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		<title>By: Christie Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/06/1385/comment-page-4/#comment-34142</link>
		<dc:creator>Christie Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 07:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what, Audrey? As someone who has fed a homemade diet for over 21 years, I think that&#039;s a load of self-righteous crap. 

We&#039;re talking about ACTUAL poison. A contamination of the food supply. Government and corporate ethics, transparency, and accountability.

The choices people make about how to feed their pets, and themselves, are their own. They have the right to walk into the market and buy food with accurate labels and oh yeah... not containing actual poison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what, Audrey? As someone who has fed a homemade diet for over 21 years, I think that&#8217;s a load of self-righteous crap. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re talking about ACTUAL poison. A contamination of the food supply. Government and corporate ethics, transparency, and accountability.</p>
<p>The choices people make about how to feed their pets, and themselves, are their own. They have the right to walk into the market and buy food with accurate labels and oh yeah&#8230; not containing actual poison.</p>
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		<title>By: Audrey</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/06/1385/comment-page-4/#comment-34140</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 07:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really-
If people are going to own pets they need to be feeding them better food. This crap cheap food, which was what was mostly affected, is the stuff that is killing peoples animals reguardless of tainting or not. With by-products and cancer causing agents in them. And the stuff on TV that says its good, like Purina and Iams and all those &quot;premium&quot; foods you can get at the grocery store, well they lie. Put it this way, everyone knows ol&#039; roy right. You are paying sometimes 4 times the cost for those &quot;premium foods&quot; when its the same stuff in it as the 5 dollar ol&#039; roy. If you cant afford to feed your pet good food and really take care of it, then you shouldnt own one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really-<br />
If people are going to own pets they need to be feeding them better food. This crap cheap food, which was what was mostly affected, is the stuff that is killing peoples animals reguardless of tainting or not. With by-products and cancer causing agents in them. And the stuff on TV that says its good, like Purina and Iams and all those &#8220;premium&#8221; foods you can get at the grocery store, well they lie. Put it this way, everyone knows ol&#8217; roy right. You are paying sometimes 4 times the cost for those &#8220;premium foods&#8221; when its the same stuff in it as the 5 dollar ol&#8217; roy. If you cant afford to feed your pet good food and really take care of it, then you shouldnt own one.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/06/1385/comment-page-4/#comment-28329</link>
		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 06:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathi:

I haven&#039;t been using anything on the recall list or brands associated.  I think I had, back in Feb or early Mar, but all packaging is gone.  I gave the dogs one bag of IAMS instead of Beneful, back in early Mar, because I couldn&#039;t get the Beneful.  I&#039;ve been cooking for them for nearly a month, except for a little of the NaturalLife for both cats &amp; dogs.  I have a 110 lb dog with quite an appetite.

Just found this listing - interesting with lots of info.  Note their sick/dead pet count:  http://www.michvma.org/index.cfm?id=278</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathi:</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t been using anything on the recall list or brands associated.  I think I had, back in Feb or early Mar, but all packaging is gone.  I gave the dogs one bag of IAMS instead of Beneful, back in early Mar, because I couldn&#8217;t get the Beneful.  I&#8217;ve been cooking for them for nearly a month, except for a little of the NaturalLife for both cats &amp; dogs.  I have a 110 lb dog with quite an appetite.</p>
<p>Just found this listing - interesting with lots of info.  Note their sick/dead pet count:  <a href="http://www.michvma.org/index.cfm?id=278" rel="nofollow">http://www.michvma.org/index.cfm?id=278</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kathi</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/06/1385/comment-page-4/#comment-28317</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 05:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kat
Please don&#039;t use any brand connected to the other brands that are on the list.  Try to find the parent company of your brand to see if they have other brands on the list.  I&#039;m currently using Natural Balance.  At time of recall I had been using Nutro and my baby was vomiting from it.  Her can was not on list until I read a post here of today a university found it contained melamine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kat<br />
Please don&#8217;t use any brand connected to the other brands that are on the list.  Try to find the parent company of your brand to see if they have other brands on the list.  I&#8217;m currently using Natural Balance.  At time of recall I had been using Nutro and my baby was vomiting from it.  Her can was not on list until I read a post here of today a university found it contained melamine.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/06/1385/comment-page-4/#comment-28314</link>
		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 05:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m reading all over the place about Beneful, which really has me concerned.  My dogs started not wanting to eat it about 6 wks ago -- maybe longer.  People have been calling Purina since Jan. about sick &amp; dying pets.

All my 5 animals seemed &quot;under-the-weather&quot; about 6 weeks ago.  They all seem fine now.  Happy &amp; peppy again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reading all over the place about Beneful, which really has me concerned.  My dogs started not wanting to eat it about 6 wks ago &#8212; maybe longer.  People have been calling Purina since Jan. about sick &amp; dying pets.</p>
<p>All my 5 animals seemed &#8220;under-the-weather&#8221; about 6 weeks ago.  They all seem fine now.  Happy &amp; peppy again.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathi</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/06/1385/comment-page-4/#comment-28310</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 05:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s lots of food out there still not on the list.  Purina, Nutro and Fancy Feast.  Dry and canned not just those pouches.  I&#039;m checking lot&#039;s of small town newspapers and tv stations around the country who have comment columns and blogs that don&#039;t usually show up when googling for news.  I&#039;ve lived all over the country so I check back from time to time.  Anyway pet parents are complaining about many brands and flavors not on the list.  I have friends all over the country who don&#039;t have computers (my age - old) so I called them to warn them and I&#039;m glad I told them not to trust any of the recalled brands dry and treats and canned not on the list.  They called back the other day and thanked me for the warning I gave them 2 weeks before the biscuits and treats were recalled.  You&#039;re right Lynn.  We are all smart.  And we care deeply for not only our own babies but everyone&#039;s baby.  That&#039;s why we now know one another.  I&#039;m sure we have something else we could be doing but this is top priority right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s lots of food out there still not on the list.  Purina, Nutro and Fancy Feast.  Dry and canned not just those pouches.  I&#8217;m checking lot&#8217;s of small town newspapers and tv stations around the country who have comment columns and blogs that don&#8217;t usually show up when googling for news.  I&#8217;ve lived all over the country so I check back from time to time.  Anyway pet parents are complaining about many brands and flavors not on the list.  I have friends all over the country who don&#8217;t have computers (my age - old) so I called them to warn them and I&#8217;m glad I told them not to trust any of the recalled brands dry and treats and canned not on the list.  They called back the other day and thanked me for the warning I gave them 2 weeks before the biscuits and treats were recalled.  You&#8217;re right Lynn.  We are all smart.  And we care deeply for not only our own babies but everyone&#8217;s baby.  That&#8217;s why we now know one another.  I&#8217;m sure we have something else we could be doing but this is top priority right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/06/1385/comment-page-4/#comment-28307</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 05:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>POST THE STORE NAME AND LOCATION

RE Comment by Bernard J. (Bernie) Starzewski — April 8, 2007 @ 6:01 pm 

Bernie, thanks so much for having the courage to post this information regarding where you purchased unwittingly the tainted food.  Everyone should be posting this. If the the stores won&#039;t take the food of the shelves, then I guess we need to &quot;help&quot; them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>POST THE STORE NAME AND LOCATION</p>
<p>RE Comment by Bernard J. (Bernie) Starzewski — April 8, 2007 @ 6:01 pm </p>
<p>Bernie, thanks so much for having the courage to post this information regarding where you purchased unwittingly the tainted food.  Everyone should be posting this. If the the stores won&#8217;t take the food of the shelves, then I guess we need to &#8220;help&#8221; them.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/06/1385/comment-page-4/#comment-28305</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 04:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MFG PLANTS: THE NUMBERS:

To KathiA:

While it&#039;s perfectly scientific to do random lot selection testing, when it comes to food [human or pet] my feeling is that &quot;random testing&quot; needs to be defined in the test plans. Who knows if they were? The REAL questions should be: 
1 - How many units comprise each lot? 
2 - How many lots were tested?
3 - How many units within each lot were tested?
4 - How many aggregate units were tested? 

The questions sound redundant, but they are designed to find out if they really had a testing plan for quality control. If they are honest, their answers will explain if they only tested one unit. Period. Or one unit per lot. Or one unit haphazardly......

Of course, the operative word here is &quot;honest.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MFG PLANTS: THE NUMBERS:</p>
<p>To KathiA:</p>
<p>While it&#8217;s perfectly scientific to do random lot selection testing, when it comes to food [human or pet] my feeling is that &#8220;random testing&#8221; needs to be defined in the test plans. Who knows if they were? The REAL questions should be:<br />
1 - How many units comprise each lot?<br />
2 - How many lots were tested?<br />
3 - How many units within each lot were tested?<br />
4 - How many aggregate units were tested? </p>
<p>The questions sound redundant, but they are designed to find out if they really had a testing plan for quality control. If they are honest, their answers will explain if they only tested one unit. Period. Or one unit per lot. Or one unit haphazardly&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Of course, the operative word here is &#8220;honest.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/06/1385/comment-page-4/#comment-28294</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 04:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>APRIL 28TH MARCH

Just a thought:

Wouldn&#039;t it be something if those marching wore t-shirts with their occupations on the back of the shirt? Why? To send the message that many pet owners are educated professionals. I mean no disrespect to anyone - I would just like to send the message that we&#039;ve got a ton of brain power here and won&#039;t tolerate this incompetence and deception. Examples:

WE DESERVE THE TRUTH
I am an  Attorney

WE DESERVE THE TRUTH
I am a Veterinarian

WE DESERVE THE TRUTH
I am a Microbiologist

Etc., etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>APRIL 28TH MARCH</p>
<p>Just a thought:</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be something if those marching wore t-shirts with their occupations on the back of the shirt? Why? To send the message that many pet owners are educated professionals. I mean no disrespect to anyone - I would just like to send the message that we&#8217;ve got a ton of brain power here and won&#8217;t tolerate this incompetence and deception. Examples:</p>
<p>WE DESERVE THE TRUTH<br />
I am an  Attorney</p>
<p>WE DESERVE THE TRUTH<br />
I am a Veterinarian</p>
<p>WE DESERVE THE TRUTH<br />
I am a Microbiologist</p>
<p>Etc., etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/06/1385/comment-page-4/#comment-28287</link>
		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 04:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Life is what my cats were throwing up about 6 weeks ago.  They were on their 2nd bag &amp; started avoiding it &amp; getting sick.  I still have it, but they&#039;re getting homemade &amp; NaturalLife now.

I&#039;m trying to formulate my own kibble now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Life is what my cats were throwing up about 6 weeks ago.  They were on their 2nd bag &amp; started avoiding it &amp; getting sick.  I still have it, but they&#8217;re getting homemade &amp; NaturalLife now.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying to formulate my own kibble now.</p>
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