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		<title>By: Marcy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Elizabeth...it&#039;s a little bit better today.  My other two babies are staying close to &quot;mom&quot;...as they seem to sense that something bad happened to their friend.

One thing that all of us can do, is to not forget what has just happened...don&#039;t ever let it sit on the &quot;back burner.&quot;  It&#039;s a warning.  

Something has broken down in our whole system of &quot;safety&quot; in this country.  We need to take responsibility for our own (and our animal&#039;s) health and what we eat...because it seems that no one else cares.  We must be wise consumers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Elizabeth&#8230;it&#8217;s a little bit better today.  My other two babies are staying close to &#8220;mom&#8221;&#8230;as they seem to sense that something bad happened to their friend.</p>
<p>One thing that all of us can do, is to not forget what has just happened&#8230;don&#8217;t ever let it sit on the &#8220;back burner.&#8221;  It&#8217;s a warning.  </p>
<p>Something has broken down in our whole system of &#8220;safety&#8221; in this country.  We need to take responsibility for our own (and our animal&#8217;s) health and what we eat&#8230;because it seems that no one else cares.  We must be wise consumers.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandi K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by E. Hamilton — April 16, 2007 @ 11:39 am 


I know how you are feeling, it took over 3 weeks after the recall for our cats food to be officially recalled.  Not to mention the time in-between Jan and March when we had suspicions about the food.  Is there any way you could ask the Berkely Veterinary University to do testing on it?  I have read somewhere they are willing to do testing on other food not on the recall list just as they did for the Nutro Max Cat food that they tested and revealed melamine. 
Best wishes and I hope your dog is recovering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by E. Hamilton — April 16, 2007 @ 11:39 am </p>
<p>I know how you are feeling, it took over 3 weeks after the recall for our cats food to be officially recalled.  Not to mention the time in-between Jan and March when we had suspicions about the food.  Is there any way you could ask the Berkely Veterinary University to do testing on it?  I have read somewhere they are willing to do testing on other food not on the recall list just as they did for the Nutro Max Cat food that they tested and revealed melamine.<br />
Best wishes and I hope your dog is recovering.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandi K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by CathyA — April 16, 2007 @ 8:27 am 

Well Cathy, Im not asking to know what cans are tainted for the purpose of feeding.  Our cat is dead.  My point is that while it is good they withdrew all their food, if they know certain batches are tainted, it would be nice to know for people like me whose cat ate their food.  So to know for sure, I have to either call Nutro who I have called and left 3 messages with no response or get it tested myself.  

Another thing about Nutro, while they FINALLY did the right thing in pulling all of their wet canned food I had contacted them back in January after our cat first became ill and then again 3 times right after 3-16 to let them know there was something wrong with their food.    They never responded and still have yet to return any phone calls or e:mails.  It shouldnt have taken a lady and her vet in California to have food tested that wasnt on the recall list that people had been trying to tell them was bad.  Nutro should have done the testing, they had plenty of phone calls to clue them in.  So while I am glad they finally pulled their food as of 4-10, they should have pulled it 3-16 or how bout in January after my complaint.  So to me its a little too late to have any good feelings about Nutro. And I might add that the news on the Nutro wet food came from a news article published in a California newspaper on the evening of 4-9 before it was ever mentioned by Nutro or FDA.  

And as far as transparency and honest communication, why did Nutro send an e:mail on 4-3 telling everyone their food currently on shelves was safe to eat and then on 4-10 recall it all.  I dont feel this is transparent at all nor honest.  I dont expect everyone to have the same feelings towards Nutro as I do and your points are well taken however I just cant conjure up a warm fuzzy feeling for Nutro ever again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by CathyA — April 16, 2007 @ 8:27 am </p>
<p>Well Cathy, Im not asking to know what cans are tainted for the purpose of feeding.  Our cat is dead.  My point is that while it is good they withdrew all their food, if they know certain batches are tainted, it would be nice to know for people like me whose cat ate their food.  So to know for sure, I have to either call Nutro who I have called and left 3 messages with no response or get it tested myself.  </p>
<p>Another thing about Nutro, while they FINALLY did the right thing in pulling all of their wet canned food I had contacted them back in January after our cat first became ill and then again 3 times right after 3-16 to let them know there was something wrong with their food.    They never responded and still have yet to return any phone calls or e:mails.  It shouldnt have taken a lady and her vet in California to have food tested that wasnt on the recall list that people had been trying to tell them was bad.  Nutro should have done the testing, they had plenty of phone calls to clue them in.  So while I am glad they finally pulled their food as of 4-10, they should have pulled it 3-16 or how bout in January after my complaint.  So to me its a little too late to have any good feelings about Nutro. And I might add that the news on the Nutro wet food came from a news article published in a California newspaper on the evening of 4-9 before it was ever mentioned by Nutro or FDA.  </p>
<p>And as far as transparency and honest communication, why did Nutro send an e:mail on 4-3 telling everyone their food currently on shelves was safe to eat and then on 4-10 recall it all.  I dont feel this is transparent at all nor honest.  I dont expect everyone to have the same feelings towards Nutro as I do and your points are well taken however I just cant conjure up a warm fuzzy feeling for Nutro ever again.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lori Anderson&#039;s question, posted above, &quot;How did we ever get to the point of being dependant on an oppressive communist country??&quot; is a very good one.  How did this happen?  Unfortunately, as a culture, we&#039;ve decided that you can&#039;t be critical of any other person, culture or value system.  So,that opens us up to all kinds of things.  We can&#039;t be suspicious of differences, or critical of oppressive cultures (such as Islam or China).  Where does it get us?  3,000 American lives lost in a day; 4,000 pets lost in a few weeks.  When will we learn?  When will we learn that our grandparents were right to be less accepting of everyone else.  Maybe we should try to be more careful of who we open ourselves up to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lori Anderson&#8217;s question, posted above, &#8220;How did we ever get to the point of being dependant on an oppressive communist country??&#8221; is a very good one.  How did this happen?  Unfortunately, as a culture, we&#8217;ve decided that you can&#8217;t be critical of any other person, culture or value system.  So,that opens us up to all kinds of things.  We can&#8217;t be suspicious of differences, or critical of oppressive cultures (such as Islam or China).  Where does it get us?  3,000 American lives lost in a day; 4,000 pets lost in a few weeks.  When will we learn?  When will we learn that our grandparents were right to be less accepting of everyone else.  Maybe we should try to be more careful of who we open ourselves up to.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marcy, I am SO sorry for your loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcy, I am SO sorry for your loss.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathi - I kind of believe that also...but have never actually seeked it out.

I believe that they are close, but as you say there is a veil between us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathi - I kind of believe that also&#8230;but have never actually seeked it out.</p>
<p>I believe that they are close, but as you say there is a veil between us.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dogs for the most part guard the raw bones and meat - which creates problems of territory and raised hackles. One ignores it and shakes his head no. Now, I suppose I could starve them and insist they eat the raw meat and bones - but really. They are alive, healthy, and happy. That counts too.

Linda MS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dogs for the most part guard the raw bones and meat - which creates problems of territory and raised hackles. One ignores it and shakes his head no. Now, I suppose I could starve them and insist they eat the raw meat and bones - but really. They are alive, healthy, and happy. That counts too.</p>
<p>Linda MS</p>
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		<title>By: CathyA</title>
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		<dc:creator>CathyA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I’ll ask again, can someone tell me why people COOK their dogs’ food?
Comment by Sarah — April 16, 2007 @ 10:15 am 

Most likely because they feel more comfortable cooking it.  Many people are worried about bacterial and parasite issues.  Quite frankly, it&#039;s none of my business.  The over riding issue is not to get everyone to feed their pets raw.  Even among raw feeders there&#039;s varying points of view.  You can lead a horse to water, but if you dunk his head in he probably won&#039;t drink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I’ll ask again, can someone tell me why people COOK their dogs’ food?<br />
Comment by Sarah — April 16, 2007 @ 10:15 am </p>
<p>Most likely because they feel more comfortable cooking it.  Many people are worried about bacterial and parasite issues.  Quite frankly, it&#8217;s none of my business.  The over riding issue is not to get everyone to feed their pets raw.  Even among raw feeders there&#8217;s varying points of view.  You can lead a horse to water, but if you dunk his head in he probably won&#8217;t drink.</p>
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		<title>By: E. Hamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>E. Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many of us have been saying that this was never just a wet food problem. I lost two cats to the wet and have a dog recovering (I hope) from whatever was in the dry food.
I do not think melamine was the only contaminant and I am not even sure it can be called a contaminant because as widespread as this is, as fast as it has been covered up and as many big money liars have been involved, I DO think it might have been intentional.
Dry food is making dogs and cats sick, wet food is deadly and treats that were sent out to other countries are fatal too.
It really chaps me when the only focus is terrorists because who needs terrorists to fark it up when we have the fine folks in charge already who are doing a wonderful job of terrorizing us!
I digress.
I know that my dog almost died from eating a premium dry food and it STILL is not being recalled, I think they are waiting until it all gets eaten and the evidence is buried. Really buried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of us have been saying that this was never just a wet food problem. I lost two cats to the wet and have a dog recovering (I hope) from whatever was in the dry food.<br />
I do not think melamine was the only contaminant and I am not even sure it can be called a contaminant because as widespread as this is, as fast as it has been covered up and as many big money liars have been involved, I DO think it might have been intentional.<br />
Dry food is making dogs and cats sick, wet food is deadly and treats that were sent out to other countries are fatal too.<br />
It really chaps me when the only focus is terrorists because who needs terrorists to fark it up when we have the fine folks in charge already who are doing a wonderful job of terrorizing us!<br />
I digress.<br />
I know that my dog almost died from eating a premium dry food and it STILL is not being recalled, I think they are waiting until it all gets eaten and the evidence is buried. Really buried.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by slt — April 16, 2007 @ 6:48 am 
&quot;There is more than one view among vets, nutritionists and pet owners regarding the best way to feed dogs. I don’t have to feed a wolf, coyote or fox so can’t speak to that. But I do respect each person’s decision to feed the way they feel is best for their dog(s).&quot;

I wasn&#039;t disrespecting anyone.  You missed my point.  My point was not about home-preparing of foods, it was about cooking of said foods.  Baking, frying, boiling, broiling, stewing, bar-b-queing, etc.  Wild canids don&#039;t cook their food, it comes to them fresh off the hoof or paw at about 98-100 degrees, raw and bloody.  So I&#039;m curious, simply CURIOUS, why people cook their dogs&#039; food.  No disrespect, just curiosity.

One of the reasons commercial pet foods are made the way they are is to make them &quot;palatable&quot; to the HUMAN EYE.  Fillers are added to make them hold a kibble shape, to suit the convenience factor for humans to pour into a bowl.  Fillers are added to make the dog&#039;s stool form firm stools (because there&#039;s so much other junk in there that dog stools would be soft without it), and that&#039;s for the human factor, not for the dog.  And of course preservatives are added for human convenience to make the food last in a bag on your shelf for over a month.  All that crap in commercial foods are for HUMANS, not for dogs.

So I wonder what percentage of humans COOK their dogs&#039; food because it&#039;s what HUMANS would want done to their own food.  We don&#039;t eat a raw cow leg, so we think our dogs shouldn&#039;t or wouldn&#039;t like it.  But believe me, our dogs would LOVE nothing more than to lay down with a big old raw cow leg, and eat on it for a week or more.  We probably don&#039;t want one in our living rooms though, so we buy smaller portions.

So I&#039;ll ask again, can someone tell me why people COOK their dogs&#039; food?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by slt — April 16, 2007 @ 6:48 am<br />
&#8220;There is more than one view among vets, nutritionists and pet owners regarding the best way to feed dogs. I don’t have to feed a wolf, coyote or fox so can’t speak to that. But I do respect each person’s decision to feed the way they feel is best for their dog(s).&#8221;</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t disrespecting anyone.  You missed my point.  My point was not about home-preparing of foods, it was about cooking of said foods.  Baking, frying, boiling, broiling, stewing, bar-b-queing, etc.  Wild canids don&#8217;t cook their food, it comes to them fresh off the hoof or paw at about 98-100 degrees, raw and bloody.  So I&#8217;m curious, simply CURIOUS, why people cook their dogs&#8217; food.  No disrespect, just curiosity.</p>
<p>One of the reasons commercial pet foods are made the way they are is to make them &#8220;palatable&#8221; to the HUMAN EYE.  Fillers are added to make them hold a kibble shape, to suit the convenience factor for humans to pour into a bowl.  Fillers are added to make the dog&#8217;s stool form firm stools (because there&#8217;s so much other junk in there that dog stools would be soft without it), and that&#8217;s for the human factor, not for the dog.  And of course preservatives are added for human convenience to make the food last in a bag on your shelf for over a month.  All that crap in commercial foods are for HUMANS, not for dogs.</p>
<p>So I wonder what percentage of humans COOK their dogs&#8217; food because it&#8217;s what HUMANS would want done to their own food.  We don&#8217;t eat a raw cow leg, so we think our dogs shouldn&#8217;t or wouldn&#8217;t like it.  But believe me, our dogs would LOVE nothing more than to lay down with a big old raw cow leg, and eat on it for a week or more.  We probably don&#8217;t want one in our living rooms though, so we buy smaller portions.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;ll ask again, can someone tell me why people COOK their dogs&#8217; food?</p>
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