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		<title>By: Stefania</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 00:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anything salty offsets adverse reaction off melamine (at least in rats)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anything salty offsets adverse reaction off melamine (at least in rats)</p>
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		<title>By: Anne   in Phoenix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne   in Phoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 23:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot see the Feds doing much of anything given the power of the dollar and the food lobby.
I will not buy any more animal food items ie; dog and cat foods from any store be it Fry&#039;s WalMart,Petco or Petsmart. And I sure am going to look at another source for vegetables. More than likely I will spend the extra money for certified organic from a local or FARMERS market..... TO LATE DEL MONTE
JUST A THOUGHT  IF YOU ARE FEEDING HOMEMADE DOG FOODS AND USING LIVER  - REMEMBER THE LIVER IS WHERE ALL TOXINS ARE STORED... GET CERTIFIED ORGANIC..
HAPPY EASTER
HOPE THE BUNNIES MAKE IT THIS WEEKEND</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot see the Feds doing much of anything given the power of the dollar and the food lobby.<br />
I will not buy any more animal food items ie; dog and cat foods from any store be it Fry&#8217;s WalMart,Petco or Petsmart. And I sure am going to look at another source for vegetables. More than likely I will spend the extra money for certified organic from a local or FARMERS market&#8230;.. TO LATE DEL MONTE<br />
JUST A THOUGHT  IF YOU ARE FEEDING HOMEMADE DOG FOODS AND USING LIVER  - REMEMBER THE LIVER IS WHERE ALL TOXINS ARE STORED&#8230; GET CERTIFIED ORGANIC..<br />
HAPPY EASTER<br />
HOPE THE BUNNIES MAKE IT THIS WEEKEND</p>
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		<title>By: Marcy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 16:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brenda and all - I posted on another thread here about what I gave my JuJu while she was extremely ill with this toxin...wanted to repeat it.

She was extremely dehydrated...so I gave her a mixture of half apple juice, half water...which she drank with gusto.  I later found out from a friend who was in the medical field that apples detoxify.  He says it&#039;s the pectin in them.

I don&#039;t know for sure if this helped to save JuJu&#039;s life or not...but I sure don&#039;t think that it hurt her.  The fruit sugar also gave her some added energy when she needed it, and wouldn&#039;t (or couldn&#039;t) eat.

Another thing I did was to give JuJu a lot of extra affection.  They seem to get depressed somewhat while they are ill.  The constant touching helps to stimulate them.

Just my experiences...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brenda and all - I posted on another thread here about what I gave my JuJu while she was extremely ill with this toxin&#8230;wanted to repeat it.</p>
<p>She was extremely dehydrated&#8230;so I gave her a mixture of half apple juice, half water&#8230;which she drank with gusto.  I later found out from a friend who was in the medical field that apples detoxify.  He says it&#8217;s the pectin in them.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know for sure if this helped to save JuJu&#8217;s life or not&#8230;but I sure don&#8217;t think that it hurt her.  The fruit sugar also gave her some added energy when she needed it, and wouldn&#8217;t (or couldn&#8217;t) eat.</p>
<p>Another thing I did was to give JuJu a lot of extra affection.  They seem to get depressed somewhat while they are ill.  The constant touching helps to stimulate them.</p>
<p>Just my experiences&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Marcy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 16:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sue - I don&#039;t trust any of the glutens right now...when I went on the suspect China supplier&#039;s site...they don&#039;t just sell wheat gluten...but other grain glutens.

My JuJu got deathly ill after eating Fancy Feast, which includes wheat gluten.  She started improving and doing better, until I fed her a well-known brand of dry food, Royal Canin, which contains corn gluten.  She became extremely ill again, with the same symptoms.

She is now recovering (again), and is doing well, considering what she went through. 

No more glutens of any kind for my cats (or me for that matter)!  I have a feeling that they all might be contaminated.  

Better safe than sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue - I don&#8217;t trust any of the glutens right now&#8230;when I went on the suspect China supplier&#8217;s site&#8230;they don&#8217;t just sell wheat gluten&#8230;but other grain glutens.</p>
<p>My JuJu got deathly ill after eating Fancy Feast, which includes wheat gluten.  She started improving and doing better, until I fed her a well-known brand of dry food, Royal Canin, which contains corn gluten.  She became extremely ill again, with the same symptoms.</p>
<p>She is now recovering (again), and is doing well, considering what she went through. </p>
<p>No more glutens of any kind for my cats (or me for that matter)!  I have a feeling that they all might be contaminated.  </p>
<p>Better safe than sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 15:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by Sue — April 7, 2007 @ 9:08 am

Sue, I&#039;m sorry about your girl.  I don&#039;t remember seeing anything about rice yet, but maybe other people have...Anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by Sue — April 7, 2007 @ 9:08 am</p>
<p>Sue, I&#8217;m sorry about your girl.  I don&#8217;t remember seeing anything about rice yet, but maybe other people have&#8230;Anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Janice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 15:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brenda,

Here are some sites that have members who offer suggestions.  Joining the group is free.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-CRF-Support/

Hope they can give you some suggestions on getting your baby to eat.

Good luck.  Please keep us informed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brenda,</p>
<p>Here are some sites that have members who offer suggestions.  Joining the group is free.<br />
<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/" rel="nofollow">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/.....d-Feeding/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-CRF-Support/" rel="nofollow">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-CRF-Support/</a></p>
<p>Hope they can give you some suggestions on getting your baby to eat.</p>
<p>Good luck.  Please keep us informed.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 15:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura, I realize it could be just old age for my cat but, her symptoms came on suddenly. I took her to the vet just after she started behaving differently and he said she had the blood work of a 2 year old. Kept feeding her the food and she would eat it occasionally. Symptons continued and I took her back to the vet. Her bun and creatinine had increased substantially and she was now considered in renal failure. 
I am very suspicious of the rice gluten. I would bet the rice came from Asia also.
Many people on the blogs have mentioned other grains such as corn, etc. but there has been no mention of rice.
If anyone has an info on the source of Menu Foods rice I would appreciate it. This food is still on the shelves (although my cat has not had any since the recalls began).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura, I realize it could be just old age for my cat but, her symptoms came on suddenly. I took her to the vet just after she started behaving differently and he said she had the blood work of a 2 year old. Kept feeding her the food and she would eat it occasionally. Symptons continued and I took her back to the vet. Her bun and creatinine had increased substantially and she was now considered in renal failure.<br />
I am very suspicious of the rice gluten. I would bet the rice came from Asia also.<br />
Many people on the blogs have mentioned other grains such as corn, etc. but there has been no mention of rice.<br />
If anyone has an info on the source of Menu Foods rice I would appreciate it. This food is still on the shelves (although my cat has not had any since the recalls began).</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 14:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by Garyn — April 7, 2007 @ 8:12 am

Garyn, I&#039;m so sorry. What a heartbreaking story. 

And Sue - not that it might NOT have been the food, but remember, renal failure (the chronic kind) is very, VERY common among older cats.  And it can be managed - my old guy had it for three years before he died back in October.  

The weird cases are the younger, healthy cats like Garyn&#039;s whose kidneys suddenly fail overnight.  Unless cats get into something toxic, that really doesn&#039;t happen very often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by Garyn — April 7, 2007 @ 8:12 am</p>
<p>Garyn, I&#8217;m so sorry. What a heartbreaking story. </p>
<p>And Sue - not that it might NOT have been the food, but remember, renal failure (the chronic kind) is very, VERY common among older cats.  And it can be managed - my old guy had it for three years before he died back in October.  </p>
<p>The weird cases are the younger, healthy cats like Garyn&#8217;s whose kidneys suddenly fail overnight.  Unless cats get into something toxic, that really doesn&#8217;t happen very often.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 14:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, what about Rice Gluten? My 15 year old cat was eating Nutro Natural Choice Indoor Senior Chicken and Lamb formula (rice gluten being one of the ingredients). In Dec. she suddenly started exhibiting the symptoms of renal failure (drinking large amounts, urinating large amounts). Turned her nose up at her wet food and would eat only dry. 
She is now in early stages of renal failure.
Anyone have any idea where the rice may have come from? Perhaps something deadly was used to &quot;thicken the gravy&quot; in the rice gluten as well.
Any info on the rice gluten question would be appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, what about Rice Gluten? My 15 year old cat was eating Nutro Natural Choice Indoor Senior Chicken and Lamb formula (rice gluten being one of the ingredients). In Dec. she suddenly started exhibiting the symptoms of renal failure (drinking large amounts, urinating large amounts). Turned her nose up at her wet food and would eat only dry.<br />
She is now in early stages of renal failure.<br />
Anyone have any idea where the rice may have come from? Perhaps something deadly was used to &#8220;thicken the gravy&#8221; in the rice gluten as well.<br />
Any info on the rice gluten question would be appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Garyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 14:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE COMMENT BY LEE 

We found my previously completely healthy five year old cat dead before the recall on March 4, 2007. We buried her because we didn&#039;t know what had happened. 

I fed her Innova dry and canned (made by menu) her entire life. A few months ago, she ate the Innova canned and threw up. I thought she ate it too fast. After that she would not touch the Innova. I wanted her to have canned, in addition to the dry, so I alternated the Innova with Fancy Feast and she loved it. This started I believe in December 2006 It was before Christmas.. She ate the Fancy Feast and only licked the gravy from the Innova. She threw up a few more times and again I attributed it to eating too fast. There were a few kinds of the Fancy Feast that she would just lick the gravy.

When we found her, she was lying on her side and there was blood near her mouth. There was also vomit. I live in New York where the only lab found the rat poison and it seems she had bleeding.

Coincidence...maybe...maybe not. I just don’t know. She could have had a an aneurysm or a blood clot which can cause sudden death in young cats. I know that. But how odd that it would happen during the biggest food recall ever.
 
When I saw her in the morning she was lying on my white couch, the only place she isn’t allowed. I called to her as I do every morning because every morning she would be on my white couch and she didn’t move. For a split second I thought she wasn’t answering me because she didn’t want to get off the couch. It was heartbreaking. My dog has only now stopped searching for her.

I still have the cans of both foods and when they are definitive on the toxins I may have them tested. 

TO KIM: Yes lets throw those cans of vegetables and don’t forget the College Inn Chicken Broth made by Delmonte and it has wheat gluten... *shudder*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE COMMENT BY LEE </p>
<p>We found my previously completely healthy five year old cat dead before the recall on March 4, 2007. We buried her because we didn&#8217;t know what had happened. </p>
<p>I fed her Innova dry and canned (made by menu) her entire life. A few months ago, she ate the Innova canned and threw up. I thought she ate it too fast. After that she would not touch the Innova. I wanted her to have canned, in addition to the dry, so I alternated the Innova with Fancy Feast and she loved it. This started I believe in December 2006 It was before Christmas.. She ate the Fancy Feast and only licked the gravy from the Innova. She threw up a few more times and again I attributed it to eating too fast. There were a few kinds of the Fancy Feast that she would just lick the gravy.</p>
<p>When we found her, she was lying on her side and there was blood near her mouth. There was also vomit. I live in New York where the only lab found the rat poison and it seems she had bleeding.</p>
<p>Coincidence&#8230;maybe&#8230;maybe not. I just don’t know. She could have had a an aneurysm or a blood clot which can cause sudden death in young cats. I know that. But how odd that it would happen during the biggest food recall ever.</p>
<p>When I saw her in the morning she was lying on my white couch, the only place she isn’t allowed. I called to her as I do every morning because every morning she would be on my white couch and she didn’t move. For a split second I thought she wasn’t answering me because she didn’t want to get off the couch. It was heartbreaking. My dog has only now stopped searching for her.</p>
<p>I still have the cans of both foods and when they are definitive on the toxins I may have them tested. </p>
<p>TO KIM: Yes lets throw those cans of vegetables and don’t forget the College Inn Chicken Broth made by Delmonte and it has wheat gluten&#8230; *shudder*</p>
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