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		<title>By: Michael Polidori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Polidori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 02:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pet deaths are possibly the result of genetically engineered wheat and rice... 
I cannot say enough bad things about genetic engineering... neither can a lot of other people around the world and in the USA... here are some web sites to visit and learn from...

Pet food contaminated by genetic manipulation?
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_4776.cfm

37 to hundreds of Americans and Canadians known killed, thousands more permanently harmed, by toxins associated with genetic engineering in ONE product... Europeans spared by more thorough testing...
http://www.nemsn.org/
http://www.eosinophilia-myalgia.net/

Damaging Effects of GMOs
http://www.mercola.com/2005/jun/11/gmo_effects.htm
http://www.psrast.org/importantnews.htm#suppr

For kids - explanation of genetic engineering-
http://warrensburg.k12.mo.us/iadventure/genetics/openingstory.html

For Adults - Simple to technical explanations of genetic engineering and the consequences of its misuse...
http://www.psrast.org/intro3.htm

Arpad potatoes rats ... then us... GMO-free Ireland
http://www.gmfreeireland.org/potato/

Monsanto Aventis and Bayer! OH MY!!!
http://www.mercola.com/2006/jan/4/how-monsanto-poisons-science-at-the-cost-of-your-health.htm


GM debate in Austrailia - Same shenanigans &quot;down under&quot; as in the states by their &quot;regulatory agencies&quot; and bio-tech companies-- 
http://www.non-gm-farmers.com/news_print.asp?ID=1890

FDA sued over gene altered food policy
http://www.biointegrity.org/Lawsuit.html

Get smart about what&#039;s in your food
http://www.organicconsumers.org/gelink.cfm

Safe Food that is not GMO (genetically modified organism)
http://www.truefoodnow.org/shoppersguide/

Genetic tampering with Taco Bell taco shells
http://www.biotech-info.net/after_TB.html  

Who found the Taco Bell contamination?  These guys...
http://www.gefoodalert.org/

Two family farmers (out of thousands) attacked by Monsanto
http://nelsonfarm.net/
http://www.percyschmeiser.com/

In case you have doubts ... Mainstream Media Investigation
http://www.sacbee.com/static/live/news/projects/biotech/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pet deaths are possibly the result of genetically engineered wheat and rice&#8230;<br />
I cannot say enough bad things about genetic engineering&#8230; neither can a lot of other people around the world and in the USA&#8230; here are some web sites to visit and learn from&#8230;</p>
<p>Pet food contaminated by genetic manipulation?<br />
<a href="http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_4776.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.organicconsumers.or.....e_4776.cfm</a></p>
<p>37 to hundreds of Americans and Canadians known killed, thousands more permanently harmed, by toxins associated with genetic engineering in ONE product&#8230; Europeans spared by more thorough testing&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.nemsn.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nemsn.org/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.eosinophilia-myalgia.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.eosinophilia-myalgia.net/</a></p>
<p>Damaging Effects of GMOs<br />
<a href="http://www.mercola.com/2005/jun/11/gmo_effects.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.mercola.com/2005/jun/11/gmo_effects.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://www.psrast.org/importantnews.htm#suppr" rel="nofollow">http://www.psrast.org/importantnews.htm#suppr</a></p>
<p>For kids - explanation of genetic engineering-<br />
<a href="http://warrensburg.k12.mo.us/iadventure/genetics/openingstory.html" rel="nofollow">http://warrensburg.k12.mo.us/i.....story.html</a></p>
<p>For Adults - Simple to technical explanations of genetic engineering and the consequences of its misuse&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.psrast.org/intro3.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.psrast.org/intro3.htm</a></p>
<p>Arpad potatoes rats &#8230; then us&#8230; GMO-free Ireland<br />
<a href="http://www.gmfreeireland.org/potato/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gmfreeireland.org/potato/</a></p>
<p>Monsanto Aventis and Bayer! OH MY!!!<br />
<a href="http://www.mercola.com/2006/jan/4/how-monsanto-poisons-science-at-the-cost-of-your-health.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.mercola.com/2006/ja.....health.htm</a></p>
<p>GM debate in Austrailia - Same shenanigans &#8220;down under&#8221; as in the states by their &#8220;regulatory agencies&#8221; and bio-tech companies&#8212;<br />
<a href="http://www.non-gm-farmers.com/news_print.asp?ID=1890" rel="nofollow">http://www.non-gm-farmers.com/.....sp?ID=1890</a></p>
<p>FDA sued over gene altered food policy<br />
<a href="http://www.biointegrity.org/Lawsuit.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.biointegrity.org/Lawsuit.html</a></p>
<p>Get smart about what&#8217;s in your food<br />
<a href="http://www.organicconsumers.org/gelink.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.organicconsumers.org/gelink.cfm</a></p>
<p>Safe Food that is not GMO (genetically modified organism)<br />
<a href="http://www.truefoodnow.org/shoppersguide/" rel="nofollow">http://www.truefoodnow.org/shoppersguide/</a></p>
<p>Genetic tampering with Taco Bell taco shells<br />
<a href="http://www.biotech-info.net/after_TB.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.biotech-info.net/after_TB.html</a>  </p>
<p>Who found the Taco Bell contamination?  These guys&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.gefoodalert.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gefoodalert.org/</a></p>
<p>Two family farmers (out of thousands) attacked by Monsanto<br />
<a href="http://nelsonfarm.net/" rel="nofollow">http://nelsonfarm.net/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.percyschmeiser.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.percyschmeiser.com/</a></p>
<p>In case you have doubts &#8230; Mainstream Media Investigation<br />
<a href="http://www.sacbee.com/static/live/news/projects/biotech/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sacbee.com/static/l.....s/biotech/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Polidori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Polidori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 18:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the pet deaths;  Possible genetic manipulation of the chinese wheat in the first poisoning or our pets... If true, the implication would have rice causing the poisoning the same way... 

Web page for article on a possible genetic engineering link to pet deaths 
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_4776.cfm 

This information, if true, would have to be forced out of the FDA which will do anything to protect genetically modified foods from bad publicity, even if they are hurting us... To find one disaster caused by genetic engineering that took the lives and impaired the health of thousands of Americans and Canadians run a search using the terms eosinophilia myalgia syndrome tryptophan ... 
Here are two web sites out of 10,000+ hits ... http://www.nemsn.org/ --- http://www.eosinophilia-myalgia.net/ 

Search for &quot;Arpad Pusztai&quot; and learn how a batch of gene altered potatoes killed lab rats and the British government tried to silence the person doing the research and exposing the information, and the world&#039;s scientific community stood up and rallied around Pusztai. 

Aminopterin is sometimes used as a &quot;marker gene&quot; to allow scientists a quick way to determine if a gene package has been accepted by an altered organism (plant or animal).  Sometimes it is a gene for anti-biotic resistance.  However, since European scientists have shown that this antibiotic resistance can be transferred to bacteria in the gut of bees who feed on gene altered crops&#039; flowers, that may have changed. 

Aminopterin is a poison commonly used against rats and should never be used as a marker gene in any plant or animal used as food. Can a poison be produced inside a plant or animal by changing it&#039;s genes? Yes, of course. That is how the toxic pesticide BT is now in some of our food crops (mainly in the US and Canada -- The following is an FDA web page about a recent contamination --- their reasoning is seriously flawed and they deceitfully speak about their internal procedures and safety of the food product without saying that it has been tested and is safe -- http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~lrd/biobt10.html). This poison expresses itself in every part of the plant from the leaves to the roots to the fruit. We have also altered plants to be immune to certain herbicides, to produce pharmaceutical grade contraceptives and to grow factory enzymes ... 
ALL of these genetic manipulations cause known AND unknown changes in the plants. 

The FDA and the USDA have decided not to regulate these organisms, merely appearing to regulate them with a series of forms that does not prevent gene altered food crops from appearing on our grocery shelves, UNLABELED (even though some of these plants have been tricked into producing an EPA registered pesticide in every part of the plant) and never tested by the FDA/USDA or objective third parties. 

The FDA and the USDA consider these altered organisms (GMO, genetically modified organisms) &quot;substantially equivalent&quot; to natural plants and animals (in spite of the FDA scientific advisors recommending further study for possible harmful long term effects --- http://www.biointegrity.org/Lawsuit.html ). These modified life forms contain genes from bacteria, virus, fish, other plants and animals, and humans. Yes, you have eaten some, but you don&#039;t know when or where or in what processed foods these un-natural organisms are in. You should be afraid, unless you can afford to eat nothing but organic foods. 

If aminopterin began to be produced by gene altered wheat or rice there would be no way to catch it before it hit the market and started having some dramatic widespread harmful effects, such as the pet deaths, and someone was able to make the connection and someone else willing to report it, someone willing to spend money to prove it and then the FDA willing to act on it.  If you are just made mildly sick by intended and/or unintended changes in our food then you would be treated for the symptoms without anyone looking into your potatoes and corn for possible causative substances. 

We had a genetic contamination of Taco Bell taco shells a few years ago (http://www.biotech-info.net/after_TB.html)... How did we find out about it? Not the industry that profited off of it, not the government agencies responsible for our food safety. Scientists associated with Greenpeace (http://www.gefoodalert.org/). And the industry and the government fought the findings at first. A huge recall of corn products ensued while the company responsible tried to backdoor the approval for human consumption of this corn through the FDA and the USDA. 

WHERE IS THE COVERAGE ON THIS STORY OF THE STEALING OF OUR ENTIRE FOOD SUPPLY? 
The supreme courts of all of the western nations have allowed gene altered plants and animals to be patented and farmers who plant these crops or herd these animals owe fees and royalties everytime they plant/profit from this organisms.  So it is not 
feeding the world&#039;s starving masses&quot; that motivates these companies, but the continuing flow of money for every acre of land or every head of cattle that drives these bio-techs. They are also buying up all of the seed companies in the world so that farmers will not have any choice but to plant these crops. See what two farm families are going through (http://nelsonfarm.net/ , http://www.percyschmeiser.com/ ), both attacked by Monsanto in its relentless pursuit of profits from these crops at any cost to the public&#039;s life, liberty or financial stability. 

Genes from bacteria, virus, other animals, fish, even humans are used in this evil attack on our food supply. More information can be found at http://www.organicconsumers.org/gelink.cfm 

I hope this information does not fall on deaf ears 

Michael Polidori</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the pet deaths;  Possible genetic manipulation of the chinese wheat in the first poisoning or our pets&#8230; If true, the implication would have rice causing the poisoning the same way&#8230; </p>
<p>Web page for article on a possible genetic engineering link to pet deaths<br />
<a href="http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_4776.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.organicconsumers.or.....e_4776.cfm</a> </p>
<p>This information, if true, would have to be forced out of the FDA which will do anything to protect genetically modified foods from bad publicity, even if they are hurting us&#8230; To find one disaster caused by genetic engineering that took the lives and impaired the health of thousands of Americans and Canadians run a search using the terms eosinophilia myalgia syndrome tryptophan &#8230;<br />
Here are two web sites out of 10,000+ hits &#8230; <a href="http://www.nemsn.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nemsn.org/</a> &#8212;- <a href="http://www.eosinophilia-myalgia.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.eosinophilia-myalgia.net/</a> </p>
<p>Search for &#8220;Arpad Pusztai&#8221; and learn how a batch of gene altered potatoes killed lab rats and the British government tried to silence the person doing the research and exposing the information, and the world&#8217;s scientific community stood up and rallied around Pusztai. </p>
<p>Aminopterin is sometimes used as a &#8220;marker gene&#8221; to allow scientists a quick way to determine if a gene package has been accepted by an altered organism (plant or animal).  Sometimes it is a gene for anti-biotic resistance.  However, since European scientists have shown that this antibiotic resistance can be transferred to bacteria in the gut of bees who feed on gene altered crops&#8217; flowers, that may have changed. </p>
<p>Aminopterin is a poison commonly used against rats and should never be used as a marker gene in any plant or animal used as food. Can a poison be produced inside a plant or animal by changing it&#8217;s genes? Yes, of course. That is how the toxic pesticide BT is now in some of our food crops (mainly in the US and Canada &#8212; The following is an FDA web page about a recent contamination &#8212;- their reasoning is seriously flawed and they deceitfully speak about their internal procedures and safety of the food product without saying that it has been tested and is safe &#8212; <a href="http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~lrd/biobt10.html)" rel="nofollow">http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~lrd/biobt10.html)</a>. This poison expresses itself in every part of the plant from the leaves to the roots to the fruit. We have also altered plants to be immune to certain herbicides, to produce pharmaceutical grade contraceptives and to grow factory enzymes &#8230;<br />
ALL of these genetic manipulations cause known AND unknown changes in the plants. </p>
<p>The FDA and the USDA have decided not to regulate these organisms, merely appearing to regulate them with a series of forms that does not prevent gene altered food crops from appearing on our grocery shelves, UNLABELED (even though some of these plants have been tricked into producing an EPA registered pesticide in every part of the plant) and never tested by the FDA/USDA or objective third parties. </p>
<p>The FDA and the USDA consider these altered organisms (GMO, genetically modified organisms) &#8220;substantially equivalent&#8221; to natural plants and animals (in spite of the FDA scientific advisors recommending further study for possible harmful long term effects &#8212;- <a href="http://www.biointegrity.org/Lawsuit.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.biointegrity.org/Lawsuit.html</a> ). These modified life forms contain genes from bacteria, virus, fish, other plants and animals, and humans. Yes, you have eaten some, but you don&#8217;t know when or where or in what processed foods these un-natural organisms are in. You should be afraid, unless you can afford to eat nothing but organic foods. </p>
<p>If aminopterin began to be produced by gene altered wheat or rice there would be no way to catch it before it hit the market and started having some dramatic widespread harmful effects, such as the pet deaths, and someone was able to make the connection and someone else willing to report it, someone willing to spend money to prove it and then the FDA willing to act on it.  If you are just made mildly sick by intended and/or unintended changes in our food then you would be treated for the symptoms without anyone looking into your potatoes and corn for possible causative substances. </p>
<p>We had a genetic contamination of Taco Bell taco shells a few years ago (<a href="http://www.biotech-info.net/after_TB.html).." rel="nofollow">http://www.biotech-info.net/after_TB.html)..</a>. How did we find out about it? Not the industry that profited off of it, not the government agencies responsible for our food safety. Scientists associated with Greenpeace (<a href="http://www.gefoodalert.org/)" rel="nofollow">http://www.gefoodalert.org/)</a>. And the industry and the government fought the findings at first. A huge recall of corn products ensued while the company responsible tried to backdoor the approval for human consumption of this corn through the FDA and the USDA. </p>
<p>WHERE IS THE COVERAGE ON THIS STORY OF THE STEALING OF OUR ENTIRE FOOD SUPPLY?<br />
The supreme courts of all of the western nations have allowed gene altered plants and animals to be patented and farmers who plant these crops or herd these animals owe fees and royalties everytime they plant/profit from this organisms.  So it is not<br />
feeding the world&#8217;s starving masses&#8221; that motivates these companies, but the continuing flow of money for every acre of land or every head of cattle that drives these bio-techs. They are also buying up all of the seed companies in the world so that farmers will not have any choice but to plant these crops. See what two farm families are going through (<a href="http://nelsonfarm.net/" rel="nofollow">http://nelsonfarm.net/</a> , <a href="http://www.percyschmeiser.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.percyschmeiser.com/</a> ), both attacked by Monsanto in its relentless pursuit of profits from these crops at any cost to the public&#8217;s life, liberty or financial stability. </p>
<p>Genes from bacteria, virus, other animals, fish, even humans are used in this evil attack on our food supply. More information can be found at <a href="http://www.organicconsumers.org/gelink.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.organicconsumers.org/gelink.cfm</a> </p>
<p>I hope this information does not fall on deaf ears </p>
<p>Michael Polidori</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 23:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My formerly healthy guy ate the bad cat food and is alive but now in renal failure.  One option we are considering is a kidney transplant.  Has anyone gone that route yet?  The choice between SubQ fluids forever and transplant rejection drugs forever is not an easy one, and any experiences would be appreciated.  Also, what are the other pet owners with sick kitties doing now?  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My formerly healthy guy ate the bad cat food and is alive but now in renal failure.  One option we are considering is a kidney transplant.  Has anyone gone that route yet?  The choice between SubQ fluids forever and transplant rejection drugs forever is not an easy one, and any experiences would be appreciated.  Also, what are the other pet owners with sick kitties doing now?  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: ginger Ambrosio</title>
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		<dc:creator>ginger Ambrosio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 23:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now the plant in New Jersey has issued a warning about their products.     I will not be suprised that OUR FOOD is equally as poisoned.  yes i DID say poisoned.

There are those within our country, and many around the world who hate us, the security in food producing plants in the vast majority of these countries could EASILY put just about anything into food destined to the States.    

LOOK HOW EASY IT WAS FOR THE PETS.   I am willing to stick my neck out here and say that I think this was just an experiment on how easy it would be to get to US.   (remember the mass poisoning by Saddam.)   There are entirely too many of people here who openly hate Americans...  what&#039;s to say that they&#039;re not working in concert with their families &amp; co-conspirators in other countries?   WE ARE NOT SAFE IN OUR OWN COUNTRY ANYMORE!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now the plant in New Jersey has issued a warning about their products.     I will not be suprised that OUR FOOD is equally as poisoned.  yes i DID say poisoned.</p>
<p>There are those within our country, and many around the world who hate us, the security in food producing plants in the vast majority of these countries could EASILY put just about anything into food destined to the States.    </p>
<p>LOOK HOW EASY IT WAS FOR THE PETS.   I am willing to stick my neck out here and say that I think this was just an experiment on how easy it would be to get to US.   (remember the mass poisoning by Saddam.)   There are entirely too many of people here who openly hate Americans&#8230;  what&#8217;s to say that they&#8217;re not working in concert with their families &amp; co-conspirators in other countries?   WE ARE NOT SAFE IN OUR OWN COUNTRY ANYMORE!!!</p>
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		<title>By: ginger Ambrosio</title>
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		<dc:creator>ginger Ambrosio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 23:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I STILL want to know what they do with all that recalled food!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I STILL want to know what they do with all that recalled food!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 11:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim &amp; Barb:  I received the e-mail from Nature&#039;s Logic pet foods (they are based in Nebraska).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim &amp; Barb:  I received the e-mail from Nature&#8217;s Logic pet foods (they are based in Nebraska).</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some odds and ends of related research:

A patent which claims melamine enhances the effect and longevity of bio toxins:

http://www.everypatent.com/comp/pat5022917.html

In short mixing melamine with poisons makes the poisons stronger, and the toxin remains active longer on whatever it is sprayed on. So far I haven&#039;t found anything which would support the idea melamine itself is toxic, but the above would suggest other trace contaminants would be far more powerful in its presence.

It&#039;s kind of interesting that Wikipedia recently amended the entry on aminopterin to discount the rat poison announcements:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aminopterin

But far more interesting is the Wiki claim appears to be based solely on a company sponsored press release by a couple of outfits that have a very strong financial interest in good PR for aminopterin:

http://sev.prnewswire.com/biotechnology/20070330/SFF03531032007-1.html

Hmmm... nothing like &quot;independent&quot; testing to get unbiased factual information.

This article is related to urea, but goes a long way toward explaining why a company would be motivated to add a high nitrogen content chemical:

http://www.ext.colostate.edu/Pubs/livestk/01608.html

Evidently measuring actual protein in food directly is fantastically difficult. As protein is high in nitrogen, and the nitrogen in protein runs at a more or less constant ratio, the practice of measuring &quot;protein&quot; is to measure the nitrogen instead, then multiply by around 6 to get a measure for protein.

Melamine is 67% nitrogen. So, for example, to get a guaranteed minimum analysis of 10% crude protein, adding 2.5% melamine to garbage that has no food value whatsoever would give you the 10%. I would also be possible to throw the garbage in the pot, cook it up, then if it fell short of the 10% target, it would be easy to dose it with melamine as needed to get it to pass the minimum standard.

Unfortunately, if the rendering plants are cooking up poisoned rats, road kill, euthanized pets with flea collars attached, and grain byproducts that have been dosed with everything under the sun, the melamine will dramatically increase the toxic effects of those substances.

My guess is the melamine is a red herring to shift attention away from a laundry list of toxins present in other ingredients.

A rather chilling piece on the rendering process for pet food:

http://www.mad-cow.org/~tom/cats_bse_rend.html

In passing, one might also note that the Chinese company currently being blamed for everything happens to be a supplier of chemicals, 5 of which - rifadin, glanciclovir, clarithromycin, ibuprofen and pryazinamide - are known to be toxic to kidneys:

http://www.hengrunchina.com/en/Products.asp?DirID=43

The University of Gulaph in Canada has confirmed both melamine and aminopterin, plus they apparently have found a crystal they are unable to identify:

http://www.labservices.uoguelph.ca/urgent.cfm

On another note, the legal quacks claiming pets aren&#039;t worth anything are ignoring at least a few cases. From the following, &quot;A few malpractice cases have succeeded, such as a 2004 jury award in California to the owner of a Labrador retriever. The owner had sued his veterinarian after the dog died of liver failure. The jury found the value of the dog was $10 but assessed a &quot;unique value&quot; of $30,000.&quot;

http://www.animalcities.com/content/view/6/2/

UC Davis will test your food samples for melamine at a cost to non California residents of $200:

http://cahfs.ucdavis.edu/

In any case, the above are some of the references I&#039;ve collected over the past few weeks in an effort to find information a bit more reliable than the mindless tripe being pumped out by the Associated Press.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some odds and ends of related research:</p>
<p>A patent which claims melamine enhances the effect and longevity of bio toxins:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.everypatent.com/comp/pat5022917.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.everypatent.com/comp/pat5022917.html</a></p>
<p>In short mixing melamine with poisons makes the poisons stronger, and the toxin remains active longer on whatever it is sprayed on. So far I haven&#8217;t found anything which would support the idea melamine itself is toxic, but the above would suggest other trace contaminants would be far more powerful in its presence.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of interesting that Wikipedia recently amended the entry on aminopterin to discount the rat poison announcements:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aminopterin" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aminopterin</a></p>
<p>But far more interesting is the Wiki claim appears to be based solely on a company sponsored press release by a couple of outfits that have a very strong financial interest in good PR for aminopterin:</p>
<p><a href="http://sev.prnewswire.com/biotechnology/20070330/SFF03531032007-1.html" rel="nofollow">http://sev.prnewswire.com/biot.....007-1.html</a></p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230; nothing like &#8220;independent&#8221; testing to get unbiased factual information.</p>
<p>This article is related to urea, but goes a long way toward explaining why a company would be motivated to add a high nitrogen content chemical:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ext.colostate.edu/Pubs/livestk/01608.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ext.colostate.edu/P.....01608.html</a></p>
<p>Evidently measuring actual protein in food directly is fantastically difficult. As protein is high in nitrogen, and the nitrogen in protein runs at a more or less constant ratio, the practice of measuring &#8220;protein&#8221; is to measure the nitrogen instead, then multiply by around 6 to get a measure for protein.</p>
<p>Melamine is 67% nitrogen. So, for example, to get a guaranteed minimum analysis of 10% crude protein, adding 2.5% melamine to garbage that has no food value whatsoever would give you the 10%. I would also be possible to throw the garbage in the pot, cook it up, then if it fell short of the 10% target, it would be easy to dose it with melamine as needed to get it to pass the minimum standard.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, if the rendering plants are cooking up poisoned rats, road kill, euthanized pets with flea collars attached, and grain byproducts that have been dosed with everything under the sun, the melamine will dramatically increase the toxic effects of those substances.</p>
<p>My guess is the melamine is a red herring to shift attention away from a laundry list of toxins present in other ingredients.</p>
<p>A rather chilling piece on the rendering process for pet food:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mad-cow.org/~tom/cats_bse_rend.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mad-cow.org/~tom/cats_bse_rend.html</a></p>
<p>In passing, one might also note that the Chinese company currently being blamed for everything happens to be a supplier of chemicals, 5 of which - rifadin, glanciclovir, clarithromycin, ibuprofen and pryazinamide - are known to be toxic to kidneys:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hengrunchina.com/en/Products.asp?DirID=43" rel="nofollow">http://www.hengrunchina.com/en.....p?DirID=43</a></p>
<p>The University of Gulaph in Canada has confirmed both melamine and aminopterin, plus they apparently have found a crystal they are unable to identify:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.labservices.uoguelph.ca/urgent.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.labservices.uoguelph.ca/urgent.cfm</a></p>
<p>On another note, the legal quacks claiming pets aren&#8217;t worth anything are ignoring at least a few cases. From the following, &#8220;A few malpractice cases have succeeded, such as a 2004 jury award in California to the owner of a Labrador retriever. The owner had sued his veterinarian after the dog died of liver failure. The jury found the value of the dog was $10 but assessed a &#8220;unique value&#8221; of $30,000.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.animalcities.com/content/view/6/2/" rel="nofollow">http://www.animalcities.com/content/view/6/2/</a></p>
<p>UC Davis will test your food samples for melamine at a cost to non California residents of $200:</p>
<p><a href="http://cahfs.ucdavis.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://cahfs.ucdavis.edu/</a></p>
<p>In any case, the above are some of the references I&#8217;ve collected over the past few weeks in an effort to find information a bit more reliable than the mindless tripe being pumped out by the Associated Press.</p>
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		<description>I wanna know too Pam! Please.</description>
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		<description>RE: Comment by Pam — April 10, 2007 @ 9:50 pm 

So Pam, are you going to share with us the name of the company you inquired of, and who apparently sent you this response? Those are some pretty heavy comments they wrote, if true.</description>
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<p>So Pam, are you going to share with us the name of the company you inquired of, and who apparently sent you this response? Those are some pretty heavy comments they wrote, if true.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela J. Betz-Baron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 04:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Horrible coincidence&quot; my patoot! They are deluded if they actually think most people will believe that one!</description>
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