Comments on: Pet-food recall: The morning round-up … and caring for ferals http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/04/pet-food-recall-the-morning-round-up-and-caring-for-ferals/ Blogging by a team of pet-care experts. Tue, 07 Feb 2012 07:26:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Dawn Turner http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/04/pet-food-recall-the-morning-round-up-and-caring-for-ferals/comment-page-1/#comment-24770 Dawn Turner Wed, 04 Apr 2007 21:05:34 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/04/pet-food-recall-the-morning-round-up-and-caring-for-ferals/#comment-24770 Sarah wrote: "Coyotes are SMART animals. (Wyle-E-Coyote) They will work as a pack and lure your dog out to be killed. They will use a lone Coyote to entice play, or entice mating, and lure your dog out, thinking there is only one Coyote there, but the others are strategically located around the lone Coyote to surround and ambush the dog when it gets to the lone Coyote." I agree. Living in Southeastern Arizona, the coyotes here must be smarter than the average coyote because they are experts when it comes to hunting and killing cats and dogs. And larger breeds are NOT exempt. The last dog I heard about was a young rottie (about 1 year old). We don't have feral or free-roaming cat issues outside of city limits in our county. Coyotes have effectively removed them. The weather, disease, hawks/eagles and cars also take their toll on free-roaming and feral cats and dogs. Nature is a cruel taskmaster. Sarah wrote: “Coyotes are SMART animals. (Wyle-E-Coyote) They will work as a pack and lure your dog out to be killed. They will use a lone Coyote to entice play, or entice mating, and lure your dog out, thinking there is only one Coyote there, but the others are strategically located around the lone Coyote to surround and ambush the dog when it gets to the lone Coyote.”

I agree. Living in Southeastern Arizona, the coyotes here must be smarter than the average coyote because they are experts when it comes to hunting and killing cats and dogs. And larger breeds are NOT exempt. The last dog I heard about was a young rottie (about 1 year old). We don’t have feral or free-roaming cat issues outside of city limits in our county. Coyotes have effectively removed them. The weather, disease, hawks/eagles and cars also take their toll on free-roaming and feral cats and dogs. Nature is a cruel taskmaster.

]]> By: Linda http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/04/pet-food-recall-the-morning-round-up-and-caring-for-ferals/comment-page-1/#comment-24715 Linda Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:23:04 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/04/pet-food-recall-the-morning-round-up-and-caring-for-ferals/#comment-24715 And P.S. - so right. Wildlife is losing their fear of man - hence the coyote in the sandwich shop. I still feel sorry for it. It's not their fault. And P.S. - so right. Wildlife is losing their fear of man - hence the coyote in the sandwich shop. I still feel sorry for it. It’s not their fault.

]]> By: Linda http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/04/pet-food-recall-the-morning-round-up-and-caring-for-ferals/comment-page-1/#comment-24703 Linda Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:15:22 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/04/pet-food-recall-the-morning-round-up-and-caring-for-ferals/#comment-24703 We also have cougar killing dogs in my area, they climb over fences and eat the dog food and eat fido too! They come up from the river bed. They suggest not leaving pets out at night in the back yard. We also have cougar killing dogs in my area, they climb over fences and eat the dog food and eat fido too! They come up from the river bed.

They suggest not leaving pets out at night in the back yard.

]]> By: Linda http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/04/pet-food-recall-the-morning-round-up-and-caring-for-ferals/comment-page-1/#comment-24696 Linda Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:10:50 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/04/pet-food-recall-the-morning-round-up-and-caring-for-ferals/#comment-24696 All the coyote comments: I agree. That's why when one was stalking me and my two very large coonhounds - 75 lbs redbone female and 90 lb Treeing Walker - I considered my options and knew if it attacked I'd have to turn the dogs lose, they were both leashed and we were at the river. That Coyote had pups nearby, I later found out from the Park Ranger, and didn't want us near them - pups were in a field adjacent to the trail. But I was unaware of anything, just taking dogs for a nice Sunday walk. All turned out okay, but it gave me a funny feeling. Where I live, both my front yard and back yard are surrouded by 6' redwood fence. So they aren't getting in. But I hear them and I know they are not to be messed with. All the coyote comments:

I agree. That’s why when one was stalking me and my two very large coonhounds - 75 lbs redbone female and 90 lb Treeing Walker - I considered my options and knew if it attacked I’d have to turn the dogs lose, they were both leashed and we were at the river. That Coyote had pups nearby, I later found out from the Park Ranger, and didn’t want us near them - pups were in a field adjacent to the trail. But I was unaware of anything, just taking dogs for a nice Sunday walk. All turned out okay, but it gave me a funny feeling.

Where I live, both my front yard and back yard are surrouded by 6’ redwood fence. So they aren’t getting in. But I hear them and I know they are not to be messed with.

]]> By: johnypaycut http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/04/pet-food-recall-the-morning-round-up-and-caring-for-ferals/comment-page-1/#comment-24652 johnypaycut Wed, 04 Apr 2007 19:42:09 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/04/pet-food-recall-the-morning-round-up-and-caring-for-ferals/#comment-24652 sarah, i've seen the "baiting" game. the coyote came right to my door. holwed until i came out ? it wouldn't quit? i nearly chased it down the hill (about 1am.) but though better of it? as i was walking inside , i heard a whole pack of animals howl? it wasn't coyote either ,it was wild dogs. could it be i was being baited? (better get my 30.6 outa the closet)? thats a scarry thought .. the ba$t@rds would'a jumped me? sarah,
i’ve seen the “baiting” game. the coyote came right to my door. holwed until i came out ?
it wouldn’t quit? i nearly chased it down the hill (about 1am.) but though better of it?
as i was walking inside , i heard a whole pack of animals howl? it wasn’t coyote either ,it was wild dogs. could it be i was being baited?
(better get my 30.6 outa the closet)?
thats a scarry thought .. the ba$t@rds would’a
jumped me?

]]> By: Gwen http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/04/pet-food-recall-the-morning-round-up-and-caring-for-ferals/comment-page-1/#comment-24650 Gwen Wed, 04 Apr 2007 19:41:10 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/04/pet-food-recall-the-morning-round-up-and-caring-for-ferals/#comment-24650 Re: coyotes.. I wouldn't tempt fate. My parents' neighborhood used to be home to a great many rabbits, squirrels, chipmunks, and feral cats. And then the coyotes and fisher cats moved in. The feral cat populace was decimated, and the majority of cats that had been allowed outdoors suddenly 'went missing'.. never to be seen again. I can't remember the last time I saw a rabbit or squirrel on that street- apart from the rabbit I brought to the emergency clinic for euthanasia last summer. His leg had been bitten off by something.. it was gruesome. The coyotes (some of which are quite large and Shepherd-y looking.. so I'd imagine there's some dog mixed in the lines somewhere) are no longer fearful of humans.. or of large dogs. My parents' malamutes can no longer play in their (fenced in) backyard after dark, as packs of coyotes have attempted to fight with them through the fence. A couple years ago, when the coyote populace was really beginning to explode (and thus become a nuisance), one of the local papers ran an article about a den (I think it was in Cape Cod), where they'd found hundreds of discarded flea collars from cats that had, presumably, wound up becoming some coyote's dinner. I wouldn't trust coyotes around my pets. Re: coyotes.. I wouldn’t tempt fate.

My parents’ neighborhood used to be home to a great many rabbits, squirrels, chipmunks, and feral cats. And then the coyotes and fisher cats moved in. The feral cat populace was decimated, and the majority of cats that had been allowed outdoors suddenly ‘went missing’.. never to be seen again. I can’t remember the last time I saw a rabbit or squirrel on that street- apart from the rabbit I brought to the emergency clinic for euthanasia last summer. His leg had been bitten off by something.. it was gruesome.

The coyotes (some of which are quite large and Shepherd-y looking.. so I’d imagine there’s some dog mixed in the lines somewhere) are no longer fearful of humans.. or of large dogs. My parents’ malamutes can no longer play in their (fenced in) backyard after dark, as packs of coyotes have attempted to fight with them through the fence.

A couple years ago, when the coyote populace was really beginning to explode (and thus become a nuisance), one of the local papers ran an article about a den (I think it was in Cape Cod), where they’d found hundreds of discarded flea collars from cats that had, presumably, wound up becoming some coyote’s dinner.

I wouldn’t trust coyotes around my pets.

]]> By: Steve http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/04/pet-food-recall-the-morning-round-up-and-caring-for-ferals/comment-page-1/#comment-24644 Steve Wed, 04 Apr 2007 19:36:23 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/04/pet-food-recall-the-morning-round-up-and-caring-for-ferals/#comment-24644 Comment by johnypaycut — April 4, 2007 @ 1:22 pm A lot of these Animals are being forced out their natural environment by development and increases in human population devouring up natural resources. I don't see how it can be sustained at the current rate the human "race" is running amuck. There is a concept known as balance which would translate in worldly terms as controlled intelligent growth. Lets hope humanity wises up soon and considers the concept of looking out for number one as a main focus of individual survival as obsolete and faulty dogma. Get The Facts: http://www.api4animals.org/facts?p=359&more=1 Comment by johnypaycut — April 4, 2007 @ 1:22 pm

A lot of these Animals are being forced out their natural environment by development and increases in human population devouring up natural resources. I don’t see how it can be sustained at the current rate the human “race” is running amuck. There is a concept known as balance which would translate in worldly terms as controlled intelligent growth. Lets hope humanity wises up soon and considers the concept of looking out for number one as a main focus of individual survival as obsolete and faulty dogma.

Get The Facts:
http://www.api4animals.org/facts?p=359&more=1

]]> By: johnypaycut http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/04/pet-food-recall-the-morning-round-up-and-caring-for-ferals/comment-page-1/#comment-24627 johnypaycut Wed, 04 Apr 2007 19:22:04 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/04/pet-food-recall-the-morning-round-up-and-caring-for-ferals/#comment-24627 Linda, I'l agree the Coyotes are a part of nature, and a fascinating 1 .. they are however moving in to the citys, 'burbs, and basicly anywhere they are allowed? it is a delimea , as in certain instances they are preditory , and pose a threat to domestic pets. i beleive that if your way off in the woods , you'l find little trouble with 'em? next to me in the town cats are being eatten, small dogs , and anything they can catch? this is a problem for some town/city folk you can't let your pets out , unguarded they can be killed. 50years ago this wouldn't have happened. the coyote was shot, hunted to extinction in the east. we'v got to adapt ,otherwise it's war on the poor buggers? already they'r hunted , and killed. if people don't decide to behave in a responsible fashion' the coyotes, and other wildlife will end up being hunted, and killed once again. many city/town folks don't like 'em? Linda,
I’l agree the Coyotes are a part of nature, and
a fascinating 1 .. they are however moving in to
the citys, ‘burbs, and basicly anywhere they are
allowed? it is a delimea , as in certain instances they are preditory , and pose a threat
to domestic pets. i beleive that if your way off in the woods , you’l find little trouble
with ‘em? next to me in the town cats are being
eatten, small dogs , and anything they can catch? this is a problem for some town/city folk
you can’t let your pets out , unguarded they can
be killed. 50years ago this wouldn’t have happened. the coyote was shot, hunted to extinction in the east. we’v got to adapt ,otherwise it’s war on the poor buggers?
already they’r hunted , and killed. if people
don’t decide to behave in a responsible fashion’
the coyotes, and other wildlife will end up
being hunted, and killed once again. many
city/town folks don’t like ‘em?

]]> By: Steve http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/04/pet-food-recall-the-morning-round-up-and-caring-for-ferals/comment-page-1/#comment-24622 Steve Wed, 04 Apr 2007 19:16:35 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/04/pet-food-recall-the-morning-round-up-and-caring-for-ferals/#comment-24622 Comment by Sarah — April 4, 2007 @ 1:09 pm Good Point. Wild animals are wild animals. These are not domesticated house pets. And if they are coming to your house they are not looking for a home. They are looking for something to eat. Comment by Sarah — April 4, 2007 @ 1:09 pm

Good Point. Wild animals are wild animals. These are not domesticated house pets. And if they are coming to your house they are not looking for a home. They are looking for something to eat.

]]> By: Sarah http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/04/pet-food-recall-the-morning-round-up-and-caring-for-ferals/comment-page-1/#comment-24613 Sarah Wed, 04 Apr 2007 19:09:28 +0000 http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/04/04/pet-food-recall-the-morning-round-up-and-caring-for-ferals/#comment-24613 Caution about Coyotes and dogs: Coyotes are SMART animals. (Wyle-E-Coyote) They will work as a pack and lure your dog out to be killed. They will use a lone Coyote to entice play, or entice mating, and lure your dog out, thinking there is only one Coyote there, but the others are strategically located around the lone Coyote to surround and ambush the dog when it gets to the lone Coyote. Everyone needs to be very careful with their dogs around Coyotes. But yes, Coyotes are very cool. Very smart. Caution about Coyotes and dogs:

Coyotes are SMART animals. (Wyle-E-Coyote) They will work as a pack and lure your dog out to be killed. They will use a lone Coyote to entice play, or entice mating, and lure your dog out, thinking there is only one Coyote there, but the others are strategically located around the lone Coyote to surround and ambush the dog when it gets to the lone Coyote. Everyone needs to be very careful with their dogs around Coyotes. But yes, Coyotes are very cool. Very smart.

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