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	<title>Comments on: Pet-food recall: Monday morning food for thought</title>
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		<title>By: Joy</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/16/pet-food-recall-monday-morning-food-for-thought/comment-page-5/#comment-44516</link>
		<dc:creator>Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 16:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People have suspected for a while that a non-protein nitrogen ingredient has been killing pets.  One possibility is the one cited in the Chinese importer site warning of a “Pseudo Rice Protein” which is BIURET FEED:

Here’s a Itchmo link to findings re: Biuret Feed Grade: 
Melamine/Urea, cyanuric acid and amiloride in a single feed ingredient 
http://64.79.216.38/~itchmo/forums/index.php?topic=122.0

But here’s something else interesting.

IBDU (isobutylidene diurea) is most widely as a lawn fertilizer.  But, here is a reference to its use as a feed for monogastric (non ruminant) animals.

A quote from the description of US Patent # 3984572 titled “Feed for monogastric animals” reads:

“Currently, methionine and lysine are being used as artificial feeds for monogastric animals, and urea, isobutylidene diurea and biuret are being used for ruminant animals. Among these compounds, isobutylidene diurea is excellent as an artificial feed for ruminant animals because it is gradually decomposed in the first rumen to form ammonia, whereby it can be utilized for the synthesis of microbial protein of the microorganisms inhabiting the rumen. The microbes are digested and absorbed in a digestive organ below the abomasum so as to be effective for growth of the ruminant animals. Since monogastric animals have a different digestive mechanism from ruminant animals, one of ordinary skill would not have considered that isobutylidene diurea might be effective as a feed for monogastric animals.”

The inventors of this patent are: 
Sakaki, Yasuhiro (Yokohama, JA)
Kawai, Hiroshi (Tokyo, JA) 

The Assignee:
Mitsubishi Chemical Industries Ltd. - Aka Mitsubishi Monsanto</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People have suspected for a while that a non-protein nitrogen ingredient has been killing pets.  One possibility is the one cited in the Chinese importer site warning of a “Pseudo Rice Protein” which is BIURET FEED:</p>
<p>Here’s a Itchmo link to findings re: Biuret Feed Grade:<br />
Melamine/Urea, cyanuric acid and amiloride in a single feed ingredient<br />
<a href="http://64.79.216.38/~itchmo/forums/index.php?topic=122.0" rel="nofollow">http://64.79.216.38/~itchmo/fo.....opic=122.0</a></p>
<p>But here’s something else interesting.</p>
<p>IBDU (isobutylidene diurea) is most widely as a lawn fertilizer.  But, here is a reference to its use as a feed for monogastric (non ruminant) animals.</p>
<p>A quote from the description of US Patent # 3984572 titled “Feed for monogastric animals” reads:</p>
<p>“Currently, methionine and lysine are being used as artificial feeds for monogastric animals, and urea, isobutylidene diurea and biuret are being used for ruminant animals. Among these compounds, isobutylidene diurea is excellent as an artificial feed for ruminant animals because it is gradually decomposed in the first rumen to form ammonia, whereby it can be utilized for the synthesis of microbial protein of the microorganisms inhabiting the rumen. The microbes are digested and absorbed in a digestive organ below the abomasum so as to be effective for growth of the ruminant animals. Since monogastric animals have a different digestive mechanism from ruminant animals, one of ordinary skill would not have considered that isobutylidene diurea might be effective as a feed for monogastric animals.”</p>
<p>The inventors of this patent are:<br />
Sakaki, Yasuhiro (Yokohama, JA)<br />
Kawai, Hiroshi (Tokyo, JA) </p>
<p>The Assignee:<br />
Mitsubishi Chemical Industries Ltd. - Aka Mitsubishi Monsanto</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linda - in a way, it was the lupus that actually &quot;helped&quot; a bit with the pet food situation.  Some of the drugs they&#039;ve used to control it are &quot;immunity supressing&quot;...similar to what are used in organ transplants and sometimes also in chemo.  There a pages of literature they give you about them, and various signs and symptoms for problems from the drugs, everything from minor to quite serious.  It just didn&#039;t match up with what was being said about the &quot;rat poison&quot; orignally blammed for the pets - it didn&#039;t make sense to me at all, and I never believed it was that.  So I avoided giving my cats anything at all from the get-go with wheat gluten in it, having a hunch it was something else, but in the gluten.  I know this sounds very paranoid, but I also have a hard time buying the &quot;accidental&quot; or profit-motive thing.  I do believe it&#039;s more sinister than that.  With all of the things going on, I just came to the conclusion that I have to just ask God to keep the cats and the two dogs in His hands.  There is only so much a person can do - especially when things keep changing from one day to another, and it&#039;s hard to figure out what is truth and what isn&#039;t.  Add to that mix the profit and greed motive, the &quot;cover your behind&quot; motives, and it&#039;s one horrid situation!  My daughter lost her Maine Coon to kidney problems just before Christmas...right after she switched to IAMS.  I sure wish I&#039;d had an intuitive dream on this!  Although, it would have been a nightmare, just as this is, especially for everyone who lost a beloved pet.  And the fear every day of looking at your pets and wondering....it&#039;s a living nightmare that just doesn&#039;t seem to have an end. Eileen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linda - in a way, it was the lupus that actually &#8220;helped&#8221; a bit with the pet food situation.  Some of the drugs they&#8217;ve used to control it are &#8220;immunity supressing&#8221;&#8230;similar to what are used in organ transplants and sometimes also in chemo.  There a pages of literature they give you about them, and various signs and symptoms for problems from the drugs, everything from minor to quite serious.  It just didn&#8217;t match up with what was being said about the &#8220;rat poison&#8221; orignally blammed for the pets - it didn&#8217;t make sense to me at all, and I never believed it was that.  So I avoided giving my cats anything at all from the get-go with wheat gluten in it, having a hunch it was something else, but in the gluten.  I know this sounds very paranoid, but I also have a hard time buying the &#8220;accidental&#8221; or profit-motive thing.  I do believe it&#8217;s more sinister than that.  With all of the things going on, I just came to the conclusion that I have to just ask God to keep the cats and the two dogs in His hands.  There is only so much a person can do - especially when things keep changing from one day to another, and it&#8217;s hard to figure out what is truth and what isn&#8217;t.  Add to that mix the profit and greed motive, the &#8220;cover your behind&#8221; motives, and it&#8217;s one horrid situation!  My daughter lost her Maine Coon to kidney problems just before Christmas&#8230;right after she switched to IAMS.  I sure wish I&#8217;d had an intuitive dream on this!  Although, it would have been a nightmare, just as this is, especially for everyone who lost a beloved pet.  And the fear every day of looking at your pets and wondering&#8230;.it&#8217;s a living nightmare that just doesn&#8217;t seem to have an end. Eileen</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linda - in a way, it was the lupus that actually &quot;helped&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linda - in a way, it was the lupus that actually &#8220;helped&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eileen, oh thanks for the information - LUPUS is a difficult disease to live with - I&#039;ve read something about it.

You must be a very intuitive person - it&#039;s a beautiful symbol - but I&#039;m sorry to hear what it meant for you.

Since the dogs carryingson are heard by both me and my roommate, I too wonder what it means. The dogs are so hungry - I fed only homecooked food last night for the entire crew -
maybe I&#039;ll start keeping a record of what is happening so to better understand it.

Thanks so much for your story.

Linda MS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eileen, oh thanks for the information - LUPUS is a difficult disease to live with - I&#8217;ve read something about it.</p>
<p>You must be a very intuitive person - it&#8217;s a beautiful symbol - but I&#8217;m sorry to hear what it meant for you.</p>
<p>Since the dogs carryingson are heard by both me and my roommate, I too wonder what it means. The dogs are so hungry - I fed only homecooked food last night for the entire crew -<br />
maybe I&#8217;ll start keeping a record of what is happening so to better understand it.</p>
<p>Thanks so much for your story.</p>
<p>Linda MS</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Linda MS - I&#039;m gonna open myself up to the &quot;nutcake&quot; label, but your &quot;ghost dogs&quot; post gave me a real &quot;zing&quot; in what I figured was my going crazy brain!  For months, I kept having oddball dreams about a wolf, walking me through a hosptial....standing on a beach.  It really started to bug me!  Well, to make a long story short, within a few months, I was diagnosed with LUPUS, which I discovered is the Latin for &quot;WOLF&quot;.  Once I was diagnosed, I never had the dream again, and haven&#039;t for five years now.  Mentioned it to the doctor who said he knows of a lot of cases where something similar happened.;;.and that I wasn&#039;t as nutty as I might have thought. WEIRD!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Linda MS - I&#8217;m gonna open myself up to the &#8220;nutcake&#8221; label, but your &#8220;ghost dogs&#8221; post gave me a real &#8220;zing&#8221; in what I figured was my going crazy brain!  For months, I kept having oddball dreams about a wolf, walking me through a hosptial&#8230;.standing on a beach.  It really started to bug me!  Well, to make a long story short, within a few months, I was diagnosed with LUPUS, which I discovered is the Latin for &#8220;WOLF&#8221;.  Once I was diagnosed, I never had the dream again, and haven&#8217;t for five years now.  Mentioned it to the doctor who said he knows of a lot of cases where something similar happened.;;.and that I wasn&#8217;t as nutty as I might have thought. WEIRD!</p>
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		<title>By: FMtz</title>
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		<dc:creator>FMtz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barb,
Thanks. I am going to get this book. I have been pondering this for a while. My husband is becoming increasingly forgetful, acting strange, forgetting things he said minutes before, thinking he told me something when he didn&#039;t, angry outbursts, etc. Last week I told my son I was worried he had early alzheimer&#039;s. He is only 47 and a BIG meat eater. No one in his family has alzheimer&#039;s and have lived well into their 80&#039;s or 90&#039;s. This pet food scare has all of us in our house learned more and more about what is in our food and our pet&#039;s food. Some of the stuff in our house has strange ingredients and we have no idea what these things are. Doing more research and throwing things out! I wouldn&#039;t be surprised either if there is a real connection. Again, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barb,<br />
Thanks. I am going to get this book. I have been pondering this for a while. My husband is becoming increasingly forgetful, acting strange, forgetting things he said minutes before, thinking he told me something when he didn&#8217;t, angry outbursts, etc. Last week I told my son I was worried he had early alzheimer&#8217;s. He is only 47 and a BIG meat eater. No one in his family has alzheimer&#8217;s and have lived well into their 80&#8217;s or 90&#8217;s. This pet food scare has all of us in our house learned more and more about what is in our food and our pet&#8217;s food. Some of the stuff in our house has strange ingredients and we have no idea what these things are. Doing more research and throwing things out! I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised either if there is a real connection. Again, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Barb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 05:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve said this in a previous blog.  Everyone must read the book &quot;Brain Trust&quot; by Dr. Colm A. Kelleher - he traces mad cow disease back to it&#039;s origin and follow&#039;s it&#039;s path from New Guniea to North America.    

From the back cover:  &quot;The brain disease kuru had already killed hundreds of humans in New Guinea, and here at Patuxent, located just off I-95 between Baltimore and Washington,DC, kuru was being injected into primates, monkeys, and dozens of other species -- right in the middle of a wildlife refuge and bird sanctuary.

We are now standing at an extraordinary crossroads.  It has been almost fifty years since the importation of infectious kuru into North America.  During that period, deadly prion disease has emerged in wildlife and now in cattle in the form of Mad Cow Disease.  Like a ghostly wraith, it has moved silently between species.  Meanwhile, a massive epidemic of Alzheimer&#039;s disease threatens the entire healthcare system in N. Amer., and hidden in that epidemic may be the unmistakable signs of a larger number of cases of the human form of Mad Cow Disease.&quot;

While doing research, after my Mom at age 70 was diagnosed w/ Alzheimer&#039;s 6 years ago, I came across this book. There is absolutely no history of Alzheimer&#039;s on either side of my family, in fact my great grandparents lived until 94, and grandparents 89 on my mother&#039;s side.  She was one of the healthiest people I knew; never smoked, drank, did drugs her entire life...had 9 children all just as healthy.  All my life she was never sick with anything but a cold or flu, then out of the blue she began deteriorating...talking and forgetting her sentence half way through...frustrated not being able to get out her thoughts, started talking gibberish...within less than 6 months the mother and loving person I always knew was gone, and I mean gone.  She was bedridden at about one year...still hanging on but sadly I fear it won&#039;t be much longer.  Not until autopsy will we know definitively if Alzheimer&#039;s is the cause, but I&#039;m betting the farm it is not what caused her downfall, yet instead this human form of mad cow disease.  She was a big meat eater, and more than anything she loved lamb.  You&#039;ll understand when you read the book, which I sincerely hope you all do.  EXCELLENT READ!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve said this in a previous blog.  Everyone must read the book &#8220;Brain Trust&#8221; by Dr. Colm A. Kelleher - he traces mad cow disease back to it&#8217;s origin and follow&#8217;s it&#8217;s path from New Guniea to North America.    </p>
<p>From the back cover:  &#8220;The brain disease kuru had already killed hundreds of humans in New Guinea, and here at Patuxent, located just off I-95 between Baltimore and Washington,DC, kuru was being injected into primates, monkeys, and dozens of other species &#8212; right in the middle of a wildlife refuge and bird sanctuary.</p>
<p>We are now standing at an extraordinary crossroads.  It has been almost fifty years since the importation of infectious kuru into North America.  During that period, deadly prion disease has emerged in wildlife and now in cattle in the form of Mad Cow Disease.  Like a ghostly wraith, it has moved silently between species.  Meanwhile, a massive epidemic of Alzheimer&#8217;s disease threatens the entire healthcare system in N. Amer., and hidden in that epidemic may be the unmistakable signs of a larger number of cases of the human form of Mad Cow Disease.&#8221;</p>
<p>While doing research, after my Mom at age 70 was diagnosed w/ Alzheimer&#8217;s 6 years ago, I came across this book. There is absolutely no history of Alzheimer&#8217;s on either side of my family, in fact my great grandparents lived until 94, and grandparents 89 on my mother&#8217;s side.  She was one of the healthiest people I knew; never smoked, drank, did drugs her entire life&#8230;had 9 children all just as healthy.  All my life she was never sick with anything but a cold or flu, then out of the blue she began deteriorating&#8230;talking and forgetting her sentence half way through&#8230;frustrated not being able to get out her thoughts, started talking gibberish&#8230;within less than 6 months the mother and loving person I always knew was gone, and I mean gone.  She was bedridden at about one year&#8230;still hanging on but sadly I fear it won&#8217;t be much longer.  Not until autopsy will we know definitively if Alzheimer&#8217;s is the cause, but I&#8217;m betting the farm it is not what caused her downfall, yet instead this human form of mad cow disease.  She was a big meat eater, and more than anything she loved lamb.  You&#8217;ll understand when you read the book, which I sincerely hope you all do.  EXCELLENT READ!</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 05:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If some type of protein meal/powder is being added to the dog food, and it is hurting our animals - couldn&#039;t the labs discover this?

Linda MS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If some type of protein meal/powder is being added to the dog food, and it is hurting our animals - couldn&#8217;t the labs discover this?</p>
<p>Linda MS</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 04:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Came across this link on madcow, madcat, maddog. It&#039;s hard reading with lots of links and stuff but intermixed is some very troubling things.

http://tinyurl.com/248mog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Came across this link on madcow, madcat, maddog. It&#8217;s hard reading with lots of links and stuff but intermixed is some very troubling things.</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/248mog" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/248mog</a></p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 04:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted above my problem with dry food. I had been keeping a chart of my dogs symptoms because they were sporadic. I compared symptoms to dog food purchases(I use small bags of food being in a hot climate and one dog). Symptoms came and went with different bags of food from the same manuf. - different lot#&#039;s? 
   
Also, what if manuf. used the cont. product in differing amts because of different formulations?

NPN was mentioned earlier in relationship to a study done in Arizona with cattle,but I can&#039;t remember where I saw it...

Also,the Chinese co. mentioned they manuf or had available: ESB Protein Meal that uped the protein in fish meal.

 &quot;ESB Biologic Protein Meal&quot; is a kind of high protein substance by mixing coin protein and NPN and using high biologic technology. It is the high protein feed, the crude protein: CP160%-CP300%.     &quot;ESB Biologic Protein Meal&quot; has no flavor and has no coolness, torpidity, cayenne; it has no contamination of chemistry and drug. It is safe; nonpoisonous, without bad reaction. The product is yellow or grey or white powder. The protein is permanent, endure high temperature, the freshen is 90% min and has no contamination. It has the good effect to promote the protein of fish meal and other animal feed.&quot;                 

(ARC notes) &quot;coin&quot; may be &quot;corn&quot; or refering to the inner kernel of a grain such as wheat. NPN is the Non Protein Nitrogen, or Urea, which may be a byproduct of coal processing. &quot;high biologic technology&quot; means they probably heated and/or pressurize it with the Urea, the different colors of the end product could indicate they are using either different grains or different processing to get different color base products. The crude protein cannot be more than 100%, so that is an error.)from Daily Kos - State of the Nation.

Would ESB have an affect,do most dog and cat foods contain &quot;fish meal&quot;?

And, now I see the Welactin Oil I picked up for my dog today is linked to Alibaba and a company in Chile:Spes S.A.??

This is crazy - I read the ingredients on my salad dressing tonight,and into the garbage it went. I had a jar of crushed ginger from China - it&#039;s in the garbage. What happened to the days when we could pick vegtables and fruit and eat them raw from the field??

Katie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted above my problem with dry food. I had been keeping a chart of my dogs symptoms because they were sporadic. I compared symptoms to dog food purchases(I use small bags of food being in a hot climate and one dog). Symptoms came and went with different bags of food from the same manuf. - different lot#&#8217;s? </p>
<p>Also, what if manuf. used the cont. product in differing amts because of different formulations?</p>
<p>NPN was mentioned earlier in relationship to a study done in Arizona with cattle,but I can&#8217;t remember where I saw it&#8230;</p>
<p>Also,the Chinese co. mentioned they manuf or had available: ESB Protein Meal that uped the protein in fish meal.</p>
<p> &#8220;ESB Biologic Protein Meal&#8221; is a kind of high protein substance by mixing coin protein and NPN and using high biologic technology. It is the high protein feed, the crude protein: CP160%-CP300%.     &#8220;ESB Biologic Protein Meal&#8221; has no flavor and has no coolness, torpidity, cayenne; it has no contamination of chemistry and drug. It is safe; nonpoisonous, without bad reaction. The product is yellow or grey or white powder. The protein is permanent, endure high temperature, the freshen is 90% min and has no contamination. It has the good effect to promote the protein of fish meal and other animal feed.&#8221;                 </p>
<p>(ARC notes) &#8220;coin&#8221; may be &#8220;corn&#8221; or refering to the inner kernel of a grain such as wheat. NPN is the Non Protein Nitrogen, or Urea, which may be a byproduct of coal processing. &#8220;high biologic technology&#8221; means they probably heated and/or pressurize it with the Urea, the different colors of the end product could indicate they are using either different grains or different processing to get different color base products. The crude protein cannot be more than 100%, so that is an error.)from Daily Kos - State of the Nation.</p>
<p>Would ESB have an affect,do most dog and cat foods contain &#8220;fish meal&#8221;?</p>
<p>And, now I see the Welactin Oil I picked up for my dog today is linked to Alibaba and a company in Chile:Spes S.A.??</p>
<p>This is crazy - I read the ingredients on my salad dressing tonight,and into the garbage it went. I had a jar of crushed ginger from China - it&#8217;s in the garbage. What happened to the days when we could pick vegtables and fruit and eat them raw from the field??</p>
<p>Katie</p>
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