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	<title>Comments on: Pet-food recall: Showing some guts in Oregon</title>
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		<title>By: Deborah J. Wilmoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah J. Wilmoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 15:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a 12 year old cat and he did eat some Iam&#039;s canned catfood during the first wave of the poisoning.  If the companies cannot insure their ingredients, then they deserve to be put out of business.  What is the FDA doing about all of this anyway and Homeland Security????  They had better get busy and find the culprits whether they are in another country or not and issue punishment. The Fair Trade Agreements be damned for taking industry and jobs away from us in the U.S.  We never used to have these problems before.  I am for some companies being formed in the U.S. and producing all of the ingredients and packaging for pet food and human food with tight security.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a 12 year old cat and he did eat some Iam&#8217;s canned catfood during the first wave of the poisoning.  If the companies cannot insure their ingredients, then they deserve to be put out of business.  What is the FDA doing about all of this anyway and Homeland Security????  They had better get busy and find the culprits whether they are in another country or not and issue punishment. The Fair Trade Agreements be damned for taking industry and jobs away from us in the U.S.  We never used to have these problems before.  I am for some companies being formed in the U.S. and producing all of the ingredients and packaging for pet food and human food with tight security.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 06:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lost my 13 yr old dog Bro on 1/5/07 and then learned from the news about the food recall. I checked the cans that I had left and learned that Nutro Max Puppy food was on the list and it is what I fed her for 13 years!  She ate mostly the dry formula, but lost her teeth with age, so I gave her the wet stuff, which of course killed her. She had all the symptoms of renal failure which are also old age symptoms. I have filed a class action suit against Menu Foods, and I now know lots of other sad and now enraged pet owners across the country and in Canada have done the same. It will take years to resolve the issue; I still have my cat and am making her food myself.  I am not buying pet food ever again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lost my 13 yr old dog Bro on 1/5/07 and then learned from the news about the food recall. I checked the cans that I had left and learned that Nutro Max Puppy food was on the list and it is what I fed her for 13 years!  She ate mostly the dry formula, but lost her teeth with age, so I gave her the wet stuff, which of course killed her. She had all the symptoms of renal failure which are also old age symptoms. I have filed a class action suit against Menu Foods, and I now know lots of other sad and now enraged pet owners across the country and in Canada have done the same. It will take years to resolve the issue; I still have my cat and am making her food myself.  I am not buying pet food ever again!</p>
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		<title>By: Tammy K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tammy K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try this place:
http://www.dogaware.com/dogfeeding.html

This should give you plenty of information on ingredients, which ones use human-grade or whole foods, and foods with fewer (or no) grains.

I&#039;d post results from Whole Dog Journal&#039;s top foods lists, but they usually have a fit if anyone posts anything from their articles anywhere on the web, even if it&#039;s just sharing information and not taking articles word for word. So if you want that list, you&#039;ll have to purchase the article directly from Whole Dog Journal.

It&#039;s not as difficult as one might think to find super premium, high quality foods without so much junk, artificial flavors, colors, chemicals and fragmented foods in them - you just have to know where to look - and know that they actually exist.

Tammy K.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try this place:<br />
<a href="http://www.dogaware.com/dogfeeding.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dogaware.com/dogfeeding.html</a></p>
<p>This should give you plenty of information on ingredients, which ones use human-grade or whole foods, and foods with fewer (or no) grains.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d post results from Whole Dog Journal&#8217;s top foods lists, but they usually have a fit if anyone posts anything from their articles anywhere on the web, even if it&#8217;s just sharing information and not taking articles word for word. So if you want that list, you&#8217;ll have to purchase the article directly from Whole Dog Journal.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not as difficult as one might think to find super premium, high quality foods without so much junk, artificial flavors, colors, chemicals and fragmented foods in them - you just have to know where to look - and know that they actually exist.</p>
<p>Tammy K.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy DeRay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy DeRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fed the Iams beef and gravy to  my dogs. I called Iams returned the cans. The cans in my cabinet were not from the batch but no  one knows numbers from cans we used in Dec thru recent date of recall. I had my dogs tested right away everything was fine. I also checked many websites for dry food no one wants to tell me the rendering co. etc. I called the FDA to complain about the pet food industry I also called Pet food institute they did not reply. Right now Im cooking for my dogs and still seaching for a dry food.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fed the Iams beef and gravy to  my dogs. I called Iams returned the cans. The cans in my cabinet were not from the batch but no  one knows numbers from cans we used in Dec thru recent date of recall. I had my dogs tested right away everything was fine. I also checked many websites for dry food no one wants to tell me the rendering co. etc. I called the FDA to complain about the pet food industry I also called Pet food institute they did not reply. Right now Im cooking for my dogs and still seaching for a dry food.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 03:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tammy K. and Jaycee-

This is the first time I&#039;ve seen this website and I&#039;m so thankful it led me to your posts.  I have fed Purina One to my dogs their whole lives.  They&#039;ve gotten daily bites of fruit, vegs, cheese, but I had no idea what I was feeding my girls.  I had tried Wellness 2 years ago but my border collie had a number of strange behavioral changes and the store owner told me it was probably due to the higher and better protein and perhaps I should switch back.  

As soon as the recall was announced, I immediately started reading everything I could and realized in horror and shock what I had been giving my pets.  I then tried some samples of raw diet food and some new dry and canned samples (Canidae, Merrick, Chicken Soup, Innova).  

I really want foods that not only don&#039;t contain by-products, corn, etc., but that don&#039;t contain the meat &quot;meal&quot; either.  I have looked at no less than 30 websites and I have only found one dry food that fits that criteria-Pet Promise recommended by Dr. Weil.  Unfortunately I brought some home yesterday and my dogs all turned up their noses and won&#039;t eat it.  I also want to try Pet Guard vegetarian but I&#039;d have to mix it with something containing meat.  You mentioned their are dog foods containing multiple meat sources and NO meat meal.  Could you give me a list?  I am definitely going to be cooking for them more often and made chicken, rice and vegs last nite and they were thrilled.  I did put garlic powder in though and now I&#039;ve read you can only use the type that has &quot;alum&quot; removed from it.

Thanks for any help you can give me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tammy K. and Jaycee-</p>
<p>This is the first time I&#8217;ve seen this website and I&#8217;m so thankful it led me to your posts.  I have fed Purina One to my dogs their whole lives.  They&#8217;ve gotten daily bites of fruit, vegs, cheese, but I had no idea what I was feeding my girls.  I had tried Wellness 2 years ago but my border collie had a number of strange behavioral changes and the store owner told me it was probably due to the higher and better protein and perhaps I should switch back.  </p>
<p>As soon as the recall was announced, I immediately started reading everything I could and realized in horror and shock what I had been giving my pets.  I then tried some samples of raw diet food and some new dry and canned samples (Canidae, Merrick, Chicken Soup, Innova).  </p>
<p>I really want foods that not only don&#8217;t contain by-products, corn, etc., but that don&#8217;t contain the meat &#8220;meal&#8221; either.  I have looked at no less than 30 websites and I have only found one dry food that fits that criteria-Pet Promise recommended by Dr. Weil.  Unfortunately I brought some home yesterday and my dogs all turned up their noses and won&#8217;t eat it.  I also want to try Pet Guard vegetarian but I&#8217;d have to mix it with something containing meat.  You mentioned their are dog foods containing multiple meat sources and NO meat meal.  Could you give me a list?  I am definitely going to be cooking for them more often and made chicken, rice and vegs last nite and they were thrilled.  I did put garlic powder in though and now I&#8217;ve read you can only use the type that has &#8220;alum&#8221; removed from it.</p>
<p>Thanks for any help you can give me!</p>
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		<title>By: Jaycee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaycee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 22:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen, Tammy K. 

Great, informative post. Sadly, I posted something very similar to what you said on a dog nutrition forum when the recall first came out, and I was chastised for being &quot;rude, arrogant, accusatory&quot; and I was also called another name I won&#039;t mention here. At any rate, it is sad that it takes something like this to make people take a second look at what they are feeding their dogs and cats. Like someone else said, &quot;so much for trying to save a buck&quot;. It&#039;s just so sad. Many people really don&#039;t know better! But it doesn&#039;t mean those that know what is in these commercial foods can&#039;t try to make a difference!

My hearts and prayers go out to everyone who has lost a loved one to this tragedy. Shame on the media for taking so long to notice. This is just the beginning...I hope not, but I think there is a lot more bad news to come.

Be strong everyone. Thank you for keeping this website going!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, Tammy K. </p>
<p>Great, informative post. Sadly, I posted something very similar to what you said on a dog nutrition forum when the recall first came out, and I was chastised for being &#8220;rude, arrogant, accusatory&#8221; and I was also called another name I won&#8217;t mention here. At any rate, it is sad that it takes something like this to make people take a second look at what they are feeding their dogs and cats. Like someone else said, &#8220;so much for trying to save a buck&#8221;. It&#8217;s just so sad. Many people really don&#8217;t know better! But it doesn&#8217;t mean those that know what is in these commercial foods can&#8217;t try to make a difference!</p>
<p>My hearts and prayers go out to everyone who has lost a loved one to this tragedy. Shame on the media for taking so long to notice. This is just the beginning&#8230;I hope not, but I think there is a lot more bad news to come.</p>
<p>Be strong everyone. Thank you for keeping this website going!</p>
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		<title>By: Tammy K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tammy K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really, really feel terrible about this whole situation - for those who unknowingly lost pets before the recall, and for those dealing with illness and loss now that word about the recall has spread.

But what saddens me the most, and this is not meant to offend, is the faith that so many have put into the marketing ploys of big business pet food manufacturers.

One thing I spend a lot of time doing is trying to educate people on what the ingredients on a pet food bag really mean. Just because it has pretty pictures of vegetables and chicken legs and pretty dogs on the packaging doesn&#039;t mean that the stuff inside it is worth the cost of the bag (or can) that it&#039;s in.

Does it surprise me that the vast majority of brands affected are cheap, store-brand labels? No. Not at all. What does surprise me is how many people believe, hook, line &amp; sinker, that Iams, Science Diet and Pedigree are &quot;premium&quot; brands.

Holy moly, Batman! Have we really been so brainwashed by advertising that we&#039;ve believed these companies had our pets&#039; welfare in mind when they use inferior ingredients, 4-D meats, and lots of slick advertising?

Well, folks, I&#039;m here to tell you that their bottom line is the almighty dollar, and if that means cutting costs by using cardboard and peanut shells (i.e. some sort of &quot;fiber&quot; is how it would be listed on the ingredient label), roadkill (i.e. &quot;meat meal&quot; or what we in the holistic mindset lovingly call &quot;mystery meat&quot;) and rat poison-laced wheat hulls (i.e. wheat gluten), then so be it. Doesn&#039;t matter to them that their feeding your pets foods that are nutritionally devoid of anything but artificial nutrients because, hey, you know we put those all back in after we render the batches. So it&#039;s in there (just not in a form your pet may be able to use).

I hope this is a HUGE wakeup call for the pet-owning public to learn to READ LABELS! Know what&#039;s in the foods your feeding. Don&#039;t feed wheat or corn products - your pets can&#039;t always digest them! Do find a food that lists at least 2, preferably 3, meat ingredients as the first 5 ingredients on the label.

I highly suggest everyone read the book - &quot;Food Pets Die For&quot; by Anne Martin - this is a real wakeup call as to what really goes into the food you so lovingly feed your pets. Also understand that by &quot;saving a buck&quot; on pet food, you&#039;re most likely adding a FEW bucks on vet care. The better the food, the healthier your dog or cat can be!

You wouldn&#039;t feed your kids on a diet of Cheerios for 3 meals a day, 7 days a week ... forever. Would you? Don&#039;t do the same to your pets! Use this horrible incident as a way to do better, and a lesson for pet food companies that we won&#039;t tolerate their use of byproducts, rejected foods, and garbage!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really, really feel terrible about this whole situation - for those who unknowingly lost pets before the recall, and for those dealing with illness and loss now that word about the recall has spread.</p>
<p>But what saddens me the most, and this is not meant to offend, is the faith that so many have put into the marketing ploys of big business pet food manufacturers.</p>
<p>One thing I spend a lot of time doing is trying to educate people on what the ingredients on a pet food bag really mean. Just because it has pretty pictures of vegetables and chicken legs and pretty dogs on the packaging doesn&#8217;t mean that the stuff inside it is worth the cost of the bag (or can) that it&#8217;s in.</p>
<p>Does it surprise me that the vast majority of brands affected are cheap, store-brand labels? No. Not at all. What does surprise me is how many people believe, hook, line &amp; sinker, that Iams, Science Diet and Pedigree are &#8220;premium&#8221; brands.</p>
<p>Holy moly, Batman! Have we really been so brainwashed by advertising that we&#8217;ve believed these companies had our pets&#8217; welfare in mind when they use inferior ingredients, 4-D meats, and lots of slick advertising?</p>
<p>Well, folks, I&#8217;m here to tell you that their bottom line is the almighty dollar, and if that means cutting costs by using cardboard and peanut shells (i.e. some sort of &#8220;fiber&#8221; is how it would be listed on the ingredient label), roadkill (i.e. &#8220;meat meal&#8221; or what we in the holistic mindset lovingly call &#8220;mystery meat&#8221;) and rat poison-laced wheat hulls (i.e. wheat gluten), then so be it. Doesn&#8217;t matter to them that their feeding your pets foods that are nutritionally devoid of anything but artificial nutrients because, hey, you know we put those all back in after we render the batches. So it&#8217;s in there (just not in a form your pet may be able to use).</p>
<p>I hope this is a HUGE wakeup call for the pet-owning public to learn to READ LABELS! Know what&#8217;s in the foods your feeding. Don&#8217;t feed wheat or corn products - your pets can&#8217;t always digest them! Do find a food that lists at least 2, preferably 3, meat ingredients as the first 5 ingredients on the label.</p>
<p>I highly suggest everyone read the book - &#8220;Food Pets Die For&#8221; by Anne Martin - this is a real wakeup call as to what really goes into the food you so lovingly feed your pets. Also understand that by &#8220;saving a buck&#8221; on pet food, you&#8217;re most likely adding a FEW bucks on vet care. The better the food, the healthier your dog or cat can be!</p>
<p>You wouldn&#8217;t feed your kids on a diet of Cheerios for 3 meals a day, 7 days a week &#8230; forever. Would you? Don&#8217;t do the same to your pets! Use this horrible incident as a way to do better, and a lesson for pet food companies that we won&#8217;t tolerate their use of byproducts, rejected foods, and garbage!</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ci,
You have to talk to the store manager.  Take along a copy of the latest MenuFoods press release.  Make sure they understand the LEGAL implications of continuing to stock food that the authorities are still investigating for toxicants and that MenuFoods has &quot;withdrawn&quot;.  Ask them to please call their headquarters for absolute confirmation that they should stock this food.  And ask them to run it by the corporate lawyers.

The problem is that they are still not sure the aminopterin is the end of it.   When Diamond had aflatoxin contamination it was easy. They knew what it was and tested every bag of food before it left the factory.  This is not a simple situation.  And if you ask me it leaves grocery stores and others who sell this food right in line for lawsuits.  Oh, yes mention that also - the number of lawsuits that have been filed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ci,<br />
You have to talk to the store manager.  Take along a copy of the latest MenuFoods press release.  Make sure they understand the LEGAL implications of continuing to stock food that the authorities are still investigating for toxicants and that MenuFoods has &#8220;withdrawn&#8221;.  Ask them to please call their headquarters for absolute confirmation that they should stock this food.  And ask them to run it by the corporate lawyers.</p>
<p>The problem is that they are still not sure the aminopterin is the end of it.   When Diamond had aflatoxin contamination it was easy. They knew what it was and tested every bag of food before it left the factory.  This is not a simple situation.  And if you ask me it leaves grocery stores and others who sell this food right in line for lawsuits.  Oh, yes mention that also - the number of lawsuits that have been filed.</p>
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		<title>By: Tammy</title>
		<link>http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/26/pet-food-recall-showing-some-guts-in-oregon/comment-page-1/#comment-13692</link>
		<dc:creator>Tammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 12:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Nina:  My dogs only eat dry food also, my 7 year old cockapoo sadly died on March 15, only 8 days after becoming sick. The minute we walked into the vets office, he said rat poison, we were shocked.  My kairn terrier has had the excessive thirst and frequent urination associated with the rat poisioning also, she is currently being tested.  Don&#039;t believe that only the wet food is involved, I suspect it is also dry food and the moist dog treats. I bought a lot of the Ol&#039; roy Wal-mart brand dog food and treats, so much for trying to save a buck.  I&#039;ll never shop at Wal-mart again for anything, but that will never bring my baby back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Nina:  My dogs only eat dry food also, my 7 year old cockapoo sadly died on March 15, only 8 days after becoming sick. The minute we walked into the vets office, he said rat poison, we were shocked.  My kairn terrier has had the excessive thirst and frequent urination associated with the rat poisioning also, she is currently being tested.  Don&#8217;t believe that only the wet food is involved, I suspect it is also dry food and the moist dog treats. I bought a lot of the Ol&#8217; roy Wal-mart brand dog food and treats, so much for trying to save a buck.  I&#8217;ll never shop at Wal-mart again for anything, but that will never bring my baby back.</p>
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		<title>By: ci</title>
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		<dc:creator>ci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 12:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cathy,i was in publix sunday and they still had iams recalled food on shelves and i told 4 workers it needs to be taken off,these fools this looked at me stupid and i bet it;s still on the shelves. on GMA this morning abc news said the pet death toll is over 10,000  there is a web site that vets. only use VIN. menu food needs to shut down ASAP !!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cathy,i was in publix sunday and they still had iams recalled food on shelves and i told 4 workers it needs to be taken off,these fools this looked at me stupid and i bet it;s still on the shelves. on GMA this morning abc news said the pet death toll is over 10,000  there is a web site that vets. only use VIN. menu food needs to shut down ASAP !!!!!!</p>
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