</link>
		<dc:creator>E. Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gina, I am NOT blaming Dr Becker or you.
I am not!
This has been a great place for help and info.

Let me state this as simply as I can.

Hills had the power and the pull to get this story out there.
They did not.
Could have used Dr. Becker, could have used anyone at all for all I care.
Instead what they used was me, my money, my pets. 
That is how I feel.

Again, I am not blaming you at petconnections for ANYTHING.
Unless Dr. Becker owns Hills. ( I know he does not).

But if you guys are not as mad as I am that every pet food company in the world, every pet store, every pet show, every pet collar maker, every single one of them failed us, then you are missing the point.

And they failed us DAILY and they are failing me today and unless they get up off their butts right this red hot -they will fail us again tomorrow.

I have ONE standard for anyone who makes a dime off my pets,

Where were you when the pets were poisoned?

The answer to that tells me all I need to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gina, I am NOT blaming Dr Becker or you.<br />
I am not!<br />
This has been a great place for help and info.</p>
<p>Let me state this as simply as I can.</p>
<p>Hills had the power and the pull to get this story out there.<br />
They did not.<br />
Could have used Dr. Becker, could have used anyone at all for all I care.<br />
Instead what they used was me, my money, my pets.<br />
That is how I feel.</p>
<p>Again, I am not blaming you at petconnections for ANYTHING.<br />
Unless Dr. Becker owns Hills. ( I know he does not).</p>
<p>But if you guys are not as mad as I am that every pet food company in the world, every pet store, every pet show, every pet collar maker, every single one of them failed us, then you are missing the point.</p>
<p>And they failed us DAILY and they are failing me today and unless they get up off their butts right this red hot -they will fail us again tomorrow.</p>
<p>I have ONE standard for anyone who makes a dime off my pets,</p>
<p>Where were you when the pets were poisoned?</p>
<p>The answer to that tells me all I need to know.</p>
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		<title>By: D Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>D Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If  this poison was in something that was suppose to be regulated by the FDA  then yes that would make them equally  as responsible and at fault, if not more so.They are paid officials and it is their job.
However I still have a problem with the fact that Hills and the other large companies were using these ingredients and yet promoting there food as a premium brand and pushing it to vet&#039;s for sick animals. What were they using say 3 years ago and why did they change(if so) and when you can answer that question then you have the answer.
IF it is true that it some how got in human food then obviously it was in small enough does that it did not affect humans or because our make up is different.
The fact is their are allot of things that are not as safe for animals as are humans and who should of known that, should it not of been the companies when they took on the responsibility of selling pet food and shouldn&#039;t they have also been regulating that food? Of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If  this poison was in something that was suppose to be regulated by the FDA  then yes that would make them equally  as responsible and at fault, if not more so.They are paid officials and it is their job.<br />
However I still have a problem with the fact that Hills and the other large companies were using these ingredients and yet promoting there food as a premium brand and pushing it to vet&#8217;s for sick animals. What were they using say 3 years ago and why did they change(if so) and when you can answer that question then you have the answer.<br />
IF it is true that it some how got in human food then obviously it was in small enough does that it did not affect humans or because our make up is different.<br />
The fact is their are allot of things that are not as safe for animals as are humans and who should of known that, should it not of been the companies when they took on the responsibility of selling pet food and shouldn&#8217;t they have also been regulating that food? Of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathi</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/25/pet-food-recall-behind-the-scenes-at-hills/comment-page-3/#comment-40679</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gina, I confess, I did not see the program with Dr. Becker, so to be clear, I&#039;m not attacking him.  But I do agree that there was not enough info coming in other than on this site and similar blogs.  My friends do not have computers and they watched TV news and complained they could not get any info without my telling them what I found out on here.  Even when my friends called their own vets they were surprised that their vets knew nothing.  This has been so frustrating for many of us.  And yes you and Christie and Dr. Becker deserve many thanks.  Mucho, mucho!
I understand how E. feels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gina, I confess, I did not see the program with Dr. Becker, so to be clear, I&#8217;m not attacking him.  But I do agree that there was not enough info coming in other than on this site and similar blogs.  My friends do not have computers and they watched TV news and complained they could not get any info without my telling them what I found out on here.  Even when my friends called their own vets they were surprised that their vets knew nothing.  This has been so frustrating for many of us.  And yes you and Christie and Dr. Becker deserve many thanks.  Mucho, mucho!<br />
I understand how E. feels.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/25/pet-food-recall-behind-the-scenes-at-hills/comment-page-3/#comment-40660</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always thought that Pet Connection did a great and even excellent job of informing pet owners of the signs of illness and Gina too posting that if a pet is drinking too much water it is a medical emergency. (Thank you for commenting about it.)

Vets are doing their best and they are not God, but they do know what signs to look for that are problematic.

I&#039;ve referred lots of people to this site for information and even my local news media refers them too. I don&#039;t know that much about Dr. Becker but I do believe Pet Connection is right on top of this entire problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always thought that Pet Connection did a great and even excellent job of informing pet owners of the signs of illness and Gina too posting that if a pet is drinking too much water it is a medical emergency. (Thank you for commenting about it.)</p>
<p>Vets are doing their best and they are not God, but they do know what signs to look for that are problematic.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve referred lots of people to this site for information and even my local news media refers them too. I don&#8217;t know that much about Dr. Becker but I do believe Pet Connection is right on top of this entire problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  I admit I have a very good and caring Vet and all his co-workers are great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  I admit I have a very good and caring Vet and all his co-workers are great.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathi</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/25/pet-food-recall-behind-the-scenes-at-hills/comment-page-3/#comment-40653</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>comment by E. Hamilton - April 26, 2007 @ 10:06 AM
You got that right.  I didn&#039;t know about the drinking problem until I read about it right here by all the posted comments.
That&#039;s been the ongoing problem with the experts - SILENCE - they&#039;ve told us nothing.
***E., you owe NO apologies and NO respect.***
Those are things that must be earned.
Side note:  Reminds me of the time I challenged a Judge in his Chambers.  He threatened contempt.  I said &quot;whatever, I can wear a robe as easily as you, especially  when you are wrong.&quot;  Six months later that judge was indicted in Federal Court for murder, conspiracy to commit murder, gambling and running a prostitution ring.&quot;  Sometimes, we are just right! 8)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>comment by E. Hamilton - April 26, 2007 @ 10:06 AM<br />
You got that right.  I didn&#8217;t know about the drinking problem until I read about it right here by all the posted comments.<br />
That&#8217;s been the ongoing problem with the experts - SILENCE - they&#8217;ve told us nothing.<br />
***E., you owe NO apologies and NO respect.***<br />
Those are things that must be earned.<br />
Side note:  Reminds me of the time I challenged a Judge in his Chambers.  He threatened contempt.  I said &#8220;whatever, I can wear a robe as easily as you, especially  when you are wrong.&#8221;  Six months later that judge was indicted in Federal Court for murder, conspiracy to commit murder, gambling and running a prostitution ring.&#8221;  Sometimes, we are just right! 8)</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Spadafori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Spadafori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This site is a nice stopgap but Dr Becker has the backing of Hills and you did not see him on TV saying “there is a big problem, if your pet is drinking too much water they need to see a vet right now, more info later” did you?&quot;

**

I&#039;m sorry, but this isn&#039;t true. 

Dr. Becker and the entire Pet Connection team has from the first minute taken every opportunity to inform pet-owners of the symptoms and what to do. In every interview we&#039;ve given, and at the beginning of every post, we&#039;ve done the same. We also put up information on kidney disease within a couple of days of the first recall, and sent out a bonus column package to our newspaper subscribers on the topic that same day. 

I realize you&#039;re upset, but ... you&#039;re wrong on this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This site is a nice stopgap but Dr Becker has the backing of Hills and you did not see him on TV saying “there is a big problem, if your pet is drinking too much water they need to see a vet right now, more info later” did you?&#8221;</p>
<p>**</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but this isn&#8217;t true. </p>
<p>Dr. Becker and the entire Pet Connection team has from the first minute taken every opportunity to inform pet-owners of the symptoms and what to do. In every interview we&#8217;ve given, and at the beginning of every post, we&#8217;ve done the same. We also put up information on kidney disease within a couple of days of the first recall, and sent out a bonus column package to our newspaper subscribers on the topic that same day. </p>
<p>I realize you&#8217;re upset, but &#8230; you&#8217;re wrong on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: E. Hamilton</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/25/pet-food-recall-behind-the-scenes-at-hills/comment-page-3/#comment-40627</link>
		<dc:creator>E. Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by Laura — April 25, 2007 @ 10:19 pm

I doubt my Vet was bad, my problem with the first vet , the second vet and then a third was that I knew more than they did about what was going on.

And none of them, not my vet, not YOUR vet, not the top vet in the country was up on TV saying to people that you need to watch out if your pet drinks too much water- just that one thing, no need to risk the almighty lawsuit by naming names, just telling this country what it desperately needed to know.

I had to go to Vets for the things I needed but I was paying high prices to take a lot of lip about my homefeeding when THAT was keeping my pets alive more than they were. 

Vets get respect and had any one of them got up and SAID what needed to be said the scope of this tragedy would have been less.
Now they are less in my eyes.

But they are not alone in that. And I am not alone in feeling that way.
This is truly a situation where one good man or woman standing up and saying the truth might have saved the day, too bad there just were not any around.
This site is a nice stopgap but Dr Becker has the backing of Hills and you did not see him on TV saying &quot;there is a big problem, if your pet is drinking too much water they need to see a vet right now, more info later&quot; did you?

Would have taken about 20 minutes to film and could have been on the air that night.
But they didn&#039;t.
They had the tools to do something and they did not.
And that is the bottom line that betrayed me, betrayed us all. Not the pet food companies bottom line, which was bad enough, but the bottom line that all the money and power we have given these people , they were useless.
I have heard all the &quot;we are working behind the scenes&quot; but it was not &quot;behind the scenes&quot; that was called for, there was no Vet standing up and saying the simple sentence &quot;If your pet starts drinking too much water, there seems to be a problem and the pet needs to see a vet immediately, and YO, media, quit calling pet owners hysterical because pets are dying.&quot;

Not one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by Laura — April 25, 2007 @ 10:19 pm</p>
<p>I doubt my Vet was bad, my problem with the first vet , the second vet and then a third was that I knew more than they did about what was going on.</p>
<p>And none of them, not my vet, not YOUR vet, not the top vet in the country was up on TV saying to people that you need to watch out if your pet drinks too much water- just that one thing, no need to risk the almighty lawsuit by naming names, just telling this country what it desperately needed to know.</p>
<p>I had to go to Vets for the things I needed but I was paying high prices to take a lot of lip about my homefeeding when THAT was keeping my pets alive more than they were. </p>
<p>Vets get respect and had any one of them got up and SAID what needed to be said the scope of this tragedy would have been less.<br />
Now they are less in my eyes.</p>
<p>But they are not alone in that. And I am not alone in feeling that way.<br />
This is truly a situation where one good man or woman standing up and saying the truth might have saved the day, too bad there just were not any around.<br />
This site is a nice stopgap but Dr Becker has the backing of Hills and you did not see him on TV saying &#8220;there is a big problem, if your pet is drinking too much water they need to see a vet right now, more info later&#8221; did you?</p>
<p>Would have taken about 20 minutes to film and could have been on the air that night.<br />
But they didn&#8217;t.<br />
They had the tools to do something and they did not.<br />
And that is the bottom line that betrayed me, betrayed us all. Not the pet food companies bottom line, which was bad enough, but the bottom line that all the money and power we have given these people , they were useless.<br />
I have heard all the &#8220;we are working behind the scenes&#8221; but it was not &#8220;behind the scenes&#8221; that was called for, there was no Vet standing up and saying the simple sentence &#8220;If your pet starts drinking too much water, there seems to be a problem and the pet needs to see a vet immediately, and YO, media, quit calling pet owners hysterical because pets are dying.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not one.</p>
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